[starmaze]

1 approach yesterday.

Saw this girl in black dress in the morning on the tram on my way to work. She got out on technical university campus stop. When I was going back from work I saw her again in white dress. When she is out I followed her a bit and when there is nobody around I stopped her.

Me: excuse me
Her: yes?
Me: do you know where is Tivoli pizza?
Her: yes, you must go straight and then turn left
Me: have you tried it? Is it any good?
Her: no I haven’t
Me: I tried Tivoli pizza in x street. It tasted like a crap. Somebody should kill the cook.
Her: laugh, I tried pizza Milano over there, its quite good
Me: oh, really I think I will try it. BTW do you study at technical university?
Her: how do you know?
Me: I have psychic powers
Her: laugh
Me: well, I saw you in the morning in black dress and I I see you in white one. What a metamorphosis!
He: laugh oh, yeah, I was going for exams
Me: let me guess, first year student?
Her: actually third

We talked a bit about study then I returned to pizza topic.

Me: so, how about that pizza
She: ( assuming I am asking her out), sorry I have a bf, he is coming over today
Me: I didn’t ask you out. Just wanted to make sure about direction.
Her: oh, yes, you need to go blab la

At this point I told her that I can assist her as we are going the same direction. Talked a bit more and ejected.

[Giovonny]

(09-11-2012 09:01 PM)lurker123123 Wrote:  

Gio (and anyone else who wants to answer)- after getting the number in this type of day game situation, how long do you wait before texting? When you go on a date with a girl who may be under 21, where do you go and do you pay for the whole thing?

I text in 2-4 days, depending on how much connection and momentum was generated in the first approach.

For a first date with a girl under 21, I usually just smoke weed with them and walk around the mall, go to a little place to eat like getting slices of pizza or ice cream, try to just hang out in their dorm room, or have lunch on campus.

Keep it simple. I do usually pay.

(09-12-2012 02:42 AM)starmaze Wrote:  

i find it difficult to stop a girl who is walking with indirect opener.

I like to walk alongside them in the same direction. When I see them walking I move into a strategic position so that I can be right next to them. I pretend like I never noticed them. I pretend to be on my phone. Then , when they are right next to me walking, I open them directly or indirectly. This way we are both walking in the same direction and I should have a few minutes to talk to her. I am always slowing down and speeding up and crossing the street to make this happen.

(09-12-2012 12:19 PM)starmaze Wrote:  

1 approach yesterday.

Saw this girl in black dress in the morning on the tram on my way to work. She got out on technical university campus stop. When I was going back from work I saw her again in white dress. When she is out I followed her a bit and when there is nobody around I stopped her.

Me: excuse me
Her: yes?
Me: do you know where is Tivoli pizza?
Her: yes, you must go straight and then turn left
Me: have you tried it? Is it any good?
Her: no I haven’t
Me: I tried Tivoli pizza in x street. It tasted like a crap. Somebody should kill the cook.
Her: laugh, I tried pizza Milano over there, its quite good
Me: oh, really I think I will try it. BTW do you study at technical university?
Her: how do you know?
Me: I have psychic powers
Her: laugh
Me: well, I saw you in the morning in black dress and I I see you in white one. What a metamorphosis!
He: laugh oh, yeah, I was going for exams
Me: let me guess, first year student?
Her: actually third

We talked a bit about study then I returned to pizza topic.

Me: so, how about that pizza
She: ( assuming I am asking her out), sorry I have a bf, he is coming over today
Me: I didn’t ask you out. Just wanted to make sure about direction.
Her: oh, yes, you need to go blab la

At this point I told her that I can assist her as we are going the same direction. Talked a bit more and ejected.

You are getting better. I have had hundreds of approaches like this over the past few years. After a while you will see what works and what doesn't. Trial and error is the best teacher. Little by little, you will learn how to create more attraction and chemistry.

I sense that you are being a little to serious and not being flirty enough.

To me, this is the problem with going indirect on the street. WE HIDE OUR INTENTIONS, WE DON'T PRESENT OURSELVES AUTHENTICALLY AND WE DON'T GO AFTER WHAT WE REALLY WANT. It feels like we are just "beating around the bush".

WE WANT TO SAY... - "hey you look nice today, whats up with you?"

But, instead we say... - "Excuse me, do you know where main street is?"

I have decided that I'm going more direct! I want to give girls more extreme reactions. I don't care if I get slapped by a chick. I have been thinking alot about this thread.I have been too conservative lately. I am now going for me extreme reactions!

From now on, instead of saying - "i like your dress"

I'm gonna say - "you look nice in that dress"

From now on, instead of saying - "excuse me, do you know where the train station is"

I'm gonna say - "excuse me, I know this is crazy but you look really nice today, what's your name"

I have reached a plateau with my day gaming and it's time for me to increase my intensity and effort!

[starmaze]

Quote:

I like to walk alongside them in the same direction. When I see them walking I move into a strategic position so that I can be right next to them. I pretend like I never noticed them. I pretend to be on my phone. Then , when they are right next to me walking, I open them directly or indirectly. This way we are both walking in the same direction and I should have a few minutes to talk to her. I am always slowing down and speeding up and crossing the street to make this happen.

I try many strategies. Some times i go alongside them. But usually i try to stop them and in order to stop them I say "excuse me' when I am about two meteres behind them. When they turn back i stop walking and stand still and so do they.

The real problem is when she walks from oposite direction and usually notice me when we passing each other. For some reason its hard for me to turn back and approach them afterwords. I think the only way to approach them after you pass each other is to open directly. But as i said i find it very tough.

[Giovonny]

(09-12-2012 02:55 PM)starmaze Wrote:  

I try many strategies. Some times i go alongside them. But usually i try to stop them and in order to stop them I say "excuse me' when I am about two meteres behind them. When they turn back i stop walking and stand still and so do they.

The real problem is when she walks from oposite direction and usually notice me when we passing each other. For some reason its hard for me to turn back and approach them afterwords. I think the only way to approach them after you pass each other is to open directly. But as i said i find it very tough.

I like to walk along side them. If I stop them, it usually from the side. I don't like to approach or say "excuse me" from behind. If we are walking opposite directions I will stop them with "excuse me"

If we pass in the street I will turn and follow them to a stoplight or into a store.

