[TheBadGuy]

(10-15-2018 07:10 AM)ksbms Wrote:  

(09-23-2018 07:16 PM)TheBadGuy Wrote:  

Here is a recent text convo I had. It is a chick I went out with once (Thursday), had a nice time - got a kiss but no sex. She texted me once she got home without me prompting and then again the next day without me prompting. We made plans for Sunday afternoon. Morning of, she texted me this... thoughts? Should I follow up and if so, with what?

Her: Hey, ****. I seriously have so much homework to do and I have to study for exams coming up.
Her: Can we plan for another day this week? I really wanted to spend some time with you sooo bad, but i can't today. Can I make it up to you?
(30 mins later)
Me: Alright no worries, -10 points though
(30 mins later)
Her: Okay. Thank you for understanding.
Her: Oh no :/

I think the Oh no was response to the -10 points. I did not respond to that last text. What should I say or should I not respond at all? Very attracted to this chick so trying to play it cool, but would very much like to see her again.

Thanks!

You aren't her priority (yet). You seem to have a girl in a decent to solid Maybe category. People's priorities change and she gave you reasonable (by young girls' standards) heads up. She counter-offered, instead you're trying too-hard not to be too concerned, yet you come across butt-hurt (the 'Alright, no worries'). Bad messaging game.

When she replied "[...] Can I make it up to you?", you should've vacuumed for much longer than 30 minutes (you're too eager), and contact her in the evening, or let her chase you (unlikely at that stage, though). Keep the ball in the air, then, and send a date request in a couple days. Draw her emotionally in.

The -10 points weren't appropriate here, they don't come across playfully. Instead, it spiralled off to an awkward 'On no :/' that stalls the conversation and your fretting about it shows you're way too invested. Pull back. Disregard it, and stack forward, don't even re-address the last few exchanges. Keep it light and positive. Ping her a window on your world, doing something interesting and DHV-ing, e.g.: "I'm eating the best steak in town with my friends (you can ping the photo too). What are you doing?" Just keep her engaged so the momentum never stalls.

Thank you for this honest feedback! Certainly text game is not my strongest suite. Luckily, I had basically done what you recommended and pulled back hard on her. I have made it known I am very busy (without saying so) and have been doing many things with friends (which is actually true). Meeting up with her again (Day3) tonight. Again, much appreciated!


Also, how would you have responded specifically to the "Can I make it up to you?" and what would you have said instead of "Alright, no worries". Just trying to tighten up my text game for the future.

[pancakemouse]

How to disqualify yourself from my dick in one message, a woman's guide:



(I'm in blue, she's in white)

[JonVonstroke]

(10-16-2018 12:36 PM)corsega Wrote:  

How to disqualify yourself from my dick in one message, a woman's guide:



(I'm in blue, she's in white)

Could you provide some context? Where and how you met this girl, her rating, and so forth.

[Sender]

Is there a thread with answers to the "What are you here for?" question on dating apps. I tried search but probably not using the right terms.

I've got a bumble women to agree to a date but she then asked:

Girl: Can I ask some questions before we meet?
Sender: sure whats up?
Girl: What are you after? Do you have kids?

This is an older women (34 years) but slim and looks relatively good in pics. A 6 I'd rate. Pretty decent personality and sense of humour.

I think I need to give a more serious answer as anything too joky won't go down in this context.

[kaotic]

(10-16-2018 04:05 PM)Sender Wrote:  

Is there a thread with answers to the "What are you here for?" question on dating apps. I tried search but probably not using the right terms.

I've got a bumble women to agree to a date but she then asked:

Girl: Can I ask some questions before we meet?
Sender: sure whats up?
Girl: What are you after? Do you have kids?

This is an older women (34 years) but slim and looks relatively good in pics. A 6 I'd rate. Pretty decent personality and sense of humour.

I think I need to give a more serious answer as anything too joky won't go down in this context.

First off, don't go after older girls man, go younger.

This woman is trying to lock down a specific demographic just by those first two questions.

For the kids:
"Nope, no kids, that I know of, haha!"

For the what are you after:

"Nothing, I have zero expectations until I meet someone and see how we vibe in person, then take it from there."

