[Moma]

(12-08-2011 08:13 PM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

Have you ever tried daily brain teasers? Lots of science in reference to that. Solve a mathematical equation, or, any other type of games, to increase your cognitive abilities. I'm not sure why you would want a supplement as this age though.

I have slight ADD, I need supplemental assistance. When i take certain things, my mind is more focused etc.
My place remains messy when I am in my worst states and I procrastinate dreadfully due to the stress of over-analysing shyt.
I think it's my elephant memory that has saved me during education.

[Donald Duck]

Have you tried a supplement called Q10?

[Moma]

(12-09-2011 11:10 AM)Donald Duck Wrote:  

Have you tried a supplement called Q10?

Coenzyme Q10? I tried that back in the day and it was great for energy.

[Pusscrook]

(12-09-2011 09:44 AM)Moma Wrote:  

(12-08-2011 08:13 PM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

Have you ever tried daily brain teasers? Lots of science in reference to that. Solve a mathematical equation, or, any other type of games, to increase your cognitive abilities. I'm not sure why you would want a supplement as this age though.

I have slight ADD, I need supplemental assistance. When i take certain things, my mind is more focused etc.
My place remains messy when I am in my worst states and I procrastinate dreadfully due to the stress of over-analysing shyt.
I think it's my elephant memory that has saved me during education.

When you say you have "slight ADD" , were you diagnosed with the disorder? Tons of people have been diagnosed/misdiagnosed with ADHD, yet, a lot of them have turned out to be some of the most brilliant people you would ever meet. Brain teasers will aid in self regulation, especially if there is a reward,plus, it sharpens your cognitive skills beyond belief. It's better than any supplement, since, it is a conditioning of the mind.

[Moma]

(12-09-2011 01:44 PM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

(12-09-2011 09:44 AM)Moma Wrote:  

(12-08-2011 08:13 PM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

Have you ever tried daily brain teasers? Lots of science in reference to that. Solve a mathematical equation, or, any other type of games, to increase your cognitive abilities. I'm not sure why you would want a supplement as this age though.

I have slight ADD, I need supplemental assistance. When i take certain things, my mind is more focused etc.
My place remains messy when I am in my worst states and I procrastinate dreadfully due to the stress of over-analysing shyt.
I think it's my elephant memory that has saved me during education.

When you say you have "slight ADD" , were you diagnosed with the disorder? Tons of people have been diagnosed/misdiagnosed with ADHD, yet, a lot of them have turned out to be some of the most brilliant people you would ever meet. Brain teasers will aid in self regulation, especially if there is a reward,plus, it sharpens your cognitive skills beyond belief. It's better than any supplement, since, it is a conditioning of the mind.

I wasn't, you know I grew up in UK, they don't do all the hypochondriac stuff they do over here. Many of my friends are dyslexic but they were just classified as knuckleheads and moved on with the show.

I have several sums books and I am always running calculations in my head with mental arithmetic just for fun.

I found when I took certain supplements it helped for a while and then tapered off. I was looking for the ultimate ACV equiv here.
I came in from clubbing last night around 2:30am. I had woken up the day before at 5:00am (for work). I had to wake up this morning for 6:00am. Fcuk Maxwells. Two tablespoons of ACV and I'm a soldier with mine.
I just look for the same equivalent on the mental front.
I'm 95% certain it's a supplement issue.

[Pusscrook]

(12-09-2011 01:50 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(12-09-2011 01:44 PM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

(12-09-2011 09:44 AM)Moma Wrote:  

(12-08-2011 08:13 PM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

Have you ever tried daily brain teasers? Lots of science in reference to that. Solve a mathematical equation, or, any other type of games, to increase your cognitive abilities. I'm not sure why you would want a supplement as this age though.

I have slight ADD, I need supplemental assistance. When i take certain things, my mind is more focused etc.
My place remains messy when I am in my worst states and I procrastinate dreadfully due to the stress of over-analysing shyt.
I think it's my elephant memory that has saved me during education.

When you say you have "slight ADD" , were you diagnosed with the disorder? Tons of people have been diagnosed/misdiagnosed with ADHD, yet, a lot of them have turned out to be some of the most brilliant people you would ever meet. Brain teasers will aid in self regulation, especially if there is a reward,plus, it sharpens your cognitive skills beyond belief. It's better than any supplement, since, it is a conditioning of the mind.

