[giama]

(02-25-2019 11:05 PM)Korrupt Wrote:  

Can somebody ban Giama please? He's making me question my life choices up to now!

LOL,

first time i went, it was like a big epiphany. Like wow if only i had known about this place years ago.

Whats crazy is there is a few level better in the d.r. None of these girls are close to the best thats out there. The 9s and 10s are on the island but there not going growing on trees there still rare, your gonna need more time and good command of Spanish to really spit good game and infiltrate the country. only so much you can do on holiday. The dominican men that have money take the BEST of the BEST. These girls are not the top shelf bar a few.

Whats also an interesting point is the general consensus talking with people who have been to brazil is that brazilian and colombian women are more hospitable and more attractive (although subjective), some view dominican women as somewhat americanised as its closer to the USA culturally, and they follow alot of american stuff, where as brazil/colombia aparently doesnt follow US culture. Will find out if they are better. Brazil has more variety of women for sure. DR is safer then brazil and cheaper cost of living and island living so its hard to beat for me. DR and brazil are like chocolate boxes you have every flavour of chocolate. from vanilla all the way to pure chocolate

[Moma]

(02-24-2019 11:19 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

You forgot the girls from Eastern Europe, that is a huge demographic. This was my main dating pool when I lived there and I hear there numbers have increased.

Sure Latin America has women, sadly that is all it has.

All EE has are women as well hahahahaa!

[Moma]

Giama arrived from nowhere and just massacred the game! Bruv, I'm loving your breakdowns! We'll have to pod it up at some point. Tell me, are you conversational in Spanish given that you lived in DR for two months?

[khalidkcl]

Damn Giama, that's some serious eye candy! How did you meet these girls? The quality is unreal.

I'm into the countries you're planning on visiting (ethiopia, DR and Colombia)

Did you speak Spanish? My Spanish is essentially zero but I'm learning using an app however it won't be enough by April.

You in London? Would be nice to share some of our travel stories and have a laugh over some pool. I was thinking, there needs to be some London meet up for our London international players.

[giama]

My spanish isnt conversational, i have enough to be polite and get by. I do need to learn properly

Some dominicans speak english. They dream of an american man so learning english is important to some, some will not know any english.

Santo Domingo has modern malls and there is clubs on avenida venezuela. You can also use tinder or badoo or tagged as apps to meet DR girls

In Puerto Plata hit the clubs up and the beaches. Even the property agent that i rented my property from is Santiago was fine (but married), there everywhere. Santiago girls are super fine. There is an area called the beauty triangle, a triangle between La Vega, santiago, Moca in this region dominican guys will tell you this is where the finest girls on the island are pound for pound. The island has fine women everywhere. in every corner.

Adrian Tropical is a nice affordable late night restaurant in santo domingo overlooking the ocean. good date spot

Even in the airport they hire a lot of 6.5s and 7s. i gamed 2 of them in 20 minutes, there sweet and hospitable.

On the buses, i met a lot of nice girls on the buses.

You can live like a king in the D.R

[Korrupt]

(02-25-2019 11:36 PM)giama Wrote:  

(02-25-2019 11:05 PM)Korrupt Wrote:  

Can somebody ban Giama please? He's making me question my life choices up to now!

LOL,

first time i went, it was like a big epiphany. Like wow if only i had known about this place years ago.

Whats crazy is there is a few level better in the d.r. None of these girls are close to the best thats out there. The 9s and 10s are on the island but there not going growing on trees there still rare, your gonna need more time and good command of Spanish to really spit good game and infiltrate the country. only so much you can do on holiday. The dominican men that have money take the BEST of the BEST. These girls are not the top shelf bar a few.

Whats also an interesting point is the general consensus talking with people who have been to brazil is that brazilian and colombian women are more hospitable and more attractive (although subjective), some view dominican women as somewhat americanised as its closer to the USA culturally, and they follow alot of american stuff, where as brazil/colombia aparently doesnt follow US culture. Will find out if they are better. Brazil has more variety of women for sure. DR is safer then brazil and cheaper cost of living and island living so its hard to beat for me. DR and brazil are like chocolate boxes you have every flavour of chocolate. from vanilla all the way to pure chocolate

Haha, you know I had the same epiphany when I visited Kenya last year! The girls in the pics you sent have that "I would love to bang them" look. So it seems an ideal place to holiday to.

