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The Approach Thread

The Approach Thread

Quote: (09-17-2012 06:14 AM)Way Cool Jr Wrote:  

Sorry, I'm not a native English speaker.

What do you mean by "build comfortability"?

Quote: (09-17-2012 06:59 AM)pitt Wrote:  

instead of you trying to get her number as soon as you meet her, you want to connect with the girl. Find something that you guys may have in common, talk more or listen more, make her laugh, connect with her as much as you can

Yes! Don't try to get phone numbers. Try to make connections. You want to her to feel like you swept her off her feet. A sexy encounter with a handsome stranger.

My recent improvements are dressing GQ and contacting her later the same day or the next day. This adds to the whole sweep her off her feet feeling that I want her to have.
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Quote: (09-21-2012 10:36 AM)slubu Wrote:  

He's figured it out. He has made something that puts him in a power position and girls love him for that. His gf? The hottest and youngest girl at the event. Solid 8.5 super cute and thin 22yo brunette. He's 32. Respect.

He created a niche for himself! I love it! That's some pro active gaming!

Quote: (09-19-2012 10:38 AM)Lothario Wrote:  

Plan: Outdoor activity and some wine/Champagne and make out and push to as far as I can get. Suggestions Welcome.......

Note: This is a young naive 20 yr old that I am gaming and I haven't been able to get much attention from this age-group but this one is on the hook.......

Any updates with this 20yo???
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Street approach from yesterday..

I was walking towards an intersection. I see a cutie standing on the corner. White girl, blond, 7, maybe 20 or 21. Just as I get to her she steps out into the crosswalk, against the red light. I also step into the street and quickly walk across the intersection. She notices me as I walk past her.

me: you almost got us killed
her: there weren't any cars coming
me: you better be careful, you're so skinny, these people can't see you
her: haha
me: are you a cowgirl? (she was wearing cowboy boots)
her: no i just like these boots
me: they are pretty cool


Blah, Blah, Blah. We chat about school. She is a music major. I love to talk music. We discuss a few bands and a few musical eras and genres. She stopped and gave me her attention. We connected a little bit over music.

me: lets get a drink sometime and continue are discussion about music
her: ok


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Trader Joes approach about 20 minutes ago. I was leaving the store. I see a hot white girl walking in from the other entrance. Tight black yoga pants, tight top, banging body, early 20's. I turn around and walk right back in the store. I follow her to the produce section. She is looking at apples..

me: hey you look nice today
her: thanks
me: did you have yoga class?
her: no i just like the dress comfy
me: how do you keep you body looking so good?
her: ha just good genetics I guess
me: you from around here?
her: no san diego
me: oh you gonna be freezing up here
her: i know i already am
me: whay brings you to the bay
her: school
me: where?
her: sf city college
me: oh fuck, the coldest school in the bay
her: i know
me: are you single?
her: no


Fuuucckkk!!!

Lesson learned! I will never again ask a girl if she is single. It gives her a chance to shut down your approach with a simple one world answer - "no". I tried to ignore it and plough on but she wasn't giving me solid eye contact or asking me anything so I bailed.

I am trying to be more sexually direct, more apologetically sexual. I was motivated by this thread..

This mindset is blowing my mind

It's alot of fun being sexually direct and I must admit that I love it!!!
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Quote: (09-24-2012 12:53 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Quote: (09-17-2012 06:14 AM)Way Cool Jr Wrote:  

Sorry, I'm not a native English speaker.

What do you mean by "build comfortability"?

Quote: (09-17-2012 06:59 AM)pitt Wrote:  

instead of you trying to get her number as soon as you meet her, you want to connect with the girl. Find something that you guys may have in common, talk more or listen more, make her laugh, connect with her as much as you can

Yes! Don't try to get phone numbers. Try to make connections. You want to her to feel like you swept her off her feet. A sexy encounter with a handsome stranger.

My recent improvements are dressing GQ and contacting her later the same day or the next day. This adds to the whole sweep her off her feet feeling that I want her to have.

