[ManAbout]

(05-26-2011 01:28 PM)Lumiere Wrote:  

(05-26-2011 01:15 PM)ManAbout Wrote:  

(05-26-2011 01:05 PM)Lumiere Wrote:  

I was pretty sucessful in my 20

Now? I just turned 40 and the last 2 years have been ridiculously off the charts to a point I never even could have imagined in my 20s.

How well do you do with the 18-21 year olds in the UK?

Have not lived in the UK since 2006.

OK, just wondering how other players in their 30s and beyond do on their hometurf with the 18-21 year old crowd.

[UrbanNerd]

(05-26-2011 11:35 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

I'm something of a hotel connoisseur, and while the Setai is a fabolous hotel that speaks volumes of your class, I'd pick the W for recruiting talent to your abode. It's got that superficial jetset tag that just does it for the crowd that's not fully up to speed with true taste (that is 95% of all women).

Slightly OT I know.

**point taken and jotted down**

[Dash Global]

The huge problem comes about for people like me that want a family by 35 and want to travel the world and hook up with chicks across the globe while in their 20's. People like myself are taking a gamble with their future finances as we are behind the curve to guys that started their career right out of college. Im gonna try and visit all the places and slay as many chicks for the nxt 5-10 yrs. Then at 35 im gonna have to slow down and start a family. Atleast thats the plan.....

[UrbanNerd]

(05-26-2011 02:12 PM)Dash Global Wrote:  

The huge problem comes about for people like me that want a family by 35 and want to travel the world and hook up with chicks across the globe while in their 20's. People like myself are taking a gamble with their future finances as we are behind the curve to guys that started their career right out of college. Im gonna try and visit all the places and slay as many chicks for the nxt 5-10 yrs. Then at 35 im gonna have to slow down and start a family. Atleast thats the plan.....

I did that plan and YES, financially it is risky. I will pretty much HAVE to work until my 60's because I basically pissed-away any money made during my 20's.

But I will say this....

1) I have stories to tell from my travels...and (most importantly)

2) While at home helping my daughter with her homework, I don't have to say to myself "boy I wished I did this...I wished I did that". When I hear some young cat saying that he is going to:

Rio Carnival...or
Caribana (Toronto)...or
Whatever that big event in the South of France...or
Trinidad's Carnival...or
**fill in the blanks**

...most of the time, I can say "been there done that".

It makes staying in on a Friday much easier.

[Dash Global]

im gonna try and get some investments started soon that will help offset some of the future financial issues. cuz i still have way to many places to go and women to meet!

[Diablo]

So at what time in your life can you say that the game is over for you?

[Diablo]

And what time can you say it wouldn't be possible to snag 18-25 range?

[thegmanifesto]

Diablo -

"And what time can you say it wouldn't be possible to snag 18-25 range?"

This can be offset by your location.

I find it way easier to swoop girls in that age range in Miami than California generally speaking.

If you go to another country you can definitely gain years, depending on country.

With Latinas, it is not uncommon to see a 20 year age difference.

Hell, in Argentina, I was dating a girl who's MOM was like 44 and who's boyfriend was 80 years old!

The guy was a Mack, with a capital M.

[Agent_GQ]

(05-26-2011 02:45 PM)Diablo Wrote:  

So at what time in your life can you say that the game is over for you?

When the clock stops ticking and they put you in the ground.

The 80 year old Argentine mack that G mentioned is a great example. I've known of many old Latin don's on the 'most interesting man in the world' tip who are still slaying in their 60's, 70's, and 80's. Mixx's story about his grandfather (you'll have to search for it) is another great example.

[Trouble]

(05-26-2011 12:40 PM)ManAbout Wrote:  

It is the 18-23 age group that seems to get out of grasp the older you get, unless you have compensating factors or live in a place like Brazil, Ukraine, Colombia etc.

That all depends on how young you look in your 30s and 40s. I'm in my mid 30s and girls I know for a fact are in HS give me looks all the time.

[ManAbout]

(05-26-2011 05:07 PM)Trouble Wrote:  

(05-26-2011 12:40 PM)ManAbout Wrote:  

It is the 18-23 age group that seems to get out of grasp the older you get, unless you have compensating factors or live in a place like Brazil, Ukraine, Colombia etc.

That all depends on how young you look in your 30s and 40s. I'm in my mid 30s and girls I know for a fact are in HS give me looks all the time.

I know, I still get the glances from HS girls. Heck, the other day I got a number off some girl I thought was 20 years old, turns out she was only 17. But, I doubt that's going to happen 10 years from now.

[Excelsior]

(05-26-2011 03:47 PM)Agent_GQ Wrote:  

(05-26-2011 02:45 PM)Diablo Wrote:  

So at what time in your life can you say that the game is over for you?

When the clock stops ticking and they put you in the ground.

