Quote: (04-09-2018 06:45 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:
10 mio. Congolese? We literally had that discussion somewhere else. What the fuck is wrong with you guys that you cannot question the least bit of historic madness left by the anti-White, anti-Western media that is prevalent in our times. Yes - Leopold did some atrocities, but most of it was done by other black tribes against other tribes. How the fuck did he have to manpower to kill 10 mio. Congolese in the 1890s? Congo was a country of thick jungle and has the size of UK until Austria encompassing the entire Westafrica. Leopold while doing certainly some atrocities for which he was heavily criticized in Europe had 1000 sickly soldiers with him. Even going through the jungle back then would have taken years and years. The accounts of Adam Hochshild are highly questionable - the Germans easily killed 6 mio. Jews with modern methods, but king Leopold with 1000 men massacred 10 mio. in deep jungle? You do realize that there were many different tribes constantly fighting among each other and cannibalism was still practiced there?
But yeah - it's all White Supremacy. This stupid boogeyman is sickening. Everyone you disagree with is a Nazi. And why do you assume that black lives don't matter. I even believe in reincarnation so everyone gets to be black and white in different lifetimes. But who cares about truth - all that matters is to open borders to whitey land, spit on their cultures and claim that it was 100% evil all the time.
And for the record - wanting to preserve one's culture is not supremacy, but just commons sense. The Japanese and Chinese are not called racists for wanting to preserve their unique culture. And if I criticize an ideology or what is happening in Europe, then I am not a fucking racist like the new thought police in the West is telling it.
No, it's because your grasp of historical fact is atrocious. White people aren't uniquely bad people for anything that their civilizations perpetrated, but the fact is that things like the Congo Free State, the Herero genocide, the destruction of Benin etc
were horrific atrocities. Trying to downplay them, fudge the numbers, or claim that "black people did them anyway" is weak as fuck.
I agree that tribal conflicts between Africans could definitely reach barbaric proportions, but that doesn't at all excuse the atrocities perpetrated by European colonists. It's like saying that testicular cancer isn't that bad because HIV is worse.
There was actually a very good breakdown of why genocide apologetics like yourself are completely wrong, especially with the Congo Free State. You can read it here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/comm...ologetics/
I'm sure you'll call presentation of actual historical fact "anti-white", but the truth is the truth, regardless of your feelings.
By the way, I'm an upper-caste Indian, and I can FULLY admit that the caste system was an utterly evil system that forced billions to spend their lives cleaning sewers and disposing of dead animals. I can fully admit that I and every other high caste Hindu heavily benefit from the historical legacy of this system. Does this fact hurt some fragile people's feelings? Yeah, but it doesn't fucking matter at all, because it's TRUE. It's not "anti-Hindu" to call out the caste system, just like it isn't "anti-white" to factually state the atrocities that colonists carried out.