I wasn't, you know I grew up in UK, they don't do all the hypochondriac stuff they do over here. Many of my friends are dyslexic but they were just classified as knuckleheads and moved on with the show.

I have several sums books and I am always running calculations in my head with mental arithmetic just for fun.

I found when I took certain supplements it helped for a while and then tapered off. I was looking for the ultimate ACV equiv here.
I came in from clubbing last night around 2:30am. I had woken up the day before at 5:00am (for work). I had to wake up this morning for 6:00am. Fcuk Maxwells. Two tablespoons of ACV and I'm a soldier with mine.
I just look for the same equivalent on the mental front.
I'm 95% certain it's a supplement issue.

Perhaps it's not ADD? Maybe you have an active brain, and require more challenges in life than what you are presented with. Its like the guy who says, "I need 8 hours of sleep", simply because he was told 8 hours would make him function better. Do you really believe that?

[Moma]

(12-09-2011 09:19 PM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

Perhaps it's not ADD? Maybe you have an active brain, and require more challenges in life than what you are presented with. Its like the guy who says, "I need 8 hours of sleep", simply because he was told 8 hours would make him function better. Do you really believe that?

I've tried out every other alternative. When I have supplemented with natural elements that deal with scatterbrain, I have responded very favourably.

[Pusscrook]

(12-10-2011 09:11 AM)Moma Wrote:  

(12-09-2011 09:19 PM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

Perhaps it's not ADD? Maybe you have an active brain, and require more challenges in life than what you are presented with. Its like the guy who says, "I need 8 hours of sleep", simply because he was told 8 hours would make him function better. Do you really believe that?

I've tried out every other alternative. When I have supplemented with natural elements that deal with scatterbrain, I have responded very favourably.

When you take this "supplement" do you focus more in general, or do you procrastinate less depending on the task?

[pitt]

Moma you are a young cat, no need to be taking that shit.

Get the habit of jogging everyday, work out, eat nice food and lots of it, read for one hour at least per day and you will be fine. Make it natural.

[Moma]

(12-13-2011 12:08 AM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

(12-10-2011 09:11 AM)Moma Wrote:  

(12-09-2011 09:19 PM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

Perhaps it's not ADD? Maybe you have an active brain, and require more challenges in life than what you are presented with. Its like the guy who says, "I need 8 hours of sleep", simply because he was told 8 hours would make him function better. Do you really believe that?

I've tried out every other alternative. When I have supplemented with natural elements that deal with scatterbrain, I have responded very favourably.

When you take this "supplement" do you focus more in general, or do you procrastinate less depending on the task?

I think focusing more and procrastinating less. I find it easier to focus on important tasks instead of dilly dallying browsing aimlessly.
Even when I find myself drifting off into distraction, I am able to consciously recognise it and more readily pull myself back into the task at hand.
For instance, sometimes if I am reading a particularly informative book or pdf, if the ideas are very interesting to me, I become infused with energy and I jump up and start pacing instead of letting the information flow through more readily.
I am less impulsive but consequently less creative. My more creative pieces comes when I am in scatterbrain mode.

[Pusscrook]

(12-13-2011 09:22 AM)Moma Wrote:  

(12-13-2011 12:08 AM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

(12-10-2011 09:11 AM)Moma Wrote:  

(12-09-2011 09:19 PM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

Perhaps it's not ADD? Maybe you have an active brain, and require more challenges in life than what you are presented with. Its like the guy who says, "I need 8 hours of sleep", simply because he was told 8 hours would make him function better. Do you really believe that?

I've tried out every other alternative. When I have supplemented with natural elements that deal with scatterbrain, I have responded very favourably.

When you take this "supplement" do you focus more in general, or do you procrastinate less depending on the task?

I think focusing more and procrastinating less. I find it easier to focus on important tasks instead of dilly dallying browsing aimlessly.
Even when I find myself drifting off into distraction, I am able to consciously recognise it and more readily pull myself back into the task at hand.
For instance, sometimes if I am reading a particularly informative book or pdf, if the ideas are very interesting to me, I become infused with energy and I jump up and start pacing instead of letting the information flow through more readily.
I am less impulsive but consequently less creative. My more creative pieces comes when I am in scatterbrain mode.

