[polymath]

This whole thread reminds me of a story...

I'm DJing a party at my fraternity, maybe 200 people on the dance floor, and on this night the girls keep asking me to play shitty songs that I don't have or don't care to play. At first I try to be nice and say I don't have that particular song, but they get all whiny and persistent, demanding that I download the song for their friends, so I start telling them that if I play whatever bullshit they want to hear, everyone will leave the dance floor.

Usually this shuts em up, since a little rudeness goes a long way with obnoxious drunk skanks, but this slender blonde in a cute little football jersey (I'd say she was a 9, really pretty IMO) comes up to the DJ booth and keeps insisting that I play her jam. I try to ignore her but she won't leave, and eventually puts on a pouty face and says something like "if you play my song, I'll hook up with you." Maybe she was dead serious, but something about being coerced by force of sex drive just rubbed me the wrong way. I say no, and she asks why not....so I smile huge and say the first thing that comes to mind:

"Because you're not attractive, at all."

The girl starts crying, absolutely wailing there up on the DJ booth, and I try to chill her out before anyone notices. Luckily my buddy comes in and swoops her (literally, says a few soothing words, kisses her and takes her upstairs by the hand) so I can get back to the party, but damn.

I felt really bad, until I realized that any guy who has the audacity to say "do what I say, and I'll hook up with you" to a random girl, would probably get smacked down ten times harder.

Uppity cunts.

[xsplat]

"if you play my song, I'll hook up with you."

I have doubts. But I bet that flirtatious/emotional blackmail game has worked well for her. Congrats on throwing a monkey wrench in her gears.

[tenderman100]

(07-27-2012 01:35 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

More dick things I've done today..
One of my guys was bitching and handed me his time sheet at 1130 or so. I paid him and gave all the new work to the other dude. Fuck you!
Told a girl via text the only way she's going to see me tonight is if she gets me a hotel room on the beach.
Another girl text me about spending the night and I said "no thanks" Then she said she wants to fuck my brains out and I sent back bring a hotter friend and I'll think about it.
I'm not even wound up yet...
Edit: I didn't give change to two customers today. 80 dollars. I made excuses when asked for it.

Well, I am all for this, except for the customer part. Business transactions should be totally above board.

Other than that...dick away!!

[Sketness]

How would one transform themselves into a dick?

[hypesession]

(07-29-2012 06:54 PM)Sketness Wrote:  

How would one transform themselves into a dick?

the essence of being a well rounded dick is captured well in the words of my friend and mentor dr. suess: "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."

a lot of ppl apologize. dicks don't apologize.

[peterthephoenix]

I've hung around with dicks a lot and these are my thoughts on how to start to become one:

- Never say sorry (even if you really fucked up, you would probably just say oops)
- Expect people to pay for you
- Expect people to adapt themselves to your timeline and your way of viewing things
- When people do not accept your point of view, become verbally aggressive with them until they back down
- Take the lead of where your group is going without asking anyone's opinion
- Have no consideration of others opinion if they give it
- Remove feelings of empathy for others. Your needs always come first.
- Always be late to things, as you have no respect for other people's time
- When teasing girls, you will often overdo it. And girls may call you an asshole.
- Adopt the dark triad of Machiavellianism, Narcissism and Psychopathy.

Now, this will sound extremely selfish, self-centred, mooch-ish and dark. But it will often lead to you doing very well with women.

[soup]

I pulled a dick move this weekend.

I bounced a group of strangers to a fancy diner after closing time. There were two chicks, and I wanted to see what was up.

We sat down and put in our orders. I ordered a big dish. Soon after, I started to get the sense that I wasn't going to get anywhere with the girls, so I stepped outside and didn't come back.

[Veloce]

(07-30-2012 11:20 AM)soup Wrote:  

I pulled a dick move this weekend.

I bounced a group of strangers to a fancy diner after closing time. There were two chicks, and I wanted to see what was up.

We sat down and put in our orders. I ordered a big dish. Soon after, I started to get the sense that I wasn't going to get anywhere with the girls, so I stepped outside and didn't come back.