I've been thinking a lot about the "sweep her off her feet method" Like in roosh's new video girls here will fuck when they are on an emotional high. Emotions are the language of girls so why not try to overwhelm them in a short period of time then get your bang on.
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Quote: (09-24-2012 01:51 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Quote: (09-19-2012 10:38 AM)Lothario Wrote:  

Plan: Outdoor activity and some wine/Champagne and make out and push to as far as I can get. Suggestions Welcome.......

Note: This is a young naive 20 yr old that I am gaming and I haven't been able to get much attention from this age-group but this one is on the hook.......

Any updates with this 20yo???

Hey Giovanny, here's the update.... We made plans last week for doing an outdoor activity tentatively this tuesday after her class finishes at 12:30, called her sunday , She didn't pick up, I left a message, No call back............ I sent a text at Lunch today, No response as of yet...... [Image: angry.gif]

I also had a brutal rejection at Lunch time approach today, will post later when I have time to type..

"You can not fake good kids" - Mike Pence
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You guys ever run out of steam/ lose interest in a girl mid ramble?
Coffee shop approach just now
18 yr old blonde sits next to my table as I'm working

Me: Reading up on some economics huh
Her: Yeah, its pretty interesting actually, its modern issues
Me: micro or macro
Her: neither, its kind of an introductory course, I'm a freshman, but i really like it out of all my classes
Me: Is that your major then?
her: no i'm currently undeclared
me: so you're one of those haha
Her: haha yeah i guess you could say so
Me: so are you from around here
Her: I'm from boston actually, WHAT ABOUT YOU?
Me: xxxx, ramble, lose interest, and say I'm getting back to my work.

Another girl across the shop just blatantly eye fucked me though, will have to follow up in a few minutes.
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Quote: (09-24-2012 04:35 PM)rationalize_this Wrote:  

You guys ever run out of steam/ lose interest in a girl mid ramble?

Yes when she's not as hot as I thought she was from far away. Or when she doesn't give me enough to work with and I'm too lazy to continue.
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Nice sunny day so after a workout, some reading and bit of a bikeride. It was off to the mall to try some day game.

I was genuinely trying to find a money clip and it was harder than I was expecting. But it gave me an excuse to walk into almost every shop (Mens and womens clothing, jewelers and accessory shops) and talk to staff and customers about where I might find one. Need to practice, segues off the intro topic. I'm already quite a good rambler so found a few girls who were happy to talk about random stuff that made it easy to transition off the opener. Went for the phone number on one, but got the IHABF line. Should have used some Galnuc on some of the others but it slipped my mind.

I like the "shopping for a money clip" line as it is something that I actually want so it means I'm more inspired to ask, and it keeps the AA away. Might try it again at another mall tomorrow.
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Quote: (09-24-2012 02:18 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Street approach from yesterday..

I was walking towards an intersection. I see a cutie standing on the corner. White girl, blond, 7, maybe 20 or 21. Just as I get to her she steps out into the crosswalk, against the red light. I also step into the street and quickly walk across the intersection. She notices me as I walk past her.

me: you almost got us killed
her: there weren't any cars coming
me: you better be careful, you're so skinny, these people can't see you
her: haha
me: are you a cowgirl? (she was wearing cowboy boots)
her: no i just like these boots
me: they are pretty cool


Blah, Blah, Blah. We chat about school. She is a music major. I love to talk music. We discuss a few bands and a few musical eras and genres. She stopped and gave me her attention. We connected a little bit over music.

me: lets get a drink sometime and continue are discussion about music
her: ok


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Trader Joes approach about 20 minutes ago. I was leaving the store. I see a hot white girl walking in from the other entrance. Tight black yoga pants, tight top, banging body, early 20's. I turn around and walk right back in the store. I follow her to the produce section. She is looking at apples..

me: hey you look nice today
her: thanks
me: did you have yoga class?
her: no i just like the dress comfy
me: how do you keep you body looking so good?
her: ha just good genetics I guess
me: you from around here?
her: no san diego
me: oh you gonna be freezing up here
her: i know i already am
me: whay brings you to the bay
her: school
me: where?
her: sf city college
me: oh fuck, the coldest school in the bay
her: i know
me: are you single?
her: no

Fuuucckkk!!!