Seems as though you have identified triggers that one can assume are imbalances in brain chemistry. This could also be quite genetic, and if it is, then learning the things that trigger such impulses is a good a cure as any. As in my case, my Grandparents never sat still for 2 seconds. It could also be environmental, but, I often question why is it this disorder seems to be centralized and diagnosed/reported more so , in industrialized nations. Maybe there's just more to do, in a short span of time in such nations. My guess is that it is purely genetic, and one would find kids in the Sahara, acting the same way if they were predisposed to such traits. I try my best to stay away from conventional medicines, but sometimes they are needed in severe cases. I think someone on here already mentioned Ginkoba for focus and stimuli, and I also drink a lot of valerian , chamomille, tea when I feel certain impulses that may stir up the urge to wander the halls of Montezuma. If you find that you are more creative when in "scatter brain mode", I am not sure why this would warrant a cure. Some of the most brilliant men in history would be diagnosed today as "scatterbrained".

[Moma]

(12-13-2011 09:57 AM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

Seems as though you have identified triggers that one can assume are imbalances in brain chemistry. This could also be quite genetic, and if it is, then learning the things that trigger such impulses is a good a cure as any. As in my case, my Grandparents never sat still for 2 seconds. It could also be environmental, but, I often question why is it this disorder seems to be centralized and diagnosed/reported more so , in industrialized nations. Maybe there's just more to do, in a short span of time in such nations. My guess is that it is purely genetic, and one would find kids in the Sahara, acting the same way if they were predisposed to such traits. I try my best to stay away from conventional medicines, but sometimes they are needed in severe cases. I think someone on here already mentioned Ginkoba for focus and stimuli, and I also drink a lot of valerian , chamomille, tea when I feel certain impulses that may stir up the urge to wander the halls of Montezuma. If you find that you are more creative when in "scatter brain mode", I am not sure why this would warrant a cure. Some of the most brilliant men in history would be diagnosed today as "scatterbrained".

Yes, i've tried Gingko before but it gives me excessive erections. As much as I luv slaying lizards, I also enjoy acquiring informations and I've never been good at studying with a hard one.
Yes, I still feel there is a natural alternative. I don't do well with pharmaceutical shyt at all.

[Pusscrook]

(12-13-2011 10:04 AM)Moma Wrote:  

(12-13-2011 09:57 AM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

Seems as though you have identified triggers that one can assume are imbalances in brain chemistry. This could also be quite genetic, and if it is, then learning the things that trigger such impulses is a good a cure as any. As in my case, my Grandparents never sat still for 2 seconds. It could also be environmental, but, I often question why is it this disorder seems to be centralized and diagnosed/reported more so , in industrialized nations. Maybe there's just more to do, in a short span of time in such nations. My guess is that it is purely genetic, and one would find kids in the Sahara, acting the same way if they were predisposed to such traits. I try my best to stay away from conventional medicines, but sometimes they are needed in severe cases. I think someone on here already mentioned Ginkoba for focus and stimuli, and I also drink a lot of valerian , chamomille, tea when I feel certain impulses that may stir up the urge to wander the halls of Montezuma. If you find that you are more creative when in "scatter brain mode", I am not sure why this would warrant a cure. Some of the most brilliant men in history would be diagnosed today as "scatterbrained".

Yes, i've tried Gingko before but it gives me excessive erections. As much as I luv slaying lizards, I also enjoy acquiring informations and I've never been good at studying with a hard one.
Yes, I still feel there is a natural alternative. I don't do well with pharmaceutical shyt at all.

I think you have this all figured out.

1.Ginko when you want to fuck a lizard into a trance, or, get creative when the urge hits.
2. Valerian tea, or any other natural substance to calm the neurons, (try it) when you get an impulsive feeling to "roam".

Either way, you are definitely not a candidate for a big pharma company to extract money from.