I've been doing shit like this lately. Getting to the point where I can predict exactly what's going to happen with an approach or knowing that I'm not going to get laid that night, and just ejecting in the middle of a conversation, no explanation, and walking off. This is how I know I really see the Matrix for what it is. Most conversations with bitches feel so scripted anyway, once I see it go in a certain direction and I know I can't get it back, I'm just wasting my time from that point forward.

[deepcov3r]

(07-30-2012 11:34 AM)thedude3737 Wrote:  

(07-30-2012 11:20 AM)soup Wrote:  

I pulled a dick move this weekend.

I bounced a group of strangers to a fancy diner after closing time. There were two chicks, and I wanted to see what was up.

We sat down and put in our orders. I ordered a big dish. Soon after, I started to get the sense that I wasn't going to get anywhere with the girls, so I stepped outside and didn't come back.

I've been doing shit like this lately. Getting to the point where I can predict exactly what's going to happen with an approach or knowing that I'm not going to get laid that night, and just ejecting in the middle of a conversation, no explanation, and walking off. This is how I know I really see the Matrix for what it is. Most conversations with bitches feel so scripted anyway, once I see it go in a certain direction and I know I can't get it back, I'm just wasting my time from that point forward.

This is very interesting, I'm feeling I know from facial expressions, lack of pupil dilation, body language when that kind of thing is happening, but not with your level of certainty.

Even so, sometimes when I know I'm blown and there's no interest, or even when I can sense she really just wants me to leave her alone, I still act interested, because by hanging around her longer I learn MORE additional cues about how bitches act when they're not interested.

A couple that are obvious but that still have taken me time to recognize are when she says "what?", but after a pretty long pause after you finish speaking. It means (A) she's not listening to you (B) It took her a while to realize she hadn't understood what you said!-- then she has to ask not to be totally rude....(B) She never tells you anything about herself unless you ask, and then just a minimal amount to answer your question= she's not interested in you knowing more about her.

In Style's book ( yeah, I know, there's guys here that know much more than a New York Times best-selling author) he recommended staying in the set 30% longer than you want , or after you're blown , or something like that.

[soup]

Let's not be too critical here. "The Game" and Mystery, and a lot of that stuff is on a genius level in that it took something that even Stephen Hawking thinks is the "greatest mystery" in the universe and broke it down into simple, and more importantly, usable parts.

Let's give honor to the earlier generation and accept all the updates.

[Sebastian]

I did similar things several times last weekend.

Went to singles event by Match.com
There were several chicks I approached. I gave them fair attentions by asking some questions. Some of them weren't that responsive, and didn't seem too excited to meet me. So I left them and approached other girls right near them. When I ran into them later, they seemed irritated. But I left them because I didn't see any connection there. Nothing wrong here. Maybe they should thank me for saving their time.

Did the same thing on a dance floor. I did heavy grinding with couple chicks. But I knew they were just dance floor whores. So I left.
This girl didn't let me put my hand on her waist so I just walked away. she looked at me weird when I grabbed another chick and started to grind with her.

I am trying to listen to my 'gut feeling'. I knew the conversation wasn't going anywhere and knew soon she would say 'well it was nice meeting you'. But I still sat there for a little possibility. Of course, my gut feeling turned out to be right.

I don't think 'walking away' can change her mind. Since American women put their Ego as top priority. No girls are going to chase you after you walked away like that.

I think it's more about having a self-respect for yourself (plus saving some time too) I am not doing it to boost my ego.
I show them genuine interest First. If I don't get the same thing in return, I feel disrespected and I have no choice but to eject myself.

(07-30-2012 11:34 AM)thedude3737 Wrote:  

(07-30-2012 11:20 AM)soup Wrote:  

I pulled a dick move this weekend.

I bounced a group of strangers to a fancy diner after closing time. There were two chicks, and I wanted to see what was up.

We sat down and put in our orders. I ordered a big dish. Soon after, I started to get the sense that I wasn't going to get anywhere with the girls, so I stepped outside and didn't come back.

I've been doing shit like this lately. Getting to the point where I can predict exactly what's going to happen with an approach or knowing that I'm not going to get laid that night, and just ejecting in the middle of a conversation, no explanation, and walking off. This is how I know I really see the Matrix for what it is. Most conversations with bitches feel so scripted anyway, once I see it go in a certain direction and I know I can't get it back, I'm just wasting my time from that point forward.

