[Davarian]

Apologies for posting here guys. Tried to start a new thread but the site wouldn’t let me!

Went to the dentist today. Dental hygienist was ridiculously cute, couldn’t exactly have too much of a conversation with her examining my mouth but had some banter when able.

Question, she gave me her business card at the end (something I think she gives all patients) so I know her last name, is it appropriate/successful to add her then start a Facebook chat?

I don’t really have a reason to see her again until my next appointment in 6 months so can’t think of many other options.

Any thoughts welcome

[ksbms]

(09-08-2018 03:27 AM)Davarian Wrote:  

Apologies for posting here guys. Tried to start a new thread but the site wouldn’t let me!

Went to the dentist today. Dental hygienist was ridiculously cute, couldn’t exactly have too much of a conversation with her examining my mouth but had some banter when able.

Question, she gave me her business card at the end (something I think she gives all patients) so I know her last name, is it appropriate/successful to add her then start a Facebook chat?

I don’t really have a reason to see her again until my next appointment in 6 months so can’t think of many other options.

Any thoughts welcome

The key problem is, it's a client - customer relation and she wouldn't (if she cares about her job) risk messing her career for some patient. If you really wanted to pursue her probably it was best to tell her you were changing the dental practice to "closer to your home", then take a stab at suggesting going for a drink some day.

[Dulceácido]

(09-08-2018 03:27 AM)Davarian Wrote:  

Apologies for posting here guys. Tried to start a new thread but the site wouldn’t let me!

You have no idea how incredibly happy this makes me... Oh, glorious, glorious joy! Praise be to all that is sacred.

(Nothing personal, Davarian. Just happy to see the new standards in action. In answer to your question, ksbms's plan is not bad)

[Rang off the Pipe]

Ok, here's an exchange I'm having online with a 20-year old student (so can't legally go to a bar). I generally keep my interactions short with a little banter before trying to get the girl out for a meetup. She averaged 15 minutes per response and I took at least twice as long to respond to her except otherwise noted.

<My opener>

Girl: Riverside walk definitely

Me: Now what if it were in one of the nicest neighborhoods

Girl: What neighborhood lol

Me: XXXXX , so much safer than the area around XXXXX school

Girl: Haha oh okay, what's wrong with the riverside

Me: The riverside is in the neighborhood

Girl: *laughing smileys* oh okay

Me: Let's do ice cream and a riverside walk next weekend

<8 hour gap>

Girl: Lol I can't say no to that
Girl: But I might not be around next weekend depending on certain plans



Thoughts? I don't want to look desperate/needy in trying to get this girl out but I'm in no rush to respond to this.

[ksbms]

(09-10-2018 05:41 AM)Rang off the Pipe Wrote:  

Ok, here's an exchange I'm having online with a 20-year old student (so can't legally go to a bar). I generally keep my interactions short with a little banter before trying to get the girl out for a meetup. She averaged 15 minutes per response and I took at least twice as long to respond to her except otherwise noted.

<My opener>

Girl: Riverside walk definitely

Me: Now what if it were in one of the nicest neighborhoods

Girl: What neighborhood lol

Me: XXXXX , so much safer than the area around XXXXX school

Girl: Haha oh okay, what's wrong with the riverside

Me: The riverside is in the neighborhood

Girl: *laughing smileys* oh okay

Me: Let's do ice cream and a riverside walk next weekend

<8 hour gap>

Girl: Lol I can't say no to that
Girl: But I might not be around next weekend depending on certain plans



Thoughts? I don't want to look desperate/needy in trying to get this girl out but I'm in no rush to respond to this.

A few mistakes here. An ice cream date and a riverside walk is too vanilla, she's 20, she's craving red hot chilli pepper(s) but the damage is done (you could've suggested smoking a joint and downing a couple beers chasing birds and shooting naughty squirrels). And that's what I would do - repair your damage, show her you're "an outlaw". She's trying to put you in a holding pattern, don't fall for that - no "OK", "sure, message me after the weekend" or asking about her plans.

Also, she's a student... if she lives on a campus there are many dicks being swung at her. It wasn't any use to engage in rational chat with her about the riverside - boring (to her). The 8 hours pause suggests she's been weighing options for the prime dick. She's hedging bets, thus elusive answer "depending on certain plans" indicates that you aren't the top dog (right now) on her chart. I'd do go with high risk, high reward strategy by vacuuming but you may not hear from her again - paradoxically, the IDGF attitude may be a winner but it doesn't seem very likely in this scenario.