I follow girls all the time.

[starmaze]

Quote:

If we pass in the street I will turn and follow them to a stoplight or into a store.

If you pass and she notices you, do you approach with direct opener? Beacause there is no legit rational excuse to turn back and follow her to ask about direction etc.

What if she enters the women cloths store ( happens to me very often ) ?

[Giovonny]

If she notices me, I approach right when the eye contact happens, usually by stepping in front of her and saying "excuse me". If she doesn't notice me, I turn and follow.

If she goes into a womans clothing store, I pretend I shopping for my sister. I usually buy a pair of shoes or something, as the store employee is getting my shoes, I approach. This way the girl can see me talking to store employees and buying stuff before I approach. As soon as I make my purchase, I approach. Sometimes, I approach at the same time I am picking shoes for my sister.

Of course, I save my receipt so I can return the shoes a few days later.

[rationalize_this]

Just number closed my first coffee shop approach, girl is 19, cute blonde, fat ass.
She sits down at an adjacent table, starts texting, pulls out laptop and starts working.
(She looks up for a second)- opened with "hey you got a second, I could use your help on this real quick"
Dropped several pieces of bait indicating my job(what i was working on) and my intelligence level (complexity of the question)
Had her rambling to me within 5 minutes. Eventually even got her two a demonstration for me of how she would act in a certain situation including a spin around.
Number closed- will text in a few days when I'm bored.

[swshrsweet]

(09-12-2012 02:19 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(09-11-2012 09:01 PM)lurker123123 Wrote:  

Gio (and anyone else who wants to answer)- after getting the number in this type of day game situation, how long do you wait before texting? When you go on a date with a girl who may be under 21, where do you go and do you pay for the whole thing?

I text in 2-4 days, depending on how much connection and momentum was generated in the first approach.

For a first date with a girl under 21, I usually just smoke weed with them and walk around the mall, go to a little place to eat like getting slices of pizza or ice cream, try to just hang out in their dorm room, or have lunch on campus.

Keep it simple. I do usually pay.

(09-12-2012 02:42 AM)starmaze Wrote:  

i find it difficult to stop a girl who is walking with indirect opener.

I like to walk alongside them in the same direction. When I see them walking I move into a strategic position so that I can be right next to them. I pretend like I never noticed them. I pretend to be on my phone. Then , when they are right next to me walking, I open them directly or indirectly. This way we are both walking in the same direction and I should have a few minutes to talk to her. I am always slowing down and speeding up and crossing the street to make this happen.

(09-12-2012 12:19 PM)starmaze Wrote:  

1 approach yesterday.

Saw this girl in black dress in the morning on the tram on my way to work. She got out on technical university campus stop. When I was going back from work I saw her again in white dress. When she is out I followed her a bit and when there is nobody around I stopped her.

Me: excuse me
Her: yes?
Me: do you know where is Tivoli pizza?
Her: yes, you must go straight and then turn left
Me: have you tried it? Is it any good?
Her: no I haven’t
Me: I tried Tivoli pizza in x street. It tasted like a crap. Somebody should kill the cook.
Her: laugh, I tried pizza Milano over there, its quite good
Me: oh, really I think I will try it. BTW do you study at technical university?
Her: how do you know?
Me: I have psychic powers
Her: laugh
Me: well, I saw you in the morning in black dress and I I see you in white one. What a metamorphosis!
He: laugh oh, yeah, I was going for exams
Me: let me guess, first year student?
Her: actually third

We talked a bit about study then I returned to pizza topic.

Me: so, how about that pizza
She: ( assuming I am asking her out), sorry I have a bf, he is coming over today
Me: I didn’t ask you out. Just wanted to make sure about direction.
Her: oh, yes, you need to go blab la

At this point I told her that I can assist her as we are going the same direction. Talked a bit more and ejected.

You are getting better. I have had hundreds of approaches like this over the past few years. After a while you will see what works and what doesn't. Trial and error is the best teacher. Little by little, you will learn how to create more attraction and chemistry.

I sense that you are being a little to serious and not being flirty enough.

To me, this is the problem with going indirect on the street. WE HIDE OUR INTENTIONS, WE DON'T PRESENT OURSELVES AUTHENTICALLY AND WE DON'T GO AFTER WHAT WE REALLY WANT. It feels like we are just "beating around the bush".

WE WANT TO SAY... - "hey you look nice today, whats up with you?"

But, instead we say... - "Excuse me, do you know where main street is?"

I have decided that I'm going more direct! I want to give girls more extreme reactions. I don't care if I get slapped by a chick. I have been thinking alot about this thread.I have been too conservative lately. I am now going for me extreme reactions!

From now on, instead of saying - "i like your dress"

I'm gonna say - "you look nice in that dress"

From now on, instead of saying - "excuse me, do you know where the train station is"

I'm gonna say - "excuse me, I know this is crazy but you look really nice today, what's your name"

I have reached a plateau with my day gaming and it's time for me to increase my intensity and effort!

Gio. I want to know how direct game is working out for you? What type of reaction you get, How the girls handle the opener, if you got the number.

From my experience, It was really up for grabs. Some girls took the bait and a lot of girls didn't. I would like to know more from someone who has more experience than me.

[Thug Muffin]

I usually go out and daygame during my lunch break (1 hour).

4 Approaches done with the Yad stop and interaction modeled after daygame blueprint/Krauser. I like to have a fun conversation, mix in some teasing, challenge her a bit, and maintain strong eye contact.

All of them open pretty well. No blow outs. Every girl stops, has a huge smile afterwards, and conversation starts.

1. Jury duty
After the opener I said she looks like she's in her own little world.
Talk about what she's doing.
I mention that she's not dressed for the corporate world today. Is she one of the lucky few that doesn't work?
She talks about doing jury duty.
I mention Pauly Shore's movie and ask if it's anything like that.
Hasn't seen it. I ask if she's ever tempted to just rip up the summons.
Yes...
She's meeting her cousin at chipotle.
Bye

2. Philly
This one blows open from the very get go. I know she's into me.
She's looking for jobs, she was just at the melting pot (cheese place)
I ask if she's going in there with a bubbly fun attitude.
Of course
You seem fun. You have a different look about you.
I'm from Philly
I should have known... you have this very upbeat wholesome look to you.
I then poke fun of her accent and ask her what words people in Philly use all the time.
Just a fun conversation more about how she moved here, where she lives, stuff like that.
Number close... I like to send a text right away that simply says Ron.
"Now you don't have to screen my calls... or you can. But that would make me sad"
she laughs
I say bye and 2 minutes later I get a text that says she got it.
I've got a date set up with her tomorrow for drinks

3. Hot cougar
She's late for jury duty.
I mention the scarf and she says thanks
little more chit chat but nothing solid
I tell her I won't keep her since she's doing her civic duty to this country.