Lesson learned! I will never again ask a girl if she is single. It gives her a chance to shut down your approach with a simple one world answer - "no". I tried to ignore it and plough on but she wasn't giving me solid eye contact or asking me anything so I bailed.

I am trying to be more sexually direct, more apologetically sexual. I was motivated by this thread..

This mindset is blowing my mind

It's alot of fun being sexually direct and I must admit that I love it!!!

i hear ya re being direct, but i think unless your frame is very strong or you're very good looking, it's not easy to pull off

with the yoga chick, i think you're asking too many questions, maybe showing a little bit too much interest too early, though if you can handle getting a lot of blowouts then that's fine, i guess it means you're screening out the ones who are not dtf
i tihnk a better strategy is to throw a couple of thoughts or opinions back at her, based on some of her answers, or go into some sort of funny story related to one of her answers, that way you're building some comfort, and i think she'll be more receptive to a bit more direct game afterwards
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Quote: (09-24-2012 02:18 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Trader Joes approach about 20 minutes ago.

me: hey you look nice today
her: thanks
me: did you have yoga class?
her: no i just like the dress comfy

I have read ad-nauseum on this forum to not compliment a woman (ego-boost) while running daygame but you seem to employ it and it appears to turn out well (continued conversation). How does a compliment of an article of clothing compare to outright saying she looks nice in daygame situations?
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Quote: (09-24-2012 04:13 PM)WesternCancer Wrote:  

I've been thinking a lot about the "sweep her off her feet method" Like in roosh's new video girls here will fuck when they are on an emotional high. Emotions are the language of girls so why not try to overwhelm them in a short period of time then get your bang on.

Exactly! We are trying to create an emotional "high" for them. Trying to get them to feel feelings that they rarely have or never have This is my new approach to day game. Sweep them off their feet before they know what hit them. Approach with swag and confidence that they have rarely experienced. It's tough but it's fun to work at it. It's really all in the delivery. I feel like an actor or stand up comedian working at his craft. It's all in the delivery!

Quote: (09-24-2012 04:20 PM)Lothario Wrote:  

Hey Giovanny, here's the update.... We made plans last week for doing an outdoor activity tentatively this tuesday after her class finishes at 12:30, called her sunday , She didn't pick up, I left a message, No call back............ I sent a text at Lunch today, N.o response as of yet...... [Image: angry.gif]

I also had a brutal rejection at Lunch time approach today, will post later when I have time to type..

Well, at least you got a hot 20yo out on a date. That's how I know your game is getting better. First you learn how to talk to them, then you learn how to get them out on a date, then you learn how to close them. It's a learning process.
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Quote: (09-25-2012 10:32 AM)RougeNoir Wrote:  

Quote: (09-24-2012 02:18 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Trader Joes approach about 20 minutes ago.

me: hey you look nice today
her: thanks
me: did you have yoga class?
her: no i just like the dress comfy

I have read ad-nauseum on this forum to not compliment a woman (ego-boost) while running daygame but you seem to employ it and it appears to turn out well (continued conversation). How does a compliment of an article of clothing compare to outright saying she looks nice in daygame situations?

Compliments on style, choice of whatever prop you use to open/ramble don't count in my opinion in daygame. I've had pretty solid success with it. Compliments on looks however are a no no.
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Quote: (09-25-2012 05:59 AM)amity Wrote:  

i hear ya re being direct, but i think unless your frame is very strong or you're very good looking, it's not easy to pull off

You're right. To go direct you better have a strong damn frame! I do!

Being good looking helps alot too. Thankfully, I look okay. Dressing sharp helps also.

Quote: (09-25-2012 05:59 AM)amity Wrote:  

with the yoga chick, i think you're asking too many questions, maybe showing a little bit too much interest too early

Thank you for saying this!

