[dontuan]

Yes, but if you can break out the caveman aggression you might do well. The girls respond well to that, although kind of tough to ruthlessly grab girls when rolling solo.

I can't say which is more of a grind, America or Poland. Getting shut down and dissed constant until I hook one or trying to figure out which ones are DTF. Choose wisely.

(05-31-2013 12:01 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  

dontuan, thanks for sharing. Really appreciate it. So it sounds like I actually have to do some work lol

[Greek kamaki]

Wroclaw can be really tough regarding girls despite the very bad polish guys appearance.The main reason are all those social circles inside university which throw you out in first occasion.There is also definitely a tourist stigma.

[dontuan]

Not in the summer. All those Erasmus guys, gone! Big groups, gone! Unless you are actually a part of it, the college scene is overrated.

(05-31-2013 12:12 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

Wroclaw can be really tough regarding girls despite the very bad polish guys appearance.The main reason are all those social circles inside university which throw you out in first occasion.There is also definitely a tourist stigma.

[Greek kamaki]

I also noticed in cities without college girls things can be better.The situation with college girls is weird.On the other hand tourist polish girls visiting the city from other cities can be quite a blast since their circle is absent and are free to express themselves.

[Greek kamaki]

Cockblocking is also a serious problem.It is not the situation anymore which roosh describes with the polish guy overhearing the conversation or is close to intervene or dpeaks in polish.Now the guys come very quickly after you have started talking to girks in first two minutes to block you from creating attraction they often speak in English first switching to polish later and cone in pairs to block evety access for you.They also do not stand at all overhearing they come missile mode.
Moreover they call the girl to change position by invitating her to dance thus removing her from you.It is almost deadly to talk to girls with polish guys very close or behind your back.It is almost sure they will give evil eye looks,comment to establishment and often intervene openly.

After some while I managed to find a way to confuse a bit the polish guys about my intentions but it is too much of a strain.Generally there is pressure now in Poland regarding pick up which was not present in tge past(polish guys simply watched you and did not intervene).

[dontuan]

Agreed. Small village girls touring through are looking for action and won't pass up a chance to experience a foreigner.

What Polish cities did you like best?

(05-31-2013 12:19 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

I also noticed in cities without college girls things can be better.The situation with college girls is weird.On the other hand tourist polish girls visiting the city from other cities can be quite a blast since their circle is absent and are free to express themselves.

[EU Explorer]

I would say Peterborough or Southampton are the best but Boston in Lincolnshire is over 20% Polish so has the sheer volume.

[UnW]

Also in Poland at the moment, its great here, girls are so receptive and warm that it makes me want to stay longer.

Foreign status, and exotic look helps a lot. I often just walk down the mall or shopping centre and notice a lot of stares and some smiles. My Italian friend (Also from this forum) also got a lot of attention.

I am noticing a lot of Polish guys giving me cold stares and being a pain from time to time.

The SNL thing is quite true, I mean it definitely happens but not as common as back in the Western World. My friend and I stayed until a club closed recently to observe what happened with pairs leaving together, we noticed almost all of them walked outside and then went in separate directions. But I'm sure there were others that left together before the club closed.

Although Polish girls are shy and nice during the day, they are definitely great in bed, they really do love to please.

[Wreckingball]

I have said this here before, and will say it again:
I'm so glad, a lot of people don't understand my love for polish girls.

I am from southern Europe (Portugal), so my views my be a bit skewed, but:
Not only did I get a lot of attention and stares and shy smiles, I also got some love and compliments from the friends of the chicks I was dating.
One of this girls, which I speak regularly, told me several times to go visit her (and pound her) because "there are very few polish alpha males", so she has to outsource haha

[Wreckingball]

(07-19-2012 05:24 PM)dontuan Wrote:  

How to score points with Polish girls:

1. They'll all say that Polish girls are the most beautiful girls in the world. Do the smart thing and agree with them. In fact, they love it when you praise them and make fun of how the German girls are so ugly.

3. Make fun of Polish guys. This is a semi-risky approach since some girls might think there's nothing wrong with the local dudes. But you can say you heard "Polish guys like to wear socks with their sandals." When you make the jokes, just say you heard other people say that.

