[desperado]

Ok, I'm cancelling my tickets to Poland and Ukraine. Fuck it.

[Zoso]

(02-23-2018 12:36 PM)TigerTim Wrote:  

Some guys might not be banging women on a daily basis in their home countries because they are not attracted by those women to begin with. If I lived in an Asian country I wouldnt be banging women because I'm not sexually attracted/turned on by Asian women hence I would have to go to other countries where the women I am attracted/turned on at least exist.

I second that. I don't care about women in my homeland. I have fucked some of them in the past but now just don't have interest in local women.
Simply it doesn't make sense for me investing time in those who don't excite me.

[TravelerKai]

(03-04-2018 04:31 PM)JohnQPublic Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 11:42 AM)Aladdin Wrote:  

What are you talking about? My game is being local.
You are the one who travels thousands of miles, spends a shitload of money and leaves empty handed.
I don't have to do anything to pull. Just show up.
Nuff said.

(03-04-2018 12:41 PM)Aladdin Wrote:  

I just read that Teddy Bear heading to the Philippines for easy lays. I haven't reached that point yet, but I'm pretty close. I can't pull so easy anymore, as I'm 45. But I do pull, as I look younger.

EE is finished, guys. R.I.P

A little bit hard to follow. You just show up at home but it's harder to pull in other countries? If you are Polish, what about some info on smaller towns that could be good. And what about those Polish beach cities in the North? Any interesting opportunities?

(03-05-2018 04:53 PM)desperado Wrote:  

Ok, I'm cancelling my tickets to Poland and Ukraine. Fuck it.

Are you guys really fooled this easily?

It's pretty obvious that an old local is trying to scare you guys away because he does not want to compete with more and more younger guys stealing the women he used to be able to get.

This is exactly if a 40 year old Chinese dude in China got on the forum and said that China is finished and there is no more women to game here. No one and I mean nobody on RVF in China would believe this shit. We would laugh that clown off the forum!

Yet here you guys are listening to a local.

As if local dude problems are the same as foreign guy problems.

Half the time local men do not even like the same women we like. For instance they make not like girls with asses, short girls, girls with black hair, or girls with round faces, or whatever. Guys like us hit up a joint, beeline for what we feel like is a solid 6 or 7, chat her up, and it's the most attention she's gotten in months. She feels good that a foreigner singled her out and made her feel special.

The longer I have been in the Manosphere, the more I realize that a local cannot tell a foreigner shit about their own women. Aside from obvious culture stuff/manners/etc. they really cannot tell you much outside of logistics. Also, many are gaslighting you and trying to cockblock you, because they are salty about outside men.

We are like Joe in this RnB song here:

We do all the things these local guys WILL NOT DO for these ladies. I bet this dude is sitting around crusty like these girls dad expecting a blowjob while being distant and lame the whole evening. Like that bitch owes his ass something. Locals are FULL of entitlement guys. Girls ain't blowing their dads fellas.

Wake UP!!!

Use your brain! Haters are EVERYWHERE. Learn to see through the bullshit!

[Bigmac4u]

Blah, most local women have realized foreign guys are like vacuum cleaner salesmen with nothing to really offer besides dick for a day or two.

[TravelerKai]

Maybe that is true for you, but it certainly is not true for everyone else. Even a pump n dump should be a net positive experience for both involved. Being classless and rude catches up with you in the long run.

[JohnQPublic]

@TravelerKai: Was giving Aladdin an opportunity to redeem himself.
It doesn't matter to me whether or not he can pull. I think there are a majority of girls who are interested mostly in just local guys and the ones who are like "no local guys" or "only exotic guys" are a minority. There seem to be lots of angry EE men on this forum.

[TravelerKai]

(03-06-2018 11:22 AM)JohnQPublic Wrote:  

@TravelerKai: Was giving Aladdin an opportunity to redeem himself.
It doesn't matter to me whether or not he can pull. I think there are a majority of girls who are interested mostly in just local guys and the ones whoare like "no local guys" or "only exotic guys" are a minority. There seem to be lots of angry EE men on this forum.

That's fair, because even in Asia there are gals that would never touch a foreigner no matter how much of her language you speak or your level of game, as well as the complete opposite.

Why are there lots of angry EE men on the forum? Are foreigners pissing them off with stag parties, etc? Or is there some other reason for the saltiness?

[Bigmac4u]

(03-06-2018 11:19 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Maybe that is true for you, but it certainly is not true for everyone else. Even a pump n dump should be a net positive experience for both involved. Being classless and rude catches up with you in the long run.

Lol, a pump n dump is just what every woman is looking for! Nothing more classy!

[Putin Closes]

Its natural for local men to get angry at foreigners competing for the the local talent. EE is no exception.

[DrCotard]

This thread has given me motivation to travel to Poland to spend quality time.

