[SLIMMACKEY]

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Now, can we get back to hard facts and advice on the Brazilian broads??? Nobody ever answered whether or not most speak English? Who has shot at the "uppity" chicas and been shot down and why?? Lets get back on topic my dudes.....

You didn't expect me not to respond, did you?

Come now.


Well, ummm...the questions are still there?:
1.)Nobody ever answered whether or not most speak English?
2.)Who has shot at the "uppity" chicas and been shot down and why??

[Excelsior]

(07-07-2011 08:31 AM)SLIMMACKEY Wrote:  

You as an African, If I am correctly speaking, sound very dillusional coming across as some sort of authority of the dating/marriage/divorce rate of Afro American women or any women with whom you do not have extensive relational experiences.

I sound "dillusional" because I lack "relational experiences"?

Have you gotten around to actually addressing the arguments at hand yet? So far you have remained focused on myself, using arguments to tone and ad-hominem to make your case.

I'd respect it if you could simply take the arguments you disagree with and logically deconstruct them, but you seem entirely unwilling to do that.
I wonder why?

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I do not take issue with your FALSE representation, your opinion is your opinion.

Why can't you prove it false?

You've made this declaration several times-why not show it?

Can you do that?

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Which is what you have been posting; YOUR OPINION.

These are not opinions or simply random musings I made up for fun. They are facts.

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Have you been scorned by Afro American women or something?

As if one must have been scorned by African American women in order to come to all of the bleedingly obvious and empirically sound conclusions I have made here. Sure.

Typical ad-hominem.

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You claim that everyone here is posting truths about behaviors as such of all ethnic groups(females) yet reviewing your posts, I seem to not be able to find any one in which you refer to another race of women as such.

Ad-hominem again-no hint of actually addressing the arguments at hand and attempting to deconstruct them logically.

Just an attack on the person.

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I as an Afro American male consider myself a far better source of info on this matter than you because I have been surrounded by all sorts of Afr American women my whole life.

Then you should have no problem taking the arguments you disagree with and deconstructing them, right? You are an authority, afterall-it should be easy to dispatch a minor serf like me.

I'll wait.

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Though I will not state that my words are all fact I do present them as MORE factually based than yours.

And yet you are entirely incapable of backing them up.

Odd.

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And as I said in my earlier posts: TO MAKE THE ASSUMPTION THAT A MAN RISKS IT ALL MARRYING A BLACK WOMAN IS STR8T BULLSHIT.

You contend that to make the assumption (as I have done) that black women divorce at twice the rate of white and hispanic women is "STR8 BULLSHIT".

It's not, though.

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Any union contains risk; inherent and variable.

Some unions tend to contain more risk that others.

Black marriages have a higher rate of failure than others. That is a fact.

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Once again this is not an argument

Yes it is.

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and though my mother, sister, aunts, cousins and granmothers are all Afro American women (Creole too), I do not take offense from YOU.

Judging from your unwillingness to use any logic, I'd say you do on some level.

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But to continue to spread opinions as truths is disrepect to all here.

Good thing I haven't been doing that, then.

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You spout all sorts oF rubuttals to everyones post as though your points of view ARE always correct? Truly that cant be.............

You're offended by my "rubuttals"?

Then prove me wrong.

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P.S. If you deem this letter unwarranted please provide HARD facts supporting your facts. Not OPINION, but FACTS.

That's been done about a dozen times already, both in this thread and in others.

[Excelsior]

And for IntlSwag, since he's listening:

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dude clearly has no clue or tru experience w/upscale blk women

I go to school with quite a few of them, and have been with several. That would include a State Police commisioner's daughter and the (much younger) cousin of a future NFL Hall of Famer. Ivy League schools aren't too short on these types of women.

An unfavorable observation/critique is not necessarily indicative of a lack of experience. Such a correlation simply doesn't exist-you can have experience with something and come to a factual, empirically sound conclusion that isn't entirely positive.

[Theogreat]

@Slimackey

I think this kid has been fucked over by a African American woman but I think he fails to understand that other races of women could do the same shit. I suspect that the kid is trying to justify his aesthetic preferences for non black women. I have alot of cousins that do the same shit. They go on and on about the problems of black women to cover up the fact that they are simply not attracted to black women. Dude you like what you like stop fronting.