4. Girl from France
Smoking hot. She had that total bitch face like don't fuck with me.
After I open her she's got a huge smile and she's really quite receptive.
We talk about what she's doing here.
Learning english... I say it's pretty good.
I don't do a lot of funny banter with girls if their english is ok.
I just use a lot of strong eye contact.
Talk about life in france.
Number close her.
I've texted her but no response.

[Mon]

(09-12-2012 10:02 AM)rationalize_this Wrote:  

THE END

This is the most ridiculous story I've ever heard. Either big baller troll or you are the dos equis guy.
[/quote]

Hahahaha. I love it when amateurs show their own perceived inadequacies by assuming that successes that far exceed their capabilities are "rediculous stories." But hey, continue to wallow in your limitations.
[/quote]

I love how you are already attacking me calling me an insecure amateur. You couldn't be more wrong. I have inadequacies, everyone does, that's why I'm here, like everyone else, to learn and improve. This hasn't stopped me from amassing a triple digits notch count at 25 years of age. What do I question, and I'm sure everyone else does, is when someone who has literally contributed nothing to this forum in the form of a data sheet or advice posts a brag story like this. Out of your whopping 6 posts, 3/6 brag about how many threesome, or your 37 notches, and the fourth attacks me. Maybe you're projecting your inadequacies? Break it down, how did you land a LTR like this? How have you managed to to maintain it while gaming girls on the side? Don't just post brag stories and attack members when they are skeptic.
[/quote]

First, I haven't posted much because I just joined the forum about a week or so ago. I'm RARELY on here. Trying to be on here more. Honestly, I just have other shit to do. This may be the first time I've been on for consecutive days. I'm in Encinitas, CA. Too many beaches & bitches to be trying to accumulate enough forum posts to be considered credible.
I landed a relationship like this by demanding it. I was tired of the whole lying/cheating thing. My brother & I were discussing how to make life easier for ourselves so we came up with the notion that no man claiming to run shit and be the king of his castle would lie to a woman, since we determined that to lie to a chick shows that you fear the chick. Plus, he was tired of having to be briefed about the lie that I included him in when I went missing My girl would try to, in her own slick way, catch him slipping up on whether I was with him on a given night. So we vowed that we would both let our women know that we wanted to be in one stress-free relationship, where the women got along. If they weren't with it, we'd send them on their way & move on.
I had been in one relationship for multiple years (we were living together) and the other for a little over a year. I slowly started seeding the idea into conversations to calibrate their reactions. We lived in an area (St. Louis, MO) that has a Hebrew Israelite community--a religious group that allows the men up to seven wives. I knew several of them from their pre-conversion days. I would talk about things they told me about having multiple wives. I would get, "Hmmm, that's interesting."
I would "coincidentally" leave books about polygyny on the bed or car seat, then start discussing interesting points in the books. Then I would get, "I guess that makes sense."
So one day, I was sitting in the car with my "little over a year" chick (the one from the above story) and we were having a serious discussion about it. By then, she knew that I was living with a chick. Then, outta the blue, she said, "I think you deserve that."
Keep in mind, she REALLY looked up to me because I had been teaching her chi kung, Reichian bodywork, meditation, yoga, do NLP/hypnosis work with her, etc. I got her to adopt a healthy diet, juicing, the works.
I'm thinking, "Cool, now I gotta work on my other chick."
My "little over a year" chick was eager to meet my "multiple years" chick. She was a MUCH harder sale.
More conversation, more calibrating. The more open to the idea she began to seem to me, the more she would initiate conversation about it, the more I began to think I should put it all on the table. Plus, my other chick was hounding me about meeting her.
So one night, I told her that I had someone in mind. That I'd been in a relationship with someone for some time & that I wanted them to meet.
Of course, she said she'd pretty much known all along. That didn't stop her from crying, with all the, "What did I do?" hooplah.
It was kinda awkward in the house for the next couple days. Then she came to me & said, "Ok, I want to meet her. I trust you."
I gave her all the assurances and "I'm proud of you's."
The next day, we all had lunch. We talked about the idea, the logistics etc.; They hit it off. "We have so much in common." All that jazz.
The next day, I was about to pick my "multiple years" chick up from work, but my "little over a year" chick asked if she could pick her up alone. I was kinda skeptical, but I decided I had to trust them. So I told her to do it.
They didn't show up for a LOOOONG time. I felt like I was waiting for my AIDS test. Maybe they'd started fighting or some shit. When they finally came through the door giggling, I was SERIOUSLY relieved.
Things were kinda awkward to me since I didn't know quite how to handle having both in the crib, so my "little over a year" chick said, "Well I better get home" and left.
About 15 minutes later, my "multiple years" chick said something like, "Since we're gonna be one big happy family, don't you think she should've stayed."
"Yeah, I guess so."
"I'm gonna call her & tell her to come back."
She called, got in the shower, & put on some crazy sexy lingerie. I KNEW what was about to go down then.
When she got there, I was still kinda overwhelmed with the fact that this was happening. We just sat and watched a fuckin movie.
After it was over, my "little over a year" chick uttered the words I'll NEVER forget. She said, "So I guess I'll suck his dick and you can get his balls."
From there, it was some of the craziest sex I've EVER had...probably because of the sentimental value.
The next day, she moved in with us and we all lived together for 7 years.
After some time, they wanted to have fun by bringing home other chicks here & there. I started teaching them how to get chicks. Keep in mind, this had NOTHING to do with stuff in the "pickup" community. This was before even checking out stuff in the community, which made me giggle when I did check it out, because I'm a REALLY [/u]direct kinda guy. Since most of the stuff that I saw had to do with dental floss openers & g-string openers, I didn't vibe well with it at first, though later I did come to realize that there were some value in many of the principles. I've been instinctually "negging" since the late 80s (I'm 37).
Getting pussy from top-notch chicks ALWAYS came easy to me. The multiple woman relationships was a natural evolution.