After I post these approaches, I read them. They do often sound like I'm interviewing the girl. I'm trying to get away from this. I was waiting for someone to point this out and I'm glad you did. I do ask too many questions too early in the interaction. I am focused on improving in this area! Thanks for your advice.

Quote: (09-25-2012 10:32 AM)RougeNoir Wrote:  

I have read ad-nauseum on this forum to not compliment a woman (ego-boost) while running daygame but you seem to employ it and it appears to turn out well (continued conversation).

I don't know what ad-nauseum means but I will say this...

Take the advice on this forum as a guide not as law. Go out and experiment with your own techniques and see what you are comfortable with. Personally, I like to go direct and I am becoming more sexually direct. I want to screen for who is attracted to me and who is dtf in the first few minutes of the interaction. Maybe in the future in will tone it down but for now, this is what I like. I don't like to waste time beating around the bush.

I believe in this..

Quote: (09-22-2012 12:20 AM)WesternCancer Wrote:  

This is a great mindset to have. I always assume attraction and I'm beginning to view most talking as just as a formality before fucking. It kind of hit me at the start of this year when I overheard this group of girls saying how hot these guys were (they were in a group nearby) and how one of the chicks should go talk to them. Girls are just begging to be approached, yearning for a knowledgeable man to sweep them off their feet and fuck the everloving shit out of them. Why do you think they dress nice, make eye contact with you. Why else would they brush their thigh across you when moving through a tight area why else would they accidentally touch their hand to yours when you hand them something. They are begging to be fucked by someone like us, someone who isn't a pussy or socially retarded. They want dick but are equivalent to beta males; they will never approach unless drunk. It's up to you to go and take what you want.


Quote: (09-25-2012 10:32 AM)RougeNoir Wrote:  

How does a compliment of an article of clothing compare to outright saying she looks nice in daygame situations?

Well, I have done alot of both. Complimenting an article of clothing is slightly less direct. Outright saying she looks nice is the ultimate in direct game. Some people will want to start with the safer option of just complimenting her clothes or shoes or something. That's fine. I prefer to start with the more difficult option. Compliment her directly. I think its more powerful. It builds your confidence faster.

But, there is a time for both! Use them both in the appropriate situation.

If a girl looks freaky and sexual, I might go more direct.

If she looks more conservative, I might go more conservative.

Sometimes, it just depends on how I feel on that day.

Experiment with both and come up with your on conclusions for what works best for you.

I also do indirect sometimes when the situation calls for it.

We have to be prepared to use all types of approaches - indirect, direct, and a combo of both.

Quote: (09-25-2012 11:49 AM)rationalize_this Wrote:  

Compliments on looks however are a no no.

It all depends on your looks and your frame and your confidence level. You can say it from a place of inferiority or you can say it form a place of superiority. Last year, I probably had a bit of neediness when I complimented. Now, I am getting much better at saying with confident masculinity. Like I am superior to the girl and I am merely pointing out what I want. I can go direct. I am that confident. I can compliment her looks without expressing any neediness.

Krauser and many of the top day gamers in the business use a direct approach. Of course, they balance it out with a slight tease.

http://www.rooshv.com/direct-day-game-for-beginners
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Quote: (09-25-2012 12:42 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Quote: (09-25-2012 05:59 AM)amity Wrote:  

with the yoga chick, i think you're asking too many questions, maybe showing a little bit too much interest too early

Thank you for saying this!

After I post these approaches, I read them. They do often sound like I'm interviewing the girl. I'm trying to get away from this. I was waiting for someone to point this out and I'm glad you did. I do ask too many questions too early in the interaction. I am focused on improving in this area! Thanks for your advice.

Thanks for your input on my Approach follow up Gio, THe problem you are describing above, I had a problem like that too, Guess who helped me with that .......Uncle Roosh..... I would say go back and read Bang and Day Bang on Rambling which is where your conversation flows more naturally rather then an Interview style convo.