[Urban Renaissance Man]

(07-06-2011 09:39 PM)SLIMMACKEY Wrote:  

Correct. Im just sayin that wifing up somethin "exotic" that is sub par to ones taste just for braggin rights is down rite stupid.....but we are on the same page. I also find myself attracted to a wide array of chicks...sum I mite even ask myself why but they have that "sumthin about you" factor that u staed above....everybodys dime is different. A chics sexiness and/or personality can take her to the next level just as looks do. But who wants a looker with no azz and tits?? Not me..lol..And Jody foster...dude she got mad sexy legs...she would get it!!!

And also, Iwe always hear dudes talk about their proverbial dime piece..the Jessica Albas or what have you but more often than not, these same dudes marry someone who may not look as good but have very good qualities that compliment their ok looks.

As far as that goes, let me find out Valesca Popozuda can speak sum english when I go to Brazil...her ass is comin back with me damnit!!!! Google her azz

Brothas unfortunately do that with white women a lot. They get a white 5 and prance her around as if they've done something major. Yes, I would never consider it a victory to be with an exotic 5 or 6, simply because she's exotic.

About that "sumthin about her" factor.... You must make sure that the feeling isn't fleeting, or really desperation masked as sexual appeal. Her mediocre looks are going to still be there, after any fleeting "sumthin about her" feelings have long gone. Its still always safest to strive for the 8 and above!

Concerning Valesca Popozuda, as well as the picture of the girl Ms. Chocolate posted with her cousin, those are the kinds of girls that I would think one would be going to Brazil to get. The part black, part latin, part indian, can't really tell what race she is, but damn she's hot, girls! Why would anyone be going to Brazil to get a straight white girl? I'll try to find some pics of my idea of Brazilian beauty.

[InternationalSwagger]

(07-07-2011 11:11 AM)Theogreat Wrote:  

@Slimackey

I think this kid has been fucked over by a African American woman but I think he fails to understand that other races of women could do the same shit. I suspect that the kid is trying to justify his aesthetic preferences for non black women. I have alot of cousins that do the same shit. They go on and on about the problems of black women to cover up the fact that they are simply not attracted to black women. Dude you like what you like stop fronting.

This pretty much sums things up...I know a few brothas with Athlone' mentality and again you havent dealt with the wide range of Black Women that someone who is a native has so your "observations" from your ivy league campus and island up-bringing don't hold much weight as far as I'm concerned.

Its funny because I know your type...The island rich or well off kid (let's face it you can't attend an elite private college or university coming from the islands unless you are well connected and come from money) who comes over to the usa with the silver spoon and thinks he is superior an will critize the worst of black america without first looking @ self...I went to school with a lot of trinis, jamaicans, bermudians and other english speaking well off kids from Africa @ the college I attended in ATL. And since you are quoting my rating of slimmackey why didn't you address the fact hat their are many of the same social ills that you complain about with blk americans with black women from the caribbean island which you are from just on a smaller scale? Where exactly are you from anyway?

I'm not going to go off topic because I don't have time to address such nonsense and will drop some G on Brasil here soon (Been flying out the country every weekend). Feel free to PM me on this...let's not continue to dillute this topic

[Excelsior]

(07-07-2011 11:11 AM)Theogreat Wrote:  

@Slimackey

I think this kid has been fucked over by a African American woman but I think he fails to understand that other races of women could do the same shit.

1. I'm not a kid (though apparently some of you on here are twice my age).

2. I have been rejected by African American women...and Irish, Jewish, Italian, Polish/Chinese(Eurasian), French, Portuguese, Hispanic, Spanish, and British American women too.

Every guy has been shot down by plenty of different women at some point in his life. I'm no different in that regard, and that has nothing to do with the points at hand.

3. Do you care to point me to the post in which I stated that only African American women are capable of having attitudes/issues, and that no other women on Earth can do the same?

4. You're on a public forum-I can read everything you write. No need to pretend as though you are speaking behind my back.

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I suspect that the kid is trying to justify his aesthetic preferences for non black women.