[Moma]

(12-13-2011 02:14 PM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

(12-13-2011 10:04 AM)Moma Wrote:  

(12-13-2011 09:57 AM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

Seems as though you have identified triggers that one can assume are imbalances in brain chemistry. This could also be quite genetic, and if it is, then learning the things that trigger such impulses is a good a cure as any. As in my case, my Grandparents never sat still for 2 seconds. It could also be environmental, but, I often question why is it this disorder seems to be centralized and diagnosed/reported more so , in industrialized nations. Maybe there's just more to do, in a short span of time in such nations. My guess is that it is purely genetic, and one would find kids in the Sahara, acting the same way if they were predisposed to such traits. I try my best to stay away from conventional medicines, but sometimes they are needed in severe cases. I think someone on here already mentioned Ginkoba for focus and stimuli, and I also drink a lot of valerian , chamomille, tea when I feel certain impulses that may stir up the urge to wander the halls of Montezuma. If you find that you are more creative when in "scatter brain mode", I am not sure why this would warrant a cure. Some of the most brilliant men in history would be diagnosed today as "scatterbrained".

Yes, i've tried Gingko before but it gives me excessive erections. As much as I luv slaying lizards, I also enjoy acquiring informations and I've never been good at studying with a hard one.
Yes, I still feel there is a natural alternative. I don't do well with pharmaceutical shyt at all.

I think you have this all figured out.

1.Ginko when you want to fuck a lizard into a trance, or, get creative when the urge hits.
2. Valerian tea, or any other natural substance to calm the neurons, (try it) when you get an impulsive feeling to "roam".

Either way, you are definitely not a candidate for a big pharma company to extract money from.

Yea, I was trying to incorporate all options here. Superior mental capacities has always intrigued me.

[Pusscrook]

(12-13-2011 02:20 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(12-13-2011 02:14 PM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

(12-13-2011 10:04 AM)Moma Wrote:  

(12-13-2011 09:57 AM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

Seems as though you have identified triggers that one can assume are imbalances in brain chemistry. This could also be quite genetic, and if it is, then learning the things that trigger such impulses is a good a cure as any. As in my case, my Grandparents never sat still for 2 seconds. It could also be environmental, but, I often question why is it this disorder seems to be centralized and diagnosed/reported more so , in industrialized nations. Maybe there's just more to do, in a short span of time in such nations. My guess is that it is purely genetic, and one would find kids in the Sahara, acting the same way if they were predisposed to such traits. I try my best to stay away from conventional medicines, but sometimes they are needed in severe cases. I think someone on here already mentioned Ginkoba for focus and stimuli, and I also drink a lot of valerian , chamomille, tea when I feel certain impulses that may stir up the urge to wander the halls of Montezuma. If you find that you are more creative when in "scatter brain mode", I am not sure why this would warrant a cure. Some of the most brilliant men in history would be diagnosed today as "scatterbrained".

Yes, i've tried Gingko before but it gives me excessive erections. As much as I luv slaying lizards, I also enjoy acquiring informations and I've never been good at studying with a hard one.
Yes, I still feel there is a natural alternative. I don't do well with pharmaceutical shyt at all.

I think you have this all figured out.

1.Ginko when you want to fuck a lizard into a trance, or, get creative when the urge hits.
2. Valerian tea, or any other natural substance to calm the neurons, (try it) when you get an impulsive feeling to "roam".

Either way, you are definitely not a candidate for a big pharma company to extract money from.

Yea, I was trying to incorporate all options here. Superior mental capacities has always intrigued me.

Trust me brother, a lot of disorders are invented.... You can feel things without having to ascribe to a theory. The trick is controlling what you feel, unless of course, the gene, has mutated beyond your control. In your case, this is so mild that I would continue on the path of creativity, even if science says otherwise. As long as you are not disruptive to society , or yourself, rock on, fuck on!

[mofo]

This thread is gold. Today I bought Gingko, Siberian Ginseng, Cider Vinegar, CoQ10, Vitamin E,C, Multivitamin, Fish oil. I'll buy more stuff later on.

[KingofScotland]

I've tried countless different supplements for countless different things over the year, some for months on end and genuinely I've never noticed any obvious difference from them. Not saying they don't help as some of them are probably beneficial for my health without being noticeable but nothing to make me want to continue long term. I need something that helps with focus and cuts through the brain fog I constantly experience but supplements so far haven't helped.

