...well this is the kind of aproach suitable for an adolescent or a guy in its early 20 s. For an mature man there is the risk of being ridiculous.
The Approach Thread
Quote: (02-15-2014 09:29 AM)Lukkkkkas Wrote:
...well this is the kind of aproach suitable for an adolescent or a guy in its early 20 s. For an mature man there is the risk of being ridiculous.
Lukkkkas:
It seems as if you wrote an incomplete sentence b/c you are not indicating to what you are referring.
Which approach is more suitable for a young guy?
Maybe it would helpful for us if you were to compare and contrast approach styles, in order that we can understand your point a little better? - especially, since you only have 4 posts on here that do NOT seem to tell very much about you.
Maybe you can also describe your approach style - how often you approach and in what kinds of environments?
I was talking about the so called day game. What may work for a 20 yo dealing with an 18 yo, would be ridiculous for a 30 + or 40 +. I saw in London some day gamers with gray hair trying to approach with Hey how are you.... In my eyes (at least) they look so pathetic. Most often the chicks get really scared. Roosh style seems to be more realistic. Playing the lost foreigner. ...with an ...Excuse me...there is by chance any place I can have a good coffee...or...I have heard about a nice art show somewhere around..... In countries like Poland, Hungary, or Romania where the chiks like foreigners...they will be genuinely wanting to be of some help...Then the *lost foreigner* can express his gratitude, by offering a coffee, or handling them his business visit card (if the chick is interested...she will latter give an add on facebook)...and...here is what I mean by a more subtle approach, less risky and more suited for a mature dude.
...then well...dance courses, conferences, seminars...etc...are all good hunting grounds...with their own specific strategies![[Image: idea.gif]](https://rooshvforum.network/images/smilies/new/idea.gif)
there is also a difference in therms of style between those looking for *bangs*, in my view rather *vagina colectors* and those for whom sex is useless without romance and feelings...the good old dilema QUALITY vs QUANTITY....but this is another story for the real predators.
...then well...dance courses, conferences, seminars...etc...are all good hunting grounds...with their own specific strategies
there is also a difference in therms of style between those looking for *bangs*, in my view rather *vagina colectors* and those for whom sex is useless without romance and feelings...the good old dilema QUALITY vs QUANTITY....but this is another story for the real predators.
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Quote: (02-15-2014 02:48 PM)Lukkkkkas Wrote:
I was talking about the so called day game. What may work for a 20 yo dealing with an 18 yo, would be ridiculous for a 30 + or 40 +. I saw in London some day gamers with gray hair trying to approach with Hey how are you.... In my eyes (at least) they look so pathetic. Most often the chicks get really scared. Roosh style seems to be more realistic. Playing the lost foreigner. ...wit a ...Excuse me...there is by chance any place I can have a good coffee...or...I have heard about a nice art show somewhere around..... In countries like Poland, Hungary, or Romania where the chiks like foreigners...they will be genuinely wanting to be of some help...Then the *lost foreigner* can express his gratitude, by offering a coffee, or handling them his business visit card (if the chick is interested...she will latter give an add on facebook)...and...here is what I mean by a more subtle approach, less risky and more suited for a mature dude.
...then well...dance courses, conferences, seminars...etc...are all good hunting grounds...with their own specific strategies
there is also a difference in therms of style between those looking for *bangs*, in my view rather *vagina colectors* and those for whom sex is useless without romance and feelings...but this is another story.
I agree with you that a guy needs to adjust his approach to his age and his audience... Yet, I would add that he also should measure whether he is getting what he wants out of whatever he is doing. Personally, I would NOT argue that one method is preferable to another, if the method is getting results for the guy.
You still have NOT said too much about your personal style...
In any event, I think that sometimes guys may purposefully change their approach style to experiment whether that works or NOT... and it may seem pathetic to an observer, but accomplish the objective for a guy to better know himself, his limits or whatever.
...people are different...there are some natural born gamers and guys who simple cannot be *good actors* without the risk of being ridiculous...so, adapting the aproach style must be within the bounderies of what is natural to a particular person. There are so many sober, introvert guys...who just cannot aproach a woman with an *Hi how are you* in the mid of the street. At least this is me.
Quote: (02-15-2014 03:18 PM)Lukkkkkas Wrote:
...people are different...there are some natural born gamers and guys who simple cannot be *good actors* without the risk of being ridiculous...so, adapting the aproach style must be within the bounderies of what is natural to a particular person. There are so many sober, introvert guys...who just cannot aproach a woman with an *Hi how are you* in the mid of the street. At least this is me.
I have attempted to give you several hints to provide us, in this thread, with more material to work with, and YOU are NOT cooperating...
To me, it is beginning to sound as if you are just being judgmental of other guys.... just b/c something may NOT work for you does NOT mean that another guy might NOT want to use it or try it...
Who cares about you, if we DONT know anything about you. Do you just want us to guess about what will work for you and then accept your "contribution" concerning what works or does NOT work?
I think in the previous post #1228 I just gave you some valuable (tested) aproach strategy material to work with ...
I tend to think universal aproach recipies are more usefull (of course well adapted to situational, intentional and age categories).
Quote: (02-15-2014 02:48 PM)Lukkkkkas Wrote:
I was talking about the so called day game. What may work for a 20 yo dealing with an 18 yo, would be ridiculous for a 30 + or 40 +.
Giovonny is in his late 30's. He seems to do OK.
Got any approach diaries of your own? I'd love to hear contrasting styles.
...I am not denying this kind of game may provide some results...but...the question is what kind of results? at what cost in terms of time, and embarassement?
By the way...I have a friend in Cluj -Romania 47yo ( divorced Romanian American recently repatriated). He use to spend all day long at lounges, bars and terases.... When he is not on Badoo with his mobile phone, he is using the * Hey How are you* approach. Sometimes there are some outcomes...recently he approached a 22 yo solid 7 (by the local standard)...and ended banging her mother...sill a good enough 39 yo. So ...there are alwais some results no doubts....
