[LatinoHeat]

READ THIS please first. Is this a "fuck yes?" Its not even a hellyes, it seems like a "no, but i'm scared to make the move"

Fuck yes or no is a great philosophy for decisions but esp with kids, it needs to be a fuck yes, which clearly you aren't even at a maybe, I don't really know you but based on what I read I think having kids with this girl will be a disaster for you both.

Also in response to some people here saying its a "shit test" i mean come on, ok say you somehow convince her to stay with you and not get married and have kids, she'll be miserable, and so will you. Terrible scenario even if your "keeping the frame" or whatever lame PUA term manages to work in keeping her around.

Sounds like you already made your decision but are being too chicken to pull the trigger .

You don't want kids, esp with her. You don't want to get married. You don't like the cultural aspect of marrying her family. Doesn't even sound like your in love with her anymore.

I know how it is I recently had to end an 8 year relationship with my biz partner and I spent many months doing this same agonizing back and forth thinking in my head when it was obvious it was the right decision.

Yes you took her prime years away but trust me in the thirsty ass USA she will find no problem finding another american dude to knock her up ASAP after you break up with her. You'll actually being doing both of yourselves a favor. Plus being early 30s male is not same as early 30s female. Though not ideal you can choose to have kids in your late 30s or even early 40s, she can't.

So you already wasted enough of her time already, and your not happy in the relationship clearly.

Breaking up is never easy, but when the time comes it rarely plays out as bad as the scenarios you had in your head. Good luck!

[CleanSlate]

(05-20-2019 08:57 PM)LatinoHeat Wrote:  

READ THIS please first. Is this a "fuck yes?" Its not even a hellyes, it seems like a "no, but i'm scared to make the move"

Fuck yes or no is a great philosophy for decisions but esp with kids, it needs to be a fuck yes, which clearly you aren't even at a maybe, I don't really know you but based on what I read I think having kids with this girl will be a disaster for you both.

Also in response to some people here saying its a "shit test" i mean come on, ok say you somehow convince her to stay with you and not get married and have kids, she'll be miserable, and so will you. Terrible scenario even if your "keeping the frame" or whatever lame PUA term manages to work in keeping her around.

Sounds like you already made your decision but are being too chicken to pull the trigger .

You don't want kids, esp with her. You don't want to get married. You don't like the cultural aspect of marrying her family. Doesn't even sound like your in love with her anymore.

I know how it is I recently had to end an 8 year relationship with my biz partner and I spent many months doing this same agonizing back and forth thinking in my head when it was obvious it was the right decision.

Yes you took her prime years away but trust me in the thirsty ass USA she will find no problem finding another american dude to knock her up ASAP after you break up with her. You'll actually being doing both of yourselves a favor. Plus being early 30s male is not same as early 30s female. Though not ideal you can choose to have kids in your late 30s or even early 40s, she can't.

So you already wasted enough of her time already, and your not happy in the relationship clearly.

Breaking up is never easy, but when the time comes it rarely plays out as bad as the scenarios you had in your head. Good luck!

100% agree

[StrikeBack]

Some of you guys sound as pathetic as the broken modern women you complain so much about.

If you don't want family and children, or are not yet sure, do not get into a serious, multi-year relationship, especially not with a woman from a traditional background with a healthy family focus. You are just wasting her time, and most importantly, your own time and opportunities. If you want to play around, there are plenty of slutty easy ones these days. Have at it, it's a great all-you-can-bang buffet out there.

This isn't a shit test from the woman. You are just being shit.

[EndsExpect]

(05-16-2019 06:43 PM)MyFabolousLife Wrote:  

A part of me wants to just let her go and ditch my awful corporate job then go travel/work abroad and save for an early retirement and casually date multiple women but then a part of me wants to stick it out because I have a decent set up already and probably won’t find this setup again in the United States.
So, should I just continue the relationship until she breaks up with me? Should I just break up with her now? Move forward and propose? Also … Any experience dating/marrying women from SE Asia/Philippines?

I can also be very introverted. I also like alone time. I am married to a SEA woman... and I get the space I need plus extra.

I'm going to point out to you that most women want a big public wedding ceremony, but are much less interested in the marriage certificate. You can give her a wedding without actually marrying her... thus fulfilling both of your desires. You can make the argument that you are now married in the eyes of her God, which is all that should matter to her.

You have to set out this idea that you occasionally need some alone time. I did this and have brokered several deals over the course of my relationship that have left us both very satisfied. You just need to be honest and upfront about this.

Regarding SEA women that are controlling... you need to be the type of guy who can't be controlled. When she asks for something... say NO. Keep saying NO even to small, ridiculous things until she stops asking. Then you can build from there. I got to a point where I would ask her for things often... now I don't even have to ask. For example, when I wake up she makes coffee for me right away and is super proud of it because I praise the shit out of her for it.