[crispytaco]

I'm sleepy and I can't get inspration:


Me: Okay, I might cook something for you one day
Her: Who knows?
Her: It is difficult to surprise me
Me: ?

[ksbms]

(07-23-2018 11:31 PM)crispytaco Wrote:  

I'm sleepy and I can't get inspration:


Me: Okay, I might cook something for you one day
Her: Who knows?
Her: It is difficult to surprise me
Me: ?

You haven't lost but you took her bait with your "?". It shows you care and rae keen to please, aka "I have no other prospects, thus will go to great lengths (read: cook) and chase you around the block to secure the bang". You've buffered off the neediness by writing "I might cook [...]", instead of "I will cook [...]" and a wink at the end but that's not enough - you need to give her a (playful) rub and see how she takes it. It's a subtle power play unfolding, methinks.

Reframe. (Gently) mock her. Show her you won't bite and play her game. I'd send that kind of pic and take it from there:

[crispytaco]

Oh thanks. I didn't put the "?". I haven't reply yet.

[Thrill Jackson]

Met a FINE "christian" white girl in a coffee shop yesterday. Was real chatty and we were from the same area but she has a weird Ned Flanders overly nice vibe to her. We chatted for about 29 minutes.When she was leaving and I asked for her she looked like she did just to be nice. I went with rooshs text routine and when I hit her with would you like to hang out some e she said (paraphrasing)Next time our crew is in XYZ (city where we reside)does something fun I'll let you know!"

Social circle plays a good presence in my area but I'm focused on making money and don't have much time to socialize. What's the best way to flip this text to let her now I'm all about the date/bang but not come off as a creep.

[Sam Malone]

What's a good response when a chick ghosts on you for a few days and then responds with what seems like a legitimate reason ?

For a little background (and I can provide more details), a chick I've been seeing/smashing on the regular for the last six months. Over the last couple of weeks, she's had a lot going on and couldn't meet up (kid stuff and work stuff).

Here's where I'll point out that, while she's a good girl to have around, pleasant, good company, and submissive in the bedroom, the ease in which I converted her to a notch has already disqualified her from being anything more than a very good fwb.

Last Friday I'd ran my standard setup texts for our usual Friday night meetup, but this time I wasn't asked when I was coming over to her place (like I usually am). At that point she ghosted on me, and a couple days later (Sunday night) I sent the following gif (and got no response):



Over the next few days, I'd posted some stories on one of my social media accounts, and sent her (and a handful of other contacts) some private pics as well. Still no response (this particular app has a setting where you can see when someone has opened your message), and the message sat unopened...

Until today.

She responded with a smiley face and the message "Sorry I haven't been around much, the ex has started semi stalking me and not leaving me alone again."

*I should note here that an older version of this app (that I use on my older phone) has a 'hack' where you can see the person's message without them knowing you've seen it. So as it stands now, as far as she's concerned, I haven't seen the "ex stalking" message.

My first thought was that the above is legitimate.. that there's better 'excuses' than the "stalking ex". Sick relative that's out of town, phone problems, out of the country (I/we live within an hour's drive of the Canadian border). All more believable reasons than what she gave. So I'm leaning toward legitimate.
Another part of me thinks she may have been testing her SMV over the last couple of weeks. Still another part thinks that maybe she and her ex tried to give it another go and failed miserably.

But I think I'm "too close to the elephant" to fashion a response that doesn't seem invading, bitter, or beta (?).

Any good response to potentially flush out more information without seeming like I'm trying to flush out more information ?

[torridon747]

Why do you care so much? She mentioned she ghosted because of an ex all because you kept double/triple/quadruple/etc texting here.

You don't need more info you need to take a hint. If you cought feelings on a girl you're "smashing" that's on you. Who's playing whos game here? Whos winning?

[Bucephalus]

(07-25-2018 11:35 PM)Sam Malone Wrote:  

She responded with a smiley face and the message "Sorry I haven't been around much, the ex has started semi stalking me and not leaving me alone again."

*I should note here that an older version of this app (that I use on my older phone) has a 'hack' where you can see the person's message without them knowing you've seen it. So as it stands now, as far as she's concerned, I haven't seen the "ex stalking" message.