By the way...I have a friend in Cluj -Romania 47yo ( divorced Romanian American recently repatriated). He use to spend all day long at lounges, bars and terases.... When he is not on Badoo with his mobile phone, he is using the * Hey How are you* approach. Sometimes there are some outcomes...recently he approached a 22 yo solid 7 (by the local standard)...and ended banging her mother...sill a good enough 39 yo. So ...there are alwais some results no doubts....
Quote: (02-15-2014 04:24 PM)Lukkkkkas Wrote:
...I am not denying this kind of game may provide some results...but...the question is what kind of results? at what cost in terms of time, and embarassement?
By the way...I have a friend in Cluj -Romania 47yo ( divorced Romanian American recently repatriated). He use to spend all day long at lounges, bars and terases.... When he is not on Badoo with his mobile phone, he is using the * Hey How are you* approach. Sometimes there are some outcomes...recently he approached a 22 yo solid 7 (by the local standard)...and ended banging her mother...sill a good enough 39 yo. So ...there are alwais some results no doubts....
Are you sure that was a friend, or was it a book that you read or a reality TV program?
...Irony is never a constructive attitude Jay...or who knows...perhaps for some people this kind of situation may even sound too good to be true.
Quote: (02-15-2014 04:50 PM)Lukkkkkas Wrote:
...Irony is never a constructive attitude Jay...or who knows...perhaps for some people this kind of situation may even sound too good to be true.
You seem to believe that I have an attitude issue?
In order to better understand your claims and/or criticisms and/or advice about how to approach or whether to approach, I have been trying to ask you about specific aspects concerning your personal approach..... to try to save you from yourself... and instead, it seems to me that you have been providing fictional accounts, he said she said or, at minimum, pithy and difficult to fathom puzzles...
Maybe you are wondering why anyone may get frustrated with such a presentation?
Quote: (02-15-2014 09:29 AM)Lukkkkkas Wrote:
...well this is the kind of approach suitable for an adolescent or a guy in its early 20 s. For a mature man there is the risk of being ridiculous.
I actually don't mind being "ridiculous".
Honestly, the more ridiculous I am, the more hot, young, pussy I get.
Quote: (02-15-2014 02:48 PM)Lukkkkkas Wrote:
What may work for a 20 yo dealing with an 18 yo, would be ridiculous for a 30 + or 40 +.
by a more subtle approach, less risky and more suited for a mature dude.
I don't like the conservative approach. It's boring for me.
I like the aggressive, sexual, approach. That's more fun!
To each their own.
Quote: (02-15-2014 06:47 AM)pitt Wrote:
Yeah Gio I had a feeling you were not writing down every single thing you said to these girls.
I completely understand your non verbal game strategy. I had days where I said cheesy lines to girls and I still got laid. I think how you say it and how you carry yourself always beats what you say. Girls know who is getting laid just by looking at you and listening you talk for few secs.
I also try to make my interactions short. I have rolled with forum guys with good game but they wasted a lot of time in girls they were not interested in. I would ask them ''why are you talking all this time to this girl if you are not interested? Time is money''..I guess they were doing for building momentum..but fuck it..building momentum to me is approaching different girls and invest time in those who are looking to get fucked.
Exactly!
Yesterday, Saturday, I went downtown to meet Westcoast for some day gaming and shopping..
I parked my car and hit the sidewalk ready to chat to any cute girls. I was "suited up" in my new sky blue blazer, grey slim slacks, and white polo shirt. Being suited up increased my confidence by 20-30%.
I had to walk a block to meet him. On the way, I saw 2 cute latinas wearing camouflage scarfs..
I walked past them as they they stood on a corner..
me: i love those scarves, where did you buy those?
her: 21st and valencia, my friend has a store there..
me: those are hot
her: thanks go check it out
me: i will
I kept walking because I was a little late and I wasn't sure if they were in high school or college. Basically, it was just a little social warm-up.
I meet Westcoast in a coffee shop. He immediately opens a decent blond. She was from NYC, I wanted to ask her if she wanted to hang out later but since Westcoast opened her, I gave him the option to game her or not.
He choose not too. It was just his "warm up".
We both agreed that one of us should have at least tried to get back to her hotel room that night.
We got our coffee and got down to business, which was him helping me with fashion and finances and me helping him with sober, day time, charisma..
He immediately said I needed a better shirt and better pants. We went straight to Express where I was quickly in the changing room area being helped by a sexy filapina. I didn't really game her aggressively but instead sort of bossed her around and made her help me with my new clothes.
After my clothes had been paid for and I was wearing my fresh new outfit, I stalled for a few minutes and literally waited inside my dressing room until she was by herself outside. When all the other employees left, I exited the changing room and found her folding clothes by herself..
me: monica, what do you think?
her: that looks good
me: thank you, im sorry i haven't had a chance to flirt with you as much as I wanted to
her: oh haha your funny
me: well i was busy getting these clothes but you do look very nice today
her: oh thanks
me: why don't we talk later and maybe i can take take you put for a drink sometime
her: okay
me: i don't wanna get you trouble
I take my phone out.
her: don't worry, my number is xxx-xxxx
me: ok got it, ill text you soon
her: k
Westcoast and I exit the store get back to our search for approachable women and new clothes.
****
We get to Nordstroms, Westcoast begins looking at some high end shirts, I look for girls. I quickly see a cute latina walking by herself, she is headed straight in my direction, when she gets close, I say..
me: hi excuse me
her: ya
me: you look great today
She looked at me with some suspicion. She could probably tell that I was saying the same thing to 100 other girls.
her: thanks
me: what are you shopping for?
her: just browsing
me: wanna help me shop?
her: im with my boyfriend
She points to her boyfriend who is standing right behind me and has been listening to the while conversation.