For example:

Girl: But I might not be around next weekend depending on certain plans
Überultrasuperalpha: cool Ill have a joint, down a beer, and shoot some squirrels

Don't moan, don't invite her, show a care free attitude and roll off, vacuum for a week, don't chase, if you don't hear back when the weekend is over, text her back to re-ignite, if not keen then, move on. Don't dish out attention for free. It's just some broad you've never met in your life.

Re-ignition after girls' silence could be a picture (I assume you're on whatsapp with her) related to what you were up to, something hinting at adventure.

[Rang off the Pipe]

It's actually Tinder (so no photos) but I like the kind of response you suggested. I'll leave a follow-up here.

[Rang off the Pipe]

So here's how I responded:

Me: Cool, I'll be sitting by the river, drinking XXXX alcoholic drink, and admiring XXXX skyline views

<an hour later>

Girl: Lol that's awesome


I may have a shot for this weekend but I'm just going to take the chill Giovonny approach and go silent for a bit to not force anything. There are plenty other girls I can meet IRL or even try to get out if online.

[Dulceácido]

I think it was clearly explained to you that you made some initial errors and it was too late for the "Giovonny approach" rally. You should've done that to begin with (why it's called an approach), but you didn't, and mistakes were made. You, at least, sensed that and asked for help. Advice was offered and you went your own route, which is fine, but...

I'll be shocked if you can pull this off after doubling down on mistakes. You asked for advice then ignored it and went with something worse. Not sure why you did that, but you did.

Live and learn from your mistakes. Move on after you see how this pans out because my prediction is not so good for you at this point.

[Rang off the Pipe]

I misunderstood his post then, because I thought he suggested responding in the manner that I did. Either way, the fact that we're having to scrutinize every little thing like this shows how far things have gone. On to the next prospects.

[Dulceácido]

(09-11-2018 07:05 PM)Rang off the Pipe Wrote:  

I misunderstood his post then, because I thought he suggested responding in the manner that I did. Either way, the fact that we're having to scrutinize every little thing like this shows how far things have gone. On to the next prospects.

Pfft. Don't let me take the wind out of your sails. If you're still in the game, stay with it, Bud. Let's see what happens.

[PapayaTapper]

(09-08-2018 03:27 AM)Davarian Wrote:  

Apologies for posting here guys. Tried to start a new thread but the site wouldn’t let me!

Went to the dentist today. Dental hygienist was ridiculously cute, couldn’t exactly have too much of a conversation with her examining my mouth but had some banter when able.

Question, she gave me her business card at the end (something I think she gives all patients) so I know her last name, is it appropriate/successful to add her then start a Facebook chat?

I don’t really have a reason to see her again until my next appointment in 6 months so can’t think of many other options.

Any thoughts welcome

Thats not a business card. Its called an appointment card


The bad news is that your post tells us exactly how far off from your goal of banging hot dental hygienists you are. Step away from the Facebook before you go right past friend zone and directly to creepy stalker zone

The good news is your here asking questions



Your time is best spent reading as many of the game threads as possible. Also do yourself a favor and buy this book You will benefit bigly

[Roswell87]

Dm a girl on insta 2 months back, ask her out like 3 times within that time span with no success of a first date. I text her today about her fitness and body goals to see if I can get a last attempt date out of her. I told her about a park, I jog at weekly and she caught the hook from there on. In her word, she wanted a jogging partner so badly so maybe she wants me to become her partner. I plan to jog with her at the park this Friday. I am trying finding a way to get the first date bang or escalate as much as possible. I am driving my mom car to the park. My plan is jog and exercise with her first, when finished doing our exercises then make an excuse to lead her back to my car for a cool off or a water drinking session and escalate from there in the car. I will definitely park my car in a private or secluded location to lower her ASD. Can’t bring her home because I live with my mom. Will very much appreciate it if anyone can give me some opinions on this idea of mine.

[ksbms]

(09-16-2018 03:24 PM)Roswell87 Wrote:  

Dm a girl on insta 2 months back, ask her out like 3 times within that time span with no success of a first date. I text her today about her fitness and body goals to see if I can get a last attempt date out of her. I told her about a park, I jog at weekly and she caught the hook from there on. In her word, she wanted a jogging partner so badly so maybe she wants me to become her partner. I plan to jog with her at the park this Friday. I am trying finding a way to get the first date bang or escalate as much as possible. I am driving my mom car to the park. My plan is jog and exercise with her first, when finished doing our exercises then make an excuse to lead her back to my car for a cool off or a water drinking session and escalate from there in the car. I will definitely park my car in a private or secluded location to lower her ASD. Can’t bring her home because I live with my mom. Will very much appreciate it if anyone can give me some opinions on this idea of mine.