As far as how I managed to maintain it while gaming girls on the side. My chick has NO jealousy issues. Keep in mind much of the gaming is done together. When it's not, I let her know EVERY chick that get involved with. Many of them turn into 3somes with us. Idetermine whether a chick is into chicks within the 1st 15 minutes of conversation. If not, I'm wasting my time, since I decided LOOOONG ago that I will ONLY fuck bisexual chicks, which, when you present it to them as a given, you rarely find one who isn't.

[Giovonny]

I did 10-11 approaches today. At a local college. I have come to realize two things:

1) Dressing very sharp with a GQ style increases my day game success by like 75%. Its amazing what a difference clothes can make. I'm doing a major wardrobe makeover. Clothes and style are huge in day game! Clothes can communicate alot about you and if you really look sharp, girls are way more open to talking with you. A well dressed stranger fits into their fantasy..

2) The Krauser method is the way to go. At least for me, right now. Its the best method of approaching that I have experienced so far, and I have done close to 1000 day approaches. The beauty of Krauers model is that you open her directly with masculine confidence and you also tease her to project non-neediness. Those two things make a powerful combination. The tease adds just the right amount of cockiness. The direct opener is a great display of masculine confidence. Its a great frame to start from. 

Everyone wants to know if they should go direct or indirect. This is a combination of BOTH!!!

I will be using this approach style most of the time from now on. There are some situations where I might go indirect but I will still have flirtatious tone, body language, and eye contact.

Here it is: http://www.rooshv.com/direct-day-game-for-beginners

And, I don't like to jog up from behind the girl. Just doesn't feel right to me. I try to avoid this as much as possible. I prefer to catch her coming from the opposite direction and stop her face to face or catch her at a "choke-point" like a corner where people are moving in all directions.

I often touch their arm to get their attention.

Clothes+Krauser. That is my advice to all you day gamers!

(09-12-2012 09:49 PM)Thug Muffin Wrote:  

4 Approaches done with the Yad stop and interaction modeled after daygame blueprint/Krauser.

Can you breakdown the Yad stop and the day game blueprint?

Thanks. I have a feeling I'm gonna like them.

[starmaze]

(09-13-2012 04:18 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  

I did 10-11 approaches today. At a local college. I have come to realize two things:

1) Dressing very sharp with a GQ style increases my day game success by like 75%. Its amazing what a difference clothes can make. I'm doing a major wardrobe makeover. Clothes and style are huge in day game! Clothes can communicate alot about you and if you really look sharp, girls are way more open to talking with you. A well dressed stranger fits into their fantasy..

2) The Krauser method is the way to go. At least for me, right now. Its the best method of approaching that I have experienced so far, and I have done close to 1000 day approaches. The beauty of Krauers model is that you open her directly with masculine confidence and you also tease her to project non-neediness. Those two things make a powerful combination. The tease adds just the right amount of cockiness. The direct opener is a great display of masculine confidence. Its a great frame to start from. 

Everyone wants to know if they should go direct or indirect. This is a combination of BOTH!!!

I will be using this approach style most of the time from now on. There are some situations where I might go indirect but I will still have flirtatious tone, body language, and eye contact.

Here it is: http://www.rooshv.com/direct-day-game-for-beginners

And, I don't like to jog up from behind the girl. Just doesn't feel right to me. I try to avoid this as much as possible. I prefer to catch her coming from the opposite direction and stop her face to face or catch her at a "choke-point" like a corner where people are moving in all directions.

I often touch their arm to get their attention.

Clothes+Krauser. That is my advice to all you day gamers!

(09-12-2012 09:49 PM)Thug Muffin Wrote:  

4 Approaches done with the Yad stop and interaction modeled after daygame blueprint/Krauser.

Can you breakdown the Yad stop and the day game blueprint?

Thanks. I have a feeling I'm gonna like them.

Can you give an example of GQ style you talk about? I googled it but there are a lot diffrent styles..

Yad stop. Go to 5:50 and 6:30 to see Yad himself in action

http://vimeo.com/22987535

[pitt]

This is a really good thread, giovonny your contribution has been really good.

I have been approaching in the last 2 days in this university campus here in santo domingo. I notice that girls here are more likely to talk to a stranger when they notice you are a foreigner. So instead of approaching them in my usual dominican spanish como tu ta ou que lo que..i straight throw them a line in portuguese..oi tudo bem?(this line got me a bang on my first day here) Then i ask them if they know where is the registration room..from there i just say that i just moved here and i am looking to do a university course here. The thing i like about the university here is that is a competitive place to game, girls wont give you the number that easily and it makes it more challenging, dont get me wrong, i like easy girls, but come on i also like a bit of competition. I hardly see the same girl twice in the same day, i dont think there is another university in the world,with so many hot mullatas to game, you hardly see guys here, its like 85 per cent women, 15 per cent guys.

Let me share some of my approaches here

Approach one
I see this chick with very nice legs walking my way, i want to talk her but i want to see the ass first because im all about the ass, so soon as she walks past me, i look behind and damnnn..she has a perfect ass..a 9 in my book, im mad that i didnt approach but its nothing. I go look for the registration room, then they pointed me out that is the other way..i now see the registration room and guess who i see again,,miss 9 with the perfect ass

Me: Tudo bem?
Her: hmmm?
Me: I am looking for the registration room..do you know where is it? (I commit small mistakes in spanish on purpose so she knows im not from here)
Her: Its right there
Me: I looked at her uniform that she was carrying on her hands and asked..are you a teacher here?
Her: She smiles..oh no..im a nurse student here and sometimes we have to wear this
Me:...ok interesting..im actually here to study medicine
Her: Im really sorry but i have to go now, because im already running late for my lesson
Me: Do you have a number so i can get in touch with you?
she quickly gives me her number and leaves. I called her last night, we are meeting today at the university.

Second approach.