I walk away as fast as possible.
*****
10 minutes later, Westcoast and I are headed down an escalator, there are two 7.5's behind us, one of them is holding a little box that looks like food..
me: is that pizza?
She didn't respond.
I wanted to ask her if she spoke english but it was a little crowded so I just decided to move on.
*****
We walk over to Uniqlo. WC searches for shirts, I see a beautiful white girl leaving the store. I leave right behind her and catch up to her..
me: excuse me
her: yes
me: i just passed you leaving uniqlo, you look great today, whats your name?
her: stefanie
me: nice to meet you, im gio
her: hi gio
me: are you from around here?
her: well, i live here now but im from oregon
me: i no wonder you look so healthy
her: haha
me: listen, i know its crazy but can i call you and flirt with you sometime?
her: oh sorry gio, i have a boyfreind
Next!
*****
10 minutes later, we are walking down the street, I see a sexy mediterranean girl. It's busy so I step into her path and grab her arm..
me: hey whats up
She turns and smiles. She liked it.
For some stupid reason, I keep walking.
I should have stopped and moved in her direction and continued trying to chat with her! Fuck!
*****
3 minutes later, I see a hot easten european girl, trying to make up for my previous mistake, I immediately stop,turn, and walk with her..
hey whats up you look nice today
her: thanks, i have a boyfriend
Next!
*****
Westcoast generously buys me dinner.
I love the passion, dedication, imagination, and focus of that young playboy!
We part ways around 6pm.
I text a few girl who I have approached in the last 2 weeks.
I ended up going out on a little date with the girl from this approach:
She is 18 years old. Just moved here from Florida. Hot little body and cute face. Date went well and I will be pushing to bang on the next date. She declined my invite to come "watch tv" at my "new" condo and said she shares a room with a roomate so we couldn't hang at her place.
I dropped her off around 1030pm. As I was pulling my car out of her building's parking lot, I saw something in my rear view mirror, a beautiful, young, thin girl wearing thigh high white socks with a little skirt, she had long hair and a gorgeous face. .
She was exiting the building lobby, i immediately stopped my car and walked towards the front of the building. She put her hand up and waved at someone, I thought. I walked right into her path..
me: hello, are you waving at me?
her: oh, hi, no, i was just checking the rain
me: oh i thought you were trying to say hi to me ha
her: haha
me: what are you up to tonight?
her: im just going to see a friend right now
me: are yu walking in this rain/
her: ya
me: you are going to get all wet
her: oh my gosh i know
me: which way are you going? if you're going up towards main street, i can give you a ride if you promise not to murder me
her: oh thanks anyways, i dont mind walking
me: ok, just offering , whats your name
her: kaya
me: what?
her: kaya
me: what kind of name is that?
me; its japanese
her: are you japanese
her: yes half
me: and what else?
her: puerto rican
This young girl was a 9. Beautiful.
We chat for a few more minutes and to make a long story short, I end up driving her to the train station and we texted a little bit that night.
I love this game!
I parked my car and hit the sidewalk ready to chat to any cute girls. I was "suited up" in my new sky blue blazer, grey slim slacks, and white polo shirt. Being suited up increased my confidence by 20-30%.
I had to walk a block to meet him. On the way, I saw 2 cute latinas wearing camouflage scarfs..
I walked past them as they they stood on a corner..
me: i love those scarves, where did you buy those?
her: 21st and valencia, my friend has a store there..
me: those are hot
her: thanks go check it out
me: i will
I kept walking because I was a little late and I wasn't sure if they were in high school or college. Basically, it was just a little social warm-up.
I meet Westcoast in a coffee shop. He immediately opens a decent blond. She was from NYC, I wanted to ask her if she wanted to hang out later but since Westcoast opened her, I gave him the option to game her or not.
He choose not too. It was just his "warm up".
We both agreed that one of us should have at least tried to get back to her hotel room that night.
We got our coffee and got down to business, which was him helping me with fashion and finances and me helping him with sober, day time, charisma..
He immediately said I needed a better shirt and better pants. We went straight to Express where I was quickly in the changing room area being helped by a sexy filapina. I didn't really game her aggressively but instead sort of bossed her around and made her help me with my new clothes.
After my clothes had been paid for and I was wearing my fresh new outfit, I stalled for a few minutes and literally waited inside my dressing room until she was by herself outside. When all the other employees left, I exited the changing room and found her folding clothes by herself..
me: monica, what do you think?
her: that looks good
me: thank you, im sorry i haven't had a chance to flirt with you as much as I wanted to
her: oh haha your funny
me: well i was busy getting these clothes but you do look very nice today
her: oh thanks
me: why don't we talk later and maybe i can take take you put for a drink sometime
her: okay
me: i don't wanna get you trouble
I take my phone out.
her: don't worry, my number is xxx-xxxx
me: ok got it, ill text you soon
her: k
Westcoast and I exit the store get back to our search for approachable women and new clothes.
****
We get to Nordstroms, Westcoast begins looking at some high end shirts, I look for girls. I quickly see a cute latina walking by herself, she is headed straight in my direction, when she gets close, I say..
me: hi excuse me
her: ya
me: you look great today
She looked at me with some suspicion. She could probably tell that I was saying the same thing to 100 other girls.
her: thanks
me: what are you shopping for?
her: just browsing
me: wanna help me shop?
her: im with my boyfriend
She points to her boyfriend who is standing right behind me and has been listening to the while conversation.
I walk away as fast as possible.
*****
10 minutes later, Westcoast and I are headed down an escalator, there are two 7.5's behind us, one of them is holding a little box that looks like food..
me: is that pizza?
She didn't respond.
I wanted to ask her if she spoke english but it was a little crowded so I just decided to move on.