The 80 year old Argentine mack that G mentioned is a great example. I've known of many old Latin don's on the 'most interesting man in the world' tip who are still slaying in their 60's, 70's, and 80's. Mixx's story about his grandfather (you'll have to search for it) is another great example.

Yes, this is all dead on.

The key is this: the USA is an exception to a general rule in that it roundly discourages age gaps when it comes to men seeking younger women. This is because the US (and the UK to a similar extent) has a habit of pedestalizing older women and pumping up their value. I call it the "sex and the city phenomenon", where you have 35 year old women behaving like 18 year old 10s and making similarly high demands not befitting their actual value, all the while still thinking they can snag "Mr. Big" while well past their prime.

"40 is the new 30" they say. This phenomenon is the reason why a cougar can date guys of whatever age she wants, but men are discouraged from dating down-it is essentially a way for older women/feminists in this society to shame men and maintain some of their value relative to younger women.

Just about everywhere else, age gaps are tolerated, and sometimes even expected/promoted. This is the reason why 50 year old men can regularly pull 20-somethings in most of Asia, Eastern Europe and Latin America.

If you're an American, you'll get a little anxious about aging because your society has shamed you into thinking that:
a) It is unmanly and wrong for a man to want to remain single well into his thirties, nevermind continue dating casually at that age.
b) It is "creepy" for a man in that age range(say 35) to seek women 18-27, and he should look to date closer to his age for "compatibility", and other assorted BS.

If you're not living in this matrix, then your shelf life is only limited by your ability to stay in shape and groom yourself, and even those things might not be entirely necessary if you have enough money. This allows more men in places like Latin America to keep gaming into their late 50's and 60's, or, as I will soon show, their late 70's.

Here I now present the story of MiXX's grandfather, who was impregnating twenty-somethings well into his late 70's:

(07-23-2010 01:42 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

(07-23-2010 01:30 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

So basically what you're saying is that you're a "natural", you've never had to "learn" game like the rest of us.

About 12 years ago, my grandfather died at the ripe old age of 81. At his funeral ceremony, there were lots of friends, family members and unknown guests all crying and paying their respects to my grandpa.

In particular, there was one unknown guest whom was of particular interest to the family. She was about 19 years old, crying, and literally throwing herself on my grandpa's coffin in lots of pain and deep emotional outbursts.

Weeks later, I pinged my mom, and asked her who that mystery girl was......she did not know. Eventually, an investigation as to who she was led us to understand that she was my grandpa's lover. Now, my grandfather was not rich, nor did he have a fortune to pass on to anybody at all....he was a middle class man on retirement money and SS benefits - nothing to be concerned about.

Now, the real shocker wasn't so much that she was 19, but she was pregnant from my grandpa - DNA confirmed.

I have, at the age of 35, a 12 year old blood uncle who was actually visiting me last night - to come over and play PS3 games.

Looking at my pedigree...I guess I am, well a natural.

Mixx

There you have it, folks. Don't be afraid of father time when it comes to game-he's your friend, not your enemy.

[thegmanifesto]

While we are on the subject, let me elaborate on the 80 year old Argentinian Playboy:

He was taller than me, maybe 6'2.

Dressed smooth.

Slicked back white hair. Dapper cat.

Strong. Physically the guy has no problems.

Dominates at cooking Asado. The cat could really f*ck sh*t up on a grill.

Not super rich. He worked for Argentinian FBI or something.

Retired.

Real cool cat, I hung out with him a lot.

Also, agreed on what Athlone McGinnis said as far as how age gaps are encouraged for females but not for males in America.

That is this week's sign that the apocalypse is coming.

[MiXX]

LOL! - good to see my grandpa was representing on this thread....man do I miss him.

Mixx

[rozayINTL]

G,

this is inspiration to me, I use insight like this to keep my focus and desire as high as possible. I am trying to kill it now in school so I can go far in the finance game and get out/self sustain early enough to live and experience life in the way that guys like you, mixx and roosh have. I want to be in my mid 50's and styled out with sexy 20 year old vixens fallin in love on the reg. I come from a shitty background, and don't have a deep education in the game, but I'm always hungry and see things for what they are. Always gotta learn and improve every day

[rozayINTL]

Just read the background on your grandpa Mixx. There are no words to do that justice

[Excelsior]

Tom Leykis on aging and why it is good news for most men, and really bad news for women:

There are four parts, check them out.

Bottomline: Guys have a lot of good things to look forward to.

[Hokie30]

Wow, all the suckers in this forum are praising G Manifesto as if he was a prophet. The funny thing is that G Manifesto's guide for "getting more out of life" can only be used by about 1% of the single male population. If one has an average $21/hour job (which most middle class American's do in this recession) then custom suits, gucci loafers, overseas travel, uncomplicated logistics and swooping models at expensive lounges is not gonna be feasible!

