[Kickb]

What's the best way to deliver that line? Do you like to say it with any inflection specially at the end? I or do you like to say it like you would say "the weather is great today"

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[Giovonny]

(11-28-2012 06:21 PM)kickboxer Wrote:  

What's the best way to deliver that line? Do you like to say it with any inflection specially at the end? I or do you like to say it like you would say "the weather is great today"

I don't know what "inflection" means.

Its best to say it with a playful, flirty, yet strong masculine frame.

Too serious = creppy

Too playful = immature

"The weather is great today" is to matter of fact and boring. Say it went more of a seductive tone and a smile on your face. Smile wide when she looks at you, this will make you appear friendly and playful and counter balance any suspicions that she might have.

Tone of voice is key- strong yet playful.

I currently studying and patterning myself after Vince Vaughn. Look how he talks to this girl..

[ManAbout]

(11-28-2012 04:14 PM)kickboxer Wrote:  

I wanted to dive in and use Gio's "you have a great ass!" opener, but I didn't see any girls with great ass walking around today. =[

I use a variation of this that goes something like "You look great in those pants." Or "You make those pants look really good." It is less overtly sexual, and useful if you are not sure about the girl's age, which can be an issue off-campus.

[TheMachinist]

(11-28-2012 06:38 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(11-28-2012 06:21 PM)kickboxer Wrote:  

What's the best way to deliver that line? Do you like to say it with any inflection specially at the end? I or do you like to say it like you would say "the weather is great today"

I don't know what "inflection" means.

Its best to say it with a playful, flirty, yet strong masculine frame.

Too serious = creppy

Too playful = immature

"The weather is great today" is to matter of fact and boring. Say it went more of a seductive tone and a smile on your face. Smile wide when she looks at you, this will make you appear friendly and playful and counter balance any suspicions that she might have.

Tone of voice is key- strong yet playful.

I currently studying and patterning myself after Vince Vaughn. Look how he talks to this girl..

Vince Vaughn is funny without even trying.

[rationalize_this]

Went to the law library to get some research done, they have a good AmJur2d collection.

In walks this brunette (8) wearing a knitted shirt with holes so you could see through it. Under a black bra, and tight black and yellow workout pants showing off a tiny waist and big round ass. I couldn't concentrate on what I was doing for the next 5 minutes thinking about that ass. She sits down a section in front of me.

I got up to go get another volume and told her to watch my stuff. She smiled and said "sure". After fucking around in the A section for a few minutes I returned and started bantering in a whisper with her rambling about law school exams etc. She's a first year, and already soaking up my value asking me questions. At one point I say "You should use me....< hold hold hold> as a resource." (smirk) I leave her and get back to my work for an hour or so.

She gets up, comes over and tells me to watch her stuff. I quip "Let me know your name so when it gets stolen I know who to find!". She laughs and says "Erica and you better not!"

She comes back about 15 minutes later with Starbucks (of course) and asked me about my watching duties, I told her I'm just returning the favor.

I finish my work and ask her what her exam schedules like, and to find me if she has any questions, or to celebrate when she's done. She offers her number. I run into a buddy outside and am shooting the shit when she walks out again and smiles at me.

Edit: I'm testing out a way that may reduce flakes. Remember her name and repeat it at the end of the interaction. "Thanks, I'll definitely get a hold of you later xxxx."

[_GQ_]

Good shit man.

Question though. Any reason you couldn't take her to do something after you both got done at the library?

[rationalize_this]

(11-29-2012 06:23 PM)_GQ_ Wrote:  

Good shit man.

Question though. Any reason you couldn't take her to do something after you both got done at the library?

I had a meeting 30 minutes later, and speaking from experience, its not wise to try and organize dates/activities with 1Ls during final exams.

[Merenguero]

(11-29-2012 07:00 PM)rationalize_this Wrote:  

(11-29-2012 06:23 PM)_GQ_ Wrote:  

Good shit man.

Question though. Any reason you couldn't take her to do something after you both got done at the library?

I had a meeting 30 minutes later, and speaking from experience, its not wise to try and organize dates/activities with 1Ls during final exams.

If you know what section she is in, what you may want to do is find out the exact date and time of each of her exams and text her about five minutes after her first exam to see if she wants to go have a drink. I remember in my first year after our first final, which was torts, everyone made a bee line to the bar even though we had another final the next day.