*****
We walk over to Uniqlo. WC searches for shirts, I see a beautiful white girl leaving the store. I leave right behind her and catch up to her..
me: excuse me
her: yes
me: i just passed you leaving uniqlo, you look great today, whats your name?
her: stefanie
me: nice to meet you, im gio
her: hi gio
me: are you from around here?
her: well, i live here now but im from oregon
me: i no wonder you look so healthy
her: haha
me: listen, i know its crazy but can i call you and flirt with you sometime?
her: oh sorry gio, i have a boyfreind
Next!
*****
10 minutes later, we are walking down the street, I see a sexy mediterranean girl. It's busy so I step into her path and grab her arm..
me: hey whats up
She turns and smiles. She liked it.
For some stupid reason, I keep walking.
I should have stopped and moved in her direction and continued trying to chat with her! Fuck!
*****
3 minutes later, I see a hot easten european girl, trying to make up for my previous mistake, I immediately stop,turn, and walk with her..
hey whats up you look nice today
her: thanks, i have a boyfriend
Next!
*****
Westcoast generously buys me dinner.
I love the passion, dedication, imagination, and focus of that young playboy!
We part ways around 6pm.
I text a few girl who I have approached in the last 2 weeks.
I ended up going out on a little date with the girl from this approach:
Quote: (02-14-2014 10:28 PM)Giovonny Wrote:
I park me car and walk onto campus, I immediately see a cute black girl in yoga pants..
I walk at an angle that allow are paths to cross, when I get past her about one step, I say..
me: i love your hair, you got alot going on up there but it all comes together nice
her: oh thank you
me: that one french braid is what makes it
her: you think so
me: yup, do you have class right now
her: yeah on my way right now
me: what do you study?
her: fashion design
me: you look like a fashion person
her: i do?
me: ya
her: haha
me: do you have a a little accent?
her: oh maybe im from indiana
me: your a hoosier
her: yes
me; i thought i heard a little mid western twang
her: ha, hey im about to go in here right now.
She points at a building that we passed a a few steps ago. The fact that she didn't stop at the building entrance but instead walked with me about 10 steps lets me know that she like me.
me: ok ill let you go to class, do you wanna text me sometime?
her: oh umm, well, u can text me
me: okay, here is my number call me so i have yours
She call me. We say our goodbyes.
I texted her about 2 hours layer and said -- "how was class? did i spell you name right??? -gio"
she got right back to me. We have been texting off and on all day. We might be going for frozen yougart tonight.
She is 18 years old. Just moved here from Florida. Hot little body and cute face. Date went well and I will be pushing to bang on the next date. She declined my invite to come "watch tv" at my "new" condo and said she shares a room with a roomate so we couldn't hang at her place.
I dropped her off around 1030pm. As I was pulling my car out of her building's parking lot, I saw something in my rear view mirror, a beautiful, young, thin girl wearing thigh high white socks with a little skirt, she had long hair and a gorgeous face. .
She was exiting the building lobby, i immediately stopped my car and walked towards the front of the building. She put her hand up and waved at someone, I thought. I walked right into her path..
me: hello, are you waving at me?
her: oh, hi, no, i was just checking the rain
me: oh i thought you were trying to say hi to me ha
her: haha
me: what are you up to tonight?
her: im just going to see a friend right now
me: are yu walking in this rain/
her: ya
me: you are going to get all wet
her: oh my gosh i know
me: which way are you going? if you're going up towards main street, i can give you a ride if you promise not to murder me
her: oh thanks anyways, i dont mind walking
me: ok, just offering , whats your name
her: kaya
me: what?
her: kaya
me: what kind of name is that?
me; its japanese
her: are you japanese
her: yes half
me: and what else?
her: puerto rican
This young girl was a 9. Beautiful.
We chat for a few more minutes and to make a long story short, I end up driving her to the train station and we texted a little bit that night.
I love this game!
Gio, it's beautiful to hear about you and WestCoast hanging out in San Fran, getting some fresh clothes and grabbing dinner, swapping advice on finance and sober day game, and hitting on hot girls. Two of my favorite guys on the forum having a good time and improving each other's lives. Makes my day!
same old shit, sixes and sevens Shaft...
Stopped by a community college campus on the way to the gym...
I'm rusty as hell. I gotta put some work in now that it's warming up outside. I realized something today though: my ego is finally out of my way. I don't think I was ever really afraid of approaching girls, I think I was afraid of reality. Reality being that my cold approach game has never been good. I was afraid of having to have that honest conversation with myself. I was just really good at going with the flow. With cold approach you kinda have to create the flow, and when it comes to creating the flow with strangers, I'm mediocre at best. Now imagine mediocre game being rusty...that's where I'm at right now lol.
I park the car and look at the campus. It's after 5pm, so the environment isn't very target rich. It's actually pretty dead. As I walk further into campus I see I'm about to cross intersections with a tall black chick. A quick glance reveals she's got this hot lesbian hipster style about her, with full hipster uniform, and lesbian cheek piercings. I hate those piercings, but with that quick glance at her I could see she was an 8 that could easily get another point if she changed clothes and did something about the cheek piercings. Before I had a chance to think I stepped in front of her. She smiled and said "excuse me" and stepped to the side, so I playfully stepped to the side with her, staying in front of her. Then I say "How are you doing?" and she says "I'm doing good. EXCUSE ME." in this alarming tone like she was about to blow the rape whistle lol. I was surprised a white knight didn't jump out and tackle me down. Blow out. I move on feeling good that I got an approach done on an 8 and wasn't nervous or hesitant at all.
I walk around the campus for about 45secs before I spot a set of 3. One of the girls was giving me strong looks, but I wasn't even a little bit attracted to her or her group, so I kept moving. In hindsight, I need all the practice I can get right now, so I should've approached them (and every other undesirable chick I saw) just for the hell of it.