Shoot, I make twice the amount of a typical American and still can't dress anywhere close to what MGM describes in his blog. Even when I wear expensive off the shelf suits ($500 is expensive for me!) I get confused with all the drone lawyers and businessman who are running amock in Washington, DC.

I wish MGM would write a story on how to get "more out of life" for broke brothers, or better yet how to swoop models on a limited budget!

[Saladin]

(05-26-2011 11:15 PM)Hokie30 Wrote:  

Wow, all the suckers in this forum are praising G Manifesto as if he was a prophet. The funny thing is that G Manifesto's guide for "getting more out of life" can only be used by about 1% of the single male population. If one has an average $21/hour job (which most middle class American's do in this recession) then custom suits, gucci loafers, overseas travel, uncomplicated logistics and swooping models at expensive lounges is not gonna be feasible!

Shoot, I make twice the amount of a typical American and still can't dress anywhere close to what MGM describes in his blog. Even when I wear expensive off the shelf suits ($500 is expensive for me!) I get confused with all the drone lawyers and businessman who are running amock in Washington, DC.

I wish MGM would write a story on how to get "more out of life" for broke brothers, or better yet how to swoop models on a limited budget!

His advice is gold and inspires those who dont have the dough to make dough. I believe that I'm destined for that lifestyle and I'm working hard to acquire it. Of vourse im a young cat who can strategize years in advance before I graduate college which does give me time to fail and learn multiple times. Guys like the G man show me whats possible, its up to me to make it happen.

[rozayINTL]

Toronto kid... couldn't be more spot on. I am in the same place. It's about thinking ahead and making it happen for you.

I don't give a fuck if I never get to buy custom suits when I am older, if I never have the aspiration, goals and examples like G to learn from, it will never happen regardless.

...At the end of the day
...It's really not about custom suits & expensive watches, its the mindset and approach that those things symbolize.

It's the ongoing (not already accomplished) dreams of further success that gives them meaning, whether you have them YET or not.

[Vicious]

(05-26-2011 11:15 PM)Hokie30 Wrote:  

Wow, all the suckers in this forum are praising G Manifesto as if he was a prophet. The funny thing is that G Manifesto's guide for "getting more out of life" can only be used by about 1% of the single male population. If one has an average $21/hour job (which most middle class American's do in this recession) then custom suits, gucci loafers, overseas travel, uncomplicated logistics and swooping models at expensive lounges is not gonna be feasible!

-snip-

I wish MGM would write a story on how to get "more out of life" for broke brothers, or better yet how to swoop models on a limited budget!

The point was obviously that you shouldn't put yourself in the position of having an average job. Go to college, start a business, make long term investments - just don't go dragging your feet thinking something good will happen eventually.

Life is coming to those of us that are goal-oriented and motivated to do something about it. The people that have no bigger aspirations than run the cashier at Rite-aid are simply not fit for the advise in here because it's directed at driven, resourceful individuals. Those that want a magic bullet to solve their problems need not apply.

Also, G has obviously made his contribution to this forum. If you have a problem with his advice being directed at 1% of the population then you should BUST YOUR ASS to be in that 1%

[txbeachbum]

The key to the whole playboy thing is to have TIME & MONEY!!!

See we all know plenty of guys who make $200k+ a year but they have to be at work everyday @ 9 am and thats no fun, just a typical overpaid paid drone. Usually boring driving a lame BMW who looks forward to the weekend and tired happy hours.

On the other hand we have backpackers who travel the world on a $500 a month budget who have all the time in the world and experience places and people to have a great time, but don't really have much $$ to enjoy it when the opportunity arises.

But combine both having the money to party hang out all night have a nice place and still able to jet set when you want, thats what makes you different, and you become very unpredictable to women and different.

And to the guys talking about working on their careers 10-15 years and THEN traveling, thats some BS many people tell themselves.

Usually all the people who I know took that path ended up with a huge detour like kids, mortgages, illness, wife, divorce etc.

And WTF is a career now days?

I asked myself why do I have to choose between getting wealthy or traveling world? I decide I wanted to have BOTH not one nor the other, so I figured out away to make good $$ anywhere in the world from internet then I moved to a tropical but less expensive place (DR) while saving $1,000's a month with no sacrifice in lifestyle and surrounded by nice weather and sexy tons of sexy women.


In addition I travel to other countries when I need a break from the DR.

So with the savings from living in a less expensive place, now I'm looking at buying an apartment buildings in the states, which i will hire a management company to run once thats is in place which should take 1-2 months, then I'm back to DR and traveling the world.

But you will never be able to do it with a job, unless you work remotely. So for the 99% that can't work remote YOU MUST START A BUSINESS!!

Once you start the biz and it starts making money spend less than you earn, try to save at least $500-$1000 a month

Live somewhere with a low cost of living.

