Quote: (06-28-2015 09:45 PM)Samseau Wrote:
Quote: (06-28-2015 04:04 AM)civpro Wrote:
The OP deals with the obscure world of cold approach pickup and its own set of rules. For most ordinary men, this is how they should strategize landing a girlfriend/LTR/life partner:
- A girl they meet through a social circle/social introduction
- Of the same race
- Within +2/-5 years in age
- 5 inches shorter
- Of equal fitness level or slightly worse
- Of equal facial attractiveness or slightly better
- Of equal academic achievement or somewhat worse
Now you can fiddle with these specifications -
* Aim higher and have it increasingly harder. (The better your job is the higher you can legit aim.)
* Aim lower and have it increasingly easier.
* Turn to cold approach instead of social circle and have it harder to achieve the same quality.
So that's up to you. But the point is that the specifications set out above however - that archetype - is your societal "match". And at that level the hustle to results ratio is at its most optimized/efficient.
This makes no sense, sorry man. I'm talking about why sex is necessary to build a relationship, then you start talking about ideal matches via social circles. Your post is irrelevant, because even if she's an ideal match through a social circle you should still go for sex ASAP.
Also I've seen guys land way hotter through cold approach than what their social circle offers them.
How does this not make sense? How is it irrelevant? Just because you say so?
Your OP ponders, as per its title, "Do you want a LTR/girlfriend? Here's how to get one." My response provides the best answer for guys.
The body of your OP is coloured by your cold approach gangsta playa experiences and you offer up, even for social circle situations, the most common form of 'situation' in the world, in which, you know, people know each other, value each other, and see other routinely... a kamikaze FIRST DATE BANG OR BUST strategy that contemplates MASSIVE attrition rates where 95 times out of 100 you're written off wholesale as a disposable "rando". Durrrr OK.
If she's someone you met through a social circle then you DON'T need to go for sex ASAP. That's right. In fact, this divide is so pronounced that for certain people, who are in certain social circles, one can get into an LTR without even the occurrence of sex prior to it and for months subsequent and STILL have had a better chance with the girl than by coming in as the ruthless, systematic cold approacher.
If you're the common man who wants an LTR, and an LTR is exactly what you want and ALL you want, then aim for your socially introduced value-match as I specified. That's the best way to get it. You can use any type of sexual speed or game (within reason) and you're still better off LTR-wise than the PUA.
But if you want to be a player who runs through quantity based on his superior R-selection/'shininess' value, then that's what high volume cold approach pick up is for. As for guys dating up through cold approach, while it does happen from time to time, it is the exception to the rule, which in my experience is 8+/10 guys servicing girls in the 4-7/10 range. (Ever heard of the 80/20 rule?) For homegrown proof head on over to the +1 Notch thread, where you'll see that it's overwhelmingly notches from 1) Online Game - no debate on what that's all about, and 2) Nationality Game - Anglo guys banging foreigners, mainly Asians. Dating 'up' mainly comes out in social circles, where your character, status, and prospects can be vouched for and leveraged (over your looks) for LTRs.