[mofo]

(12-14-2011 03:13 PM)KingofScotland Wrote:  

I've tried countless different supplements for countless different things over the year, some for months on end and genuinely I've never noticed any obvious difference from them. Not saying they don't help as some of them are probably beneficial for my health without being noticeable but nothing to make me want to continue long term. I need something that helps with focus and cuts through the brain fog I constantly experience but supplements so far haven't helped.

Are you doing the paleo diet? You should try it for a few months.

[Dolmance]

POM:
Methylphenidate/MPH(Ritalin)
Modafinil

MPH works better if you are a natural procrastinator but modafinil has fewer sides. I prefer ritalin for the laser focus and the motivational kick up the arse, but I don't use it for longer than a few months at a time and only when the need is pressing. Modafinil I've used fora whole year before with no problem coming off except a bone-deep weariness for a week or two after quitting.

It's possible to become addicted to ritalin and end up an abuser if you are that way inclined and not too careful. I know one person who experienced amphetamine psychosis because she used ritalin irresponsibly, but she was a little crazy to begin with anyway. If you've ever been addicted to stimulants or you suffer from anxiety or depression then it's best to give MPH a miss.

From personal experience it is possible to become habituated to them as well so that you can sometimes feel that you cannot possibly work without them. It can be a real problem if your work requires you to be creative (writing, music, mathematics, etc). It's something of which you should be aware, but you can use some of the more effective nootropics until the mental block passes.

I've tried many nootropics but none of them come close to MPH or modafinil in effect, however the nootropics below certainly work and are relatively side free.

Chemical Nootropics:
ALCAR (acetyl l-carnitine) - gives you both mental and physical energy
Piracetem - cheapest of the racetams, can buy it in bulk
Choline - take it with any racetam for increased effect
Sulbutiamine - memory enhancement and has a mild stimulant effect
Centrophenoxine - alertness
L-tryrosine - motivation and focus

Smart Nutrition do a decent nootropic stack called Get Smart that contains most of the common nootropics. Not every ingredient is at a high enough dosag to be completely effective, but it worked well for me at 2 pills a day for boosting memory, creativity and focus.

If you've been diagnosed with ADHD, I would definitely get a script for ritalin. Personally, I don't believe that ADHD is a real condition that warrants medical intervention, but ritalin and modafinil certainly have their uses.

D.

[KingofScotland]

http://www.smartnutrition.co.uk ?

Can't see the Get Smart product listed. Would be interested in trying that.

[Dolmance]

(12-14-2011 04:58 PM)KingofScotland Wrote:  

http://www.smartnutrition.co.uk ?

Can't see the Get Smart product listed. Would be interested in trying that.

No, it's this one here:

http://www.smart-drugs.net/Get-Smart.htm

D.

[Menace]

(12-14-2011 05:00 PM)Dolmance Wrote:  

(12-14-2011 04:58 PM)KingofScotland Wrote:  

http://www.smartnutrition.co.uk ?

Can't see the Get Smart product listed. Would be interested in trying that.

No, it's this one here:

http://www.smart-drugs.net/Get-Smart.htm

D.

Ordered some. Will see how it goes. I'm trying some Cordyceps, but I have not noticed any effects from it.

[Pilgrim37]

Check out this Doctor,you can see him talk on youtube,he's got some ideas on brain and supplements:

http://www.dockidd.com/

[Alfonzo]

Ok I read some stupid stuff on this post . First I have ADD so I will respond to some of the issues .
The ADD pills will not be good for everyone. Adderall or other anphetamines med can be good for someone and for someone else he will have really bad side effects . It depend of your body . If your not diagnosted with add take other alternative like natural things , like omega 3 with more dha,green tea and probably just have a healthy lifestyle(good sleep, eat well,etc) .

Another point that annoy me when people said add people are dumb . They just don't know shit what they talked about . For my self And all the majortity of Add people than I know We had the better result in IQ and other psychologic test at school . I will talk for my self because we all got different level of symptome . But for my self it's the focus,procrastination ,day dream,fog and brain hyperactivity that are severe .All of these symptomes are really annoying in your 20's so if you have these issues and they are severe like me , you should consult and pass all the test . I retook control of my life since i'm medicated .

[Pilgrim37]

Interesting from the Doc Kidd: