The United Kingdom really sucks?
06-06-2011, 12:31 PM
I grew up in the UK, South London to be exact. I wouldn't go to any other part of UK personally as London was the most multicultural. Whenever I went to other parts of UK, I realised what it is like if one grows up as a minority. Never felt like a minority in London.
Now personally, I've had the fortune to have travelled widely. I have fam dispersed all over the U.S, some family friends situated in Canada (which I leveraged to position myself here) and I have fam in the Caribbean and Afrique.
Contrasting ALL of these environments, I find London to be severely inferior. Standard of living does not MATCH up to Canada or the U.S. I have friends and fam that were born and bred in the U.K, they leveraged me as the first opportunity to fly into North America and all were wow'ed by the standard of living I have.
Bear in mind, I am not balling. I don't have a whip, I am renting but just the basic necessities that I have totally overwhelm theirs in the UK (they all drive and are mortgaging a tiny house).
CONS TO THE UK
I can only give you my account of London as I did not grow up outside of London, never lived outside of London and to be honest, I had no interest in living outside of London.
As my mum aptly stated, the thing about the UK is that the only place that is really jumping in DIFFERENT avenues is London. There are no other major cities (unless things have changed) that even compare.
As a quick comparison, you have multiple cities in the U.S where you can get things 'popping' i.e. Miami, NYC, LA. Chicago, Houston etc)
I used to go to Liverpool often for summers to visit fam. Every time people heard I was from London, they would swarm me like I were John from the Beatles.
For Canada, you have Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver that can hold their own.
Now...
For you guys (and gal) that grew up in warm sunny countries, you will find the British weather oppressive and depressing. As rudebwoy stated in the other thread, winter months can result in days without seeing sunshine. People used to sunny weather especially those with darker complexions i.e Latin people, Afro people will suffer from SADS (Seasonal Affect Disorder Syndrome).
They become moany, complain and gripe with huge chips on their shoulder. Sense of humour lies in seeing someone else suffer and get hurt.
Yes, they are obsessed with sex. Most of the jokes involve wanking, spunking, wanking, shagging, arse etc. For those of you from countries where sex is no sweat but part of the culture you will find that people will target you only to fcuk you and then after that, they move on.
My Danish friend found that out quickly when she dated seven or more guys. She fcuked them all (casually) and after that found out the guys wanted no more to do with her. The relationships with women (in London) didn't seem to expand much further than just wanting to fcuk (very small minded).
All people wanted to do was get drunk (lean), or smoke 'sum ting' and fcuk a gyal.
That was a LunnPoly for the guys.
So many people would smoke and spit, spit. So much spitting in London. Nasty.
Dirty streets. No enforced anti-litter campaign. The amount of time I stepped in dog shyt was unbelievable.
EXPENSIVE
You pay for everything. Transport is expensive, petrol is expensive, car etc. With this in mind, you will find that people will be constantly aware of how much it costs. Let's say you want someone to drop you off somewhere. They might drop you off at a bus stop because they are very cognizant of petrol prices.
Take some friends out for a dinner. 60 bucks (quid if you are in the UK) will NOT get you the same quality that you would get if you were to pay for that in a restauraunt in Toronto or some city in the U.S.
For Pete's sake, last time I was there, there was a restauraunt charging 15 pounds for a plate of roaches and other associated vermin!!
If you rent, you have to pay housing tax, you have to pay for a tv license, you pay for every unit of electricity and gas that you use.
This means what one might be used to in North America, coming home and running all sorts of electrical appliances will be disproved of in the UK because these will all eat your bill.
Many days I came home forgetting how much I had put on the gas meter, to light the stove to warm up some baked beans and find out the stove wouldn't light.
Why? Because I'd run out of gas and I had to go to the petrol station to top up my card.
There was no free outgoing phone calls (all incoming are free whether you have a mobile or a house phone). So pillow talk will run ya pockets (if you initiate the call).
I heard of a lot of robberies when I grew up, mainly behind the Stanley knife but they have now graduating to guns.
Good things about U.K.
You meet a large variety of intelligent people there. The general level of intelligence is higher there compared to... With scarcity in materials, you have to be really sharp in order to get a job. Just going for a temp job, they want to know what you got in your GCSE's (a UK equivalent of the North American GED except it is completed by 15 or 16 years old at latest).
If you don't have those qualifications, forget it, hit the construction site or something.
Even game, I was FORCED to step it up to get some pussy. I was on redpoint and wasn't going to get NO pussy being beta so I came to a point and said fcuk it. I saw all sorts of guys banging lizards around and I said..fcuk dat, I have nothing else to look forward to and I copied what I saw which was road game (a big part of South London).
I got less flakes in the U.K. If a woman didn't want you, she might just say so or be kinder and say she doesn't have a phone right now.
I remember one woman that was just cussing out my best wingman after we just finished at the Ministry of Sound.
Here in Toronto, she would have smiled at him and given him her real number (and never picked up when he calls).
I think due to the fact that there it is expensive in London, if a woman links you, she will most likely test out the sex. If she doesn't like you and doesn't give you the pum, she will NOT go out with you again. It's not worth wasting her time and yours.
Torontonians will encourage beta-ism and happily 'date' a guy for months with no intimacy.
In London, I'd never gone to a woman's place or have her come to mine in private and not been able to hide the sausage. And I'm not saying because my game was super tight, that's just how the UK mentality is.
They are less anal than North America are about things such as minor criminal offences. I often knew of assaults between grown adults with no charges. My wingman went through a series of weeks where he was assaulted by the bouncer one week, a woman the next week and no charges were brought up.
There, the Feds generally used their common sense. They know that peoplewill have a disagreement at times and will let certain things slide to a certain level.
Here in North America, you breathe on someone the wrong way, they report it, you are charged and you have a record and then you are fcuked.
You can drink alcohol on the streets. They will only card you if you blatantly look under 18 (in London). Smaller cities you can get a drink if you are 14 if you so wish.
Here in Canada, they don't card me but they give me this silly brown bag to keep my alcohol in???!! When I first moved here, I was holding my rum and drinking it in my hand (fcuk a brown bag!!) the way I always do in London and I was getting funny looks. Then I remembered from the movies, that peeps always used to keep that bullshit covered up.
As previously said, you can travel to other European cities for the price of piss (which is nothing) compared to Canada which is the North American rape central of travelling.
I went return to Paris via ferry and coach for 20 quid. I did Amsterdam return (coach) on 60 quid.
My friend flies from Denmark to London return for about 8 quid or sometimes 4 quid.
One of my friends will do a return to Bulgaria for about 40 quid if he is tired of the London B.S.
So, with the right mindset, you can really experience and enjoy Europe by living in London.
The sterling is still powerful on a global scene so you can actually send that money back home and get your people to open up a stall, or build a house because as long as you keep that money in the UK, you will NEVER get the same return you would on a global scene.
I know one cat who did the smart thing and built a house in Jamrock using the pounds so he can retire without all that landtax shyt etc that Lizzie likes to do to fund her handwaving campaign.
Also, if you stay in the UK for a decade, you get citizenship. I know two guys that hung around for that frame and finally got their maroon books.
I know you can live in the US for a million centuries and they will tell you to fcuk off unless you get the papers the right way.
Canada is fairly similar although Canada is more lenient on how many peeps they let in (after all, there are taxis to be driven and who better than a qualified heart surgeon?).
So those are the pros and cons from an insider (now outside).
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