That is why I have made a point of limiting the scope of my discussion to roughly 2-3% of the world's black female population(specifically: African American women of the current generation[35 and under]).
I am actually using my discussion of this tiny sliver of the Earth's black populace to justify my feelings about the other 1 billion black people on Earth who I am not mentioning. By speaking about such a small percentage of the global black female populace specifically, I'm actually expressing my general lack of desire for ALL black women!

You've got me sussed. Well spoken!

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I have alot of cousins that do the same shit. They go on and on about the problems of black women to cover up the fact that they are simply not attracted to black women. Dude you like what you like stop fronting.

Your stated assumption(that I am not attracted to black women) is entirely incorrect, and thus your conclusion is invalid.

Have any of you white knights(or should I say black knights?) in this thread considered addressing my argument on a logical basis yet?
I'm still waiting on that. The ad-hominem attacks are getting a little old.

[Excelsior]

(07-07-2011 11:39 AM)InternationalSwagger Wrote:  

And since you are quoting my rating of slimmackey why didn't you address the fact hat their are many of the same social ills that you complain about with blk americans with black women from the caribbean island which you are from just on a smaller scale?

I agree that there are many of the same social ills present in other black populations throughout the Americas, Europe and Africa.

The thing is that I never actually said otherwise, so you're fighting a strawman.

In any case, some of those same social ills are also present in White and Hispanic America. You can find them in Southeast Asia, Australia and Russia too.

The point, which I've been trying to get across here is the relative scale.

Take, for example, obesity, one of the issues I've spoken about here and in other threads.

There are plenty of obese White Americans. On a per capita basis, however (and this can be confirmed in the links I've already provided), black American women are the most obese demographic in the US.

There are plenty of obese Nigerians, Trinis and Jamaicans too...but black American women have over twice their rate of obesity.

When I say "Black American women are huge", you'll respond by saying "There are plenty of fat white and Nigerian women!", and you'll be right. The point, however, is to say that there are (on a per capita basis) MANY MORE obese black american women than there are others.

That is the point of the argument(relative scale), and it is also the aspect that nobody here will address head on.

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Where exactly are you from anyway?

Around.

[Roosh]

Personal issues are best worked out via PM. Before you post a reply please ask yourself if it's relevant to the thread's topic.

[Excelsior]

Edit: didn't see Roosh's post.

[Moma]

(07-06-2011 08:53 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Well said my brother! If the man honestly thinks marrying a foreign woman would be easier than a black american woman, he is seriously delusional. I will add that I rarely date black women, white women are far too easy for my liking.
I know a Canadian-Indian dude who married a girl from India, once she got her papers in Canada she was gone. Too boot she wanted half of his shit, so much for the docile indian image. Same thing happened to a Colombian dude I know who did the same trick. I know another dude who is about to take the plunge with a cuban, he claims she is different. lol My point is women are very different nowadays, marriage is a risky proposition period.
I am almost 40 years of age, for years I did the whole GQ smooth image. After seeing alot of (rough thug looking) brotha's with nice looking women of ALL races it made me realize that I have to tone down my image. I get the most attention when I look the roughest, I cannot explain it but girls like a rough hard man. As someone stated you can call it 50 cent syndrome and that applies to girls who are not ghetto as well.

I agree with the bolded. There are a lot of Caribbeans in Toronto and I have hung out with a few of them. I am talking fresh off the boat, thick patois, some with natty dreads and trust me, these guys were knocking out pussy like it had a glass jaw.

These cats were generally quite rough looking and often seen to be cheaters (which women swear they hate in men) yet they continued to pound out lizard after lizard (even taken and married ones).

Myself, when I don't shave and generally look rough, I find women are more drawn to my look and engage in more eye contact.

I think shaving and looking neat actually conveys femininity and hetrosexual women aren't truly attracted to that (deep down on their primal level).

[Urban Renaissance Man]

I realize that not all of these girls are extremely hot but their type (coloring, hair,etc) are a good representitive of what I would be going to Brazil to find. I realize that brazilian women come in all colors, but any darker and you might as well go to Atlanta to game! Any lighter, Scandanavia!

