Quote: (11-05-2013 08:32 PM)Valhalla Wrote:
Just so you guys know those generics could really have ANYTHING in them. I doubt the Chinese company working those mixers really gives a fuck about mixing the ingredients in clean mixers so there could be residues from all sorts of drugs. I doubt the material is pure or real as advertised. It's probably all fake and harmless at best or dangerous or designer drugs at worse
As for herbs it was recently found most of them had fake ingredients as per nytimes article
He'll even protein made in the US has less protein than advertised and was found to contain toxic metals
When it comes to this stuff you could really be injesting anything
Do you trust some random Chinese or Indian factory? I don't
Val:
You make some good points; however, you are making them in a very broad and general way. Guys make leaps of faith with all kinds of products that we ingest: food, drugs and supplements. For example, even though statin drugs are regulated and sold by name branded industries, the whole idea and practice of taking statins is a major scam.
Believe me, I get what you are saying about the non regulation and inability to know exactly what is in some products and it is worse for generics; however, I believe that part of the goals in having these discussions about dick pills and even discussing the possibility of creating a list is for guys to become better informed about various brands of these products.
Just b/c something is manufactured or sold in a foreign country, does NOT necessarily mean that it is generic or that it is NOT going to work. Various brands get established, manufactured and sold in various countries, and that establishment may be based on people believing in that brand or product and sometimes it may be a scam.
Certainly, personally, I am worried about taking various dick pills - whether it be Cialis or Viagra or various knock offs, and I am also worried about potentially taking testosterone or steroids. So far in life, I have never taken any of these kinds of products (except for a short term many years ago, I took some local steroids for asthma); however, as I get older and into my late 40s and thereafter, I wonder whether it may be helpful in a variety of ways to potentially increase performance, pleasure and even muscle mass, in some cases. There are a lot of positive reports about several of these kinds of man enhancing products.
Val: Do you have a specific product in mind that you want to point out or are you merely denigrating generics in the general sense?
And, yes, I research, contemplate and consider the upside versus the downside in making my decision regarding which of these to take and when or if to start and in what dosages. There are a lot of positive reports from guys regarding these kinds of man enhancing products, and some of the positive reports about these products regard brand names and some regard non-name brands and some guys are o.k. with generics. If I start to take some of these products, I would hope that my body would know whether the drug or the supplement is really doing something positive for me, as compared with a placebo, and yes we cannot always be confident about long-term negative side effects and that is the risk that goes along with it, and the risk is likely gonna be lessened by paying attention to ones body and researching and maybe also not jumping in too deeply - however, in the end, sometimes, we make choices that are NOT correct and we suffer accordingly.
I am pretty sure that I am going to take one of these man enhancing drugs and/or supplements when I am in the Phils in the near future b/c I expect that the frequency of my banging is going to be going up, and i am going to need something (besides exercise, diet and sleep) in order to keep up. However, if I can continue to have erections without taking various man enhancing supplements, then maybe I will NOT pursue that direction. You likely have heard variations of the joke about the guy considering taking dick pills to bang his wife and his claim that he only needs them in order to bang his wife but he does NOT need them to bang young girls. In that regard, I may NOT need them; however, we all know that when we travel and when we are moving through strange locations, our environment may affect our performance in a variety of ways (also affecting our diet, exercise and rest).
Four more viagara jokes:
1) A man goes into the chemist and asks for some viagra. ’Have you got a prescription,’ the chemist asks him. ’No, but will a picture of my wife do?’ the man says.
2) Soon after the revolutionary new drug, Viagra, launched, rumors began to spread of the drug’s possible side effects, the most serious of which may include blindness. The rumors however, have shown no signs of depressing the sales of the miracle drug. When asked about the resilience of the product’s reputation, Viagra representatives responded “Well, we’ve conducted our own studies here at Pfizer, and our data shows that blindness isn’t a huge consideration for our customers seeing how most of them would rather not see the person they’re sleeping with.”
3) A woman asks her husband. “Would you like some breakfast? I can go fix you an omelet or something.”
“No it’s okay, the Viagra’s really ruined my appetite”
At lunch time, she asks her husband again “How about some chili for lunch? I know how you love chili with crackers.”
“No thank you dear, I’m still not hungry, Viagra takes away my hunger. I know I should eat but I just can’t.”
When dinner time rolls around, she asks her husband “How about some salmon for dinner? I could go and put them on the grill right now. It wouldn’t take long and besides, you really should eat something.”
“I’m sorry baby, I’m just not hungry.”
“Well in that case, would you mind getting off of me so I can get something to eat? I’m freaking starving!”
4) The reason old men use Viagra is not that they are impotent. It's that old women are so very, very ugly.