You answered a question below about conversation Spanish. I think Khalid and I are using the same DuoLingo app... i hope his progress is better than mine

I think what you say about locals with money taking the best of the best pretty much applies anywhere you go, so it's a non-factor really. If you have enough game and attractiveness, then in places like this you will get what you need/want.

[Muffuguh]

Chopped up your post a bit to concentrate on the main points I want to address.

I find that London gets a lot of unjustified negativity regarding women so I wanted to share my experience and maybe provide an alternate perspective.

A bit about me: moved here few yrs ago, middle aged guy, below avg height, reasonably good body, not bad face. Good job but don't talk about it or buy pricey clothes or accessories and don't go to clubs.

In my experience, the following methods give the best results in ascending order: street, workplace, Tinder.

Street: like you, I tried the street pickup thing but the ROI was horrible. Getting a number is actually not that hard (maybe 1 in 4 number close rate), if anything the British politeness works against you in this case because girls will sooner give you their number rather than tell you they're not interested but then it goes nowhere. Of the dozens of girls I've street approached, I've closed one.

Workplace: the PUA orthodoxy is to never shit where you eat, but everyone has their own appetite for risk and it's worked for me. Have closed a total of 4 women from my jobs, 3 with the sex happening at work itself. I don't brag openly about my lifestyle but girls have a pretty good sense of who they're dealing with so don't usually push too hard for a relationship. Have had one exception who tried to make my life difficult (she just wanted a relationship and was upset I wouldn't commit) but managed to smooth it over and we're still friends.

Tinder: London runs on Tinder in my experience. I've tracked the girls I've been successful with in a spreadsheet and I'm at around 100 in 3 years. As stated I wouldn't call myself overly attractive but maybe I photograph well because several of these have been "gimmes": the girl basically texts that she wants sex and I get her an uber over to mine or go to hers, almost impossible to fuck it up. My uber rating actually took a hit because I was getting a ubers for muslim girls and the uber drivers, also muslim, weren't too happy about what was obviously happening (a lot of them question the girls in the car: where are you going, is it a friend bla bla). One was visiting from Malaysia and showed up in a hijab, we're friends on FB and now she's happily married.

Now, to your point about English women, you're right. But there's an easy way to get around this. Just ignore white women and specifically white English women. Sounds harsh but in my experience they are the most entitled, unpleasant, delusional cohort around. It's just not worth it. London has tons of extremely attractive non-white women. That's not to say that you can't land yourself a white English girl but the ROI isn't so great and for various reasons which I won't go into here the kinds of white women, particularly white English, who are in London are not likely to be positive experiences.

I could go on for days but will leave it here.

(02-12-2019 08:24 AM)Acquire Wrote:  

London, London, London.

As someone said in a previous post, nearly everything good about London is foreign.

I noticed something, and my girlfriend (astute as ever) also noticed this, and made a point of it. These London daygamers seemed to only be capable of picking up girls who were foreign.

Even guys from other bits of the UK who I know slay it with chicks in other parts of England will say that London girls are ridiculously rude and all-around difficult.

There are exceptions, of course.

I'll just throw out a quick query for you lot: How many of you have ever met with a girl from London off of a dating app, let alone it actually resulting in anything? If you have, how hot was she and was she under 25?

I'll leave it there for now.

[worldtraveler3]

Tinder is good in London?thats strange because tinder is usually harder than day and night game with lower quality

[The bone]

I've got a good friend whos a male 9, jacked and extremely good looking. He still gets very poor quality on tinder in london, he rarely manages to meet up with any girl above a 6. He also still gets flaked on by the majority of girls.

[giama]

@Mufagguh
You smashed 100 girls in 3 years on tinder?
What is the quality of these women on tinder your smashing? Whenever someone in London says they are destroying tinder when the pics are shown the girls are usually not desirable.

And smashing in london isnt hard, Most are complaining about a lack of co operative 7+ in comparison to other cities.