[speakeasy]

(07-07-2011 11:11 AM)Theogreat Wrote:  

@Slimackey

I think this kid has been fucked over by a African American woman but I think he fails to understand that other races of women could do the same shit. I suspect that the kid is trying to justify his aesthetic preferences for non black women. I have alot of cousins that do the same shit. They go on and on about the problems of black women to cover up the fact that they are simply not attracted to black women. Dude you like what you like stop fronting.

I doubt this is the case for Athlone as he has posted a ton of black chics in the perfect 10 thread on the girls forum.

[Global Baller]

(07-07-2011 11:38 AM)Urban Renaissance Man Wrote:  

Why would anyone be going to Brazil to get a straight white girl?

Co-sign. We got all of Europe, Canada, Australia, N Zealand, plus the good old USA to go to for white chicks.

However, I managed to smash a Coco-type (Ice-T's wifey) chick in Sampa awhile back. But, with real tig bitties.

[Theogreat]

We as black men are just as bad as black women check out the stats below for evidence. Based on Athalone's logic black men like black women are all bad.

African-American men are more than twice as likely to be unemployed as white males, and black males who work in comparable jobs earn only 75 percent of what white men earn.

Black males between 15 and 34 are nearly eight times as likely to suffer from AIDS as their white counterparts.

Black male achievement begins to decline as early as the fourth grade and by high school. Studies show, black male achievement begins to decline as early as the fourth grade and by high school, black males are more likely to drop out; in 2001, only 42.8 percent graduated from high school, compared to 70.8 percent for their white counterparts.

Black men are more likely to abandon their children then any other race.

[Global Baller]

(07-07-2011 03:07 PM)Theogreat Wrote:  

We as black men are just as bad as black women check out the stats below for evidence. Based on Athalone's logic black men like black women are all bad.

African-American men are more than twice as likely to be unemployed as white males, and black males who work in comparable jobs earn only 75 percent of what white men earn.

Discrimination in America hasn't diminished despite the fact that there's an Afr-Am president.

Black males between 15 and 34 are nearly eight times as likely to suffer from AIDS as their white counterparts.

Bullshit. Does that include gay white males???

Black male achievement begins to decline as early as the fourth grade and by high school. Studies show, black male achievement begins to decline as early as the fourth grade and by high school, black males are more likely to drop out; in 2001, only 42.8 percent graduated from high school, compared to 70.8 percent for their white counterparts.

Stats from 10 yrs ago may be way off. However, this may be true in low-income areas.

Black men are more likely to abandon their children then any other race.

That's certainly the stereotype...but, is that reality??? What about Latinos???

[Urban Renaissance Man]

(07-07-2011 02:58 PM)Global Baller Wrote:  

Co-sign. We got all of Europe, Canada, Australia, N Zealand, plus the good old USA to go to for white chicks.

However, I managed to find a Coco-type (Ice-T's wifey) chick in Sampa awhile back. But, with real tig bitties.

Please don't get me wrong... Some of the hottest 'white' girls I've ever seen were brazilian. However, though I would in no way pass up a hot, white Brazilian, that wouldn't be my target girl. Therefore, I could care less if those types aren't really into dark skinned men. I'm not going after them necessarily anyway. The girl in Ms. Chocolate's post sums up what I'd be going to brazil for almost exactly!

[SLIMMACKEY]

@ ATHLON....Dun Sun, I made my points. I feel not the need to deconstruct any point that you have not proven...excuse me made. Because you havent proven anything. Just stated a whole lot of OPINION. And thats whats up. This is a posting forum. But I think I said In my very first posting after I said to each his own, to get back to the meaning of the thread...Brazil chics....I dont feel a certain kinda way about anything u said so please refrain from THINKIN that I am attackin ur character....dont need to. Now I have stated it more than once and now the site ADMIN ROOSH has also done so...stay on topic. And marry who u like.....now unless we are talkin about chicas like Valesca Popozuda or Andressa Soares(Mulher Melancia), we have nothing else to talk about.

To everybody else who saw that I brought the real topic back at the end of EVERY post, THANKS for ur input and carry on...

