[Ohiogang]

(08-31-2011 01:43 PM)torontokid Wrote:  

Gotta agree with Moma.
Idk about chinese women but Indian women come from a culture thats already shitty. At least if they integrete they'll be more likely to put out.

Holy shit yes, thank god I'm not only one who realized how shitty this culture is. The men that this culture produces is garbage in quality and human worth. 20-30 year old Indian guys have got to be one of the most misogynistic arrogant, bigoted, ugly, race of males I have ever seen in my life. As for the women, they are usually ugly, unattractive, and bitchy thinking they are worth more then they are and push the guys around. They also don't put in an effort to take of themselves, exercise or do sports/activities, something I will never understand. This was supposedly the culture that invented Yoga & the Karma sutra.

[Vacancier Permanent]

Good points guys that this city lacks a soul, a vibrancy that other great worlds have. And this lack of soul and vibrancy is why Toronto will never be a world class city at least IMO and many men who are well travelled. Good point Moma about this lack of pressure from the Canadian people/society on FOBs to integrate. I grew up in France and it was and it's still very tough to be a minority/FOB there. The kids/guys around you and even teachers and people all around you make you feel that you're different and have no hesitation in reminding you that you're in their country and if you want to stay and remain there, that you'd have to adapt to their culture/society. All in all, not such a bad thing if you ask me.
Luckystar, you talk about the golden days of Toronto in the 90's. At the time, I was a teenager not into game/girls at all. So for those of us who have missed or didn't experience those golden years, tell us how it was back then.
Someone mentioned earlier that Torontonians have this impression and false sentiment that TO is the best city in the world. Whenever I meet new people, whether socially or professionally through my clients, when the topic comes to my travels and living abroad, they have a hard time grasping the notion that there are places that are better in terms of living conditions, overall quality and attitude of women in other continents. They think I'm exagerating and lying but anyone who's been oversees, (specially to SEA, LA and Europe)even for a short trip would notice that. But nothing will convince these people.
And don't even get me started on the rampant and mind numbing "political correctness' that permeates and regulates every interaction at every level in this freaking city.

I agree with the person who mentioned that the best canadian girls are in the smaller cities, specially in the north of Ontario and in the Prairies. I plan on going there next summer to get myself a real Canadian cow girl. Those are keepers from I've seen...

[Kaizen]

(08-31-2011 05:05 PM)Ohiogang Wrote:  

(08-31-2011 01:43 PM)torontokid Wrote:  

Gotta agree with Moma.
Idk about chinese women but Indian women come from a culture thats already shitty. At least if they integrete they'll be more likely to put out.

Holy shit yes, thank god I'm not only one who realized how shitty this culture is. The men that this culture produces is garbage in quality and human worth. 20-30 year old Indian guys have got to be one of the most misogynistic arrogant, bigoted, ugly, race of males I have ever seen in my life. As for the women, they are usually ugly, unattractive, and bitchy thinking they are worth more then they are and push the guys around. They also don't put in an effort to take of themselves, exercise or do sports/activities, something I will never understand. This was supposedly the culture that invented Yoga & the Karma sutra.

'garbage in quality and human worth'??

Perhaps a tad excessive no?

There are many 20-30 y old Indian males on the forum, Including the member you were agreeing with smart guy

[Roosh]

Ohiogang has been banned for one week due to being offensive. He has done it in other threads as well.

[ManAbout]

(08-31-2011 06:48 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Ohiogang has been banned for one week due to being offensive. He has done it in other threads as well.

He is a race troll. I think he should be banned permanently. He said the same thing in this thread:

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-6144.html

His first thread was about beta Iranian men. Another thread about how a Japanese got elected as PM of Peru even though whites have the power and are considered superior etc.. etc..

[Vacancier Permanent]

Agreed with ManAbout that there is no place for such ignorant fools that make sweeping racist comments about other races.

[Luckystar]

(08-31-2011 06:15 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  

Luckystar, you talk about the golden days of Toronto in the 90's. At the time, I was a teenager not into game/girls at all. So for those of us who have missed or didn't experience those golden years, tell us how it was back then.

I was a teen back then too, VP. But, I have heard a lot about it and did catch a glimpse of it. Basically it was a time when Toronto was humble. It was this understated city that was ready to be discovered. Same went for the women. During the 90s, Toronto hip hop scene/movie scene was making strides, the Raptors were born, Caribana was rocking, etc. Toronto became this hip place to be with really cool, approachable girls. Americans and brothas in particular were the biggest winners in TO at that time.