Roosh timed me on my approaches and asked me not to ask any question, and I was doing so badly, opening with questions, question at 3 sec 8 sec mark. Roosh wanted me to ramble at the very least for 30 seconds befoe going on to a question. I saw roosh rable about Socks for a whole 5 min, give me a break..... My rambling has gotten better and am getting better results. I will dig up my old notes and see if there is any thing else.

"You can not fake good kids" - Mike Pence
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Quote: (09-25-2012 01:50 PM)Lothario Wrote:  

Thanks for your input on my Approach follow up Gio, THe problem you are describing above, I had a problem like that too, Guess who helped me with that .......Uncle Roosh..... I would say go back and read Bang abd Day Bang on Rambling which is where your conversation flows more naturally rather then an Interview style convo.

Roosh timed me on my approaches and asked me not to ask any question, and I was doing so badly, opening with questions, question at 3 sec 8 sec mark. Roosh wanted me to ramble at the very least for 30 seconds befoe going on to a question. I saw roosh rable about Socks for a whole 5 min, give me a break..... My rambling has gotten better and am getting better results. I will dig up my old notes and see if there is any thing else.

Thanks dude. Starting today, I am asking less questions and rambling more. I have never read Bang. I probably should!
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Lunch time Bust:Yesterday I spot an Asian on a Lunch Table studying (Table for 4) I sit down and start eating my Lunch paying no attention to her, She was studying what looked like DNA structure.

I finish my Lunch and start reading RVF on my Phone and open with

ME: Genetics was like the most difficult thing for me
Her: Yeah I hate it...
Me: You must have a test coming up
Her: yes, In about an hour.
Me: I'm detecting an accent, Let me Guess you are Korean.
Her: yeah, How do you know.
Me: My ex-gf was korean, let's not talk about her though [Image: smile.gif]
Her: Smiling Ok.
Me: So what are studying to be...


Next 5 min standard convo about her and me, She did ask me what do I do , I DHV'd , her eyes spazzed out and we talked for a good 10-15 min total.

As we were parting I suggested to exchange numbers and she said NO with a blunt face, I wasn't expecting that and reiterated " to carry on the conversation" and She said one word NO and left.........

"You can not fake good kids" - Mike Pence
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Quote: (09-25-2012 02:04 PM)Lothario Wrote:  

ME: Genetics was like the most difficult thing for me
Her: Yeah I hate it...
Me: You must have a test coming up
Her: yes, In about an hour.
Me: I'm detecting an accent, Let me Guess you are Korean.
Her: yeah, How do you know.
Me: My ex-gf was korean, let's not talk about her though [Image: smile.gif]
Her: Smiling Ok.
Me: So what are studying to be...


Next 5 min standard convo about her and me, She did ask me what do I do , I DHV'd , her eyes spazzed out and we talked for a good 10-15 min total.

As we were parting I suggested to exchange numbers and she said NO with a blunt face, I wasn't expecting that and reiterated " to carry on the conversation" and She said one word NO and left.........

I was expecting much worse since you said "brutal blowout". This ain't shit! I get blown out like this once a day! NEXT!

Quote: (09-24-2012 04:35 PM)rationalize_this Wrote:  

You guys ever run out of steam/ lose interest in a girl mid ramble?

Coffee shop approach just now

18 yr old blonde

Yes, but I have never lost interest in an 18 yo blond!

What made you lose interest? Was she that ugly?
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Have you guys ever gotten to the point where you are tired of approaching, or even interacting with women, but just want to have sex with them?

I'm not trolling. Being serious.
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I was at my apartment grilling out with a couple of friends the other day and we saw this girl who lives 2 two doors down from me on the second floor. She was playing with her dog and kept looking over at us. My friends put me on the hot-seat and said I should get her to come chill with us.

I took some sausage off the grill and put it on a plate. With a plate of sausage in my left hand and a spatula in my right I walked up to her door and knocked on it with the spatula. The door opened and I'm greeted by a mexican dude in the background there's a huge white guy and a black dude with that girl on the couch staring at me.

Me:Oh hey, what's up guys.
Guy: Hey
Me:We're grilling out down there. We have drinks, burgers, and uh sausage.