I see this hot mullata with a pretty face and nice legs..im almost sure she has a nice ass but i cant see it because she is walking towards my direction and is on the other side. I cross to the other side and ask

Me: Tudo bem? Do you know where is the football campus here?
These other students, that i didnt even FUCKING ask them for directions..''its right there, just walk straight down''..i complete ignore them and i wait for this girl to give me the directions..
Her: Its right there an she keeps on walking and smiling
Me: i follow her..so what do you study here?
Her: Marketing
Me: ok kool..i came here to study medicine
Her: Is your first day here?
Me: yeah thats why im completely lost
She is vibing well to my game..but i look at the ass properly and it aint fully perfect...if this was in london,im sure i will try to bang her..but here i just want to fuck true 9s

So i use my withdrawal line: Anyway..i will probably see you around here, i will be always here

Third approach

I see this morena walking my way..pretty face..im sure she has a nice ass but i cant see it but i still decide to approach

Me: Tudo bem?
Her: hmm?
Me: Do you know where is the lunch room here?
Her: keep on walking down this way and ask when you get to that main door
Me: You look cute..i just enrolled at the university here and i wanted to get to know new people..im pitt
Her: Im bla bla..

I cant exactly remember how the rest of the convo went..but when i go ask for the number...she tells me she doesnt give her number away like that. Im like ok kool..tchau

Now that she is walking away, i see that she actually had a perfect ass..i felt like going back and put more pressure..

I am going back to this uni later today and do few more approaches.

[Way Cool Jr]

Hey, interesting thread...
I've got some questions about clothes.
I'm experimenting a bit to understand what's the best choice, but I would also like to receive your opinion.
What do you think it's the best choice for a 24 years old guy, during daygame?
I usually go for girls that are younger than me, so I guess that the suit and tie look it's not the best choice.
What does really mean "dressing sharp" or the "GQ look"?
Do you guys mean casual chic look? Should I go out dressed like this?
      

[reino341]

Best outfit is the one you can wear with confidence but at the same communicates that you're not a recluse.

[slubu]

Gio, break down some of those college campus approaches. I can see style making a huge difference.

[Thug Muffin]

(09-13-2012 04:18 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  

1) Dressing very sharp with a GQ style increases my day game success by like 75%. Its amazing what a difference clothes can make. I'm doing a major wardrobe makeover. Clothes and style are huge in day game! Clothes can communicate alot about you and if you really look sharp, girls are way more open to talking with you. A well dressed stranger fits into their fantasy..

I totally agree. When I'm suited up it's game on. Unfortunately here in San Diego it's been super hot. When Fall/Winter rolls around I'll be suited up for sure.

(09-13-2012 04:18 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  

And, I don't like to jog up from behind the girl. Just doesn't feel right to me. I try to avoid this as much as possible. I prefer to catch her coming from the opposite direction and stop her face to face or catch her at a "choke-point" like a corner where people are moving in all directions.

I often touch their arm to get their attention.
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There's a lot of charity people in my downtown area. They approach me the same way you described. Whenever I see someone approach me head on I think to myself... "great what the fuck does this person want from me?" The Yad Stop( run from behind) to me embodies what a dominant masculine male would do when a hot girl walks by him.
Girl catches me eye while I'm out. I turn around and run after her because I'm a man and go after what I want. I get in front of her because my presence commands attention. The stop alone conveys you have a huge set of balls.

(09-12-2012 09:49 PM)Thug Muffin Wrote:  

4 Approaches done with the Yad stop and interaction modeled after daygame blueprint/Krauser.

(09-13-2012 04:18 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Can you breakdown the Yad stop and the day game blueprint?

Thanks. I have a feeling I'm gonna like them.

More or less they are the same model but Krauser seems to go with a more masculine feel which I identify more with. There were parts in Krauser's book where I would have liked to seen more examples. The blueprint helped fill in the blanks for me.
http://www.daygame.com
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[Lothario]

Nice change of pace Giovanny, Her are my 2 Approaches from day before yesterday and their follow up, need your critique on them....

Approach 1: I am crossing a walkway and see a Busty Girl with strong legs (Boner Inducing) on the lower level coming this way, I go down the stairs and time it so she runs in to me, I open with

Me: "Excuse me do you know where is the parking office" ?
her: Yes it's on such and Such road after the bridge .
Me: Can you direct me, I just moved from Florida.
her: Steps to the road with me and shows me to go this way.... and then turn...
Me: Is it walkable distance , would you like to walk with me.
Her: I would like to but I have meet the Coach
Me: do you run track ?
Her: used to not any more.
Me: what are you studying ?
her : to be a Physical therapist
Me: Oh yeah I wanted to become a Sports Physcian at one time but found another field that I Love
Her: What do you Do ?
Me: My usual 2-3 min routine...
Me: are you from here ?
her: No, such and such state .
Me: So what brought you here
her: Long story but I had twins and had to stop my studies and take a break for a year.
I lost my interest at this point and started to move but she didn't and her body started changing directions in the direction I was moving and she strted filling the gap in the conversation . I read this as an interest on her part... and continued to follow.

Me: whao boys or girls ?
her: Girls ?
Me: Who is taking care of them
her: My mom in Alabama.
Me: You seem intersting , lets exchange numbers and continue the conversation later.
her: Ok and hand me her phone.

I enter my number and call myself and ask for her exact name. I did ask her about tomorrow as I had about half a day off, she said she has classes all day but call her when I have time.

Approach # 2: with in 60 seconds of the first Approach, I turn a Hallway and see a girl that I met 2-3 weeks ago , She works in the Lab and I joked about her being the new Vampire ?

Me: Hey Angela , what's up...
Her : Not much, going out to eat.
Me: You shouldn't , It's sunny outside today , you won't last long
Her: turns red..

we chat a little about her new job and i give her a few pointers etc. she had Iphone 4 in her hand with a Pic of Baby, i ask her if the bay is hers, she says no it's her Niece. We talk about the signal quality in the buildings etc.

Me: Listen, Let's cut the bullshit and go out some time.
Her: Yeah we should.
Her: She gives me her phone and I enter my number and give myself a call.
Me: I have some time tomorrow evening lets's get together.
Her: yeah sure give me call, i get off work at 4

I felt pretty good with 2 approaches and 2 numbers I think both are Solid leads specially the second approach and my first choice . I will report in the next post what happened yesterday.......