[rationalize_this]

(11-29-2012 07:15 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

(11-29-2012 07:00 PM)rationalize_this Wrote:  

(11-29-2012 06:23 PM)_GQ_ Wrote:  

Good shit man.

Question though. Any reason you couldn't take her to do something after you both got done at the library?

I had a meeting 30 minutes later, and speaking from experience, its not wise to try and organize dates/activities with 1Ls during final exams.

If you know what section she is in, what you may want to do is find out the exact date and time of each of her exams and text her about five minutes after her first exam to see if she wants to go have a drink. I remember in my first year after our first final, which was torts, everyone made a bee line to the bar even though we had another final the next day.

Already asked her that. Contracts in 10 days.

[bojangles]

Had a superb approach yesterday on this hot european girl outside work, direct, 2 minutes in and she takes her gloves off to shake my hand exposing that diamond on her finger. Damn, was moments after I'd posted in the lounge saying i was being a lazy arse, felt much better for it though

[Giovonny]

(11-30-2012 05:36 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

Had a superb approach yesterday on this hot european girl outside work, direct,

You went direct?

What did you say?

[G Trooper]

Last night was my first night out at the bars in Miami after returning from the DR...

Approach 1:
Started out at Pericones in Brickell...walked up to 2 girls as part of a bachelorette party. The open was super easy...they were wearing name tags. Anyways the 2 girls were early 30's and married, but 1 was showing good interest and we had some kino going before I bounced to the next bar.

Approach 2:
At the next bar, I walked by a hot Cuban girl in a dress and busted out my standard opener.... Excuse me...hi...you're cute. To which she responds in a bitchy tonality "hi how are you?".

I literally turned around and walked away...it helped to remind me that Miami girls have some outrageous bitch shields. I was spoiled with DR chicas.

Approach 3:
I went to the next bar with a couple newly met RVF playas. I saw a 5"10 schmookin Latina in a tight black dress standing at a table with bottle service. The guys in her group looked like a bunch of chumps, so I went in and grabbed her by the forearm and told her she was cute. I didn't let go of her hand when we did our hand shake and neither did she. After some chit chat, turns out she's 21 and Venuezuelan. Things started to escalate when she put her arms in me.

I had to get her away from her friends, so I took her to the dance floor. Soon after we started sucking tongue...and then I tried something new for me.

I started rubbing her crotch on the dancefloor and after a couple minutes, her rationalization hamster must have kicked into gear and she said she had to go back to her friends...I got the number, but who knows.

It's feels good to be back on the hunt and something new I want to work on is getting SNL's, instead of getting numbers and going on day 2's to get the bang.

[Giovonny]

(11-29-2012 05:12 PM)rationalize_this Wrote:  

Edit: I'm testing out a way that may reduce flakes. Remember her name and repeat it at the end of the interaction.

Yes, use her name! Everyone loves the sound of their own voice.

Call her by her name, use her name when you text.

It does personalize things and make her feel more connected.

I start many texts with their name..

mariah, blah, blah, blah..

hey sarah, blah, blah, blah

amy, whats up?

what up melissa, blah, blah, blah..

It works. All the famous salesmen mention this tactic.

[pitt]

(12-03-2012 02:52 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(11-29-2012 05:12 PM)rationalize_this Wrote:  

Edit: I'm testing out a way that may reduce flakes. Remember her name and repeat it at the end of the interaction.

Yes, use her name! Everyone loves the sound of their own voice.

Call her by her name, use her name when you text.

It does personalize things and make her feel more connected.

I start many texts with their name..

mariah, blah, blah, blah..

hey sarah, blah, blah, blah

amy, whats up?

what up melissa, blah, blah, blah..

It works. All the famous salesmen mention this tactic.

This

Actually i wanted to create a thread about this few months ago. Calling her by her name helps a lot and this made a HUGE difference in my game. Its interesting how small shit tend to be the most effective in game.

[Giovonny]

Here is another one from the dorms at a local university. I see a cute girl walking right towards me with her headphones on. Mixed looking, maybe asian/white, young, petite body..