I don't remember the exact conversation but it was funny. I tried to play it off like I was asking all my neighbors if they wanted to hangout.
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Quote: (09-25-2012 02:52 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

Have you guys ever gotten to the point where you are tired of approaching, or even interacting with women, but just want to have sex with them?

Well, of course I just want to have sex with them with the minimum effort needed..

But, I never really get tired of approaching. Here's why..

Approaching is not just a means to get sex. Approaching is also a means to get better. Approaching is also a reinforcement of my fearlessness. Approaching a test of my masculine power. I might get tired of interacting with girls who I not gonna bang but I never get tired of getting better, and I never get tired of reducing my fear while increasing my confidence. I never get tired of challenging myself to get better.

I get stronger with each approach.

How could I get tired of something that is making more confident, improving my game, and bringing me sex!
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Quote: (09-25-2012 03:22 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Quote: (09-25-2012 02:52 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

Have you guys ever gotten to the point where you are tired of approaching, or even interacting with women, but just want to have sex with them?

Well, of course I just want to have sex with them with the minimum effort needed..

But, I never really get tired of approaching. Here's why..

Approaching is not just a means to get sex. Approaching is also a means to get better. Approaching is also a reinforcement of my fearlessness. I might get tired of interacting with girls who I not gonna bang but I never get tired of getting better, and I never get tired of reducing my fear while in creasing my confidence.

I get stronger with each approach.

How could I get tired of something that is making more confident, improving my game, and bringing me sex!

I'm just used to bitches approaching me. For months I've had to at least initiate contact. Just a couple hours ago a middle class 8 stared at me hard when I overtook her on the sidewalk. I almost belted out a hateful "QUE?". Don't look at me bitch, fucking say something.

In the U.S. even wearing something unique will give girls the reason to come up and compliment. Bam. There it is. It saves me from having to cull through the bar to find out who like me. Yeah I'm lazy. Yesterday this chick wouldn't stop flipping her hair and gave every body signal. She was 15 ft. away and I didn't see the reason in even getting up from my chair.

Damn I'm fucking tired of approaching. Blech. Approaching = work. And you're right, most aren't worth the effort.
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Quote: (09-25-2012 03:30 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

I'm just used to bitches approaching me.

Fuck, that must be nice!

When you are in the USA, do you have to approach?

Or, is this just a Dominican Republic thing?

Location is so important!

My brother went to the Philippines he got approached like crazy! He said the same would happen to me.
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Sometimes i love approaches where i become completely numb and i dont have much to say.

I just left the gym and i was sweating like a motherfucker. I see this phat ass chick walking towards my direction and im thinking (DAMNNN), she walks inside this shop before she gets to me, im thinking twice if i should walk inside the shop and move to her or i should just go home. I think fuck it, let me approach.

Me = hey whats up (they speak spanish where im at, i said that shit in english)

Her= hmm

Me = (switch to spanish), i saw you walking in and i wanted to get to know you.

Her = (smiles) oh ok..shakes hand im xxx

Me= im pitt, do you live around here?

Her= no im just shopping here

Me = oh ok im from xxx, im on vacation here

her= you alone?

Me = yes and no, i have got few friends here..what you doing later? Lets go sit somewhere around here and talk

Her = sure, take my number


I take the number and im out. i didnt have enough time to build enough comfortability plus everybody in the shop was watching us, but she looked at me like she wanted to fuck me. Lets see how this goes.
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Quote: (09-25-2012 03:22 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Quote: (09-25-2012 02:52 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

Have you guys ever gotten to the point where you are tired of approaching, or even interacting with women, but just want to have sex with them?

Well, of course I just want to have sex with them with the minimum effort needed..

But, I never really get tired of approaching. Here's why..

Approaching is not just a means to get sex. Approaching is also a means to get better. Approaching is also a reinforcement of my fearlessness. Approaching a test of my masculine power. I might get tired of interacting with girls who I not gonna bang but I never get tired of getting better, and I never get tired of reducing my fear while increasing my confidence. I never get tired of challenging myself to get better.