100 in 3 years is a lot of quantity but whats the quality like?

[Vincent Chase]

(03-01-2019 01:43 PM)Muffuguh Wrote:  

Now, to your point about English women, you're right. But there's an easy way to get around this. Just ignore white women and specifically white English women. Sounds harsh but in my experience they are the most entitled, unpleasant, delusional cohort around. It's just not worth it. London has tons of extremely attractive non-white women. That's not to say that you can't land yourself a white English girl but the ROI isn't so great and for various reasons which I won't go into here the kinds of white women, particularly white English, who are in London are not likely to be positive experiences.

I could go on for days but will leave it here.

You won't find here anyone disagreeing with that sentiment regarding white English girls in London. Extremely hard to get from online, even from social circle if you are a foreign guy or even an English guy that somewhat in their mind doesn't fit in having gone to a different school and a different upbringing etc. They work in cliques and do not get out of their comfort zone in London. When they are on holiday they'll have that symbolic foreign guy bang but in London they are stuck in their own little bubble which contains their social circle and the latest crap from the world of TV and Netflix, and there's next to nothing you can do about it. I can probably count on one hand the number of white English girls I've banged from online while non white English born girls and foreign girls such as asian, american, canadian, european exceed them in great numbers.

This is stark contrast to say white American girls in New York who are all about living life to the fullest and experiencing every moment.

It is not like they offer anything the other girls don't but it does diminish supply.

[SaintLaurentJake]

(03-02-2019 02:01 PM)Vincent Chase Wrote:  

(03-01-2019 01:43 PM)Muffuguh Wrote:  

Now, to your point about English women, you're right. But there's an easy way to get around this. Just ignore white women and specifically white English women. Sounds harsh but in my experience they are the most entitled, unpleasant, delusional cohort around. It's just not worth it. London has tons of extremely attractive non-white women. That's not to say that you can't land yourself a white English girl but the ROI isn't so great and for various reasons which I won't go into here the kinds of white women, particularly white English, who are in London are not likely to be positive experiences.

I could go on for days but will leave it here.

You won't find here anyone disagreeing with that sentiment regarding white English girls in London. Extremely hard to get from online, even from social circle if you are a foreign guy or even an English guy that somewhat in their mind doesn't fit in having gone to a different school and a different upbringing etc. They work in cliques and do not get out of their comfort zone in London. When they are on holiday they'll have that symbolic foreign guy bang but in London they are stuck in their own little bubble which contains their social circle and the latest crap from the world of TV and Netflix, and there's next to nothing you can do about it. I can probably count on one hand the number of white English girls I've banged from online while non white English born girls and foreign girls such as asian, american, canadian, european exceed them in great numbers.

This is stark contrast to say white American girls in New York who are all about living life to the fullest and experiencing every moment.

It is not like they offer anything the other girls don't but it does diminish supply.

Are a lot of these above-average foreign girls wannabe models? Its amazing to me how some of these girls can afford to live in London. It's quite expensive even for me as an American. Perhaps have to game differently than the classic cocky funny game I do in the US?

[thedarkknight]

I thought London was interracial central?

Lol

English girls are pretty xenophobic . Well the middle class ones are. Maybe that’s were the arrogance comes from?

TDK

[Vincent Chase]

(03-03-2019 12:47 AM)SaintLaurentJake Wrote:  

(03-02-2019 02:01 PM)Vincent Chase Wrote:  

(03-01-2019 01:43 PM)Muffuguh Wrote:  

Now, to your point about English women, you're right. But there's an easy way to get around this. Just ignore white women and specifically white English women. Sounds harsh but in my experience they are the most entitled, unpleasant, delusional cohort around. It's just not worth it. London has tons of extremely attractive non-white women. That's not to say that you can't land yourself a white English girl but the ROI isn't so great and for various reasons which I won't go into here the kinds of white women, particularly white English, who are in London are not likely to be positive experiences.

I could go on for days but will leave it here.