4. Talk about traveling - One good way to screen for girls who are out for foreign guys is to ask whether they like to travel. If they do, you'll see right away them bubbling over with enthusiasm and a deep yearning to see more of the world. Poland is a relatively poor country, so it's not very easy for them to spend much time abroad as much as they want to.

I found this to be on spot, but be careful to:
1- Not pedestalize. They like when you compliment their eyes. I also do the comparison between german and polish. It is funny and it is true.

3- Make sure you're not making fun of the boyfriend. I tell a story about a polish guys that said that names in my country are funny, then I say the the name of the guy that said that is "Wojtek" (Voi-tech) and say that he must be relative from arnold scharwzenneger's terminator.

4-Shows that you are not boring, know things, seen things and it's a huge sign of higher value, because if you travel alot or did a huge trip, you needed/had "loadz o'moneys"

Unfortunately I can't dance, but I do agree with you. If you're latin looking and can dance.. you're 85% there.

[GameTheory]

[Traveler86]

(07-20-2012 12:48 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

I have described the ''German girls are ugly line.''But to tell them the polish girls are the most beautiful in the world?This is reserved for ukrainian girls.
They do not instantly get wet when you say you are from Greece.They just give you a chance.The advantage that we Balkans have is that we mix easily in the local environment and the polish guys take us often as fellow Slavs so resistance is minimal.The other is that we are in firm control of the situation because Spanish fall into the macho trap,(too much boistness for nothing),Italians can appear as rather superficial(very fashion conscious and no substance) and Arabs lack the bulk to actually control the free movement of polish girls.
So in a polish women environment the Balkans get inevitably the most attention(I mean we generally draw attention of everyone because of firm attitude,control etc).The problem is the general craziness(especially in case of Serbs) and some mental instability(we get too enraged easily) that can rip from us the benefits.

For example if I go to a club with polish girls and there are western guys,American guys,Arabs,Asians,Latins or whatever I never worry.Because I know they are in no position to exercise control.If there are Serbs,Greeks,Albanians,Croats I sweat.I have to double check first.

Thats a complete lie, My polish girl friends often see greeks, italians, spanish, portuguese people all as a block of mediterranean/southern european people, I dont think anyone see greece as slavic country, first because Its not,but also because the closest place to greece on earth is southern italy (both culturally, ethnically). Greeks have a complete different character/looks than the slavic balkanian nations, usually more heavily on the mediterraenan/southern european side and lacking completly on slavic influences.

[S Vega]

(06-01-2013 10:01 PM)Traveler86 Wrote:  

(07-20-2012 12:48 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

I have described the ''German girls are ugly line.''But to tell them the polish girls are the most beautiful in the world?This is reserved for ukrainian girls.
They do not instantly get wet when you say you are from Greece.They just give you a chance.The advantage that we Balkans have is that we mix easily in the local environment and the polish guys take us often as fellow Slavs so resistance is minimal.The other is that we are in firm control of the situation because Spanish fall into the macho trap,(too much boistness for nothing),Italians can appear as rather superficial(very fashion conscious and no substance) and Arabs lack the bulk to actually control the free movement of polish girls.
So in a polish women environment the Balkans get inevitably the most attention(I mean we generally draw attention of everyone because of firm attitude,control etc).The problem is the general craziness(especially in case of Serbs) and some mental instability(we get too enraged easily) that can rip from us the benefits.

For example if I go to a club with polish girls and there are western guys,American guys,Arabs,Asians,Latins or whatever I never worry.Because I know they are in no position to exercise control.If there are Serbs,Greeks,Albanians,Croats I sweat.I have to double check first.

Thats a complete lie, My polish girl friends often see greeks, italians, spanish, portuguese people all as a block of mediterranean/southern european people, I dont think anyone see greece as slavic country, first because Its not,but also because the closest place to greece on earth is southern italy (both culturally, ethnically). Greeks have a complete different character/looks than the slavic balkanian nations, usually more heavily on the mediterraenan/southern european side and lacking completly on slavic influences.

You make a good point, even this 'slavic map' does not include Greece. And here is information to backup that argument:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavic_peop...bdivisions

But Greek you're extremely successful it seems otherwise, so don't fret it!

[Greek kamaki]

I meant that we blend in Poland and nobody pays particular attention to us till the time we start pulling girls though.

