Quote: (11-26-2018 12:44 PM)Professor When Wrote:
... for validation from women, but logically I am aware that they really don't offer me very much. So I get pangs of loneliness every now and then (craving that burger) but when I actually try to interact with women they really disgust me. Part of it is their complete lack of enthusiasm since I'm still unattractive. Right now I'm focusing on fitness and just gaming when the opportunity arises. But that's just me.
I've been on a few dates where the women cannot talk about anything beyond what they're watching on netflix. More likely it's that the only women that are on my level right now are the boring ones. Getting countless "I don't know" or "nothing really" answers when I try to find out what these girls like, what they do, or what they think about is just not worth my effort.
I'm sorry to say that my experience on this front gives me even more evidence of the halo effect. The same women that would enjoy your curiosity might find my curiosity to be "inappropriate" or "too forward." I'm reasonably convinced that for me (and presumably this guy) that the key is just making yourself look better and the personality that women find "creepy" will eventually become "quirky" instead.
A woman being receptive to you is a big part, and you are on your way in that department.
But I would say what you think is "curiosity" is not the curiosity I mean. It's the curiosity to want to understand the female mind, and when you say they "disgust you," it's not a stretch to extrapolate you are not curious about the female mind.
Asking someone "so tell me about yourself" or "tell me what you like" is a good way to get answers you don't care about hearing. Ask them what you want to know. I like to know who they are, where they're from, what makes them tick, WHY are they this way, etc. Everyone has a past, dreams and desires. Talk about those, not netflix.
The junk food analogy has been made before, but with regards to lower quality girls who aren't necessarily boring, but below par physically. I figured out very early in my gaming days that indeed, junk food kills. I hated finishing a bang with some girl I was not into, and felt like I was wasting my time. Although looking back that practice was still necessary.
You need to have the emotional impetus to go on this journey of discovering this girl. If you don't have the impetus, you're not going to care about figuring her out, and even if you do, nothing will save the interaction.
You seem to be preoccupied with the typical catchphrases women and feminists use to make men feel awkward and evil. It seems to affect you a lot. Especially creep and inappropriate. As Patrice said, "inappropriate is a female word." Part of game is taking stuff in stride and always keeping your own personal "mental structure," or "frame" to use PUA jargon, intact. Women who use these words are testing you. It's part of the puzzle. If these words frazzle you, you've lost. But truthfully, I have never heard these words being directed at me. As Scorpion said, something about your presentation is triggering these alarm bells, and you have to figure that out.
Game is called "game" for a reason. Some of us have to play on a harder difficulty level than others, such is life. It seems to me you are still struggling in that first level, accepting the reality that you will have to work harder than others, and expending valuable energy feeling sorry for yourself.
One of my favorite things to talk about with women, (after lots and lots of sex of course) is how I was born completely average. I'm 5'10", brown-ish, average build (but above average physique and athleticism due to training), average looks, balding, average career, average intellect, average dick, pretty much average everything.
Anything I get for myself,
I worked for it. I WANT a girl to just say 'Meh, he looks alright.' That's right b, and you still gargled my nuts. That means I fucking earned that pussy, and everything else of note that comes my way.
Fine. You've got step 1. Game is hard and shit is stacked against you. When are you going to move to step 2?
Don't let Incel Jesus 1000 and his flawed experiences keep you in step 1. He hasn't taught us anything we don't know.