Just as she gets to me, I touch her arm..

me: hey, what are you listening too?
her: sorry, my headphones were on
me: i was just asking what you were listening too, it looks like you are listening to the chili peppers.
her: oh no, but i love the chili peppers.
me: people say i look like the lead singer
her: omg, you do look like him
me: whats his name?
her" oh i forget
me: so what are you listening to today?
her: the deltones
me: oh i've never heard of them, can i listen?
her: sure

I put one of her headphones in my ear. The music is okay.

me: oh that is cool, i gotta check them out.
her: my favorite right now
me: what are you doing right now?
her: just going for a walk
me: oh thats nice, to where?
her: i don't know, just around campus
me: thats cool, you ever go to the beach?
her: not really, i don't have a car

Blah, Blah, Blah...We chat for a few minutes. Finally, she says this..

her: i'm kind of an alcoholic
me: haha really?
her: ya
me: well, i kind of feel like having a drink, wanna get some wine and hang out?
her: well, im only 18
me: no prob, i can buy it trader joes and we can put it in gatorade bottles
her: oh good idea
me: lets go to joes

We go to Trader Joes and get the wine. Then we walk to the top of this tower with a cool view. We hang out and drink. Other students are up there smoking weed. They let us hit some of their weed. After an hour or so, we are pretty tipsy. I start rubbing her hand and rubbing her back, I lean in and caress her ear and neck with my lips, she gives no resistance and seems into it. We start walking back to campus.

her: i have to go by my dorm room real quick.
me: okay

As soon as we get into the elevator I make my move, the elevator door closes and we start making out. We get to her room and its on, heavy make out, clothes start coming off, my cock is in her hand.

Beautiful, tight, young body. Half Filipino, half white.

I start to take her pants off. There is a knock at the door. Her fat roommate. Fuck!!!

I invite her to my house for dinner. We eat a little, I try to bang, she won't let me. The alcohol is wearing off. She ask me to take her home. I take her number, I text her a few days later, she never gets back to me.

Fuuuccccckkkkk!!!

This is the closest I've come to pulling a girl from her campus and getting a same day lay.

This is how it is with these 18 year olds, easy come, easy go!

[Giovonny]

WestCoast and I were walking through downtown San Francisco looking for cuties. We see a beautiful body walk right past us. We look at each other like - "oh fuck" - one of us has to go talk to her. She goes into a store. I say I will go in and open her. Just as I get to the store, she walks out and continues up the street before I can stop her. We look at each other again! I say "fuck it", I'm going to talk to her.

I speed up behind her, luckily she stops at a red light, I walk up along side her pretending that I never noticed her until this moment..She is wearing hot pink puma running shoes with a matching pink running suit. Great body!

me: cool pumas
her: thank you
me: are you training for a triathlon or something?
her: no just exploring the city
me: oh are you new in town?
her: yes i just moved from new york about 3 months ago
me: welcome to sf, what do you think so far?
her: well, ive just been working alot so i havent had a chance to get out much.
me: well thats not good
her: i know this is has been my first free weekend in a while

We walk and talk. She tells me she likes riding bicycles.

me: be careful, the drivers out here are crazy!
her: what areas to you recommended for riding bikes

Blah, Blah, Blah..We walk and talk for another block. I decide to go for her number and eject.

me: nice chatting with you, do you need a tour guide? I can show you some cool spots for bike riding
her: sure

Gives me her number. I texted her about 3 days later. No response. Will try again later this week.

[pitt]

I understand your pain gio, that shit happened to me few times, although it used to hurt me more when i was younger.

I remember me and my homie one time met these two girls. One white chick and one black chick. My friend strictly dated black girls and i would only date girls that had phat asses. These two girls had phat asses, but the white girl was my favourite one (i was 17 at the time btw). Anyway, we get on the bus, we started kissing these girls, fingering them, my girl was masturbating me while i was on the bus (the bus was packed) and then they started getting rude to this man and spat on him and shit..the bus driver calls police and we all leave the bus (i think thats where i got the idea to start spitting on girls, these girls were taking advantage of this beta man that was with his girlfriend, spitting on him for no reason and the guy couldnt deffend himself). Anyway we started walking towards their flat now, i tell her, ''yo i want to fuck you right here''..we stop outside this house, its late in the night..she pulls down her trousers halfway, im trying to insert my dick into her pussy but its not going in..i tell her that she needs to take off the trousers completely so i can insert my dick in..she tells me to wait till we get to her place..we walk to her place..they tell us to wait outside...we wait one hour and nothing..trying to call them and they aint picking up the phone..i was going crazyyyyyyyyyyyyyy..i wanted to start fighting my friend right there, someone had to be blamed for that shit.

Fuck, i miss being a teenager. When you are an adult you become less concerned about the pussy outcome, i wish i was getting the amount of pussy im getting now when i was 17.