You won't find here anyone disagreeing with that sentiment regarding white English girls in London. Extremely hard to get from online, even from social circle if you are a foreign guy or even an English guy that somewhat in their mind doesn't fit in having gone to a different school and a different upbringing etc. They work in cliques and do not get out of their comfort zone in London. When they are on holiday they'll have that symbolic foreign guy bang but in London they are stuck in their own little bubble which contains their social circle and the latest crap from the world of TV and Netflix, and there's next to nothing you can do about it. I can probably count on one hand the number of white English girls I've banged from online while non white English born girls and foreign girls such as asian, american, canadian, european exceed them in great numbers.

This is stark contrast to say white American girls in New York who are all about living life to the fullest and experiencing every moment.

It is not like they offer anything the other girls don't but it does diminish supply.

Are a lot of these above-average foreign girls wannabe models? Its amazing to me how some of these girls can afford to live in London. It's quite expensive even for me as an American. Perhaps have to game differently than the classic cocky funny game I do in the US?

Many of the foreign girls are students from wealthy families staying in London for 1-3 years. Yet they will make people believe they are poor, moan about their parents not sending their money and how they hate their mums, they will go to sex parties, try every drug under the sun and whore themselves out on SA. It is sin city for them and they want to experience everything life has to offer. One girl recently told me that before she leaves London she wants to get gangbanged by five guys, and it is not that easy setting it up. It is Eric Cartman in Southpark "I do what I want". Absolutely zero responsibility or accountability.

They are attracted to high value guys and the fetching journey of the imagination. London is a theatre of dreams for a 18-23 year old girl. You'd often see foreign girls also complain how stuck up white English girls are. English girls are not known for their warmth and seem to have no interest at all in befriending foreign girls, and besides they are a completely different breed of species.

The obnoxious US cocky funny game does indeed work but is less effective in London (unless it is teenage clown game where the girl is 18 and downright retarded) where a sharp-witted and understated form of demonstration of high value works best in my opinion. I would submit that London girls generally wish to consider themselves as more sophisticated and a cut above, and foreign girls on their very arrival also play their own little routine in this stage show.

A seasoned wised up player who is high value or can demonstrate as such will find it a facile and elementary matter to get on with foreign girls in London.

[Muffuguh]

(03-02-2019 02:01 PM)Vincent Chase Wrote:  

(03-01-2019 01:43 PM)Muffuguh Wrote:  

Now, to your point about English women, you're right. But there's an easy way to get around this. Just ignore white women and specifically white English women. Sounds harsh but in my experience they are the most entitled, unpleasant, delusional cohort around. It's just not worth it. London has tons of extremely attractive non-white women. That's not to say that you can't land yourself a white English girl but the ROI isn't so great and for various reasons which I won't go into here the kinds of white women, particularly white English, who are in London are not likely to be positive experiences.

I could go on for days but will leave it here.

You won't find here anyone disagreeing with that sentiment regarding white English girls in London. Extremely hard to get from online, even from social circle if you are a foreign guy or even an English guy that somewhat in their mind doesn't fit in having gone to a different school and a different upbringing etc. They work in cliques and do not get out of their comfort zone in London. When they are on holiday they'll have that symbolic foreign guy bang but in London they are stuck in their own little bubble which contains their social circle and the latest crap from the world of TV and Netflix, and there's next to nothing you can do about it. I can probably count on one hand the number of white English girls I've banged from online while non white English born girls and foreign girls such as asian, american, canadian, european exceed them in great numbers.

This is stark contrast to say white American girls in New York who are all about living life to the fullest and experiencing every moment.

It is not like they offer anything the other girls don't but it does diminish supply.

Yeah got you, there's just so much variety in London that cohort is basically invisible to me and I don't consider it...the ones I have met in person have actually been good but yeah you're right it's tough to make happen.

[Muffuguh]

(03-03-2019 12:47 AM)SaintLaurentJake Wrote:  

(03-02-2019 02:01 PM)Vincent Chase Wrote:  

(03-01-2019 01:43 PM)Muffuguh Wrote:  

Now, to your point about English women, you're right. But there's an easy way to get around this. Just ignore white women and specifically white English women. Sounds harsh but in my experience they are the most entitled, unpleasant, delusional cohort around. It's just not worth it. London has tons of extremely attractive non-white women. That's not to say that you can't land yourself a white English girl but the ROI isn't so great and for various reasons which I won't go into here the kinds of white women, particularly white English, who are in London are not likely to be positive experiences.