[Lothario]

Follow up on Approach # 2: I might not have been able to convey the feel from the approach but this girl was laughing, holding my hand for a bit longer, turning red , holding eye contact.

Ok I called her after her work hours as she told me , She didn't pick up, I left a message to call me back. About 2 hrs later I sent her a text ..

Me: Hey what's up . I'm at the Gym , let's meet at ------ around --

She responds back after about 1.5 hrs with these exact words

her: "I just got out of class, Listen I appreciate the offer to go out but I'm just really busy with school and rotations that I'm not looking t go out withanyone right now, but thank you !"

My Analysis: She liked the fact that I striked her ego and is truly not wanting to go out with any one ?

Follow up on Approach # 1: She seemed interested with her body language and pupils dilated when I DHV'd my position , Young girl so I just left her a text

Me: Hey what's up , I have sometime later in the evening, let's meet at -------- around ----PM.

No response yesterday, I received a text this morning around 09:30, Here it is word to word

Her : " Sorry i didn't text you back. Me and my bf got in a big fight about ur text and it was just better for us if I didn't respond. "

My Analysis: She might have been looking to upgrade her bf and was looking to cheat and got caught .

WTF two solid numbers down the drain

Suggestions: are more then welcome to how to respond or not respond at all, I didn't as of yet and am not planning to unless you guys give me an Idea to salvage e-mech style Like feed it to the second girl that her bf is jelous/possesive etc.

Looking forward to critiques....

[reino341]

(09-13-2012 02:07 PM)Lothario Wrote:  

Her : " Sorry i didn't text you back. Me and my bf got in a big fight about ur text and it was just better for us if I didn't respond. "

Wow, that's funny. Her BF is a 100% beta, so it's still salvageable.

After a day or more, "its cool, you up for drinks next [day]?" Just be oblivious to the BF issue.

[el mechanico]

"Her : " Sorry i didn't text you back. Me and my bf got in a big fight about ur text and it was just better for us if I didn't respond. "

You: lol

You: Let me talk to him what's his number?

[rationalize_this]

(09-13-2012 02:07 PM)Lothario Wrote:  

Follow up on Approach # 2: I might not have been able to convey the feel from the approach but this girl was laughing, holding my hand for a bit longer, turning red , holding eye contact.

Ok I called her after her work hours as she told me , She didn't pick up, I left a message to call me back. About 2 hrs later I sent her a text ..

Me: Hey what's up . I'm at the Gym , let's meet at ------ around --

She responds back after about 1.5 hrs with these exact words

her: "I just got out of class, Listen I appreciate the offer to go out but I'm just really busy with school and rotations that I'm not looking t go out withanyone right now, but thank you !"

My Analysis: She liked the fact that I striked her ego and is truly not wanting to go out with any one ?

Follow up on Approach # 1: She seemed interested with her body language and pupils dilated when I DHV'd my position , Young girl so I just left her a text

Me: Hey what's up , I have sometime later in the evening, let's meet at -------- around ----PM.

No response yesterday, I received a text this morning around 09:30, Here it is word to word

Her : " Sorry i didn't text you back. Me and my bf got in a big fight about ur text and it was just better for us if I didn't respond. "

My Analysis: She might have been looking to upgrade her bf and was looking to cheat and got caught .

WTF two solid numbers down the drain

Suggestions: are more then welcome to how to respond or not respond at all, I didn't as of yet and am not planning to unless you guys give me an Idea to salvage e-mech style Like feed it to the second girl that her bf is jelous/possesive etc.

Looking forward to critiques....

Just move on and do other approaches brother. Girls are like the bus station, there is always another one coming. This is part of the game. I've had similar experiences. Most recently I gamed a girl in my building, she didn't mention having a boyfriend and after a few texts back and forth and her agreeing to go out with me I get a text saying: "Sorry, I have a bf i don't think this is a good idea...". I don't respond, and 3 hours later some guy comes knocking on my door telling me not to text his girlfriend. TOTAL BETA. I shamed the fuck out of him, told him his gfs probably fucked other guys already if she's giving her number out this easily. Called him a beta to his face (don't think he understood, confused expression) and called security on his ass. There's no rational explanation for these outcomes. Its just all about spitting consistent game and being lucky enough to do it on a girl that is down at that point in time.

[Giovonny]

(09-13-2012 05:34 AM)starmaze Wrote:  

Can you give an example of GQ style you talk about?

This is the look I went for yesterday..



Instead of yellow, my sweater was purple. I love these cardigan sweaters with nice slacks and shoes.

This is my usual look..




The better I dress, the more girls are open to talking. The better I dress, the more value I project. The better I dress, the more girls open me, the better I dress, the more ioi's I get. The better I dress, the better the responses I get. The better I dress, the better I feel. The better I dress, the more numbers and dates I get.

THE BETTER I DRESS, THE BETTER MY GAME!!!

Clothes make a huge difference! From now on, I will almost always dress with GQ style like the guy in the first picture.

(09-13-2012 10:17 AM)Way Cool Jr Wrote:  

What does really mean "dressing sharp" or the "GQ look"?

Do you guys mean casual chic look? Should I go out dressed like this?

This is pretty good. With the jacket on, he will look even better! I like the watch and bracelet. Gotta have good accessories!

(09-13-2012 10:17 AM)Way Cool Jr Wrote:  

This is okay, but not GQ enough! I mean, its not bad, but, it doesn't really pop! You can do better then this. He needs a nice sweater and a skinny tie or something. This is too simple and plain.

(09-13-2012 11:07 AM)Thug Muffin Wrote:  

The Yad Stop( run from behind) to me embodies what a dominant masculine male would do when a hot girl walks by him.
Girl catches me eye while I'm out. I turn around and run after her because I'm a man and go after what I want. I get in front of her because my presence commands attention. The stop alone conveys you have a huge set of balls.

I will experiment more with this.

(09-13-2012 11:07 AM)Thug Muffin Wrote:  

More or less they are the same model but Krauser seems to go with a more masculine feel which I identify more with. There were parts in Krauser's book where I would have liked to seen more examples. The blueprint helped fill in the blanks for me.
http://www.daygame.com
http://forms.daygame.com/wp-content/uplo...-Model.jpg

Thanks

(09-13-2012 10:34 AM)slubu Wrote:  

Gio, break down some of those college campus approaches. I can see style making a huge difference.