My first thought was that the above is legitimate.. that there's better 'excuses' than the "stalking ex". Sick relative that's out of town, phone problems, out of the country (I/we live within an hour's drive of the Canadian border). All more believable reasons than what she gave. So I'm leaning toward legitimate.
Another part of me thinks she may have been testing her SMV over the last couple of weeks. Still another part thinks that maybe she and her ex tried to give it another go and failed miserably.

But I think I'm "too close to the elephant" to fashion a response that doesn't seem invading, bitter, or beta (?).

Any good response to potentially flush out more information without seeming like I'm trying to flush out more information ?

Personally I wouldn't worry about flushing out more information over text. There are a million possibilities for her lack of / delayed response, legitimate and illegitimate. I wouldn't read too much into the ex– thing, and pestering her about it will be perceived as, and is, insecure. At any rate, her only behavioural transgression was not to invite you over, and she apologised – I would consider that minor.

Obviously your FWB relationship so do as you see fit. But the ball is very much in your court. I would wait a week or two, check the text so that she sees you have, and make contact as you usually would. If she doesn't invite you but you want to see her, invite yourself over, nothing wrong with that.

If she becomes increasingly flakey with time and that's a boundary for you (ie. a waste of your time), you have the option to let her go and pay more attention to other plates.

[Thrill Jackson]

Bump. C'mon RVF brothers I need some help

[AneroidOcean]

(07-25-2018 05:30 PM)Thrill Jackson Wrote:  

Met a FINE "christian" white girl in a coffee shop yesterday. Was real chatty and we were from the same area but she has a weird Ned Flanders overly nice vibe to her. We chatted for about 29 minutes.When she was leaving and I asked for her she looked like she did just to be nice. I went with rooshs text routine and when I hit her with would you like to hang out some e she said (paraphrasing)Next time our crew is in XYZ (city where we reside)does something fun I'll let you know!"

Social circle plays a good presence in my area but I'm focused on making money and don't have much time to socialize. What's the best way to flip this text to let her now I'm all about the date/bang but not come off as a creep.

"No I'd rather take you out, I have enough friends."

Optional, add "Nice meeting you though"

She'll either drop it or show interest. If she's really truly trying to be a Christian girl. If she's not, then why even respond? She's probably just being nice either way frankly.

[bantersmyth]

Met a hb8 at the park this afternoon. Some homeless dude was harassing her and I told him to take a walk. We chatted for a bit before it started raining. She wanted me to go to a coffee shop with her, but I declined and took her number instead.

Me: Nice meeting you
Her: You too! You know it stopped raining about 2 minutes after you left
Me: Lucky you, it followed me half way home
Her: Oh no! That’s no good
A few hours later...
Her: Do you have IG? Or any social media?

Unsure how to respond.

[Remington]

(07-28-2018 11:45 PM)bantersmyth Wrote:  

Met a hb8 at the park this afternoon. Some homeless dude was harassing her and I told him to take a walk. We chatted for a bit before it started raining. She wanted me to go to a coffee shop with her, but I declined and took her number instead.

Me: Nice meeting you
Her: You too! You know it stopped raining about 2 minutes after you left
Me: Lucky you, it followed me half way home
Her: Oh no! That’s no good
A few hours later...
Her: Do you have IG? Or any social media?

Unsure how to respond.

I don't have social media. So, whenever I get that question, which is rarely, I usually go with:

"nah, the selfies and pictures of food arent really my thing"

Social media genuinely pisses me off. Bunch of political bullshit mixed with narcissism.

If you do have social media, get rid of it. It's a waste of time.


Edit: Unless you're a baller who has pictures with models on your arms or travel constantly, I'd stay away.

[ksbms]

(07-28-2018 11:45 PM)bantersmyth Wrote:  

Met a hb8 at the park this afternoon. Some homeless dude was harassing her and I told him to take a walk. We chatted for a bit before it started raining. She wanted me to go to a coffee shop with her, but I declined and took her number instead.

Me: Nice meeting you
Her: You too! You know it stopped raining about 2 minutes after you left
Me: Lucky you, it followed me half way home
Her: Oh no! That’s no good
A few hours later...
Her: Do you have IG? Or any social media?

Unsure how to respond.