I could go on for days but will leave it here.

You won't find here anyone disagreeing with that sentiment regarding white English girls in London. Extremely hard to get from online, even from social circle if you are a foreign guy or even an English guy that somewhat in their mind doesn't fit in having gone to a different school and a different upbringing etc. They work in cliques and do not get out of their comfort zone in London. When they are on holiday they'll have that symbolic foreign guy bang but in London they are stuck in their own little bubble which contains their social circle and the latest crap from the world of TV and Netflix, and there's next to nothing you can do about it. I can probably count on one hand the number of white English girls I've banged from online while non white English born girls and foreign girls such as asian, american, canadian, european exceed them in great numbers.

This is stark contrast to say white American girls in New York who are all about living life to the fullest and experiencing every moment.

It is not like they offer anything the other girls don't but it does diminish supply.

Are a lot of these above-average foreign girls wannabe models? Its amazing to me how some of these girls can afford to live in London. It's quite expensive even for me as an American. Perhaps have to game differently than the classic cocky funny game I do in the US?

Dude a u Somali girl I know lol took out a student loan and spends it on her bachelor pad in london. I didn't realize you could do that but she took out a student loan and spends the money on an studio in a city where doctors and lawyers share. But like Vincent Chase said a lot of girls view london as a themepark

[Unkown_Killa]

Tinder is actually getting on my nerves. I haven't had a single match in the last week. Even superlikes have yielded nothing. I thought the couple of Japanese girls I saw on there and superliked would respond - considering I mentioned that I lived in Japan for the last 2 years (wrote a bit in Japanese) and some of the locations in my pictures are in Japan. But not a single peep...

[Cman]

What is everyone's long term goal for those living in London?

E.g Career progression and then move? Stay and buy a house

[Lino]

(03-07-2019 07:12 PM)Cman Wrote:  

What is everyone's long term goal for those living in London?

E.g Career progression and then move? Stay and buy a house

I said it already, I was the first one to complain during my 2 years in London. Now I think it’s a good city for pussy, you can get many flags and fuck a bunch of 6-7 BUT this is not doable for anybody. You need to have something going for you. I was living in a nice flat with a view on the Thames, had a decent job, speak several languages and I believe I have some charm. The first 2 months I was sharing a house and was going on dates, paying drinks and didn’t get laid once. Once I moved in the flat I was inviting the girls straight to my place and filtering out the ones who weren’t up for it. Wasn’t going to clubs.
I banged about 20 chicks a year, most of them from online and a handful through daygame. That’s not impressive but enough to relax me from my stressfull job, I often had a rotation of 2-3 chicks.

London is very tough at the beginning, I believe it takes around 2 years to start enjoying it, I think I left too early but can’t go back due to lack of professional opportunities, the effect of the Brexit is huge in my industry.

Edit: to answer your question, prices are too high to buy in London, not worth it currently imo, if the Brexit really happens and prices drop I might consider it. But living full time in London if you aren’t earning good money isn’t an option for me.

[worldtraveler3]

Once I moved in the flat I was inviting the girls straight to my place and filtering out the ones who weren’t up for it.

So you go on a date, say to a bar, and straight invite back to back to your place? Or no need the date location.

[waughcraft]

(03-08-2019 08:37 AM)Lino Wrote:  

(03-07-2019 07:12 PM)Cman Wrote:  

What is everyone's long term goal for those living in London?

E.g Career progression and then move? Stay and buy a house

I said it already, I was the first one to complain during my 2 years in London. Now I think it’s a good city for pussy, you can get many flags and fuck a bunch of 6-7 BUT this is not doable for anybody. You need to have something going for you. I was living in a nice flat with a view on the Thames, had a decent job, speak several languages and I believe I have some charm. The first 2 months I was sharing a house and was going on dates, paying drinks and didn’t get laid once. Once I moved in the flat I was inviting the girls straight to my place and filtering out the ones who weren’t up for it. Wasn’t going to clubs.
I banged about 20 chicks a year, most of them from online and a handful through daygame. That’s not impressive but enough to relax me from my stressfull job, I often had a rotation of 2-3 chicks.