Not seeing any girls outside I want to approach, I decide to check the library. I walk in and look around for someone to hit on. I see a blonde white chicks with her back turned to me. I couldn't see her face, so I kept walking around. I'm seeing nothing but unattractive girls...smh. I spot a book that I'm much more attracted to, so I approach it. It was Odysseus. I have a hard on for Greek mythology, so the book instantly passes the boner test. I open it...but, I don't have time to read it, and can't check it out since I'm not enrolled as a student, so I decide to go see what the blonde looks like.
I pull up a chair next to the blonde (who's typing on her computer) and whisper "hey, what are you studying?". As the word studying falls off my lip, I see her face. Win! You don't see a lot of 9's on a community college campus at 5 in the evening, but I found one. She looked like she could be Candice Swanepoel's younger sister. And I'm fucking whispering...
Her: I'm not studying, I'm writing a speech.
Me: A speech for what?
Her: For speech.
Me: Let me hear it.
Her (shy girl laugh): I'm not finished yet, but I really need to finish. I have to be in class in 45mins.
Me: I'll let you finish, but we should go have drinks sometime.
Her: I don't drink.
Me: What do you do?
Her: I really need to finish this speech.
Me: Alright, what's your name?
Her: Kaitlyn.
Me: I'm ChocolateCockOfZeus. I'll see you around.
Her: See ya. (or something like that)
I walked the campus a little more, but I just wasn't seeing any talent. After a couple laps around I noticed the security guards looking at me. It's much easier to blend in when there's a crowd, but at this time the campus was quiet. I left and went to the gym.
What I got from today:
- I'm not afraid to approach hot girls.
- I need to get out earlier to play the numbers game.
- Momentum for tomorrow.
- Every approach doesn't have to be for pleasure; some can be for practice.
Tomorrow:
- Wake up early.
- Morning routine.
- I'll dress fly.
- Use public transportation/transit and get my approaches in.
- Hit the gym and wing it from there.
Can't be a slave to your ego in this game.
I'm rusty as hell. I gotta put some work in now that it's warming up outside. I realized something today though: my ego is finally out of my way. I don't think I was ever really afraid of approaching girls, I think I was afraid of reality. Reality being that my cold approach game has never been good. I was afraid of having to have that honest conversation with myself. I was just really good at going with the flow. With cold approach you kinda have to create the flow, and when it comes to creating the flow with strangers, I'm mediocre at best. Now imagine mediocre game being rusty...that's where I'm at right now lol.
I park the car and look at the campus. It's after 5pm, so the environment isn't very target rich. It's actually pretty dead. As I walk further into campus I see I'm about to cross intersections with a tall black chick. A quick glance reveals she's got this hot lesbian hipster style about her, with full hipster uniform, and lesbian cheek piercings. I hate those piercings, but with that quick glance at her I could see she was an 8 that could easily get another point if she changed clothes and did something about the cheek piercings. Before I had a chance to think I stepped in front of her. She smiled and said "excuse me" and stepped to the side, so I playfully stepped to the side with her, staying in front of her. Then I say "How are you doing?" and she says "I'm doing good. EXCUSE ME." in this alarming tone like she was about to blow the rape whistle lol. I was surprised a white knight didn't jump out and tackle me down. Blow out. I move on feeling good that I got an approach done on an 8 and wasn't nervous or hesitant at all.
I walk around the campus for about 45secs before I spot a set of 3. One of the girls was giving me strong looks, but I wasn't even a little bit attracted to her or her group, so I kept moving. In hindsight, I need all the practice I can get right now, so I should've approached them (and every other undesirable chick I saw) just for the hell of it.
Not seeing any girls outside I want to approach, I decide to check the library. I walk in and look around for someone to hit on. I see a blonde white chicks with her back turned to me. I couldn't see her face, so I kept walking around. I'm seeing nothing but unattractive girls...smh. I spot a book that I'm much more attracted to, so I approach it. It was Odysseus. I have a hard on for Greek mythology, so the book instantly passes the boner test. I open it...but, I don't have time to read it, and can't check it out since I'm not enrolled as a student, so I decide to go see what the blonde looks like.
I pull up a chair next to the blonde (who's typing on her computer) and whisper "hey, what are you studying?". As the word studying falls off my lip, I see her face. Win! You don't see a lot of 9's on a community college campus at 5 in the evening, but I found one. She looked like she could be Candice Swanepoel's younger sister. And I'm fucking whispering...
Her: I'm not studying, I'm writing a speech.
Me: A speech for what?
Her: For speech.
Me: Let me hear it.
Her (shy girl laugh): I'm not finished yet, but I really need to finish. I have to be in class in 45mins.
Me: I'll let you finish, but we should go have drinks sometime.
Her: I don't drink.
Me: What do you do?
Her: I really need to finish this speech.
Me: Alright, what's your name?
Her: Kaitlyn.
Me: I'm ChocolateCockOfZeus. I'll see you around.
Her: See ya. (or something like that)
I walked the campus a little more, but I just wasn't seeing any talent. After a couple laps around I noticed the security guards looking at me. It's much easier to blend in when there's a crowd, but at this time the campus was quiet. I left and went to the gym.
What I got from today:
- I'm not afraid to approach hot girls.
- I need to get out earlier to play the numbers game.
- Momentum for tomorrow.
- Every approach doesn't have to be for pleasure; some can be for practice.
Tomorrow:
- Wake up early.
- Morning routine.
- I'll dress fly.
- Use public transportation/transit and get my approaches in.
- Hit the gym and wing it from there.
Can't be a slave to your ego in this game.
"What's the difference between us.
We can start at the penis.
Or scream I just don't give a fuck and see who really means it."
- Marshall Bruce Mathers III
Yesterday, community college, 1-2:45pm:
I park and enter campus, I quickly see a thin, feminine white girl lying on her back and reading. I walk over and look at the name of the book she is reading..
me: oh "the giver", i like that book
her: oh hey really?
me: ya what class is that for?
her: its for my english class
me: english language?
her: yes
me: what is your first langauge?
her: oh french
me: french, from france?
her: yes
me: welcome to san francisco, how long have you been here?
her: 6 months
me: wow how do u like it?
her: its amazing
Blah, blah, blah. We talked for almost 15 minutes about her experience in SF and specifically, food, where to get it and where to avoid getting it. It became a sort of "insta-date" because we sat in this little garden in perfect weather.