You get the gist, be somewhat serious, but be keep it light and funny.

Don't ever let it get too serious. Tell them you can understand someone alot more in person.

Tell her if she's interested to know more she can meet up face to face for a drink and get to know you.

Number close her, proceed like usual.

[JonVonstroke]

(10-16-2018 04:05 PM)Sender Wrote:  

Is there a thread with answers to the "What are you here for?" question on dating apps. I tried search but probably not using the right terms.

I've got a bumble women to agree to a date but she then asked:

Girl: Can I ask some questions before we meet?
Sender: sure whats up?
Girl: What are you after? Do you have kids?

This is an older women (34 years) but slim and looks relatively good in pics. A 6 I'd rate. Pretty decent personality and sense of humour.

I think I need to give a more serious answer as anything too joky won't go down in this context.

If she's a 6 there's no need to be tentative. And if you haven't met her in person yet I'd say it's a little to premature to be assuming she's any different than most other 34 year old women who are 6s. Game her as usual.

Response: Same reason everyone else is on here for. Validation.

She'll more than likely laugh at your response or maybe even give you an eye roll. Your next response can be a more serious one, but there's no need to get yourself entangled in these shit testing/disqualifying kind of conversations . I would refrain from divulging too much on the app and instead push to get her out on a date.

[Sender]

(10-16-2018 04:24 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(10-16-2018 04:05 PM)Sender Wrote:  

Is there a thread with answers to the "What are you here for?" question on dating apps. I tried search but probably not using the right terms.

I've got a bumble women to agree to a date but she then asked:

Girl: Can I ask some questions before we meet?
Sender: sure whats up?
Girl: What are you after? Do you have kids?

This is an older women (34 years) but slim and looks relatively good in pics. A 6 I'd rate. Pretty decent personality and sense of humour.

I think I need to give a more serious answer as anything too joky won't go down in this context.

First off, don't go after older girls man, go younger.

This woman is trying to lock down a specific demographic just by those first two questions.

For the kids:
"Nope, no kids, that I know of, haha!"

For the what are you after:

"Nothing, I have zero expectations until I meet someone and see how we vibe in person, then take it from there."

You get the gist, be somewhat serious, but be keep it light and funny.

Don't ever let it get too serious. Tell them you can understand someone alot more in person.

Tell her if she's interested to know more she can meet up face to face for a drink and get to know you.

Number close her, proceed like usual.

OK, sounds like a plan. Cheers, man.

Younger would be good, agreed! I'm not deliberately targetting older but working with what I can get with my current profile. I'm in the process of making improvements to my profile -- and pretty much every other aspect of my game and life. RVF is a great resource.

[ksbms]

(10-16-2018 12:32 PM)TheBadGuy Wrote:  

Also, how would you have responded specifically to the "Can I make it up to you?" and what would you have said instead of "Alright, no worries". Just trying to tighten up my text game for the future.

Depending what happened on a date, you didn't provide specifics. I assume you at least kissed her, thus there's space for a double entendre/innuendo. Always drive towards the pound town - light, playful, and spicy.

Her: Hey, ****. I seriously have so much homework to do and I have to study for exams coming up.

Her: Can we plan for another day this week? I really wanted to spend some time with you sooo bad, but i can't today. Can I make it up to you?

(A few hours later)
SuperÜberAwesomeAlphaStud: I'm a bit stiff... can you give a good rub?

(seconds later, just as she blue ticked)
SuperÜberAwesomeAlphaStud: *back rub, that is

If she'd happily acknowledge, you'd both covertly agreed to having sex next time

[Sender]

(10-16-2018 04:33 PM)Sender Wrote:  

(10-16-2018 04:24 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(10-16-2018 04:05 PM)Sender Wrote:  

Is there a thread with answers to the "What are you here for?" question on dating apps. I tried search but probably not using the right terms.

I've got a bumble women to agree to a date but she then asked:

Girl: Can I ask some questions before we meet?
Sender: sure whats up?
Girl: What are you after? Do you have kids?

This is an older women (34 years) but slim and looks relatively good in pics. A 6 I'd rate. Pretty decent personality and sense of humour.

I think I need to give a more serious answer as anything too joky won't go down in this context.

