Kamaki, this is an example of a post which doesn't go down that well on this forum. The reason is that most guys here prefer to spend the money to improve themselfes (looks, game, logistics etc etc) rather than paying the girl directly:
This post by you is better:
I'm not one to tell you what to write but I'm just making you a suggestion. You've already made your point that you think it is necessary to buy gift for the girls, and if you continue to stress that the discussion will only continue to be disrupted. Most guys prefer the risk of going somewhere and ending up "empty-handed" instead of paying for it.
Now, you can argue that you dont think thats p4p and I do agree to some extent with the argument that in some way or another we all pay for it, but I still FEEL like its somewhat different to improve yourself and get girls that way than to pay directly for it and maybe someone should start another thread for this almost philosopical discussion.
I remember Dash Global often writing that he had p4p as a back-up, which was kind of annoying and lowly. IMO sometimes you have to accept the risk of not getting any girls.
EDIT: May I just add that it is only p4p when one buys something for a girl and the bang is 100% dependant on this (ie it wouldn't happen otherwise). In other words, if the girl is with you ONLY because of your money. But like I said, maybe this would make an interesting and important discussion for another thread as this one is supposed to be about Polish and Ukrainian girls.
Quote: (03-14-2012 05:46 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:
What is better?Spend 400 euro on plane tickets,200 euro on apartment,200 euro in clubbing and dating to get home with your penis in hand or spend 100 euro more to have a sure fucking at least?The risk and expenses are too great to risk a fuckless travel(which commonly happens if you are naïve to believe the girls in capital will fall in love with you).
This post by you is better:
Quote: (03-14-2012 08:27 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:
Personality stage of high energy:When I am in Ukraine I get some strong Greek coffee with me because the local coffee is very weak.So I walk with coffee in my hand to be always alert and in high energy.When I spot targets I approach immediately or if they walk fast I follow them till they slow down or stop.If they enter a shop I may enter as well despite the possible cockblock by the clerk.
Easy targets:Girls on benches,girls walking slowly and laughing,girls with drinks on their hands,lone girls(who do not wait for boyfriend),university girls near the university area,girls waiting for the marshutka.
Difficult targets:Girls walking fast,girls in very big companies,very good dressed girls,girls actively shopping.
So I get close and ask themo you know where the ... theatre is?And they start giving me directions.By this time I bring the conversation to trivial topics and after a while I ask for their number or to go for coffee.If they like me they comply.
I have done super fast fucks from bus station to hotel room in less than 20 minutes or kiss closes very quickly.
Generally I have King style.Where I am I dominate the place.There is no way anybody can be an obstacle to me they may try but they will get beaten.
The percentage of girls who respond on street is about 5%.So you need to approach at least 20 women per day.So since the proportion of good looking women is 10%(they are my targets) and I approach 20 of them everyday after one week I will have approached the 10% of all targets in a medium populated city.(half a million).So if I stay longer I start to lose anonymity.
In cities with population over 2 millions this problem does not exist.
I'm not one to tell you what to write but I'm just making you a suggestion. You've already made your point that you think it is necessary to buy gift for the girls, and if you continue to stress that the discussion will only continue to be disrupted. Most guys prefer the risk of going somewhere and ending up "empty-handed" instead of paying for it.
Now, you can argue that you dont think thats p4p and I do agree to some extent with the argument that in some way or another we all pay for it, but I still FEEL like its somewhat different to improve yourself and get girls that way than to pay directly for it and maybe someone should start another thread for this almost philosopical discussion.
I remember Dash Global often writing that he had p4p as a back-up, which was kind of annoying and lowly. IMO sometimes you have to accept the risk of not getting any girls.
EDIT: May I just add that it is only p4p when one buys something for a girl and the bang is 100% dependant on this (ie it wouldn't happen otherwise). In other words, if the girl is with you ONLY because of your money. But like I said, maybe this would make an interesting and important discussion for another thread as this one is supposed to be about Polish and Ukrainian girls.