[GillesDeleuze]

@Fogg The problem with Poland compared to Ukraine is not that there aren't enough hot girls, but it is that the hottest Polish girls don't give a shit about a good looking foreigner who has zero connection with local social circles and doesn't speak the language

Spanish and latin guys in polish klubs get the lower quality girls, the so called foreign-groupies, Krakow is the perfect example of this.

[Rocha]

Ukraine will never be pussy paradise for Polish guys since all or most of them can only use caveman style and have no game, since it is what they are used to in Poland.

Ukrainian guys have a much better understanding of female mentality. Rarely a Polish dude will be a match for a Ukrainian one.

[Giacomo Casanova]

@fogg: to summarize, Polish guys don't need going to nightclubs, they have already plenty of girls available (despite lack of game, look, money) that will be ready to be with them just for the simple fact of appearing a minimum serious about a LTR. For the foreigners it is another story, you need to be in the top 10% to have some residual chance to shag attractive girls. I have to say that lately the situation is getting a bit better and August is good in Poland due to the absense of the Erasmus guys. About looks, we all know that Ukrainian girls take care of themselves more than Polish ones.

@Rocha: I know some Polish guys who are together with Ukrainian girls, but it is happening in Poland where plenty of Ukrainian girls emigrated. It is not the absense of game as you mention the weak point, if you apply slavic direct game you will go further compared with the clown game of the average AngloSaxon guy and this works in Ukraine as well as in Poland. Critical point for the Polish might be the lack of money to maintain Ukrainian girls, compared to the Westerners who are willing to spend tons of cash in order to shag a girl in Ukraine.

[Fogg]

(08-13-2017 12:25 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

Ukraine will never be pussy paradise for Polish guys since all or most of them can only use caveman style and have no game, since it is what they are used to in Poland.

Ukrainian guys have a much better understanding of female mentality. Rarely a Polish dude will be a match for a Ukrainian one.

Yes, of course, in general you are right. But lets be honest, if you dont have game, no country will ever be pussy paradise for you, no matter where you are from. And yes, most Polish guys dont have game.
But I am Polish and while I did not grow up there, I do feel that it gave me some advantage while gaming in Kiev.

Just the fact that I can weed out the gold diggers by simply saying "I am from Poland" was a big time saver.

[Fogg]

(08-13-2017 01:45 PM)Giacomo Casanova Wrote:  

@fogg: to summarize, Polish guys don't need going to nightclubs, they have already plenty of girls available (despite lack of game, look, money) that will be ready to be with them just for the simple fact of appearing a minimum serious about a LTR. For the foreigners it is another story, you need to be in the top 10% to have some residual chance to shag attractive girls. I have to say that lately the situation is getting a bit better and August is good in Poland due to the absense of the Erasmus guys. About looks, we all know that Ukrainian girls take care of themselves more than Polish ones.

Well I might go back to Poland to give it another try. But Kiev just blew my mind quality-wise, that if I am going on another East Europe trip, I might just stick with Ukraine.

Also, coming back to the topic of this thread, I just love Kiev. I found that city highly enjoyable in pretty much all aspects.

[Chinoqio]

Coming to Kiev from june 5th and on, anyone will be there ?

[superiorClimber]

(11-18-2016 11:33 AM)jabba Wrote:  

(09-30-2016 08:44 PM)jasond Wrote:  

I had a friend who used http://www.dobovo.com with good results.

Thanks for sharing. I'm using Dobovo and saved 50%+ vs. Airbnb.

Even better, if you are able to read russian or ukrainian or talk a local woman into helping you find a place, OLX is the way to go. It's the local classified website - comparable to Craigslist in the US. Prices are even lower than Dobovo - 50-70% lower.

[sync]

(08-13-2017 12:25 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

Ukraine will never be pussy paradise for Polish guys since all or most of them can only use caveman style and have no game, since it is what they are used to in Poland.

Ukrainian guys have a much better understanding of female mentality. Rarely a Polish dude will be a match for a Ukrainian one.

The Ukrainian guys have ZERO style. I was in Kiev, I mean, that's the capital. I do not want to know what it looks like in smaller cities.
Compared to Polish guys, they are 20 years behind.

[sync]

(08-13-2017 11:48 AM)Fogg Wrote:  

"...don't see many Polish guys hunting in Ukraine since they are surrounded in Poland by gorgeous and attractive girls."

I have to disagree with that to some extent. Yes, there are still a a lot of hot girls in Poland, but that number is decreasing. I was recently in Poland and found nightgame fun, but very disappointing when it comes to the quality of women. Plus, Latin guys are ruining the place.
On the other hand Ukraine is paradise: 7+ everywhere, no Latinos and even if there are Girls don't seem to respond to their approaches.
I am sorry to say, but Polish women have lost me

No latinos, but hordes of turks in kiev. What is better?

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(06-09-2018 10:19 AM)sync Wrote:  

(08-13-2017 12:25 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

Ukraine will never be pussy paradise for Polish guys since all or most of them can only use caveman style and have no game, since it is what they are used to in Poland.

Ukrainian guys have a much better understanding of female mentality. Rarely a Polish dude will be a match for a Ukrainian one.

The Ukrainian guys have ZERO style. I was in Kiev, I mean, that's the capital. I do not want to know what it looks like in smaller cities.
Compared to Polish guys, they are 20 years behind.

Well they dress smartly, even if their clothes are not high end designer. Better than American guys who visit wearing cargo shorts, t shirts, cheap baggy jeans and baseball caps. Show some respect, it's a poor country, and plenty of them will do better than you, style or no style

Of course they are 20 years behind, Poland was like Ukraine 20 years ago

[Establishment]

I am going to spend at least the month of July 2018 in Kiev. My focus is on fitness - joined a boxing club for the month and have arranged for coached fitness sessions four times a week.

But in between that, I need to gain some experience... I am back on the market after many, many sad years in a relationship. Anyone in Kiev? I have little day game skills, used to be okay at night game, but am planning to develop a strong social circle game. Have been pipelining with some potentially decent leads.

[Nicknack]

Yes I will be there August 3rd through the 22nd

[exitus]

Kiev might be the best summer spot on the planet. Dirt cheap + hot girls? What's not to like.

[Papa Hemingway]

(06-26-2018 10:37 PM)exitus Wrote:  

Kiev might be the best summer spot on the planet. Dirt cheap + hot girls? What's not to like.

Do you speak Russian or Ukrainian.? If not there is a high possibility you might not like it.

I used to ask some friends if you had the choice would you rather have your dick or balls chopped off.?

In off the beaten path Eastern European locations like Ukraine if you do not speak the language or know the culture it'll be like walking around with your dick chopped off.

Loads of beautiful women and functional testosterone producing testicles but no communication skills which will result in dry dick syndrome or DDS.

[Feyoder]

I am in kiev at the moment. Send me a PM if you're here.

[Henny]

You have to wonder if Kiev and Ukraine are dead for most gamers - most girls who learn English do so for a reason, to get out of the country, now they can travel to most places in Europe and they just need to flash their eyelids at a guy and he'll marry her or give her a job. The girls left in Ukraine will chiefly be the non English speaking types who will marry a local monkey, unless the foreigner has fluent Russian and money, which most foreign gamers don't both of

[Endless Escapes]

(07-04-2018 04:04 AM)Henny Wrote:  

...a guy and he'll marry her or give her a job....

She can give me a blow job

[Ivan59]

Gonna be in Kiev from 15 to 18 FEB. Speak fluent Russian and spent all of 2016 living/ working in this city.

Message me if anyone is down to meet up or go to Chi or something.