[giama]

yeh West indians much more likely to race mix.

I dont get as much play with african women as i do with caribbean women (being light skinned).

I remember back in 2016 when i first came on the board, i was gyming hard and averaging 3 high interest numbers each night i went out. 6s and 6.5s and occasional 7. I go to black events. was like clockwork. Then i went to this african 24 year old females bday party was a big turnout, there was a solid talent pool. i thought yeh this looks im gonna get some chics in here. i saw ZERO choosing signs that night, no interest in me. Had that been a caribbean spot pretty much guaranteed 2-3 numbers and displays of interest. Thats when i started to appreciate the subtle difference in my SMV as a light skin dude between african and caribbean women. I no longer frequent the strictly african scene, i prefer it to be somewhat mixed as its still possible for me to catch a nice Ghanian, but Nigerian girls is not my lane. Also the uncle clubs lets not even go there LOL


And you have to be more on your shit when dealing with african women generally, caribbean women have had a different historical experience, they wont expect marriage like a african women will. understanding subtle differences does really help navigating. I feel i can be broke and still get a hot caribbean chic, i dont feel i would have a chance being a broke guy chasing a african chic.

And once again thank god for south London still birthing gems. The quality of look and submissive nature she gave was actually shocking, she asked me to get in the back of the car and im looking at a 8 out of 10, all my boys have amazing south london tales.


London has shifted from caribbean towards african black community wise, so my SMV has decreased slightly just from that shift, but as we age we get very good at playing our cards in the best way possible, like a boxer who knows how to use ring craft

[giama]

and yeh the game is 5% harder/more leveled (however we look at it) for the lighter skinned guys so have to lift heavier and have just that little bit more game for the same results.

On the plus side i have got a 25% boast from being in my 30s as it gives you access to a lot of girls that are 28-32 6.5s that are forever single, submissive, past there best, no social media and happy to suck and suck and suck, i never got so much head from nice looking girls in my whole life. And im still getting the odd mature mid 20 year old chics.

I have a team of about 6 chics right now and i dont go party at all, RETENTION is key

[thedarkknight]

(02-24-2019 11:49 AM)giama Wrote:  

yeh West indians much more likely to race mix.

I dont get as much play with african women as i do with caribbean women (being light skinned).

I remember back in 2016 when i first came on the board, i was gyming hard and averaging 3 high interest numbers each night i went out. 6s and 6.5s and occasional 7. I go to black events. was like clockwork. Then i went to this african 24 year old females bday party was a big turnout, there was a solid talent pool. i thought yeh this looks im gonna get some chics in here. i saw ZERO choosing signs that night, no interest in me. Had that been a caribbean spot pretty much guaranteed 2-3 numbers and displays of interest. Thats when i started to appreciate the subtle difference in my SMV as a light skin dude between african and caribbean women. I no longer frequent the strictly african scene, i prefer it to be somewhat mixed as its still possible for me to catch a nice Ghanian, but Nigerian girls is not my lane. Also the uncle clubs lets not even go there LOL


And you have to be more on your shit when dealing with african women generally, caribbean women have had a different historical experience, they wont expect marriage like a african women will. understanding subtle differences does really help navigating. I feel i can be broke and still get a hot caribbean chic, i dont feel i would have a chance being a broke guy chasing a african chic.

And once again thank god for south London still birthing gems. The quality of look and submissive nature she gave was actually shocking, she asked me to get in the back of the car and im looking at a 8 out of 10, all my boys have amazing south london tales.


London has shifted from caribbean towards african black community wise, so my SMV has decreased slightly just from that shift, but as we age we get very good at playing our cards in the best way possible, like a boxer who knows how to use ring craft

Yeah , African women want you to step correct but that’s part of the reason I can only see myself in a long term relationship with an African. Caribbean women are fine but their community is in tatters.

I’m moving to south London in August 2020. I turn 28 next month.

I feel more hopeful about the prospects for brothers out here looking for chocolate. It’s still a market in our favour. Brothers with their shit together are sought after. There’s not many of us to go around.

TDK

[SaintLaurentJake]

Anyone try Elephant & Castle for Colombian/Latina chicas ? Heading to Europe this summer might stop by London and to get a taste of Colombian girls while visiting an old friend in Camden

[Korrupt]

(02-18-2019 04:51 PM)waughcraft Wrote:  

Just to add a little salt to the injury of this thread, Brexit will kill a London dude's opportunities to get EU girls

I totally understand why some people voted for Brexit (due to low income jobs being 'stolen' by EU workers leading to suppressed wages for years + decline of the white English working class),

BUT it will also kill a London guy's chances of getting girls. We used to import a lot of EU citizens, now they're already leaving even before the end of freedom of movement.