[Traveler86]

(06-02-2013 12:44 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

I meant that we blend in Poland and nobody pays particular attention to us till the time we start pulling girls though.

I dont think greeks look particularly polish btw, If those people blend in greece then anyone can.



Roosh could pefectly blend among greek people imo.

[dontuan]

In Poland, Greeks are not seen as one of them. And for reason Poland and many places in Europe have something against Turks. Just passing on what I heard.

(06-02-2013 03:37 PM)Traveler86 Wrote:  

(06-02-2013 12:44 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

I meant that we blend in Poland and nobody pays particular attention to us till the time we start pulling girls though.

I dont think greeks look particularly polish btw, If those people blend in greece then anyone can.



Roosh could pefectly blend among greek people imo.

[UnW]

(06-02-2013 04:26 PM)dontuan Wrote:  

In Poland, Greeks are not seen as one of them. And for reason Poland and many places in Europe have something against Turks. Just passing on what I heard.

(06-02-2013 03:37 PM)Traveler86 Wrote:  

(06-02-2013 12:44 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

I meant that we blend in Poland and nobody pays particular attention to us till the time we start pulling girls though.

I dont think greeks look particularly polish btw, If those people blend in greece then anyone can.



Roosh could pefectly blend among greek people imo.

Agree on the turkish thing, a few girls here also speak in a negative light on turks, and algerians too for some reason.

[S Vega]

I think the dislike for Turks come because of how possessive of Polish girls they can be and share many similarities with arabs in this respect, and most arabs/turks share this aspect while also not being respectful of the country they're in and only being respectful to each other and no other race.

[LostAwake]

I'll be in Poland for 2 weeks in July. I'm Asian American with decent looks, style, and social skills. I'll be in Warsaw and Bydgoszcz. Any tips or advice? Anyone in those cities want to meet up?

[XXL]

Greeks are cool, they got nice beaches and warm water haha, half of PL go to greek islands for summer vacations haha.

but there are very BAD stereotypes about Turks or Arabs in PL. Girls run from them. Girls think they'll get kidnapped and forced to be their concubine or be taken and sold for a pack of cigarettes. basically, any guy from this region is in 'get away from me' category at first:



every girl i talked to had bad some experiences with Turks. the common complaint was extreme straightforwardness, blatancy, repulsive persistence and sexual harassment.. especially on blondes

[capote]

XXL, are there many arabs/turks in Poland? Does this phenomenon exist only in 2nd tier cities or is it also seen in big cities like Warsaw and Wroclaw?

[S Vega]

@LostAwake: If I'm here in Warsaw during July I'll definitely want to meet up!

@capote: No idea about 2nd tier cities but whenever I see a Saudi in warsaw they live up to the stereotype of such boorish behaviour, especially in clubs coupled with some alcohol. They can be annoying to all and disrespectful so I steer clear of them.

[XXL]

i don't really see them.

if in major cities Turks/Arabs have it tough then in smaller towns they're completely fucked due to even less tolerance and more simple minded people. people here view them as gross pigs who molest women kidnap them to their harems turn them into their slaves and treat them like shit. i mean girls might be attracted to handsome guy like that at first but the defensiveness is still massive. can you blame them? those fuckers are famous for molesting coworker girls in UK or tourists in their homeland. Movies like "Taken" also don't help

[capote]

Its interesting how quickly and easily racial stereotypes go mainstream, especially in communities that are homogeneous and not cosmopolitan. I think this problem is more pronounced in countries like Poland, Germany etc. that have a relatively small percentage of immigrant/ethnic population. The ensuing xenophobia further isolates the immigrants from the locals, leading to more aggressive behavior by the former group.

Your description of attitudes towards turks/arabs matches the experience of my friend who recently visited Poland (Krakow) and was not treated warmly by the local chicas. He is Colombian but looks Arab, and didn't get much love in the clubs. Although when we were in Prague, some random Polish girls literally screamed in lust when they heard him speak Spanish. The poor fucker is still perplexed by the contrasting attitudes.

[The Patriarch]

Polish and Russian and Ukrainian girls freely fuck Turks and Arabs by their own volition when they travel alone or in girl groups (without male company) on vacation to Turkey, Egypt, Morocco and Tunis. So I would not put two pennies into what they say, but what they do when the geography changes.