We were talking about restaurants, farmer markets and places to eat.
Finally, I asked her if she wanted to hang out sometime.
me: wanna hang out and chat again sometime?
She said yes and gave me her number.
I'll text her tomorrow on my way to the market.
*****
I enter the library and see a cute asian girl, clean bright skin, long hair, thin and feminine. I walk right up looking for something to comment on..
me: i love your tassels
her: oh im sorry
me: these tassels on your phone
her: tassels?
me: ya
She didn't know what I was saying. Her English was not that good.
I explained what tassels were on how boxers sometimes where them on their boots. She was from Vietnam and very cute.
her: oh tassels, i will look up that word
me: your phone is so fancy
her: hahaha
me: how are you enjoying sf
her: i like it a lot
I run my usual "tourist game" asking them what they like and don't like, etc.
Finally, after a few minutes of pleasant conversation, I say..
me: do you wanna hang out sometime? maybe get coffee?
her: oh no thank you
Next!
*****
5 minutes later, I am walking through campus. I see a hot little body on a nice white girlI turn and quickly begin walking in her direction. She is texting when I catch up to her, I notice that her phone is broken as I walk past her just one step..
me: time for a new screen on that thing.
her: oh i know, seriously
me: those screens are so fragile sometimes, it sucks
her: i know, i dropped it like 2 feet and it broke
me: what sucks is that a new screen is the same price as new phone
her: ya i have apple care but it only good for 2 fixes and i dont want to waste it on a screen, im gonna wait for something bigger
me: ya thats a good idea. hows class going
her: oh its ok, i have english right now
She turned and started walking up a flight of stairs. I took a few steps in another direction.
me: take care
her: bye
There wasn't much I could do at that point other then chase after her and that didn't seem like a good idea.
Next time I see her, I will re-approach her!
*****
5 minutes later, I see a cute blond in yoga pants, tall, thin, in shape, maybe a volleyball player. I turn and follow her, she stops at a food truck. I walk up a minute later and grab an iced tea..
me: you eat this stuff? how do you stay in such great shape
her: haha it all depends what you get, im just getting a drink today
me: there isn't much quality food around here
her: no there isn't, i usually bring my lunch form home
me: thats always the best thing to do but i do like some of the little asian restaurants on main st. sometimes. Are you a volleyball player?
her: well i used to play but not anymore
me: no how do you stay in shape now?
her: i just surf now
me: oh thats cool, i hope you have a thick wetsuit in these waters
her: you know, i came from hawaii and i just cant get used to this cold water
me: ya you gotta go a little further south and it warms up
her: ya thats what i hear
At this point, we are walking together. We chat a little more about food and surfing. We get to a fork in the road and she goes left while I stay right, I didn't want to force it by going in the same direction as her.
Now, we are basically on opposite sides of the road. We are still talking but we have to raise out voices a bit. The road is widening, she is getting further away, Now, there is like 20 people who can hear our conversation. I don't care, I make my move..
me: hey i wanted to ask you, do you wanna grab a beer or something sometime?
I had to say this with a loud voice. A lot of people heard me. A couple girls looked at me and a few guys looked at her to see her reaction. She was hot so it made good theater for the people watching.
She smiled. I think she was slightly turned on by the fact that so many people were watching and listening..
her: omg im flattered but i dont think my fiance would approve.
A bunch of people turned and looked at me to see how I would respond.
me: oh no, im broken hearted, but i think ill survive
She sort of laughed and was gone into the crowd.
Some black dude made eye contact with me and was nodding his head in approval.
The crowd respected me for boldly asking her out in front of everyone.
I didn't mean to put on a show for everyone, it just happened instinctively. This was an example of the subtleties, complexities, and "drama" that I described earlier in this thread.
I wrote that 2 weeks ago..
I knew I could generate and display much more masculine power.
Asking that pretty blond girl out in front of everyone was an example of my increasing powers. Everyone witnessing it could feel it.
I am getting closer to "The Zone"!!!
*****
5 minutes later, I see another beautiful white girl. yoga pants, long hair, russian looking. I follow her down a flight of steps. I catch up to her and pretend to notice her after a few more steps of walking next to her..
me: is that the new iphone
her: oh no its just a iphone 4
me: oh thats still a really good one
her: oh yes but i need a new one
Blah, blah, blah. She is chatty, which is good. She tells me abou ther phone.
me: you have an accent, where are you from?
her: ukraine
me: wow i see ukraine all over the news, whats going on over there?
her: well, people want a better life
Blah, blah, blah, We talk about Ukrainian politics.
me: how long have you been here in the us?
her: 6 years
We talk about her experience here.
We get to the train station..
me: hey nice talking to you, do you wanna exchange numbers, maybe we can have a beer or something sometime?
her: oh thanks gio but im married
Next!
*****
5 minutes later, I see a cute latina. I slow my walk so we will arrive at the walking path at the same moment. She is wearing a "Lakers" shirt..
me: the lakers!
her: ya you know it!
me: you must be from la
her: yes sir
me: you cant wear that up here
her: i know everyone gives me shit but they know kobe is the best
me: haha its all about curry up here
her: i know but he sucks, did you see the all star game?
me: ya he was tired or something
her: he is too little
I was really impressed with this girls knowledge of basketball.
me: did you play ball
her: um a little in jr high
Blah, blah, blah. We talk hoops. She knows the game.
me: we should shoot around sometime
her: oh no thanks, nice try though
Next!