I was restarting tiny bit of daygaming recently in Central London after my winter break, and I definitely talked to fewer EU girls

I know I'm biased against Brexit, but some highpaying industries like finance or management consultancy will offshore London workers to the EU due to lack of passporting rights. I work in one of the highpaying industries so I've already seen a slowdown in hiring.

Also, it makes you harder to migrate to the EU/Switzerland/Norway in the future as freedom of movement will end.

For example, Switzerland offers higher disposable income than the UK for almost every job. Sure, things are expensive, but taxes are lower and rent is same as London, and you don't have to deal with crime-ridden no-go zones in London...

Back to the main point, Brexit will only make a London dude's competition for women even stiffer...


In short, Brexit ---> Hell for single London dude

I'm also anti-Brexit, but I have found ONE silver lining that I believe will come from it. Although, you it may be hell for a single London dude IN London, I think you'll see an upswing in SMV when travelling to EE countries.

For the last 10-15 years, EE girls can come and go out of UK as they please so that whole "lock a Brit down, get a visa" mentality had drained a lot. Obviously when travelling to EE countries Brits still have a +SMV but I believe, depending how the Brexit cookie crumbles, Brexit will bring that back to pre 2005 times. Therefore even higher conversions when travelling around EE.

Hope springs eternal in the blessed heart...

[rudebwoy]

Not to get into politics, but I see a few big corporations threatening to leave the UK if Brexit goes through.

The powers that be have been pushing that one Europe agenda for decades.

[Kieran]

Giama I appreciate what you're saying regarding somewhat of a shift in preference from light skinned men to dark skinned men in the urban scene, and I see it pushed a lot on social media, but I'm still seeing mixed race men dominating the market for light skinned women when I'm out in London. I don't go out in London as much as I used to, but I'm still there probably one weekend a month. I was at Issavibe just recently and saw the same thing there, and my mixed race friend absolutely swept up there as well and got some nice quality.

I agree on most black and mixed women choosing mixed or black men which is why it always surprises me that Dark Knight sees it differently with him believing mixed women go for white men more. Mixed are my preference and girls that are open to white men are definitely out there, but being white I definitely start out at a significant disadvantage, especially when it comes to the top tier.

[threeofdiamonds]

(02-24-2019 07:10 PM)SaintLaurentJake Wrote:  

Anyone try Elephant & Castle for Colombian/Latina chicas ? Heading to Europe this summer might stop by London and to get a taste of Colombian girls while visiting an old friend in Camden

La Pollera Colora up the road on London Bridge street on a Friday or Saturday night. Or Number 1 London on Duke st hill.

[giama]

(02-25-2019 05:20 AM)Kieran Wrote:  

Giama I appreciate what you're saying regarding somewhat of a shift in preference from light skinned men to dark skinned men in the urban scene, and I see it pushed a lot on social media, but I'm still seeing mixed race men dominating the market for light skinned women when I'm out in London. I don't go out in London as much as I used to, but I'm still there probably one weekend a month. I was at Issavibe just recently and saw the same thing there, and my mixed race friend absolutely swept up there as well and got some nice quality.

I agree on most black and mixed women choosing mixed or black men which is why it always surprises me that Dark Knight sees it differently with him believing mixed women go for white men more. Mixed are my preference and girls that are open to white men are definitely out there, but being white I definitely start out at a significant disadvantage, especially when it comes to the top tier.

Whats up bro,
"but I'm still seeing mixed race men dominating the market for light skinned women when I'm out in London."

Its interesting you see that in London, i proper see the opposite. as when i see a mixed race girl or light skinned black girl who is 7+ (top shelf) 80% of the time if shes coupled up shes with a dark skin black guy. 10% with a white guy, 10% with a mixed or light skin guy. Id like a 3rd opinion on this as im sure my eyes are not deceiving me. Having said that i am not going to the bars at all these days, but i am driving around london every day all parts, and i have my radar switched on for hot chics at all times.

A good looking mixed guy (or any guy for that matter) is always going to turn heads, but im going more by what i see in attractive couples.

10% of the top shelf mixed girls that choose white guys, those girls tend to be shoreditch types, or perhaps not londoners i find dress sense/hair style usually gives it away.


The area you were raised in can play a part in preference.
For example A lot of my black friends from East london (newham, redbridge etc) date white girls and have a strong preference for them.