First off, don't go after older girls man, go younger.

This woman is trying to lock down a specific demographic just by those first two questions.

For the kids:
"Nope, no kids, that I know of, haha!"

For the what are you after:

"Nothing, I have zero expectations until I meet someone and see how we vibe in person, then take it from there."

You get the gist, be somewhat serious, but be keep it light and funny.

Don't ever let it get too serious. Tell them you can understand someone alot more in person.

Tell her if she's interested to know more she can meet up face to face for a drink and get to know you.

Number close her, proceed like usual.

OK, sounds like a plan. Cheers, man.

Younger would be good, agreed! I'm not deliberately targetting older but working with what I can get with my current profile. I'm in the process of making improvements to my profile -- and pretty much every other aspect of my game and life. RVF is a great resource.

After taking on board the advice here, I adapted it to my own style. So to update on this:

Girl: Can I ask some questions before we meet?
Sender: sure whats up?
Girl: What are you after? Do you have kids?
Sender: No Kids. How about you?
Girl: None but I am after a relationship not dating for the sake of it
Sender: I'm open to all possibilities but I won't sign a contract until I've met someone
Girl: Lol, sure

To breakdown in boring detail for anyone that may benefit:

I simply ignored her first question and answered the second ("do you have kids?") since I initially suspected she might have kids. Which is something I wanted to know and would have put her on the backfoot if she did.

I was wrong, she didn't. She pushed again with the relationship question so I framed it that she wanted me to sign a 'relationship contract' before meeting. Seems likes a reasonable line, may try it again in the future.

[ksbms]

(10-16-2018 12:36 PM)corsega Wrote:  

How to disqualify yourself from my dick in one message, a woman's guide:



(I'm in blue, she's in white)

Her last message is harsh, she's trying to steal the frame big time, you need to push your frame all out on her in your next reply. Notice she insinuates you're "bribing" her and it's your role to "impress" her. What. A. Cunt. She loves to play mental games, probably a middle manager in some corporation? You need to show her her place ASAP.

One way would be to disengage and vacuum and just replying with "thumb up" emoticon, showing you're not affected one bit by her hissy attitude. But it doesn't look "strong". Still, a poor man's push. Then vacuum and see what she does.

The other is to ridicule her games by absurd level of agree and amplify, thus amusing yourself with nuclear self-disqualification, e.g.: "I make an excellent Gollum impression. Scare away all the kids in the playground, ha." Personally, I think I'd roll with it.

Yet another one is to show her it's a man talking to a woman and you won't entertain temper tantrums by redirecting to another topic, thus avoiding to qualify yourself, e.g.: "Do you think Mets will win this season?" It sounds innocuous but she'll be livid for you not playing by her script and indirectly show you've got other girls to play with.

[Funkbus40]

Obvious shit test and an attempt to steal frame. I have tried to cross reference this type of text she sent to many others here.

I know I need to send a text back that is either aloof or keeps frame. Any advice?

Back ground, we went on a date Monday night and ended just short of a bang only because I had to take a train.

[kaotic]

(10-17-2018 04:42 AM)ksbms Wrote:  

(10-16-2018 12:36 PM)corsega Wrote:  

How to disqualify yourself from my dick in one message, a woman's guide:



(I'm in blue, she's in white)

Her last message is harsh, she's trying to steal the frame big time, you need to push your frame all out on her in your next reply. Notice she insinuates you're "bribing" her and it's your role to "impress" her. What. A. Cunt. She loves to play mental games, probably a middle manager in some corporation? You need to show her her place ASAP.

One way would be to disengage and vacuum and just replying with "thumb up" emoticon, showing you're not affected one bit by her hissy attitude. But it doesn't look "strong". Still, a poor man's push. Then vacuum and see what she does.

The other is to ridicule her games by absurd level of agree and amplify, thus amusing yourself with nuclear self-disqualification, e.g.: "I make an excellent Gollum impression. Scare away all the kids in the playground, ha." Personally, I think I'd roll with it.

Yet another one is to show her it's a man talking to a woman and you won't entertain temper tantrums by redirecting to another topic, thus avoiding to qualify yourself, e.g.: "Do you think Mets will win this season?" It sounds innocuous but she'll be livid for you not playing by her script and indirectly show you've got other girls to play with.

