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06-04-2012, 12:31 PM
I'm among the many who is utterly tired of the left slinging 'sexist' and 'racist' at everything, but now it seems half of the comments left on his posts are all ridicuous screeds against "race mixing" and intellectual gems such as "wake up white man"?
Even Roissy himself points out the fact that white women are the most 'racist' when it comes to dating outside their race, but that doesn't do much to quell the stupidity I'm starting to see crop up in his comments section.
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06-04-2012, 12:47 PM
I like reading Roissy, but sometimes as a black man, I can't get over the latent internet racism that is magnified in the comment section of his site. Notice on the internet (and manosphere too), everytime a guys GF cheats on him, he almost always mentions it was a black guy if she cheated with a black guy. They never say she cheated with a white guy or Asian guy. They only mention race when its a black guy. Not to mention, how every girl who sleeps with a black guy gets labeled a slut and how she is damaged goods.
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06-04-2012, 12:53 PM
I barely read Roissy as he's become rather repetitive.
Same goes for IMF, which is closing down. Stopped reading IMF almost a year ago.
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06-04-2012, 01:03 PM
Just my humble opinion, but the Heartiste blog became unreadable some time ago. I don't know who's running the show over there now, but I doubt it's the original Roissy. Whoever is doing most of the writing now has a very definite political agenda and it's somewhat of a contrast from the original Roissy, who had a certain apolitical nonchalance.
The post themselves aren't always bad, but the writing hasn't really evolved. If you want to read Roissy, I suggest you start at the archives and work your way forward. You can judge for yourself how long it continues to add value.
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06-04-2012, 01:28 PM
Roissy breaks down game to its genetic/biological/evolutionary foundation.
All other human behaviors and cultures are governed in large part by the same foundation. Race is no exception.
Plus, I don't think Roissy explicitly said his blog was solely reserved for game. His site is were 'Where Pretty Lies Perish' after all. The idea that race is social construct definitely is a pretty lie. Lulz
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06-04-2012, 01:34 PM
When it is all boiled down, males don't want any competition in getting sexual access to women. Lots of men find White women the most attractive so it makes sense for local men to try to limit as many competitors for them. Regardless of race, I would much rather be the only male in a room full of women. I'm sure all of us would support hot women immigrants than male immigrants. Even here on the forum, we are all looking for Poosy Paradises where the competition is lower for the most attractive women. We are all looking for an edge. Being "exotic" is good in getting women.
I am neither here nor there. Just my .02 on the White Nationalism thing with White PUAs
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06-04-2012, 01:41 PM
Here's the other thing. Roissy's blog always got a strange mix of players and frustrated betas. The players tend not to care too much about race, but for the frustrated betas it becomes just another way that society has failed them.
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06-04-2012, 02:38 PM
I reject the notion that race is just skin or a social construct, because it's clearly much more than that. Still wouldn't construct an entire ideology around it while making a fool out of myself. It comes off as so insecure.
I did see a Stormfront thread where a girl posted she had an asian bf before her "awakening" and they were pretty harsh on her as well.
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06-04-2012, 02:42 PM
HBD and Game are natural extensions of each other.
Supporting one and not the other is illogical. In some sense, hypocritical, I daresay.
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06-04-2012, 02:55 PM
I remember an old Roosh post when he bashed liberals and went on and on about how he was an enemy of the Southern Poverty Law Center...that sealed the deal linking the two in my mind. Steve Sailer is probably enemy #1 of the SPLC.
The spreading of the manosphere is intertwined with the white nationalist agenda. Both criticize social developments of the 1960's. Both criticize the welfare state. Both believe in nature over nurture.
The problem is that once you take on the attitude that the elites and the media have lied to you about male-female relations, it is only normal that that skepticism will next target the other pillar of modern liberalism.
The spreading of game ideas, once divorced from the hollywood propaganda of mystery and Ross Jeffries, and instead based on pure evolutionary psychology, will have deep consequences for society...beyond the fact that you'll need ever higher levels of game to compete.
Tread carefully...especially now that we see game concepts increasingly penetrating society.
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06-04-2012, 03:07 PM
I won't get into an extended discussion on this issue, first, because I came here specifically for game; second, because I do not know Roosh's and the moderators' attitudes to HBD issues.
That said, I do want to get one thing very clear: HBD and WN might have overlap, but they are mostly definitely not the same thing. HBD is based on numerous empirical observations, most importantly in psychometrics, and the evidence for it has been meticulously documented in The Bell Curve by Murray and Herrnstein, a book which has been groundlessly maligned. Herrnstein, by the way, is a Jew, so obviously no WN there.
Let me make an analogy. HBD to WN is like, say, Game to outright misogyny (e.g., support for honor killings, stoning for adultery, end of female suffrage, etc).
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06-04-2012, 03:14 PM
I kind of agree. I mean, the fact that race is continuous does not mean race doesn't exist. That's like saying color doesn't exist because the light spectrum blends together. There's absolute proof you can tell someone's race not only by their bones, but by their blood. It affects their reaction times, hormone levels, and disease vulnerability.
If 'race' is an icky word, we can use the phrase 'population groups' or 'ethnic groups'. And honestly, are white and asians slightly more intelligent on average when you compensate for socio-economic status? Probably. But why would you want to generalize that to individuals? I know way too many stupid shitty white people and too many cool black people to care that much.