[SLIMMACKEY]

(07-07-2011 11:38 AM)Urban Renaissance Man Wrote:  

(07-06-2011 09:39 PM)SLIMMACKEY Wrote:  

Correct. Im just sayin that wifing up somethin "exotic" that is sub par to ones taste just for braggin rights is down rite stupid.....but we are on the same page. I also find myself attracted to a wide array of chicks...sum I mite even ask myself why but they have that "sumthin about you" factor that u staed above....everybodys dime is different. A chics sexiness and/or personality can take her to the next level just as looks do. But who wants a looker with no azz and tits?? Not me..lol..And Jody foster...dude she got mad sexy legs...she would get it!!!

And also, Iwe always hear dudes talk about their proverbial dime piece..the Jessica Albas or what have you but more often than not, these same dudes marry someone who may not look as good but have very good qualities that compliment their ok looks.

As far as that goes, let me find out Valesca Popozuda can speak sum english when I go to Brazil...her ass is comin back with me damnit!!!! Google her azz

Brothas unfortunately do that with white women a lot. They get a white 5 and prance her around as if they've done something major. Yes, I would never consider it a victory to be with an exotic 5 or 6, simply because she's exotic.

About that "sumthin about her" factor.... You must make sure that the feeling isn't fleeting, or really desperation masked as sexual appeal. Her mediocre looks are going to still be there, after any fleeting "sumthin about her" feelings have long gone. Its still always safest to strive for the 8 and above!

Concerning Valesca Popozuda, as well as the picture of the girl Ms. Chocolate posted with her cousin, those are the kinds of girls that I would think one would be going to Brazil to get. The part black, part latin, part indian, can't really tell what race she is, but damn she's hot, girls! Why would anyone be going to Brazil to get a straight white girl? I'll try to find some pics of my idea of Brazilian beauty.

True that!! Im all for the Mulatto's homey...I do plan on hittin events where the Favela chics will be as well as the touristy balls where the "white" upper class chica will be. But Im equal opportunity wit it fo sho....

[SLIMMACKEY]

Here are sum examples too....

[SLIMMACKEY]

And ahhhhh, yes....Valesca!!!!

Sorry for the nakedness Roosh.......If thats a problem.

[azulsombra]

(07-06-2011 10:53 AM)Diablo Wrote:  

(07-06-2011 01:21 AM)azulsombra Wrote:  

(06-30-2011 12:07 PM)Diablo Wrote:  

(06-30-2011 11:58 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Miss C, how common are pairings like that in BR? I'm just curious.

Either way, I hope Brazil isn't as bad as the DR. No place on earth can be more worse than the DR. Those guys have serious racial issues.

I guess you haven't been to Panama then....

No, but I'd love to know how bad it is. Have you been to the DR?

I've been to Panama, D.R., Colombia,Brazil,etc, same shit, different smell as far as racial issues go. I'm gonna keep it real, I pulled more ass in D.R. than any of the other countries, but their complexion heirarchy is very real. If I was a young wesley snipes colored brotha I would definitely skip it. Panama city has the same problems, being denied entry to clubs due to race, police issues,etc. Bottom line, in any latin american country where there is a big black population you will have to work harder than white dudes to get with the triguenas, mestizas and mulatas(The ones most of us travel to get). If your looking for true snow white latinas it will probably be difficult to impossible, but I don't have any experience (If I wanted white girls I would have stayed home). If you like the much darker sistas u can take your pick, they will throw it at you. Nevertheless, If you pull consistently in your home country, I can't imagine your gonna be heading to your hotel with you dick in your hand every night.

Also, since someone keeps asking,

Most of these girls will NOT speak functional english, if/or any, unless your spitting at the top 10% who went to private school or something. You will find a few more who speak english in the capitals like sao paulo, but even there I wouldn't count on it.

[Theogreat]

(07-07-2011 01:29 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(07-07-2011 11:11 AM)Theogreat Wrote:  

@Slimackey

I think this kid has been fucked over by a African American woman but I think he fails to understand that other races of women could do the same shit. I suspect that the kid is trying to justify his aesthetic preferences for non black women. I have alot of cousins that do the same shit. They go on and on about the problems of black women to cover up the fact that they are simply not attracted to black women. Dude you like what you like stop fronting.