I get stronger with each approach.

How could I get tired of something that is making more confident, improving my game, and bringing me sex!

This post is so deep and so true. I also truly believe that approaches helps you killing all your fears and im not talking just game wise, i mean eliminating all acquired or inherited fears from your life.
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Alright I did some approaches but I'm only going to post the more eventful ones because I don't want to take up a bunch of space.

Approach 1: So I was at the outlet mall, solo, trying to find some clothes and some girls. I went into Zumiez(skate store) and saw these 3 girls skipping around in a circle, holding hands. I walked past and they said hey or something but I was behind something when they said it so I didn't really reply. I looked at some stuff then walked towards them and they invited me to dance with them... At that moment I didn't really see any other way to talk to them so I said yeah and we danced for a bit, haha. It was real goofy and they were saying stuff like "ur cool!" or whatever. Well it turns out they were employees and one of them asked if I needed anything. I was like

Me: Yeah, I wanted to buy some pants
Her: Sure, what kind do you want?
Me: Well what do you think I would look good in??
Her: I really think you could rock straight legged
Me: Oh, cool where are they?


She leads me towards them and the conversation continues. She says she wants to see them on me, so I go to the changing room and change. I come out and she likes them. At this point I tried to make the conversation more personal..

Me: (I say something about school or something like that)
Her: Oh my boyfriend goes there...
Me: Oh coool.......


And then she goes out of her way to show me a picture of her boyfriend on her phone and asks if I know him, blah blah. I sense the fruitlessness of the situation and bail.

Approach 2: (my best one, so far...)
So I was posted outside a BP trying to find someone who looked like they could buy me some squares. I'm sitting in my car and I'm about to leave and then a cute(7) girl pulls up to the right of me. I wait for a second and look at her and I'm about to say something but she says

her: Oh my god we have the same car!
Me: We do?
her: Yeah! haha


Her phone goes off and she talks for a little bit while I just wait there.

me: hey how old are you?
her: 17; why were you trying to buy squares or something? *smiles*


At this point I realized she was smoking a square so that was a good sign.

me: Yeah, haha
her: What grade are you in??
me: Junior, you?
her: Senior


So we affably talk for a while about stuff like our cars, ciggs, school, and other stuff. She eventually says she has a friend at the counter who "hits on her all the time" and said she could get me some. She asks if I have $$, I said yeah and get out and walk to her car. We talk a little bit more and then she walks in.

At this point this one girl who went to my old school walks out and goes

Her2: Hey Ryan!
Me: Heey
Me: What are you doing here?
Her2: Oh I'm grounded sssso I have to walk everywhere, haha
Me: Haha, what do you got there? *I point at her cup*
Her2: Oh coffee, haha
Me: Can I have some?
Her2: Sure, it'ssss really hot though
Me: *takes a sip*


Then the other girl comes up to my side window and says

Her: So they only had the orange ones
Me: oh that's alright


So then we talk again for around 5 more minutes and then she says she has to go because she's busy. I made it a point a few times during this convo that we should hang and she agreed. I knew she was about to leave soon so I asked for her number. She was like "Yeah *smiles*" and was writing it down on a piece of paper cuz I didn't have my phone on me. And then her friend at the counter came out and asked for a ride, she said "Yeah" and after that she threw me her number and asked if I got it. I said yeah, and then said see ya or something then I left.


Overall I think this went VERY well. It was smooth, fluid, and spontaneous. Huge confidence builder, I just feel great!

Things I need to work on:
-Stop being self-conscious about eyes
I've been getting better but I just have this obsession that my eyes are like lazy eye'd or
something. I maintained eye contact a decent amount with her so that's a +.
-Escalate
I didn't really say or do anything sexual or flirty, I potentially made a new smoke buddy, but...
I just don't know what to do. I'm definitely going to text her, though. But I
don't know when I should. I was thinking tommorow, because I don't want to appear
desperate or needy. How should I continue with this?
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