*****
4 minutes later, I see a cute filapina walking behind me. I slow a little and turn to open her over my shoulder..
me: hey how was class?
her: oh it was ok
me: what did you have?
her: bio
me: oh thats a hard one.
Blah. We talk about school and majors.
me: ok nice talking to you, wanna text me later so i can flirt with you some more and maybe take you for a drink?
her: oh no thanks
Next!
*****
3 minutes later, I see a hot mixed girl, white and asian I think. She is getting into her car..
me: what year is this, i love these mitsubishis
her: oh i think its an 2006
me: these are slick
her: thanks its the only model that i like
me: ya its fit you, haha, sort of futuristic
her: haha
We talk for a minute about cars and science.
me: nice talking to you, wanna talk again sometime, maybe get a beer or something?
her; no thanks im not 21 yet.
me: well, we can make it coffee then
her: um thats ok
Next!
*****
4 minutes later, I see a hot latina, she is walking right past me..
We make a little eye contact and pass each other..
Before I even turn around, I start to loudly say..
me: are you nicaraguan?
I turn to see if she will respond.
She stops and turns and with a surprised smile says..
her: close, im from honduras
A bunch of people witnessed this. Just like the white girl above, I think the fact that approached her in public with people watching turned her on.
We took a few steps towards each other and talked about where she is from, San Francisco, and food.
me: have you tried la cumbre?
her: no i haven't
I asked if she wanted to go out for Central American food. She gave me her number and we began texting an hour or two later.
My first text was -- "mucho gusto gabriela, good luck with your homework, lets go to la cumbre sometime - Gio"
She got right back to me and I will try to set the date for this weekend.
Again, The fact that I was ballsy really a big factor here. If I was quiet and shy, I don't think this approach would have worked so well. I was bold and unapologetic. I approached in front of a lot of people.
My powers are growing with each approach.
I will do 5-10 more today.
I park and enter campus, I quickly see a thin, feminine white girl lying on her back and reading. I walk over and look at the name of the book she is reading..
me: oh "the giver", i like that book
her: oh hey really?
me: ya what class is that for?
her: its for my english class
me: english language?
her: yes
me: what is your first langauge?
her: oh french
me: french, from france?
her: yes
me: welcome to san francisco, how long have you been here?
her: 6 months
me: wow how do u like it?
her: its amazing
Blah, blah, blah. We talked for almost 15 minutes about her experience in SF and specifically, food, where to get it and where to avoid getting it. It became a sort of "insta-date" because we sat in this little garden in perfect weather.
We were talking about restaurants, farmer markets and places to eat.
Finally, I asked her if she wanted to hang out sometime.
me: wanna hang out and chat again sometime?
She said yes and gave me her number.
I'll text her tomorrow on my way to the market.
*****
I enter the library and see a cute asian girl, clean bright skin, long hair, thin and feminine. I walk right up looking for something to comment on..
me: i love your tassels
her: oh im sorry
me: these tassels on your phone
her: tassels?
me: ya
She didn't know what I was saying. Her English was not that good.
I explained what tassels were on how boxers sometimes where them on their boots. She was from Vietnam and very cute.
her: oh tassels, i will look up that word
me: your phone is so fancy
her: hahaha
me: how are you enjoying sf
her: i like it a lot
I run my usual "tourist game" asking them what they like and don't like, etc.
Finally, after a few minutes of pleasant conversation, I say..
me: do you wanna hang out sometime? maybe get coffee?
her: oh no thank you
Next!
*****
5 minutes later, I am walking through campus. I see a hot little body on a nice white girlI turn and quickly begin walking in her direction. She is texting when I catch up to her, I notice that her phone is broken as I walk past her just one step..
me: time for a new screen on that thing.
her: oh i know, seriously
me: those screens are so fragile sometimes, it sucks
her: i know, i dropped it like 2 feet and it broke
me: what sucks is that a new screen is the same price as new phone
her: ya i have apple care but it only good for 2 fixes and i dont want to waste it on a screen, im gonna wait for something bigger
me: ya thats a good idea. hows class going
her: oh its ok, i have english right now
She turned and started walking up a flight of stairs. I took a few steps in another direction.
me: take care
her: bye
There wasn't much I could do at that point other then chase after her and that didn't seem like a good idea.
Next time I see her, I will re-approach her!
*****
5 minutes later, I see a cute blond in yoga pants, tall, thin, in shape, maybe a volleyball player. I turn and follow her, she stops at a food truck. I walk up a minute later and grab an iced tea..
me: you eat this stuff? how do you stay in such great shape
her: haha it all depends what you get, im just getting a drink today
me: there isn't much quality food around here
her: no there isn't, i usually bring my lunch form home
me: thats always the best thing to do but i do like some of the little asian restaurants on main st. sometimes. Are you a volleyball player?
her: well i used to play but not anymore
me: no how do you stay in shape now?
her: i just surf now
me: oh thats cool, i hope you have a thick wetsuit in these waters
her: you know, i came from hawaii and i just cant get used to this cold water
me: ya you gotta go a little further south and it warms up
her: ya thats what i hear
At this point, we are walking together. We chat a little more about food and surfing. We get to a fork in the road and she goes left while I stay right, I didn't want to force it by going in the same direction as her.
Now, we are basically on opposite sides of the road. We are still talking but we have to raise out voices a bit. The road is widening, she is getting further away, Now, there is like 20 people who can hear our conversation. I don't care, I make my move..
me: hey i wanted to ask you, do you wanna grab a beer or something sometime?
I had to say this with a loud voice. A lot of people heard me. A couple girls looked at me and a few guys looked at her to see her reaction. She was hot so it made good theater for the people watching.
She smiled. I think she was slightly turned on by the fact that so many people were watching and listening..
her: omg im flattered but i dont think my fiance would approve.
A bunch of people turned and looked at me to see how I would respond.
me: oh no, im broken hearted, but i think ill survive
She sort of laughed and was gone into the crowd.