So she wants to jog and you want to bang? You definitely are on the same page.

Don't you see these are mutually exclusive goals? Or, in gamesmen parlance - it's a snake seduction, no more no less than, I guess that's where it derived from, "a snake oil salesman's tactic". That's why some guys are labelled as creepy when they get a girl confused about his true intentions.

Gamesman's way of playing the field is to pitch a date for a date's sake, not "I'll gladly shoe-shine your shoes" with a desperate hope to convert it into a romantic fling. The idea it is a date is in your heads only, not to mention you already tried 3x times and she declined. Anyway, give it a try and report back what happened. My bet is she won't turn up in a park.

By the way, looks like incorrect choice of a thread, this for texting only.

[Jefferson]

A bit puzzled with this situation. One of my long time plates sent me 14 pictures on Messenger and about as many messages telling me what she was up to. Everything was pretty good. We're currently in different countries (we met in real life and fucked many times). I'd just got up and tried to call her. No reply. Thirty minutes later she texts saying sorry she just took a shower. We had a (very) brief convo and I jokingly complained to her that she hadn't sent any text updates for 90 minutes, if she was maybe on a date with someone during that time.

She didn't see the funny side and in a huff told me 'Goodnight enjoy your day', to end the conversation. I then called her. She would not pick up. She then called me later that night. I didn't realize it, but saw her follow up text messages. I was so pissed with her that she ignored my calls, that I ignored everything. In response she unfriended me on facebook and Insta, which does all the time when we have a fight and then adds me again, and told me not to reply.

Now the sex is great and I don't want to next her. But equally her not answering my phone calls is a major issue for me. What would you do?

[Baphomet]

(09-17-2018 11:39 AM)Jefferson Wrote:  

< Girl Drama Snipped >

Now the sex is great and I don't want to next her. But equally her not answering my phone calls is a major issue for me. What would you do?

I wouldn't call her.

But if her not answering a call is your only problem here, you've got other problems here. Allowing yourself to become wrapped up in such drama with a mere plate is utterly senseless.

[Jefferson]

I don't plan on calling her. I suspect she will text me and call me. I had made it clear several times that not taking a call from me is a serious red flag to me, after she'd done it before two or three times.

The drama is par for the course with this one. She escalates everything all the time. I think now I have to go no contact until she texts apologetically. If she does she can stay. If not I may have to bite the bullet.

[Baphomet]

(09-17-2018 01:44 PM)Jefferson Wrote:  

I don't plan on calling her. I suspect she will text me and call me. I had made it clear several times that not taking a call from me is a serious red flag to me, after she'd done it before two or three times.

The drama is par for the course with this one. She escalates everything all the time. I think now I have to go no contact until she texts apologetically. If she does she can stay. If not I may have to bite the bullet.

Your thinking on this is literally 180 degrees out of phase. Good luck though!

[Jefferson]

What do you mean "out of phase"?

[Mizo1234]

(09-17-2018 11:39 AM)Jefferson Wrote:  

A bit puzzled with this situation. One of my long time plates sent me 14 pictures on Messenger and about as many messages telling me what she was up to. Everything was pretty good. We're currently in different countries (we met in real life and fucked many times). I'd just got up and tried to call her. No reply. Thirty minutes later she texts saying sorry she just took a shower. We had a (very) brief convo and I jokingly complained to her that she hadn't sent any text updates for 90 minutes, if she was maybe on a date with someone during that time.

She didn't see the funny side and in a huff told me 'Goodnight enjoy your day', to end the conversation. I then called her. She would not pick up. She then called me later that night. I didn't realize it, but saw her follow up text messages. I was so pissed with her that she ignored my calls, that I ignored everything. In response she unfriended me on facebook and Insta, which does all the time when we have a fight and then adds me again, and told me not to reply.

Now the sex is great and I don't want to next her. But equally her not answering my phone calls is a major issue for me. What would you do?

Honestly, I do not know what should be your next step.
But Mistake # 1 : Joking about she was in a date means you care too much. Jokes have truth in it.

Mistake #2 :She acted mad and ended the conversation in a rude way. You shouldn't have called her

[Trent W.]

(09-17-2018 11:39 AM)Jefferson Wrote:  

A bit puzzled with this situation. One of my long time plates sent me 14 pictures on Messenger and about as many messages telling me what she was up to. Everything was pretty good. We're currently in different countries (we met in real life and fucked many times). I'd just got up and tried to call her. No reply. Thirty minutes later she texts saying sorry she just took a shower. We had a (very) brief convo and I jokingly complained to her that she hadn't sent any text updates for 90 minutes, if she was maybe on a date with someone during that time.