The difference was amazing!

Here are the 10 approaches I did yesterday while dressed up in slim slacks, nice shoes and cardigan sweater..

#1

Got out of my car, saw a cute half asian-half white girl walking, I timed it so we would get to the corner at the same time. I walked along side her, just in front of her for a few seconds to let her observe me. As we approached the corner, I slowed down to let her catch up..

me: nice dog tag
her: oh this (touching her necklace)
me: ya i have the same one (showing her my similar black dog tag)
her: we have good taste
me: haha what class do you have?
her: english
me: do you like english
her: no i hate it
me: what class do you like?
her: im a math person
me: well, you can't be great at everything i guess
her: what class do you have
me: im doing a workshop for some athletes
her: oh cool
me: are you from san francisco?
her: no im from the east bay
me: are you freezing over here?
her: yes!

We walked onto campus and chatted. She was giving me good eye contact and asking me questions. Then she stopped walking..

her: my class is in this building
me: oh okay, im going this way
her: nice talking with you
me: we should do it again something
her: it was really nice chatting with you but im with someone
me: oh too bad, are you sure you don't need a friend like me?
her: haha its probably better if i don't
me: k see you around.

Maybe I could have pushed it further. But, I let it go. I felt good because this was my first approach of the day, literally seconds after I got out of my car. She gave me a good response. I knew the clothes were helping already.

#2

I was in the library. A group of 4 girls walked past me, one of them smiled at me. We held eye contact for a second or two. They went to sit at a table. I stood in front of a coffee stand and pretended to be texting, I kept my eye on her trying to think of a way to approach. She got up and went to get some napkins by herself. I walked right over and met her face to face. When we locked eyes, we both kind of smiled again..

me: hey
her: hey
me: what are you guys studying?
her: we are just brainstorming for english
me: oh thats nice its always more fun in a group
her: ya and less work
me: i though maybe we knew each other?
her: i don't know
me: maybe i just smiled because you looked cute
her: thanks
me: where are you from
her: la
me: ya how long have you been up here?
her: this is my first year
me: how you liking it?
her: its great so far
me: sf is a fun place, so much to explore
her: its very interesting
me: what are you italian?
her: no im persian
me: persian? you look white
her: i know im mixed with german
me: oh shit persian and german watch out!
her: haha what are you?
me: latin and white
her: good mix
me: ha thanks whats your name
her: vanessa
me: im gio. im thinking we should hang out sometime
her: sure

Gave me her number. Energy was good. Good prospect.

#3

Beautiful brown skin girl. Dressed in all white. Great body. Walking through the library. She goes into an elevator by herself, I'm right behind her. Perfect! I enter the elevator..

me: hi
her: what floor?
me: 4th please
her: ok
me: thanks, you look nice today
her: thank you
me: what nationality are you
her: palistinian
me: oh i see, palistinaieans are pretty
her: you think so?
me: i do now!

The elevator door opened. She started to get off.

me: im gonna get off here because i want to ask you something
her: ok
me: i know this is crazy but are you single? i'd like to call you sometime.
her: well, actually im not, but im flattered, thank you
me: really? (pretending to be disappointed)
her: yes
me: oh well

Again, even though she claimed to have a bf, I knew the clothes were helping. I was getting pretty good responses from these girls.

#4

I was walking through the dorms. I see a cute filapina with a hot little body..

me: excuse me
her: ya
me: where is the gym around here?
her: oh its just around the corner
me: ok thanks
her: sure
me; i can see you have been working out, you are in great shape
her: oh haha i ran track in high school
me: where at?
her: in la, eaglerock
me: oh thats a nice part of la right?
her: ya i guess
me: are you asian?
her: ya filapina
me: you are kind of cute
her: thanks
me: wanna hang out sometime
her: oh i don't think so
me: do you think im too old for you or something
her: no its just you know
me: thats ok i was just kidding!
her: haha
me: but now im serious, can i call you later
her: sorry

No luck. She was cute. On to the next one.

#5

I'm exiting the dorms. A girl opens me..

her: nice cardigan
me: thank you

We both stop. There is a little tension and chemistry. Perfect!!

me: i was just gonna stop you and tell you nice skirt
her: oh i read your mind
me: you are psychic
her: maybe
me: you look great, i can tell you've been working out
her: thank you
me: are you done for the day
her: yes and im a little sick so um going home to nap
me: oh yes go eat and rest.
her: i need to
me: make some juice
her: i just got a juicer

We chat a little more about school and music. Then I say..

me: are we going to see each other again?
her: i think thats a good idea

I take her number. Another good prospect.

#6

About 2 minutes later, I am crossing the street, I see a cutie, I do a Krauser type approach..

We are walking opposite directions. I touch her arm..

me: excuse me
her: yes
me: the reason i stopped you is because you look very nice today, whats your name?
her: angela
me: angela, im gio where are you from?
her: riverside
me: oh you must be cold up here
her: actually i like it
me: you like or natural air conditioning?
her: yes, i was sick of the heat
me: well you came to the right place
her: i know
me: are you latina?
her: latina and asian
me: interesting

Blah, blah, blah.

me: I like to take you out sometime
her: i don't know
me: you think you are too young for me?
her: no its just that, well..
me: no worries

She wasn't interested. But, I love that style of approach.

#7

Girl is smoking a cig, she has on a weird but cool sweater. Its a little crowded so I walk right in front of her and almost brush against her..

me: i like your shawl
her: oh thanks, its a poncho
me: haha thats the old fashioned way of saying it
her: haha i still say poncho
me: its different
her: thats why i like it
me: you remind me of fleetwood mac
her: the singer?
me: ya
her: why?
me: you dress like her, mysterious and sexy
her: i need to check her out
me: ya you would love her
her: do you like her music?

We talk for about 10 minutes about music and groups that we like. We make a connection based on music.

me: when are we gonna drink beer and listen to music together
her: you wanna take my number

Another good prospect in the funnel.