[Giovonny]

(12-03-2012 04:26 PM)pitt Wrote:  

my girl was masturbating me

Wait?!?

Thats called getting a hand job!!!

It's only masturbation if you are by yourself!

[Menace]

Gio, I'm curious about something. You seem to ask a lot of questions...does that work better for you than making assumptions? Do you think it matters? I guess I'm of the mind that it's better to sort of make reasonable assumptions, but I'm not an approach machine like you...so interested in your thoughts.

[Giovonny]

(12-03-2012 04:33 PM)Menace Wrote:  

Gio, I'm curious about something. You seem to ask a lot of questions...does that work better for you than making assumptions? Do you think it matters?

Yes, I ask too many questions. I interview them. This is a weakness that I am working to improve on right now! I used to be worse but I'm getting much better at it.

I think it does matter, you don't want it to seem like an interview. I think you are correct for just making assumptions and rambling about those assumptions. You want her to be the one asking you questions and not vice versa.

I mean, a few questions are okay but I over do it a little.

Good point.

[pitt]

(12-03-2012 04:42 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(12-03-2012 04:33 PM)Menace Wrote:  

Gio, I'm curious about something. You seem to ask a lot of questions...does that work better for you than making assumptions? Do you think it matters?

Yes, I ask too many questions. I interview them. This is a weakness that I am working to improve on right now! I used to be worse but I'm getting much better at it.

I think it does matter, you don't want it to seem like an interview. I think you are correct for just making assumptions and rambling about those assumptions. You want her to be the one asking you questions and not vice versa.

I mean, a few questions are okay but I over do it a little.

Good point.

Its impressing how you recognise your own flaws.

I have the same problem too, sometimes i ask too many questions. Asking questions for me is like searching for a topic that we both can relate and when we find it, game over. Usually when i dont have much in common with the girl, i become extremely direct about the bang and this tends to fuck up things sometimes.

[Lothario]

(12-03-2012 05:03 PM)pitt Wrote:  

Its impressing how you recognise your own flaws.

I second that notion , Not only that is a sign of a good player but a good Person in general. I met Gio in person and his Game is at Super Yoda, Jedi Master shit level and more and it got there because he is always thinking about getting better.

I have seen problems with Players and people in my profession who are good , very good and start thinking they are GODS and that is their demise...... because they closed a door to admit they did something wrong and there is a way to Improve what they do.

I have always belived in "There is always room for self improvement"

Carry On Brothers, This Shit is addicting......

[Lothario]

Double post

[Giovonny]

(12-03-2012 05:03 PM)pitt Wrote:  

Its impressing how you recognize your own flaws.

Don't be impressed! Do you know why I recognize of my own flaws?

Young Pussy

That's why!! I do it for the pussy! I am aware of my flaws because I need to be in order to get young pussy!

I'm 36, gaming college girls, I gotta be damn near flawless!

(12-03-2012 05:03 PM)pitt Wrote:  

searching for a topic that we both can relate

Yes, we probe and search her mind for a topic that excites both her and us. We just have to do it without making it feel like an interview. I'm really working on having a fun, flirty conversation without asking too many personal questions. I have seen guys do this beautifully, just ramble and listen and never really ask any direct personal questions. The questions are more indirect and less serious but still reveal information.

(12-03-2012 05:03 PM)pitt Wrote:  

i become extremely direct about the bang and this tends to fuck up things sometimes.

Hahahaha! Thats funny! I do that sometimes. I just asked some girl if she wanted to fuck. We hung out twice and we made out and I thought she might be down. She said she respected how I kept it real but no thanks. hahaha

(12-03-2012 08:25 PM)Lothario Wrote:  

his Game is at Super Yoda

Don't say that! We all know thats bullshit!

My game is average, seriously, guys that know me will you, I'm not that great at talking to a girl and getting her attracted to me. I just approach so many girls that I will always find some that like me and my personality. Its just mathematics!

Approaching is like a free lottery! You could hit the jackpot and you didn't even have to spend any money!

I learned something from Lotharios daygame. He doesn't ask direct personal questions, it absolutely does not feel like an interview. His conversations flow very smoothly. He makes comments and jokes and only asks indirect type questions. I learned alot watching.

[bojangles]

Hey Gio,

Your approaches seem goood, try statements and more open ended questions, it's hard at first but once you know a few it get's easier. Sometimes if I'm stuck I just use a stock 'What are you up to today in London?' (she'll ask you the same so have an answer ready!)