One of my theories is that there is a dearth of black talent in those boroughs so they grow up thinking black girls are unattractive, and rude and then adapt their taste to their surroundings, to the white girls who treat them like kings, even if the dude is average. Black girls dont treat average black dudes like kings, in the same way that a white girl can.

[Kieran]

I'd agree on couples. Definitely see a lot of couples with mixed / light skinned girls and dark skinned men, but I don't see that as necessarily telling the truth as to those girls physical preferences, more a result from the fact that dark skinned guys approach those girls non-stop. It's nearly always mixed guys that are getting all the IOIs from them though and they can often have their pick. I've got one friend that these girls literally act like school girls over grabbing their friends and pointing and stuff, and start lurking nearer and nearer, or sending their friends over. I never see this kind of reaction with my full black friends with these girls. Maybe in a white venue out of town.

[giama]

So many factors to consider and data to crunch when it comes to dealing with what i want in London. We should not need to do this to deal with attractive women, all this strategy crap, we dont have to do all this westernised data crunching and overthinking that this forum does. We all should be at a beach sipping a cocktail on the beach with OPTIONS. I know guys in the D.R with pot bellies in there late 40s who are regular looking guys who have equal level options to the top guys in London on the west end scene. My schedule going forward.

March 2019 Holiday: Addis Ababa, Ethiopia

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September 2019: Medellin, Colombia

March 2020, Rio, Brazil

September 2020, Dominican Republic
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Rinse repeat until i buy an apartment in the D.R

[giama]

@ Kieran

We have to be specific.
just so you know i am specifically talking about mixed/light skin black 7s and up. not the general female population not 5s and 6s. i been in the the game to long to care about 4s,5s and 6s.

IMO a mixed female 7.5 in london doesnt have to compromise on taste, she will have a large pick of guys to choose from, so i would say they choose what they prefer, there top of the dating pool and can select what they want. I dont understand the idea of a london female 7.5 compromising on her taste. Its not registering with me.

Your mate must be very good looking, but are the girls high quality girls that are gawking over him?

i can understand a 5 and 6 female gawking over a male 9 or 10, (thats effectively how tinder works as well). a lot of guys get overt attention from 5s and 6s.

female 7s and 8s behave different, so are you saying that females 7s and 8s gawk over him? because if thats the case then your mate is extremely top 1% looks. Im not downplaying your mate, just saying its very extreme.

5s and 6s gawking at him im not impresed. If 7s and 8s then he definitely is living the life

I been around the block a lot and i observe female 7s and 8s in london and i never see them as aggressive as how you describe with your mate. They will give you the eye, the will stop nearby they will send choosing signals. But never seen them act that way outside of celebs.

Whats your agegroup?

[thedarkknight]

(02-25-2019 08:02 AM)giama Wrote:  

So many factors to consider and data to crunch when it comes to dealing with what i want in London. We should not need to do this to deal with attractive women, all this strategy crap, we dont have to do all this westernised data crunching and overthinking that this forum does. We all should be at a beach sipping a cocktail on the beach with OPTIONS. I know guys in the D.R with pot bellies in there late 40s who are regular looking guys who have equal level options to the top guys in London on the west end scene. My schedule going forward.

March 2019 Holiday: Addis Ababa, Ethiopia

[img] [/img]


September 2019: Medellin, Colombia

March 2020, Rio, Brazil

September 2020, Dominican Republic
[img][/img]
[img] 10 sided virtual dice[/img]

Rinse repeat until i buy an apartment in the D.R

90 million Ethiopians?

Fuck me I gotta head a few 100km north of my mums homeland and get some Ethiopian ass. Tbh the coast of Tanzania and Kenya have chicks who look very similar but they’re Muslim.

TDK

[Kieran]

Yeah 7s and up is what I'm interested in and talking about. For some reference I'd consider a 7 to be say Jorja Smith, 8 Nakita Johnson, Kharris Macey, 9 is difficult, not many famous ones, Jena Frumes maybe.

Obviously he gets attention from a range of women, but plenty of top-tier women lose it over him. We're mid thirties but we both look mid twenties. He's mixed black Caribbean and Spanish with straight hair, tattoos on face, neck and hands, in shape and dresses sharp, but he's not tall, and doesn't have his shit together but women don't care.

Got another friend that gets a lot of attention from mixed girls as well, looks a bit like Terroll Lewis and tall. But I never see this with my black or white friends, and a lot of them are in shape with everything going for them.

[giama]

i see, sounds like a pussy magnet.

Regarding your rating system yeh sounds about right, you understand the levels.

If you like nakita, jorja and Kharris your gonna love Dominican republic

[khalidkcl]

(02-25-2019 09:05 PM)giama Wrote:  

i see, sounds like a pussy magnet.