#8

Hot white girl. Yoga pants. I time it so we arrive at the walking path at the same time..

me: what are those furry things on your bag?
her: oh those are rabbits feet.
me: they match your bag
her: ya they do huh
me: were you exercising?
her: no i just like to be comfortable at school
me: you have an accent
her: im from the ukraine
me: oh how long have you been here?
her: 10 years
me: oh you are almost american then
her: not really

We chat about school and ukraine. She is giving me good eye contact and not trying to end the conversation. I help her find an office.

me: should we hang out again sometime
her: thanks but i have a bf

Whatever! Next!

#9

Another cute latina walking past me. Another Krauser type approach..

me: excuse me
her: yes
me: you look nice today, i love your feminine walk and your funny style.
her: haha thank you

She just looked at me waiting to see what I would say next.

me: are you from around here.
her: no fresno
me: oh i have alot of family there
her: really?

Blah, blah, blah

me: lets grab a beer together something
her: only as freinds
me: oh no
her: i have a bf

Fuck! Next!

#10

I'm at the store. Cute white girl. Blond. Tight jeans. I do what I always do when I see a cute girl at the store. I grab whatever item she is looking at. She is looking at lunch meat. I step right in next to her and grab some salami..

me: you eat this stuff?!?
her: well, not the salami, i get turkey
me: oh ok, i was gonna ask you how you stay in such great shape
her: I just eat the turkey plain
me: you look like you have good genetics also
her: i hope so
me: where you from?
her: san diego
me: i love sd, i have fam in ocean beach
her: ha ocean beach is crazy
me: ya we are crazy people haha
her: ha what do you do with all that salami?
me: its for my dad, he likes salami sandwiches
her: oh
me: what are you studying?
her: literature
me: oh, what are your reading now?

Yadda, yadda, yadda

We had pretty good energy and a decent connection.

me: wanna have coffee or a beer together sometime?
her: sorry, im with someone

I didn't push it.

The main thing with these approaches is that I got a great response from almost every girl. I was direct without being aggressive and forceful. I simply stated my intentions and observations as a man. I went after what I wanted without being needy.

I got a few good prospects. This was 100% better then my recent day out with Slubu.

The difference? My clothes! And, my approach!

With Slubu, I was all over the map, direct, indirect, neutral. I didn't have a game plan. I think girls could sense the uncertainty in my mind. I was mostly hiding my intentions. Then I would reveal my true intentions a few minutes into the conversation. I was inconsistent and incongruent. When I did go direct, my appearance and wardrobe did not match up to my forwardness.

The GQ look made everything seem to work. The more direct approaches matched my wardrobe. I came across as more attractive. Shit, I felt more attractive. Girls responded better.

Now, I need a new watch and a few new outfits.

I'm telling you guys, DRESS NICE AND USE A KRAUSER TYPE OF APPROACH!!! IT WORKS!

I am finally breaking through to higher level of day game..

[pitt]

Good day today. Let me give a brief introduction.

I come out of my hotel. Halla at everybody in el conde (the tourist area here in santo domingo), then i see someone calling out my name. ..''yo pitt''..i look..its this old jamaican dude that got deported from the states..i go sit with him..we talking for like 20 minutes..i see this mullata with a phat ass (8.5 in my book) walking fast towards the mini bus..im thinking damn..i need to approach it..but i see that she is getting on the bus..im like fuck it im getting on the bus

Approach number one

I walked to the bus and asked the driver if he is going to duarte..funny enough dude is going there. I sit on the mini bus facing this chick. I look at her hard..she is giving me 7% of eye response..

Me:i ask her if this is going to duarte ( I made sure she gets that im not from here)
Her: yeah its going there.
I give her that beta look so she knows im not some weirdo and keep on watching her. There was this music playing on the minibus..i ask the man sitting next to her..is this cuban music? The man is like yeah its cuban music..

I give more two or three lines to this girl..asked her if she knew mozart la para..then i told her i just moved to santo domingo and i was wondering if she could show me duarte around.. she tells me yeah it should be fine..i see this place where they were selling books..i tell her lets come out here and then we walk to duarte..we come off the bus and walk straight to the book show. I asked the bookshoppers about different authors and they didnt know shit...im like fuck this..babe lets go to duarte.

We walking to duarte now..other bitches eye fucking me hard, im loving the attention..this chick knows that other chicks are eye fucking me hard so she gets closer to me to show that she is walking with me. I tell her lets grab something to eat..we get something to eat..she is eye fucking me hard like she wants to fuck me right there.im not giving her much attention now..im acting like im the HOT stuff here..however im still talking and giving her jokes..she is asking me personal shit like how much im paying for the place that im staying...i usually avoid answering such questions but i told her how much i was paying..she looked at me like i was a fucking millionaire, extremely shocked with how much i was paying..i was thinking to myself..thats a fucking budget price, i will probably need to take you to roosh forum, show you who is hooligan harry, show you who is joehoya, show you who is scotian..these motherfuckers are balling, not me, thats budget. Anyway, i ask her what she is doing now, that we could go hang out at my place..she tells me she really needs to go now but she will take my number and come spend the day with me on saturday..she showed too much interest. I want to fuck her hard.


I go to the local university. I stand right outside the main entrance. I see so many chicks walking in and out and is just unbelievable. This woman selling tarjetas tells me to be careful with my eyes or they will drop..i start talking to her and these other dudes that were there. I see this phat ass chick walking in..i tell her hello..she doesnt look back and keeps on walking. 5 minutes later i see her coming out again.

Approach number 2 (7.5)

I quickly blocked her..and gave her the "oi tudo bem" line..she keeps on walking..i tell her that i was looking for the cafeteria..she is being polite but keeps on walking..my lines were not coming out the right way..i thought fuck this


Approach number3 (9)

I go back to the university entrance. By the way, i dont know if im the only one like this but i can see good looking women from a far distance. I see this hot chick coming out from the uni, i quickly walk in so she wont think that im some bum standing outside the university.

Me:

p.s. sorry dudes, i will finish writing approach 3 and other aproaches when i get back..going to meet one of the chicks from the uni.

[GreenLion]

I approached this cute blonde who was dancing with her friend.

Me: Hey, what does your tattoo means ?
Her: It's a flower
Me: Yeah i know, but does it have a meaning?
Her: For me yes, it has
Me: So what it means ?
Her: I can't tell you
Me: ok

I think i could do much better, what do you guys would do ?