The girl's question about Instagram is girls' vetting system if you fit her narrative. Skank Hunt has been pressing this view for quite a bit and I think I'm in agreement with him. However, it hasn't been properly understood, I think what purpose Instagram serves ( in female to male relation). It's a proxy for an evolutionary mating sorting algorithm. If your pictures suggest you are famous, rich and powerful, you're in. If your pictures are full of you eating pizza and playing video games, you're out. In other words, it's a female's lazy way of evaluating, from a distance, your reproductive value to her ovums.

In the past, a woman would have to doll up, take the means of transport and spend in a location(s) hours, vetting you as her sex/mating prospect. This would require time and a little bit of stress on her part. As a man, you had a shot to show to a female your knowledge, charisma, cultivated passions and cultured persona. Now, they go so lazy they want to evaluate you on the cheap like a slab of meat by scanning trivial pictures within a few minutes time from afar because hordes of other men are knocking on their online doors. To put it shortly, females in the modern, westernised society, are getting an ever increasing, upper hand in the mating dance. Soon, us, men, will get locked up in a proverbial cage hoping a female will gratuitously let herself be impressed with our monkey dance. I can dance, but as a couple and I am going to choose the tune to which we'd dance. Not so much with furtively producing over the top, larger than life social media pictures tweaking things up hours on end to have thousands of followers and all the time doing crazy things in various locations all over the world. Just to a secure a date with some tart.

However, the problem the way I see is if a girl asks for Instagram, she's, using Krauser's nomenclature, a weak-ish maybe. Your approach hasn't been strong enough to persuade her to see you again for who you are. The upside is it wasn't too bad, for in this case she wouldn't have replied and probed further down the line.

It's up to you how to respond. Personally, I have no Instagram and refuse to be evaluated and judged as a man as if I was a product to be bid for in an auction. Man's value is more than his looks. If a girl cares more about my social presence than taking the 'risk' of meeting me in person, and refuses to meet up without purveying my Instagram (or any other social media crap), so be it. I saved my time to do something more productive than entertaining a vacuous female.

[bantersmyth]

(07-29-2018 03:12 PM)Remington Wrote:  

(07-28-2018 11:45 PM)bantersmyth Wrote:  

Met a hb8 at the park this afternoon. Some homeless dude was harassing her and I told him to take a walk. We chatted for a bit before it started raining. She wanted me to go to a coffee shop with her, but I declined and took her number instead.

Me: Nice meeting you
Her: You too! You know it stopped raining about 2 minutes after you left
Me: Lucky you, it followed me half way home
Her: Oh no! That’s no good
A few hours later...
Her: Do you have IG? Or any social media?

Unsure how to respond.

I don't have social media. So, whenever I get that question, which is rarely, I usually go with:

"nah, the selfies and pictures of food arent really my thing"

Social media genuinely pisses me off. Bunch of political bullshit mixed with narcissism.

If you do have social media, get rid of it. It's a waste of time.


Edit: Unless you're a baller who has pictures with models on your arms or travel constantly, I'd stay away.

I don't have facebook, but i do have IG and twitter. My main issue with social media is how it commodifies people. Twitter I use to keep with sports (I have a burner twitter that I use for the manosphere). My IG is mainly pictures I've taken while traveling. As a general rule, I don't post pictures of myself or other people. Could I benefit from posting shirtless pics on the beach? Probably, but I just think that shit is corny.

Anyway.. here's how I handled the convo:

(Next morning)
Me: Doing some research?
Her: lmao I'm just nosy, I can't help it (shrug emoji) at least i'm honest!
Me: +1 point for honesty
Me: Let's grab a drink Thursday, you can bring a notepad - get all your questions answered.
Her: haha, yeah that works

Set up drinks from there...

[ndsamkw]

This is a bumble thread. We matched two days ago, I responded about 4-6 hours later

Her: Hey! Drink Saturday with a Canadian? X
Me: Yeah let's do it
Me: What is your Whatsapp number?

[Baphomet]

(08-03-2018 07:51 AM)ndsamkw Wrote:  

This is a bumble thread. We matched two days ago, I responded about 4-6 hours later

Her: Hey! Drink Saturday with a Canadian? X
Me: Yeah let's do it
Me: What is your Whatsapp number?

There is nothing more to say here. Move on to the next.

"Yeah, let's do it", was a poor response.

Something like:

"International relations are my specialty! First summit will be Wine Bar X at 8:00.." would have made for stronger positioning.