Some black dude made eye contact with me and was nodding his head in approval.
The crowd respected me for boldly asking her out in front of everyone.
I didn't mean to put on a show for everyone, it just happened instinctively. This was an example of the subtleties, complexities, and "drama" that I described earlier in this thread.
Quote: (02-12-2014 10:37 PM)Giovonny Wrote:
At this point, I feel pretty good. My confidence is strong and I am not hesitating much at all.
But, I can feel that my game is very elementary, it lacks the subtleties and complexities that make approaching a social art form.The little looks, the little jokes, the dramatic pauses, the word play, the double entendres, etc.
I can still display a lot more wit, power, and masculine energy.
I wrote that 2 weeks ago..
I knew I could generate and display much more masculine power.
Asking that pretty blond girl out in front of everyone was an example of my increasing powers. Everyone witnessing it could feel it.
I am getting closer to "The Zone"!!!
*****
5 minutes later, I see another beautiful white girl. yoga pants, long hair, russian looking. I follow her down a flight of steps. I catch up to her and pretend to notice her after a few more steps of walking next to her..
me: is that the new iphone
her: oh no its just a iphone 4
me: oh thats still a really good one
her: oh yes but i need a new one
Blah, blah, blah. She is chatty, which is good. She tells me abou ther phone.
me: you have an accent, where are you from?
her: ukraine
me: wow i see ukraine all over the news, whats going on over there?
her: well, people want a better life
Blah, blah, blah, We talk about Ukrainian politics.
me: how long have you been here in the us?
her: 6 years
We talk about her experience here.
We get to the train station..
me: hey nice talking to you, do you wanna exchange numbers, maybe we can have a beer or something sometime?
her: oh thanks gio but im married
Next!
*****
5 minutes later, I see a cute latina. I slow my walk so we will arrive at the walking path at the same moment. She is wearing a "Lakers" shirt..
me: the lakers!
her: ya you know it!
me: you must be from la
her: yes sir
me: you cant wear that up here
her: i know everyone gives me shit but they know kobe is the best
me: haha its all about curry up here
her: i know but he sucks, did you see the all star game?
me: ya he was tired or something
her: he is too little
I was really impressed with this girls knowledge of basketball.
me: did you play ball
her: um a little in jr high
Blah, blah, blah. We talk hoops. She knows the game.
me: we should shoot around sometime
her: oh no thanks, nice try though
Next!
*****
4 minutes later, I see a cute filapina walking behind me. I slow a little and turn to open her over my shoulder..
me: hey how was class?
her: oh it was ok
me: what did you have?
her: bio
me: oh thats a hard one.
Blah. We talk about school and majors.
me: ok nice talking to you, wanna text me later so i can flirt with you some more and maybe take you for a drink?
her: oh no thanks
Next!
*****
3 minutes later, I see a hot mixed girl, white and asian I think. She is getting into her car..
me: what year is this, i love these mitsubishis
her: oh i think its an 2006
me: these are slick
her: thanks its the only model that i like
me: ya its fit you, haha, sort of futuristic
her: haha
We talk for a minute about cars and science.
me: nice talking to you, wanna talk again sometime, maybe get a beer or something?
her; no thanks im not 21 yet.
me: well, we can make it coffee then
her: um thats ok
Next!
*****
4 minutes later, I see a hot latina, she is walking right past me..
We make a little eye contact and pass each other..
Before I even turn around, I start to loudly say..
me: are you nicaraguan?
I turn to see if she will respond.
She stops and turns and with a surprised smile says..
her: close, im from honduras
A bunch of people witnessed this. Just like the white girl above, I think the fact that approached her in public with people watching turned her on.
We took a few steps towards each other and talked about where she is from, San Francisco, and food.
me: have you tried la cumbre?
her: no i haven't
I asked if she wanted to go out for Central American food. She gave me her number and we began texting an hour or two later.
My first text was -- "mucho gusto gabriela, good luck with your homework, lets go to la cumbre sometime - Gio"
She got right back to me and I will try to set the date for this weekend.
Again, The fact that I was ballsy really a big factor here. If I was quiet and shy, I don't think this approach would have worked so well. I was bold and unapologetic. I approached in front of a lot of people.
My powers are growing with each approach.
I will do 5-10 more today.
Quote: (02-16-2014 08:30 PM)Giovonny Wrote:
Quote: (02-15-2014 09:29 AM)Lukkkkkas Wrote:
...well this is the kind of approach suitable for an adolescent or a guy in its early 20 s. For a mature man there is the risk of being ridiculous.
I actually don't mind being "ridiculous".
Honestly, the more ridiculous I am, the more hot, young, pussy I get.
Quote: (02-15-2014 02:48 PM)Lukkkkkas Wrote:
What may work for a 20 yo dealing with an 18 yo, would be ridiculous for a 30 + or 40 +.
by a more subtle approach, less risky and more suited for a mature dude.
I don't like the conservative approach. It's boring for me.
I like the aggressive, sexual, approach. That's more fun!
To each their own.
Quote: (02-15-2014 06:47 AM)pitt Wrote:
Yeah Gio I had a feeling you were not writing down every single thing you said to these girls.
I completely understand your non verbal game strategy. I had days where I said cheesy lines to girls and I still got laid. I think how you say it and how you carry yourself always beats what you say. Girls know who is getting laid just by looking at you and listening you talk for few secs.
I also try to make my interactions short. I have rolled with forum guys with good game but they wasted a lot of time in girls they were not interested in. I would ask them ''why are you talking all this time to this girl if you are not interested? Time is money''..I guess they were doing for building momentum..but fuck it..building momentum to me is approaching different girls and invest time in those who are looking to get fucked.
Exactly!
Where do you normally go to day game in SF if you don't me asking? I live like an hour away and have never visited SF
Gio i read all your appraoches and you always get the latina and black girls. have you calculated your success with each type of girl maybe theres a pattern there?
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