She didn't see the funny side and in a huff told me 'Goodnight enjoy your day', to end the conversation. I then called her. She would not pick up. She then called me later that night. I didn't realize it, but saw her follow up text messages. I was so pissed with her that she ignored my calls, that I ignored everything. In response she unfriended me on facebook and Insta, which does all the time when we have a fight and then adds me again, and told me not to reply.

Now the sex is great and I don't want to next her. But equally her not answering my phone calls is a major issue for me. What would you do?

I have to agree this sounds like a lot of drama for someone who you only consider to be a plate. To me it seems you care a bit more than that. Nothing wrong with it as long as you aknowledge it, if it is indeed true. Once you sort it out you will know how to handle her not being 100% available all the time.

[ksbms]

(09-17-2018 11:39 AM)Jefferson Wrote:  

A bit puzzled with this situation. One of my long time plates sent me 14 pictures on Messenger and about as many messages telling me what she was up to. Everything was pretty good. We're currently in different countries (we met in real life and fucked many times). I'd just got up and tried to call her. No reply. Thirty minutes later she texts saying sorry she just took a shower. We had a (very) brief convo and I jokingly complained to her that she hadn't sent any text updates for 90 minutes, if she was maybe on a date with someone during that time.

She didn't see the funny side and in a huff told me 'Goodnight enjoy your day', to end the conversation. I then called her. She would not pick up. She then called me later that night. I didn't realize it, but saw her follow up text messages. I was so pissed with her that she ignored my calls, that I ignored everything. In response she unfriended me on facebook and Insta, which does all the time when we have a fight and then adds me again, and told me not to reply.

Now the sex is great and I don't want to next her. But equally her not answering my phone calls is a major issue for me. What would you do?

Nothing unusual here. The ugly truth is, she's tormented because there is another guy. There always is, when they act like that. Time to move on, I guess. The good thing is you can meet better girls.

[Jefferson]

(09-17-2018 03:56 PM)Mizo1234 Wrote:  

(09-17-2018 11:39 AM)Jefferson Wrote:  

A bit puzzled with this situation. One of my long time plates sent me 14 pictures on Messenger and about as many messages telling me what she was up to. Everything was pretty good. We're currently in different countries (we met in real life and fucked many times). I'd just got up and tried to call her. No reply. Thirty minutes later she texts saying sorry she just took a shower. We had a (very) brief convo and I jokingly complained to her that she hadn't sent any text updates for 90 minutes, if she was maybe on a date with someone during that time.

She didn't see the funny side and in a huff told me 'Goodnight enjoy your day', to end the conversation. I then called her. She would not pick up. She then called me later that night. I didn't realize it, but saw her follow up text messages. I was so pissed with her that she ignored my calls, that I ignored everything. In response she unfriended me on facebook and Insta, which does all the time when we have a fight and then adds me again, and told me not to reply.

Now the sex is great and I don't want to next her. But equally her not answering my phone calls is a major issue for me. What would you do?

Honestly, I do not know what should be your next step.
But Mistake # 1 : Joking about she was in a date means you care too much. Jokes have truth in it.

Mistake #2 :She acted mad and ended the conversation in a rude way. You shouldn't have called her

You are right on both counts, brother.

[Mizo1234]

Guys, Nothing is specific here. In general when you invite her out and she declines and replies with something " I'd love to go, but......... " . She doesn't give counter offer . What do you guys do ?
1- Reply back with another date and time
2- No reply
3- Reply with "Lame" .

[Jefferson]

(09-17-2018 04:10 PM)Trent W. Wrote:  

I have to agree this sounds like a lot of drama for someone who you only consider to be a plate. To me it seems you care a bit more than that. Nothing wrong with it as long as you aknowledge it, if it is indeed true. Once you sort it out you will know how to handle her not being 100% available all the time.

You probably have a point about caring. It's not that she's not available all the time though, she is very available most of the time. However, she is extremely willful, very jealous of her freedom and prone to overreact so on two or three occasions she refused to take a phone call from me. I then immediately made clear that it is unacceptable and for a long time she has not done this. However, this has now started again. Her refusing to take a phone call is my Achilles heel, and I fear there is no way to fix this.

[Trent W.]

(09-17-2018 04:37 PM)Mizo1234 Wrote:  

Guys, Nothing is specific here. In general when you invite her out and she declines and replies with something " I'd love to go, but......... " . She doesn't give counter offer . What do you guys do ?
1- Reply back with another date and time
2- No reply
3- Reply with "Lame" .

I would take option #2 and re-initiate days later while working other leads.