[Aladdin]

NO. I'm not angry with foreigners. NO. I'm not trying to scare the foreigners neither I'm afraid of competition.
I'm trying to make you understand that a foreigner in Poland for example has 0 VALUE nowadays.
The situation has changed dramatically and I would say Western Europe seems like a pussy paradise, if you compare it to Poland. Seriously.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(03-06-2018 06:26 PM)Aladdin Wrote:  

NO. I'm not angry with foreigners. NO. I'm not trying to scare the foreigners neither I'm afraid of competition.
I'm trying to make you understand that a foreigner in Poland for example has 0 VALUE nowadays.
The situation has changed dramatically and I would say Western Europe seems like a pussy paradise, if you compare it to Poland. Seriously.

You are a troll of some sort.

A RVF member and British Indian moved to Poland some 2 years ago and fucked over 100 women in that time. And he is no super-good looking bloke - has just above average Game and intelligence. Online Game and some Daygame was sufficient to net those results.

Plenty of other guys do the same.

You have zero value in Poland just as you have close to zero value here and fill only the troll quota.

Western Europe is a pussy paradise with far inferior gender ratios under age 35 and the fattening being much greater there?

[Aladdin]

Over 100 women in 2 years? Not very good looking guy with just above average game? I believe it, if he banged 2s & 3s. Should everyone head to Poland to get a 2? Seriously, man, that sounds super arrogant in the current climate.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(03-06-2018 07:02 PM)Aladdin Wrote:  

Over 100 women in 2 years? Not very good looking guy with just above average game? I believe it, if he banged 2s & 3s. Should everyone head to Poland to get a 2? Seriously, man, that sounds super arrogant in the current climate.

Whatever troll. I saw him successfully get a number of a 6-7 girl in her prime.

Enough of this.

[Pointer]

I agree with the guy that simply based on your nationality, you have no extra value in EE. In fact there are some stereotypes that you'll have to dismiss when approaching a girl. For example if you're British you'll automatically fall into the drunk horny stagger category unless proven otherwise. Game is mandatory and if you want quality then learning the local language above a B2 level is required.
However, saying that Western Europe is a pussy paradise is pure trolling. If anything it's getting worse.
I would rank Canada as the worst country to be a young 18 to 35 man with WE following close behind. Of course WE is a lot more diverse but whether you look at Portugal, France, Switzerland or Belgium they all have in common the same thing: entitled, spoiled women with sub-par looks.

[Aladdin]

Getting a number from a 6 - 7 in Poland means absolutely nothing.

[Rocha]

(03-06-2018 07:12 PM)Aladdin Wrote:  

Getting a number from a 6 - 7 in Poland means absolutely nothing.

That might be true. Universal fact indeed.

From the number to the bang can be still a long way to go, if it ever happens.

[bigbadpua]

Eastern Europe still is much more enjoyable than the west - only exception comes to mind is Finland. Having lived in the Baltics for 6 years, and traveled Europe in between, left my native Germany 9 years ago. Have to say it is not as good as it used to be. But still good enough.

[Bigmac4u]

(03-06-2018 07:02 PM)Aladdin Wrote:  

Over 100 women in 2 years? Not very good looking guy with just above average game? I believe it, if he banged 2s & 3s. Should everyone head to Poland to get a 2? Seriously, man, that sounds super arrogant in the current climate.

Lol, the stuff people believe on the this forum... The guy was either paying for it or pulling 60 year old bags in old folks homes with Rohypnol.

[Bigmac4u]

(03-06-2018 07:09 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(03-06-2018 07:02 PM)Aladdin Wrote:  

Over 100 women in 2 years? Not very good looking guy with just above average game? I believe it, if he banged 2s & 3s. Should everyone head to Poland to get a 2? Seriously, man, that sounds super arrogant in the current climate.

Whatever troll. I saw him successfully get a number of a 6-7 girl in her prime.

Enough of this.

What number would these chicks be? Getting numbers are easy. They are not use to pressure sales techniques otherwise known as "game". So they'll do it. But since they have no real ambition or imagination it usually goes no where.

[James Bond Next level]

I myself am a quality over quantity kind of guy. Having traveled a lot to EE these last years, I think it is getting more westernized every day hence the "getting worse" part. However, dates are easier to get and there are quality girls to find.
So to sum up what every experienced traveler said before me :

You want lots of easy lay ? Stay in the west, preferably in big cities
You want quality non-westernized girls ? Flee the west but don't expect fast sex

This last year, I realized "good" girls in terms of looks and personality can be found in any country. But they are not in clubs, not on tinder, not in big cities. You have to dig deeper, in small private events, social circle, daygame, village or whatever. Only our lack of creativity and laziness prevent us from finding them.
That's why I'm moving to a smaller town and don't go to clubs anymore. In game or business, simple & easy options are usually the worst...

[The Alpha Virgin]

Haha! What a fucking thread?

How can a thread about a topic like this even turn into such huge arguments and bitching? It's interesting in a way.

I guess it's just that too many guys put this huge ego into how much pussy they can get and being more successful than the other guy at it.
But it really shouldn't matter, because just by the fact that you take time out of your day and life to argue with someone online and tell him what a loser he is for not being as successful with women as you, most probably means you're not doing what you should be doing with your life anyway.



With that said I haven't been too amazed at the little of what I've seen from Eastern Europe. Sure, I've seen some nice spots in Southern Poland but I would have to spend more time there to make more a better judgement.