It plays directly on her "Canadian" comment and gives a definite plan of action.

[Merengues]

I went on 2 weeks holiday and left two leads in town, so some advice on how to nurture would be appreciated.

1. Italian, introverted, STEM profession, no FB and no IG (green flags). Met on 'language exchange'
31/07
Me: Ragazza, so Wednesday or Friday?
Her: I will return back from X (her hometown, a village in Italy) on Sunday
Me: Such a bad timing, I'm leaving for holidays on Saturday.
Her: ah!
Me: Send me some pics from x though.. I have to see if it is so beautiful as you said
Her: >>sends me 4 videos of her village and landscapes nearby<<
Me: >thump up<

2/08
Me: Waiting for an "update" (inside joke)
Her: >>sends me 4 videos of beaches, forests, some mountains, each video described)<<
3/08
Me: So detailed depiction. You must be awesome at your job (:
Me: >>Ping picture of a house in the mountains<<
Me: I imagined it something like this though.

No response so far, I realized my answer was overeager.

2. Northern African, Muslim but wears shorts and tops, foreign language teacher, quite cute. Met on expat meetup.

31/07
Me: Anyways, wanna meet up tomorrow or Friday? I'll show you Y and Z.
Her: I would love to,
Her: However, I'm working till noon then writing thesis till the evening.
Her: (
01/07
Me: First things first, see you after my holidays then (:
Her: Great!
Her: Enjoy ur holidays


I thought of sending them pics from my holidays on Thursday, capitalize on response and text them that I'm back in town after my holidays.
Feedback appreciated.

[ksbms]

(08-06-2018 06:43 AM)Merengues Wrote:  

I went on 2 weeks holiday and left two leads in town, so some advice on how to nurture would be appreciated.

1. Italian, introverted, STEM profession, no FB and no IG (green flags). Met on 'language exchange'
31/07
Me: Ragazza, so Wednesday or Friday?
Her: I will return back from X (her hometown, a village in Italy) on Sunday
Me: Such a bad timing, I'm leaving for holidays on Saturday.
Her: ah!
Me: Send me some pics from x though.. I have to see if it is so beautiful as you said
Her: >>sends me 4 videos of her village and landscapes nearby<<
Me: >thump up<

2/08
Me: Waiting for an "update" (inside joke)
Her: >>sends me 4 videos of beaches, forests, some mountains, each video described)<<
3/08
Me: So detailed depiction. You must be awesome at your job (:
Me: >>Ping picture of a house in the mountains<<
Me: I imagined it something like this though.

No response so far, I realized my answer was overeager.

2. Northern African, Muslim but wears shorts and tops, foreign language teacher, quite cute. Met on expat meetup.

31/07
Me: Anyways, wanna meet up tomorrow or Friday? I'll show you Y and Z.
Her: I would love to,
Her: However, I'm working till noon then writing thesis till the evening.
Her: (
01/07
Me: First things first, see you after my holidays then (:
Her: Great!
Her: Enjoy ur holidays


I thought of sending them pics from my holidays on Thursday, capitalize on response and text them that I'm back in town after my holidays.
Feedback appreciated.

Read Krauser's text game clinic. Always keep leads warm - the purpose is to keep you in her mind, be in a dream-like state and anticipate meeting you again. It is heavily underestimated what can be done over messaging - teasing, qualification, rapport. As they are away, there's no time pressure. Build the connection between you two. Lead her.

2/08
Me: Waiting for an "update" (inside joke)
Her: >>sends me 4 videos of beaches, forests, some mountains, each video described)<<
3/08
Me: So detailed depiction. You must be awesome at your job (:
Me: >>Ping picture of a house in the mountains<<
Me: I imagined it something like this though.

Nothing really bad in here, but not very personal. Maybe she's busy, maybe new guys (and exes) appeared, maybe she lost her phone, maybe...

Re-engage in a positive manner, I'd do something along the lines:

ÜberSuperAlphaMale: Ahoy! (waving hand on whatsapp). How's my third favourite Italian girl? (simple smiley) (credit: Krauser).

This message is cheerful and upbeat, it shows you're unaffected by her lack of response, it doesn't get nosey in the way of 'What were you doing last few days'. It also very subtly indicates you aren't fully sold on her, most girls thing they are the guy's best option, here you show that if she wants to be number one, there'll be work to do. It's very subtle, playful but there's this implicit qualification from superior quality male going on there.