Here's the initial problem, he's texting her late at night, that's bad in my book.

I never text girls at night past 8 or 9, that's a hard rule, unless they're on my way to fuck me or if they wanna fuck.

I wouldn't even offer a "healthy protein meal" that comes off to try hard trying to play into her gym routine.

When she said "I guess it just depends"

That's where I would've been, "how about X date at Y place at Z time"

-She agrees
-Counters with another day
-Counters with other days as options
-Barely replies
-Doesn't reply at all

Your goal is to get her out ASAP - this is an easy way to weed out the lame ones (downgrade those) and interested ones (prioritize those).


A response would be, something along the lines of:

"fine I'll throw in dessert and some candles haha" the double down

"Honestly I'm a terrible texter and I don't like being on my phone when I'm out with friends or busy with work, it's rude"

"That's why I think we should meet up, how about X Y Z, you in ?"


This line of thinking you don't lose frame, you make her laugh, and she understands you're a busy dude.

Without having to go to extremes.

[pancakemouse]

(10-16-2018 02:12 PM)JonVonstroke Wrote:  

(10-16-2018 12:36 PM)corsega Wrote:  

How to disqualify yourself from my dick in one message, a woman's guide:



(I'm in blue, she's in white)

Could you provide some context? Where and how you met this girl, her rating, and so forth.

Tinder. She's 29, and she's a 6-foot tall introverted former pro beach volleyball player and current ridiculously ripped powerlifter. Lots of testosterone in this one.

(10-18-2018 11:25 AM)kaotic Wrote:  

(10-17-2018 04:42 AM)ksbms Wrote:  

(10-16-2018 12:36 PM)corsega Wrote:  

How to disqualify yourself from my dick in one message, a woman's guide:



(I'm in blue, she's in white)

Her last message is harsh, she's trying to steal the frame big time, you need to push your frame all out on her in your next reply. Notice she insinuates you're "bribing" her and it's your role to "impress" her. What. A. Cunt. She loves to play mental games, probably a middle manager in some corporation? You need to show her her place ASAP.

One way would be to disengage and vacuum and just replying with "thumb up" emoticon, showing you're not affected one bit by her hissy attitude. But it doesn't look "strong". Still, a poor man's push. Then vacuum and see what she does.

The other is to ridicule her games by absurd level of agree and amplify, thus amusing yourself with nuclear self-disqualification, e.g.: "I make an excellent Gollum impression. Scare away all the kids in the playground, ha." Personally, I think I'd roll with it.

Yet another one is to show her it's a man talking to a woman and you won't entertain temper tantrums by redirecting to another topic, thus avoiding to qualify yourself, e.g.: "Do you think Mets will win this season?" It sounds innocuous but she'll be livid for you not playing by her script and indirectly show you've got other girls to play with.

Here's the initial problem, he's texting her late at night, that's bad in my book.

I never text girls at night past 8 or 9, that's a hard rule, unless they're on my way to fuck me or if they wanna fuck.

I wouldn't even offer a "healthy protein meal" that comes off to try hard trying to play into her gym routine.

When she said "I guess it just depends"

That's where I would've been, "how about X date at Y place at Z time"

-She agrees
-Counters with another day
-Counters with other days as options
-Barely replies
-Doesn't reply at all

Your goal is to get her out ASAP - this is an easy way to weed out the lame ones (downgrade those) and interested ones (prioritize those).


A response would be, something along the lines of:

"fine I'll throw in dessert and some candles haha" the double down

"Honestly I'm a terrible texter and I don't like being on my phone when I'm out with friends or busy with work, it's rude"

"That's why I think we should meet up, how about X Y Z, you in ?"


This line of thinking you don't lose frame, you make her laugh, and she understands you're a busy dude.

Without having to go to extremes.

Thanks. I don't agree with the "don't text girls past 8 or 9". That's bizarre. In SF, most girls work until 7 and are still eating dinner at 9:30. They don't even have time to relax and text until 10. Same with me.

Also, girls are hornier later at night. You can sext (if you're into that shit) and get them fantasizing about you much easier.