[Architekt]

It strikes me as curious that most of the stuff that makes someone a "dickhead" is really just about looking out for yourself before others, and being firm in your beliefs. I wonder how this trend actually came about..

[UgSlayer]

There is a difference between being a dick and being assertive and self-interested.

I consider myself a nice guy, but if when people have crossed my boundaries, I've put them in their place. It doesn't have to be harsh always, but sometimes I've had to make girls cry for them to understand.

I like to make people feel good and bring a positive vibe. That is not to say that I always put others before myself.

The key to my game is to be nice, teasing, and playful, so the girls get good emotions out of me. But I'm also stern when I need to be and have strict boundaries and punish them when they get out of line. They can't get enough of those emotional spikes, and when I'm aloof and inaccessible, they crave me. Another key is to keep myself busy and do my own thing, and have multiple prospects, or else I'd probably give too much attention to one girl and it wouldn't be as effective. I'm sure there are other things I do that I'm not conscious of.

I say things that a nice guy would say, but have strict boundaries and standards and act as a "dickhead" when they're not with you ie, missed phone calls, delayed texts, being late, seeing other girls, doing your own thing. Also, doing these things are not "to get the girl" usually I'm really busy or would rather have my alone time than communicate with chicks electronically.

[el mechanico]

Went on a date last night....Almost made it through without being a dick and then Boom! Bartender says to me while we were walking out for a smoke "hey your gonna have to leave a card here" Really? ok here you go but don't run it. I come back in and he has my bill w/card ran. Dude! what did I just tell you? Are you that fucking nervous over 10 fucking dollars? Well I didn't know if you were...Give me the fucking thing. where the tip was I drew a picture of balls and cock and said here I left you a little something.

[UgSlayer]

(07-31-2012 10:04 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Went on a date last night....Almost made it through without being a dick and then Boom! Bartender says to me while we were walking out for a smoke "hey your gonna have to leave a card here" Really? ok here you go but don't run it. I come back in and he has my bill w/card ran. Dude! what did I just tell you? Are you that fucking nervous over 10 fucking dollars? Well I didn't know if you were...Give me the fucking thing. where the tip was I drew a picture of balls and cock and said here I left you a little something.

Fucking hilarious. Literally laughed out loud. Wish I could like this 10 times.

[hypesession]

(07-31-2012 10:24 AM)UgSlayer Wrote:  

(07-31-2012 10:04 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Went on a date last night....Almost made it through without being a dick and then Boom! Bartender says to me while we were walking out for a smoke "hey your gonna have to leave a card here" Really? ok here you go but don't run it. I come back in and he has my bill w/card ran. Dude! what did I just tell you? Are you that fucking nervous over 10 fucking dollars? Well I didn't know if you were...Give me the fucking thing. where the tip was I drew a picture of balls and cock and said here I left you a little something.

Fucking hilarious. Literally laughed out loud. Wish I could like this 10 times.

People have to stop saying this.

[UgSlayer]

(07-31-2012 11:51 AM)hypesession Wrote:  

(07-31-2012 10:24 AM)UgSlayer Wrote:  

(07-31-2012 10:04 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Went on a date last night....Almost made it through without being a dick and then Boom! Bartender says to me while we were walking out for a smoke "hey your gonna have to leave a card here" Really? ok here you go but don't run it. I come back in and he has my bill w/card ran. Dude! what did I just tell you? Are you that fucking nervous over 10 fucking dollars? Well I didn't know if you were...Give me the fucking thing. where the tip was I drew a picture of balls and cock and said here I left you a little something.

Fucking hilarious. Literally laughed out loud. Wish I could like this 10 times.

People have to stop saying this.

Didn't know it was a thing. But sure if you say so.

[Hotwheels]

Was called a dick by two different people Sat night.

[void]

(07-31-2012 07:41 AM)Architekt Wrote:  

It strikes me as curious that most of the stuff that makes someone a "dickhead" is really just about looking out for yourself before others, and being firm in your beliefs. I wonder how this trend actually came about..

in the "other" boards its called "frame". being stable in your believes/values and acting accordingly.