Take your savings and invest in something else that throws off cashflow, dividend paying stocks, rental real estate, whatever but it must generate cash within 90 days.

Now you just rinse & repeat the more you make from your business, the more you save and invest in more things that bring you money.

Every month you get richer and richer as you get older you will become wealthy while having the time of your life, and decide it you still want to be a playboy or settle down in family life. You have options now.

Keep it simple, I could go into more detail but it would take 10 post to write.

If you look at all the international playboys, they have time & money and still young enough to enjoy it.

[txbeachbum]

(05-26-2011 11:15 PM)Hokie30 Wrote:  

Wow, all the suckers in this forum are praising G Manifesto as if he was a prophet. The funny thing is that G Manifesto's guide for "getting more out of life" can only be used by about 1% of the single male population. If one has an average $21/hour job (which most middle class American's do in this recession) then custom suits, gucci loafers, overseas travel, uncomplicated logistics and swooping models at expensive lounges is not gonna be feasible!

Shoot, I make twice the amount of a typical American and still can't dress anywhere close to what MGM describes in his blog. Even when I wear expensive off the shelf suits ($500 is expensive for me!) I get confused with all the drone lawyers and businessman who are running amock in Washington, DC.

I wish MGM would write a story on how to get "more out of life" for broke brothers, or better yet how to swoop models on a limited budget!

The best advice I can give is don't be a broke brother...figure out how to be a rich one.

And make your budget bigger nobody is stopping you from earning $$ outside your job.

I mean really why would a model want to hang with a broke dude anyway? Do you wanna kick it with a broke bitch?

You can get models with no money if she likes ya for you doesn't matter what you have, you don't need private jets, and stay in 5 star hotels to get models. never have never will. It's a excuse guys tell themselves.

But on the flip, 9/10 times she not gonna be hanging out in places where broke people go anyway, so you gonna need some bread just to get into places where you can woo her with your personality.

Yes you can find top notch hoes on clearance sometimes but its rare.

[pitt]

Yes i completely agree with texas bum, it is all about making money and having free time, it is good to try to combine both.

I just became 25 and i have travelled to some of the greatest places around the world, fucked tons of women that were super dream women to me and i think i have been doing pretty well in all aspects of life for my age.

I have been on this money shit since i was 8 or 9, so yeah i think the younger you become focused in money and the younger you start investing, the more you will be likely to succeed. I see it this way, because the younger you are and the more mistakes you make in business (its highly likely that you will lose money as well as make money in whatever business you into), the more you will learn and the more successful you will probably be in the long term. But i dont think working is that bad if you have the right job. There is this cat on this forum that works for a petroleum company, where you work one month offshore and the other month you stay at home, i think that it is a very good type of job if you are looking at travelling around the world and having good consistent income.

So education is good in that way, where you get a degree and then a company worth billions of dollars pay you more than 60 thousand dollars a year to work for them and if you can combine both making good money and having free time is the perfect shit. (i also cant see myself, working for a corporate job years and years and have one month per year to travel around)

Overall i prefer focus in money then focus in women..i had so many girls that i thought after fucking them it would change my life, but when i did fuck them, i just thought..oh its just one more..

To the young cats, go to university, graduate, travel around if you can while you still young (you have those loans), invest in business if you can..by the time you are 30, your life needs to be sorted.

Cant be 30 and have less than 50 thousand cash in the bank.

[oldnemesis]

(05-26-2011 11:15 PM)Hokie30 Wrote:  

Wow, all the suckers in this forum are praising G Manifesto as if he was a prophet. The funny thing is that G Manifesto's guide for "getting more out of life" can only be used by about 1% of the single male population

You probably missed his first post in this thread. He stated that he had minimum money when he was young - probably not too different from you. He made himself, and so can you.

But even if he was born wealthy, what difference it makes? There is no a single one universal game guide which would work for everyone. Every guide has its audience, and from what I said, this one doesn't work for you.

Quote:

If one has an average $21/hour job (which most middle class American's do in this recession) then custom suits, gucci loafers, overseas travel, uncomplicated logistics and swooping models at expensive lounges is not gonna be feasible!

Here we have the whole Bay Area full of immigrants from poor countries, all speaking English as second language, and often paying dear for their education (especially in places like India) routinely making over 100K a year. You were born in the richest country in the world, and had handicap over probably 90% of the world population. And you cannot compete with them?

And note that you're looking for excuses, not solutions. Indeed suits and Gucci loafers aren't cheap, but they last long, and you do not need hundreds of them. Consider it initial investment. Actually a good thing of having a few expensive custom suits is that they force you to stay in shape - you don't want to lose those 6K you spent on them. Overseas travel? Find a job which requires travel. Not only it usually pays more, but you also collect miles/perks (and can travel for free at vacation), and your expenses are covered. If you really want it, you can get it. Or you can whine about it. Your choice.