I doubt this is the case for Athlone as he has posted a ton of black chics in the perfect 10 thread on the girls forum.

(07-07-2011 07:31 PM)azulsombra Wrote:  

(07-06-2011 10:53 AM)Diablo Wrote:  

(07-06-2011 01:21 AM)azulsombra Wrote:  

(06-30-2011 12:07 PM)Diablo Wrote:  

(06-30-2011 11:58 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Miss C, how common are pairings like that in BR? I'm just curious.

Either way, I hope Brazil isn't as bad as the DR. No place on earth can be more worse than the DR. Those guys have serious racial issues.

I guess you haven't been to Panama then....

No, but I'd love to know how bad it is. Have you been to the DR?

I've been to Panama, D.R., Colombia,Brazil,etc, same shit, different smell as far as racial issues go. I'm gonna keep it real, I pulled more ass in D.R. than any of the other countries, but their complexion heirarchy is very real. If I was a young wesley snipes colored brotha I would definitely skip it. Panama city has the same problems, being denied entry to clubs due to race, police issues,etc. Bottom line, in any latin american country where there is a big black population you will have to work harder than white dudes to get with the triguenas, mestizas and mulatas(The ones most of us travel to get). If your looking for true snow white latinas it will probably be difficult to impossible, but I don't have any experience (If I wanted white girls I would have stayed home). If you like the much darker sistas u can take your pick, they will throw it at you. Nevertheless, If you pull consistently in your home country, I can't imagine your gonna be heading to your hotel with you dick in your hand every night.

Also, since someone keeps asking,

Most of these girls will NOT speak functional english, if/or any, unless your spitting at the top 10% who went to private school or something. You will find a few more who speak english in the capitals like sao paulo, but even there I wouldn't count on it.

I definitely agree with you. In DR, Panama, Brazil etc. getting a mulata, metiza, or triguenas can be even tough to get especially for the darker skinned black men. I have been to DR, Brazil, and Panama about five times each for three to eight weeks on end, sometimes with my brothers and cousins other times alone. I can tell all of you brothers on this forum from my own personal experience that colorism is real in Latin America period!! I am about the same color as Michael Ealy and my brothers are dark skinned(we have different fathers) and I pulled way more women then they were able to this is not the case in the U.S or Europe. Having lighter skin in Latin countries means alot. Oftentimes darker skinned folk are looked down upon.
With regards to white latinas I agree with what you said, they are almost impossible to get. Most of them are not opened to dating black men let alone befriending one. I personally don't like white latina's it seems kind of stupid if you ask me. There are plenty of white women in the U.S.

[SLIMMACKEY]

@AZUL & THEO: Good lookin....I got a bunch of Brasilian cats that work out at my gym...we all chat it up sumtimes...Today when I went they said pretty much the same thing. But they did add that because I seem to be able to chop it up with the Brasilian chicks in there that are bunnies..lol, I could/should get it in. I have been askin them about the info I have been seeing on here and they have been co-sighning to a certain degree. The funny thing is that all these cats are the "white" lookin Brasilians, and about half are Favela dudes! Their girls are the "white" ones also.....Now sum of the dudes and their girls stay their distance, but the others pound u off and everything. So I can see the snobbish and the kool in a small sample at my gym here in ATL. They give me all kinds of advice on shit to do and places to see when I go. And I practice my shitty Portugese with them...they are actually teachin ur boy sumthin. So when I touch down I plan on knowin some of the lingo at least...not goin in blind and without a condom...lol. But this is sum good stuff man keep it comin.

Oh, I really gotta hit the Favelas for sum street concerts (block parties) to see them chics bouncin that ass to that Baile Funk..

[rudebwoy]

(07-07-2011 05:18 PM)SLIMMACKEY Wrote:  

Here are sum examples too....

The dark skin girl in the middle of the pack would be my personal choice.

As for the rest they seem to have ugly faces.

There is a saying, "better to marry the devil you know than the devil you don't know". No girl expires quicker than a white girl, yes black women maybe obese but at least they do not wrinkle up.