[rationalize_this]

Last night pulled another girl while waiting for my date to arrive. Text today from girl I was supposed to meet up with. Tried to restart.

Her: "I saw you dancing with someone else last night and didn't want to bother, it really seemed like you were enjoying yourselves..."

Me: Grab me next time.

Her: "Ups.... Don't think so. We had a date and u left me alone... or that is what I thought. no next time. Have a good trip back to NYC"

[Feo]

(07-31-2012 10:04 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

where the tip was I drew a picture of balls and cock and said here I left you a little something.

haha. Right on mechanico...

Since we're on the topic of recent dickhead moves..Last Friday I was out with a colombian girl I've been seeing and her co-workers...I didnt like one of them, so everytime he ordered a drink I took it out of his hand and drank it. Then I went to take a piss and out comes this fat asian chick...so I berated her for taking a shit in the bathroom...did she? I don't know

Saturday..picked up this philipina chick for drinks and turns out she has a pretty sick apartment where I could see myself hanging out on a regular basis, so I took it upon myself to hit on the first girl I saw infront of her just in case it doesn;t work out. Turned out to be a do-able german chick, she added me on the facebook yesterday...

Yesterday morning..I'm on my bike on the freeway and some asshole cuts me off without indicating. usually I flip thier sideview mirror backwards and they have to roll down thier window to fix it...but this guy had fixed sideviews and all I saw was mirror wire and plastic while I sped off. but to be honest..fuck that guy..

[txtraveler]

damn
this is the one thing I need to work on....if I could learn to be a dickhead then i could get laid a lot more

[Rah]

This thread made me realize I need to workout more and start practicing fighting to the point where I feel like I wouldn't pussy out of physical confrontation. For a second I think "yeah fuck it I'm going out like el mech for the night", but then I know I would back down to the first person to call my bluff. For me, I can see that my tendency to be nice is tied to avoiding conflict and my tendency to avoid conflict is tied to not being willing to throw down if need be. That has to be some primal shit going on there. The weird thing is it doesn't matter if I'm dealing with women or men, I'm still operating on the same "avoid conflict, preserve self" programming.

I'm not looking to get into the habit of getting into fights, but I can see that not being willing to if pressed makes being an authentic man impossible -- because you don't have a bottom line. Its like playing no limit holdem without ever being willing to go all-in, you'll get eaten alive.

[txtraveler]

so I watched this movie last night(without looking at the preview first)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhYvKtdU3mI

The Jerk Theory

Now, this movie sucks because it puts in guys mind that the nice guy image, could work
But also...its genious because it's a movie about the theory of a guy being an dick to women works....but not for some girls. There's only 2 girls that like the nice guy image in the whole movie...well, maybe 3, but only at the end of the movie

Moral of the story....you wanna fall in love, nevermind screw that
being a jerk will get you laid


I understand this movie is fictional but funny that I stumbled upon it last night on netflix.

[SnakeEyes]

(07-27-2012 11:43 AM)americanbk Wrote:  

(07-27-2012 09:17 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Being a dick is not going to be easy for someone programmed to be nice. You're going to have to think in doubletime 24/7.

Here are the stages I've gone through in my transformation from nice-guy to a dick:

1. Nice guy: Hopeless nice guy, only concerned about making others happy, not being offensive, not making other people uncomfortable.
2. Corny scripted cockiness: I started using dumb, prescripted "cocky/funny" lines to try to make the 'ginas tingle. Somewhat successful.
3. Forced but creative cockiness: I started to recognize opportunities to be a prick, and consciously made them happen, sometimes against my will. Pissed a few people off, but much better results with women and strangely, more respect from peers.
4. Evil woman-hating spiteful bastard: Went into overdrive and became a nasty, bitter cunt. Not a good vibe. Friends and family were concerned, girls were just plain offended.
5. Well-rounded dickhead (haha): Just not giving a fuck about what anyone thinks and doing what comes natural. Doing whatever I think is funny. Calling people out when they deserve it. Teasing. Being selfish most of the time unless I'm really feeling generous.
   

These were the stages I went through, maybe other people did it differently? Either way, as e-mech alluded to, it's not going to happen overnight.

Are you me? Srs. I think I went through the same stage. It's gotta be an aging thing for guys.