I also don't agree with not offering food. Food is my go-to as I don't drink, I don't have any bars near my house, and usually athletic girls don't tend to like bars or drink (this is what I inferred based on her blueprint).

I like your text follow up suggestions.

I ended up just archiving this girl's texts. In a previous eta of my Game I would have tried to game this girl but with that level of bitch shield she's just not worth my time.

[kaotic]

Her being full of Test makes sense and why she's snappy with her text, definitely needs to be reeled in.

While she might not be settled till 10 it's obvious she sees you as trying to booty text her at 10pm, that's why she's giving you shade.

Here's my logic behind not texting late night and not replying when girls text you:

-You're busy you have shit you're doing
-Maybe she's got competition and you're on a date
-Maybe you're fucking another girl
-It keeps her guessing and on edge
-You aren't an emotional tampon if she wants to chat late night
-Lots of dudes are hitting her up late night, you think you're the only one? You'll stand out by not falling into that trap and hitting her up in the AM so you're on her mind all day.


So far it's worked really well to my advantage, even when girls seem "receptive" it sets the frame for you to play with the next day.

Keep in mind I text all my girls in waves (because it's easier and saves time) IE AM, Noon, pre Gym at 6 post gym around 7/8.

I'm not sexting a girl who I haven't fucked yet, it's high risk high reward, and she can get hyped and scare off last minute because she doesn't want to feel like a slut.

It works for some guys, just not for me, I only sext girls I've fucked at least once.

You don't drink so that's totally fair, I understand and respect that, food is a good play then. I've personally never used food as an invite to meet up or 0 date bang.

You'd be surprised how many female college athletes go out and party - especially with their girls at local bars (I frequent an area where they're always out week nights).

Now I'm not saying you're wrong in the slightest - I'm just giving my experience and what's worked for me.

If what you're doing works, then keep on doing it brother.


And you're right, sometimes a girls bitch shield is way too high and not worth it.

[Cavorite]

I just made an accidental text that worked well.

I meant to send "have you ever had a boyfriend" to a youngish college girl I've been after – but I sent it to one of the older women I used to bang. Then I sent "wrong person, lol, i know you have".

Then again, this only works if you want to re-bang an older woman you already know.

[InvoluntaryHermit]

(01-13-2017 09:17 AM)Turnus Wrote:  

Any suggested responses? Was thinking something along the lines of :

"Couple of hours will be more than enough time for me to lock you up in my basement" (In reference to a joke she made earlier about coming straight to my house and me holding her captive or being an axe murderer)

"Couple of hours? How long do you think an axe murderer needs?"

Just dealt with one of these thanks to yours and some other peoples guidance on here.

Told her I would come to her place on the date we set and she said she we could meet at the union on campus and walk over (obviously b/c of anxiety about giving her address, which is understandable). So I was like ya, that's fine! then she said she would really like to get drinks or coffee first because she doesn't know if I am an axe murderer or not (in response to me trying to no date bang her).

I tell her "Axe Murderer? That's way too messy." and she replies "poison then?" and I reply "I guess you'll have to wait and find out LOL So, Tuesday at 2?" and she replies "at the union, yes"

The ONLY little thing I am not sure is what I am gonna do if we meet at the union and she shit tests me and tries to get me to go have coffee with her first. Should I just be like nah and leave or what man IDK wtf I am gonna do if that happens. Just hoping we walk to her place like she initially wanted.

[torridon747]

It's probably not a shit test brotherman she might just want to get comfortable with you before she fucks you or invites you to her house. Remember sex feels like a vulnerable experience for women, with most of them you need to build at least a little comfort in person. Also inviting strangers is dicey.

Good call on the axe murderer comeback that was a shit test for sure. Agree and amplify is always a good tactic.

If she tries to get you to go for coffee she may be trying to steal frame, of course in her head she just wants to get more comfortable with you. What you do is whatever she suggests (unless its bouncing to her pad) unless you genuinely and seriously want to do that and can make it fun -suggest something else you can enjoy and lead.