Regarding your rating system yeh sounds about right, you understand the levels.

If you like nakita, jorja and Kharris your gonna love Dominican republic

Looking at tickets for Santa Domingo right now haha.

You've been there?

[Mentavious]

(02-24-2019 12:28 PM)thedarkknight Wrote:  

(02-24-2019 11:49 AM)giama Wrote:  

yeh West indians much more likely to race mix.

I dont get as much play with african women as i do with caribbean women (being light skinned).

I remember back in 2016 when i first came on the board, i was gyming hard and averaging 3 high interest numbers each night i went out. 6s and 6.5s and occasional 7. I go to black events. was like clockwork. Then i went to this african 24 year old females bday party was a big turnout, there was a solid talent pool. i thought yeh this looks im gonna get some chics in here. i saw ZERO choosing signs that night, no interest in me. Had that been a caribbean spot pretty much guaranteed 2-3 numbers and displays of interest. Thats when i started to appreciate the subtle difference in my SMV as a light skin dude between african and caribbean women. I no longer frequent the strictly african scene, i prefer it to be somewhat mixed as its still possible for me to catch a nice Ghanian, but Nigerian girls is not my lane. Also the uncle clubs lets not even go there LOL


And you have to be more on your shit when dealing with african women generally, caribbean women have had a different historical experience, they wont expect marriage like a african women will. understanding subtle differences does really help navigating. I feel i can be broke and still get a hot caribbean chic, i dont feel i would have a chance being a broke guy chasing a african chic.

And once again thank god for south London still birthing gems. The quality of look and submissive nature she gave was actually shocking, she asked me to get in the back of the car and im looking at a 8 out of 10, all my boys have amazing south london tales.


London has shifted from caribbean towards african black community wise, so my SMV has decreased slightly just from that shift, but as we age we get very good at playing our cards in the best way possible, like a boxer who knows how to use ring craft

Yeah , African women want you to step correct but that’s part of the reason I can only see myself in a long term relationship with an African. Caribbean women are fine but their community is in tatters.

I’m moving to south London in August 2020. I turn 28 next month.

I feel more hopeful about the prospects for brothers out here looking for chocolate. It’s still a market in our favour. Brothers with their shit together are sought after. There’s not many of us to go around.

TDK

Exactly. Which is why I had so much success when I visited London and to a large extent Europe in general. You can be dark or light as you want but being seen as ‘high’ status in a females eye will win every time.

[giama]

(02-25-2019 09:16 PM)khalidkcl Wrote:  

(02-25-2019 09:05 PM)giama Wrote:  

i see, sounds like a pussy magnet.

Regarding your rating system yeh sounds about right, you understand the levels.

If you like nakita, jorja and Kharris your gonna love Dominican republic

Looking at tickets for Santa Domingo right now haha.

You've been there?

Yes 4 times, and one time i stayed 2 months. Ill share some pics of what to expect

[giama]

This is what you can expect in the D.R, the more spanish looking girls are santiago girls the more darker ones are from santo domingo where there is more african blood. Santo Domingo has a endless supply of fine women, its ridiculous any one that likes mixed women will be in paradise.
I have ran through 90% of these girls, 90% are sweet feminine and cook and clean, very hard to go back to chasing mixed race london girls after this. In London i only really deal with black (dark skin) girls now.

Be aware: The wrong Dominican girl will hustle you big time, a lot of men fall in love quick, patience and street smarts required. You realise after a while the place is filled with talent and then you stop trying to wife up every beautiful woman you see. But the first time a man goes ALWAYS hits hard and men experience a bamboozled state of mind. Its like dieing and going to heaven

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[giama]

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[Mentavious]

You slip some traps in with the girls or are my eyes playing tricks on me?

[giama]

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[giama]

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[Korrupt]

Can somebody ban Giama please? He's making me question my life choices up to now!

[giama]

also guys i want to showcase something for you.

See profile

https://www.instagram.com/katalinita11/

she is a colombian THOT in colombia but guess what she only has 375 followers an gets 15-20 likes a pic. basically nothing. In her country there is so many attractive girls its not put on a pedestal. There is beautiful women growing on trees. Could you imagine her count if she was raised in London. It would be 10-20 thousand. Social Media has messed up western society due to huge amount of beta males.

Im ignoring a lot of these london chics in 2019

Use geographic arbitrage to get the best looking chics, who havent been gassed beyond.
And lastly everyone, dont believe the myth that the only mixed race and black girls worth having reside in USA and UK.