London is very tough at the beginning, I believe it takes around 2 years to start enjoying it, I think I left too early but can’t go back due to lack of professional opportunities, the effect of the Brexit is huge in my industry.

Edit: to answer your question, prices are too high to buy in London, not worth it currently imo, if the Brexit really happens and prices drop I might consider it. But living full time in London if you aren’t earning good money isn’t an option for me.

Nice. I often find daygame results in Central London are better during weekday evenings (i.e. 5pm to 9pm) than weekends in general

Strolling through West End and Piccadilly you willl find numerous foreign girls...

During weekends I notice many girls alone are usually going out to meet their partner or familiy or friends. Also the quality is not good.

However, I don't think you need a fancy apartment to get laid though. I was living in a shared house before and I was taking girls back and sometimes I went to their (girls') place... Spending £1200 - £1400 for a studio flat per month in Zone 1 locations simply isn't worth it to me even I'm already a 40% taxpayer (higher rate taxpayer),
unless you're a millionaire or a rich student of course....

Would rather keep my monthly rent capped at £900 per month for a room in a zone 1 location. Would enable me to save an additional £400 per month. I'm already saving around £1000 - £1500 per month, and if I get redundant during the next economic recession, then it's good news because I can get the redundancy pay, quit my job and use my savings to travel and game abroad lol

I used to be a student in London and I had more spare time to game, now it's just me on a full time job working for the financial services. It's also a stressful dayjob, so I usually game during the weekends instead

Would much more prefer to build my career in London, be specialized in one niche within financial services, be a freelance consultant to generate a location-independent income, and then eventually leave London for good...

[Lino]

Waughcract, I don’t disagree with you.

I had a 1 BR flat and yes, I paid a lot of money for it.
At the end of the day it depends on your priorities and what makes you happy, I lived in a few countries and shared flats before, the comfort is nowhere near as having your own place, unless you live with a good friend who is game aware but that’s doable up to your mid twenties or early 30s I think. The older you get the less you are ready to compromise on your quality of life.

[Lino]

Regarding the discussion above about which of black and mixed dudes have the most success, my perspective from a guy who lived in London and Paris:

1. Talking about the girls in general, not just the black/mixed:handsome mixed dudes kill it. A mixed dude who looks like Stephen Curry will be at the same level as a guy who looks like Ryan Gosling. Why? Because it’s a kind of universal beauty, it doesn’t scare chicks. I guess it’s also the reason why lightskin/mixed girls in general have more success than the black ones, to the point that some black girls still pretend to be mixed. There are stand up artists making fun of them, one of them is black from Cameroon and was saying in his show: « so I met this girl who was darker than me and she told me ´I’m mixed race, Mali/Ivory coast’ , I answered her « honey you’re still black ».

If you talk to young chicks in their early 20, a good proportion will tell you that the ideal man for them is mixed race. Actually that’s valid even for older chicks.

2. Now talking about the mixed chicks preference: I honestly think they date equally white and black guys, I agree with the comment from Kieran above when he said that if you see them more with black dudes it’s because these dudes are absolutely crazy about them and will run forever after them until they eventually get them. Keep in mind that a mixed girl has both black and white blood in her and depending on the way she was raised and which side of her family she spent time with she might prefer white or black dudes.

[vbezemer]

As a white guy who's mainly into black girls: London is rather difficult. I mostly had success with tinder, and the occasional club pick up (like once a month), but it's a struggle. The casual white girls (6-8) I can easily do, but a black 8....

Re apartment: I lived by myself in Marble Arch. Was very easy to have girls come over, and they were always surprised that I lived alone.
Looking for a place again now (im out of town currently), and even though a shared place is cheaper, I'd highly prefer the privacy for game reasons.

[thedarkknight]

Why you struggle to get London 8 black chicks?

I thought they would be flattered that a white guy wanted them


TDK