So she says coffee you say "hmm, maybe later but lets walk to over to xyz to see the zyx" make a game out of seeing how far you can physically escalate. Don't scate her, be calibrated, pay attention to her moves as well. Her body.language will tell you if she doesn't like the way you're escalating.

Whatever you do, do not get butthurt if she doesn't invite you to her house right away. Don't protest. Its going to make you look uncalibrated and weird
Reframe, build comfort and push for it after your walk or coffee or disk golf or whatever. I get you want to fuck her and you're horny and all that and there's nothing wrong with that but you gotta act like the fun guy who fucks. Would that guy care if it takes another hour to bang this broad if you're having a good time and you already are getting laid. Probably not, and you shouldn't unless theres a time crunch

[griffinmill]

Chaps -

Mini-LTR I had earlier this year. She's a soft 8 and 13 years younger than me (which is why I'm even bothering to post this).

I'm in the UK and she's in Warsaw. She ended things because it was long distance and she was upset one weekend when I was due to fly out and then had to cancel.

She keeps creeping my IG since the break-up and has texted once or twice.

She hit me up today again on IG with "So... have you moved to Warsaw yet?"

How do I play this? Obviously I haven't, and while we dated I made insinuations that I might; which is what kept her hanging on for longer than she probably would have.

I'd love to see her again, but obviously don't want to play around with her emotions because she is quite a sensitive girl. Do I just bail? Be honest?

[ksbms]

(10-19-2018 11:54 AM)griffinmill Wrote:  

Chaps -

Mini-LTR I had earlier this year. She's a soft 8 and 13 years younger than me (which is why I'm even bothering to post this).

I'm in the UK and she's in Warsaw. She ended things because it was long distance and she was upset one weekend when I was due to fly out and then had to cancel.

She keeps creeping my IG since the break-up and has texted once or twice.

She hit me up today again on IG with "So... have you moved to Warsaw yet?"

How do I play this? Obviously I haven't, and while we dated I made insinuations that I might; which is what kept her hanging on for longer than she probably would have.

I'd love to see her again, but obviously don't want to play around with her emotions because she is quite a sensitive girl. Do I just bail? Be honest?

Make your mind up. If you did, you wouldn't post here, though, I reckon. Let her visit you, if you can't go to Warsaw? Have a romantic weekend in Spain together? Life is short, make it obvious you won't marry her but you both can enjoy experiences now and then. Pivot and become her shiny side dish long term, even if she gets a regular boyfriend.

- So... have you moved to Warsaw yet?
- I was just looking up flights to Malaga. Wanna go?

Poland's weather just turned dull, it's rainy and cold. UK just the same. Sun is good. Enjoy the great moments of sunshine, great food and making love!

[griffinmill]

(10-19-2018 12:45 PM)ksbms Wrote:  

(10-19-2018 11:54 AM)griffinmill Wrote:  

Chaps -

Mini-LTR I had earlier this year. She's a soft 8 and 13 years younger than me (which is why I'm even bothering to post this).

I'm in the UK and she's in Warsaw. She ended things because it was long distance and she was upset one weekend when I was due to fly out and then had to cancel.

She keeps creeping my IG since the break-up and has texted once or twice.

She hit me up today again on IG with "So... have you moved to Warsaw yet?"

How do I play this? Obviously I haven't, and while we dated I made insinuations that I might; which is what kept her hanging on for longer than she probably would have.

I'd love to see her again, but obviously don't want to play around with her emotions because she is quite a sensitive girl. Do I just bail? Be honest?

Make your mind up. If you did, you wouldn't post here, though, I reckon. Let her visit you, if you can't go to Warsaw? Have a romantic weekend in Spain together? Life is short, make it obvious you won't marry her but you both can enjoy experiences now and then. Pivot and become her shiny side dish long term, even if she gets a regular boyfriend.

- So... have you moved to Warsaw yet?
- I was just looking up flights to Malaga. Wanna go?

Poland's weather just turned dull, it's rainy and cold. UK just the same. Sun is good. Enjoy the great moments of sunshine, great food and making love!

Thank you! I'll give this a shot!

[Professor When]

Need some help on this one. Hit it off pretty well with this girl and got her number yesterday.


Her: Hey, I figured out how I'm going to fix my essay!