Also, I very much prefer warm and extroverted women. I think those are easier to find in South America. So I'd say that's an alternative destination to EE. Some places in South America are more religious and conservative and I believe it's one of the better places to find the type of women guys on here usually want for LTR (well, at least for myself).

[RedPillUK]

(02-24-2018 05:42 AM)Bikal Wrote:  

(02-24-2018 01:09 AM)Rocha Wrote:  

Nobody in Europe likes Polish people.

They are a very strange bunch.

I'd rather hire a Polish person than a British person to do most jobs we've got going, unfortunately there aren't enough Polish people since Brexit. I also find their humour, life experiences and way of doing things to be completely refreshing compared to the drab British way and I'm not the only person with this opinion.

I wouldn't say they're strange but different and not what your used to, while the Polish game scene is pretty much over, Polish people are still awesome and don't get me started on the gorgeous food

I presume you hold the opinion you do as you didn't do well in Poland?

What are you doing in Britain then? We're full already, go to Poland and hire all the cheap Poles you like.

[bobdoe]

(03-03-2018 05:20 AM)The Alpha Virgin Wrote:  

What about Belarus ?

That country always seem to be forgotten in discussions about Eastern Europe, yet a few of the most high quality girls I've seen with not just looks going for them, have been from there. But I also have never been there.

First time poster, apologies for ignorance on the introduction etiquette...
Re: Belarus, was in Minsk a few years ago (I've been all over EE a number of times since 2010'ish)
To answer briefly, it's the most soviet of the FSU countries. Closed to a lot of the western franchises and brands. I don't enjoy saying "the girls are conservative here, the girls are liberal/westernized there" it's more a question of ratios and spectrums, in saying that, there's a lot more conservative girls than progressives there and the degree of conservativism is quite high, more than Ukr girls.
I got a lot of interest purely for being foreign there, more than anywhere else, if that feeds your ego (nothing wrong with that) then it's good, but it's a boring place if you're used to superclubs or late night party districts, variety etc... Oh and english is rare, so daygame is even more frustrating.
Meh...go if you want but it's not great just because it's untapped.

[Buddydowrongright2]

(03-06-2018 11:29 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(03-06-2018 11:22 AM)JohnQPublic Wrote:  

@TravelerKai: Was giving Aladdin an opportunity to redeem himself.
It doesn't matter to me whether or not he can pull. I think there are a majority of girls who are interested mostly in just local guys and the ones whoare like "no local guys" or "only exotic guys" are a minority. There seem to be lots of angry EE men on this forum.

That's fair, because even in Asia there are gals that would never touch a foreigner no matter how much of her language you speak or your level of game, as well as the complete opposite.

Why are there lots of angry EE men on the forum? Are foreigners pissing them off with stag parties, etc? Or is there some other reason for the saltiness?

Can't speak for the rest of EE, but my experience living in Poland was that Polish men are extremely butthurt even by the idea of a foreigner sleeping with a Polish girl, especially if that foreigner is from a richer country that many Poles wouldn't mind emigrating to like the UK, US, Canada, etc. I can only speculate why this is, because I'm not a Polish man, and not all of them are butthurt about it - a handful of Polish guys I met while I was there had the attitude of "fuck it, we know we're spoiled and our chicks are hot, let's share the wealth."

But in general, the attitude I received from Polish guys was negative the second they saw me with a Polish chick or even overheard us speaking English. I almost got jumped on several occasions (thankfully never did, at least by a group of Polish dudes). The negativity/paranoia toward foreign men taking "their" women in my opinion is a fucked-up cocktail of national pride, economic shame, standard traditionalist cockblocking/slut shaming, and the unfortunately common Polish mentality of "Let's kick down the tall poppies so we're all the same."

The last one, the Tall Poppy Syndrome, is more subtle than the others, but it definitely exists. Work with Poles for a while and you will see it. Work in a Polish company and you will DEFINITELY see it. Just spend some time in the country. It is a carryover from communist times, when people were encouraged to rat out their neighbors or potentially go to prison/die. I don't blame the people who developed this mindset at all, as I think it was a subconscious method of self-defense, and thankfully it seems to be disappearing with the younger generation. But it is something to watch out for.

And then of course, you have the typical Eastern European troll: the small, chodish, computer programmer dweeb type guys who never were attractive to women growing up, and only ended up decent girlfriends or wives because of where they were born. We know this. They know this. They know they would die as virgins in the west. And yet they seem to project more arrogance and game-sensitive allergies than all of the above.

A man of this last type must have a deep hole in his mind that can never be filled, for he simply cannot forget or let lie the fact his beautiful, sweet Magda, Monika, Weronika, or Justyna used to get railed by Spanish, Italian, and Anglo cocks twice the size of his that pleased her a hundred times better before he married her... at least once that time she was on vacation in Mallorca, but probably dozens more. He will carry this shame to his grave, but only after coming onto Roosh V Forum hundreds or thousands of times to seethe and cry and write catty responses to other men who, unlike him, are actually trying to better themselves rather than project their insecurities onto others.