31/07
Me: Anyways, wanna meet up tomorrow or Friday? I'll show you Y and Z.
Her: I would love to,
Her: However, I'm working till noon then writing thesis till the evening.
Her: (
01/07
Me: First things first, see you after my holidays then (:
Her: Great!
Her: Enjoy ur holidays

Send her a cool picture but not something obvious a la "A guy with a goofy smile in front of the Eiffel Tower". Something alluding to having fun with other girls but not easy to interpret or something very manly. You don't need to be in that picture. Something she can comment on and begin to thing "Hmm, this guy is more interesting than I thought."

[griffinmill]

Polish chick I banged for two months this year. She's 12 years younger, about an 8, and no tats. The last time I returned back to my home country she asked when I'd visit next. When I told her a month she was upset and said she could no longer have a long distance relationship as it was causing her too much pain.

I tried to maintain text banter regardless but she went cold, so around 8 weeks ago I deleted her from everything and went NC. She was upset about that, but I remained silent.

We stopped talking, but she creeps my IG every single day.

She texts on FB tonight after all this time saying the has a question. She tells me she wants to know the name of some fucking quiz show from my home country from ten years ago.

Not even so much as a "how are you".

My response?

[ShuaiGe]

Answer her question. Ramble about loosely related things until you can feel rapport is starting to feel back to normal.

Then you could just ask her out over text message or ask if she has time to talk on the phone now. Talking on the phone will help the positive feeling of communication between you two, then ask her out.

No way to know for sure. She could just be curious to see if your rich and famous now or if you crashed and burned in life.

[No More Mr. Soy Boy]

"Why are you not texting me, daddy? "

Any good responses to that, anyone?
I haven't texted her because I'm busy with other girls now and won't be able to see this girl anyway in 2 weeks because of the distance between us and don't like to be her friend.

[Remington]

^"busy"

[ksbms]

(08-16-2018 05:41 PM)No More Mr. Soy Boy Wrote:  

"Why are you not texting me, daddy? "

Any good responses to that, anyone?
I haven't texted her because I'm busy with other girls now and won't be able to see this girl anyway in 2 weeks because of the distance between us and don't like to be her friend.

Couldn't be any simpler.

Girl: Why are you not texting me, daddy?
Superman: Well, have you been well behaved lately?"

[kaotic]

(08-18-2018 03:36 PM)ksbms Wrote:  

(08-16-2018 05:41 PM)No More Mr. Soy Boy Wrote:  

"Why are you not texting me, daddy? "

Any good responses to that, anyone?
I haven't texted her because I'm busy with other girls now and won't be able to see this girl anyway in 2 weeks because of the distance between us and don't like to be her friend.

Couldn't be any simpler.

Girl: Why are you not texting me, daddy?
Superman: Well, have you been well behaved lately?"

Excellent play.

When girls call you daddy it literally opens to you a whole new world of text and game.

So many ways you could play this, pent up sexual tension, nudes, them driving far distances for a quick fuck, etc.

[Vasily Zaytsev]

Due to the reccomendation of Kaotic I am moving this post here

Should I Text Back or Forget Girl
"A few days ago, I was at a club with some friends of mine and ended up meeting a really cool girl and we spent the night together and I even kissed her a few different times throughout the night. Before I left she even begged for me to hang out with her before she leaves for Uni. I was excited because I was also hoping to see her again, but, when I texted back the next day she didn't respond. At this point, it has now been two days since we met and I was thinking about texting her back again to see what happens. Also, I'm pretty sure she wasn't drunk when we were hanging out because she just had one drink."

What do you think I should do guys?

Thanks


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[Trent W.]

It's most likely dead but you can send one more message before you declare it.

Wait at least a couple more days. Then send her a message with either a random funny/provocative comment or a meme of some sort. Try to make it relatable to you and her. If you're getting silence do not try to make plans and avoid asking questions.

To give you an idea, once I sent a gif of a girl dancing a silly hoola hoop dance to a girl I had met and danced with at a bar with a caption "I saw that and it reminded me of you". Another timeless classic for re-initiating is the "I saw a cat that looked just like you". I'm pretty sure you can find it online if you search.