Me: cool, i'm heading for a party tonight, but let's do something fun tomorrow

Her: I can't tomorrow! I'm seeing someone now, as of last night. But I hope you have fun at the party



Basically, I think I want to say that "seeing someone" isn't a commitment, let's go out anyway. What's a good way to handle this?

[JonVonstroke]

(10-20-2018 05:50 PM)Professor When Wrote:  

Need some help on this one. Hit it off pretty well with this girl and got her number yesterday.


Her: Hey, I figured out how I'm going to fix my essay!

Me: cool, i'm heading for a party tonight, but let's do something fun tomorrow

Her: I can't tomorrow! I'm seeing someone now, as of last night. But I hope you have fun at the party



Basically, I think I want to say that "seeing someone" isn't a commitment, let's go out anyway. What's a good way to handle this?

Don't say that. It makes you look like a beggar. You put it out there already with the message that preceded the "I am seeing someone message" and she didn't take your offer.

The best thing to do is just brush it off and appear unbothered. Seeing as she literally just got hitched up with someone as of last night, after probably just giving you her number too, it's unlikely she'll be with that person for a very long time.

This is why having a stockpile of "leads" is paramount in today's climate. Hit up other chicks in the interim, but remain cordial with this one; she'll eventually seek you out once her relationship inevitably ends.

Here is an article I wrote for ROK a while back that may shed some light on your current predicament: https://www.returnofkings.com/190289/the...re-of-game

[Professor When]

(10-20-2018 06:16 PM)JonVonstroke Wrote:  

(10-20-2018 05:50 PM)Professor When Wrote:  

Need some help on this one. Hit it off pretty well with this girl and got her number yesterday.


Her: Hey, I figured out how I'm going to fix my essay!

Me: cool, i'm heading for a party tonight, but let's do something fun tomorrow

Her: I can't tomorrow! I'm seeing someone now, as of last night. But I hope you have fun at the party



Basically, I think I want to say that "seeing someone" isn't a commitment, let's go out anyway. What's a good way to handle this?

Don't say that. It makes you look like a beggar. You put it out there already with the message that preceded the "I am seeing someone message" and she didn't take your offer.

The best thing to do is just brush it off and appear unbothered. Seeing as she literally just got hitched up with someone as of last night, after probably just giving you her number too, it's unlikely she'll be with that person for a very long time.

This is why having a stockpile of "leads" is paramount in today's climate. Hit up other chicks in the interim, but remain cordial with this one; she'll eventually seek you out once her relationship inevitably ends.

Here is an article I wrote for ROK a while back that may shed some in regards to your current predicament: https://www.returnofkings.com/190289/the...re-of-game

Will read the article now, but what about he advice I see about just brushing it off and A&A? I was thinking something along the lines of:

I'm sure you two will have a happy life together with lots of kids. In the meantime, let's go apple picking tomorrow.

[JonVonstroke]

Up to you, but that's not my style personally. You could agree and amplify but I don't know how effective that would be in regards to this situation. You typically use AA to evade and counter shit-test.

Examples
GIRL: “Why didn’t you call last night? Are you dating someone else?”
YOU: “Yep, I’ve got a harem to service. Be happy you’re in the top tier.”

GIRL: “I think we should take this slower.”
YOU: “You read my mind! Can I pencil you in next month?”

This is a girl that is seemingly "sexually unavailable" at the moment. Does that mean you can't fuck her? No. I have fucked many girls that have had boyfriends/husbands in the past.

But the difference is 90% of those girls kept that hidden from me. If she was DTF she would not have messaged you that, and instead would have covertly entertained your offer.

There isn't a magical "phrase" that I have encountered yet that can make a woman go from sexually unavailable to sexually available. Remain on good terms with this one.

Talk to other bitches and keep demonstrating high value. Your lack of concern and mystery will pique her interest. If you can get her to see you with other chicks that's even better. Before you know it you'll be inside her - balls deep, without having wasted any time.

[Professor When]

Okay, thank you. Sometimes I just wonder if I give up too easily while trying to not appear desperate. I'll keep radio silence until I see her in class on Tuesday. How do you handle that? Do I just not engage with her or act like everything's exactly the same?