I agree with the person who mentioned that the best canadian girls are in the smaller cities, specially in the north of Ontario and in the Prairies. I plan on going there next summer to get myself a real Canadian cow girl. Those are keepers from I've seen...

The quintessential Canadian girl has a lot of great qualities. Fortunately, there are still many of them out there outside the big cities.

[Saladin]

(08-31-2011 06:48 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Ohiogang has been banned for one week due to being offensive. He has done it in other threads as well.

Thanks he was obviously being a race troll.

I know there are a lot of annoying as hell Indians out there but saying all Indians are like that is bullshit.

There are plenty of cool Indian dudes out there are shown by this forum.

Back to topic though today in the subway I saw two guys with one girl and they were all over. She was a 5 at best.
The guy even told her to take the one free seat and then the both of them crowded her and kept trying to appease her in a completely beta voice tonality.

One of the guys was at least 2-3 points better looking than her(no homo but he was).

Very depressing stuff.

[Kaizen]

You are right L star. Descriptions of the scene at go go's (circa) , copa, rpm (government), still-life(fluid) kit kat etc etc during that period do sound like a golden era

This sums up how sad the scene in Toronto is: on any given night, there is NO venue that guarantees you a good time. No place you can take an out of town visitor knowing he will have a blast. Every place is hit or miss and changes week to week. If anyone disagrees, I would love to know where you go out

[rudebwoy]

Oh the 90's and end of the 80's was a great time in Toronto. Picking up girls was too easy, girls were eager to meet men and would initiate. The city had a cool edge about it, there were some legendary clubs and bars that did not attract the 905 crowd. I was into the house music scene, people actually went out to have a good time and if you met someone it was a bonus. My game was so lame but girls still approached me, complimented me on the silly "outfits" I wore. Yes Copa, RPM (skipped my prom to attend opening night), Twilight zone, Tasmanian Ballroom were some of the spots I use to dwell.
Money seemed less of a focus, even if you took the bus it was not considered the kiss of death.

When you met a girl, you actually got her phone number (not facebook, bbm or whatever BS there is today) and flaking was rarely a problem. Back then I had no desire to travel, Toronto had everything I needed.

Fast forward a decade or two, we have a city that is completely different. Alot of the clubs mentioned have been torn down and turned into condo's.I also think too many condo's has killed the flavour the city had, we are not Hong Kong.
Queen st has become corporate, why would I go there to shop at The Gap when I can get that at any surburban mall. Money is an issue, you cannot attract a certain caliber girl without it. Girls will screen you out for it, number one question is what do you do for a living?

Personally, I think certain events have turned the tide in the city. Women are wary to meet strange men on the street, not to say it does not happen but I think it is easier to hook-up in social circle.
I would also argue that women want alpha men, as Luckystar mentioned they want corporate beta boys. Toronto women don't know how to handle Alpha men b/c they have gotten there way for so long. There are enough beta boys to fluff up there ego's and they will no doubt cockblock you hard.

Sadly, I heard some guys talking about how they went to a strip club on a Saturday night and there was a line-up to get in. To me this pretty much sums it up!!!

[1bliss]

(08-31-2011 10:22 PM)bigxxx Wrote:  

You are right L star. Descriptions of the scene at go go's (circa) , copa, rpm (government), still-life(fluid) kit kat etc etc during that period do sound like a golden era

This sums up how sad the scene in Toronto is: on any given night, there is NO venue that guarantees you a good time. No place you can take an out of town visitor knowing he will have a blast. Every place is hit or miss and changes week to week. If anyone disagrees, I would love to know where you go out

Sure there are a couple venus that guarantee you a good time. Cheval on sundays, TIL on saturdays, Muzik on saturdays, greek town on saturdays, college any weekend during school year, etc. They never disappoint.

[Sasha_Pua]

I'm originally from Toronto. Now, I haven't really been spending much time there over the last 10 years as I've been in the UK - but - I believe Toronto to be the hardest place to get laid in... that I've ever been to.

I'm not a misogynist - I love bitches and everything, but seriously - dude in that article has some good points. You'd have to have some solid game to get regular ass there.....

[Luckystar]

(09-01-2011 01:06 AM)1bliss Wrote:  

(08-31-2011 10:22 PM)bigxxx Wrote:  

You are right L star. Descriptions of the scene at go go's (circa) , copa, rpm (government), still-life(fluid) kit kat etc etc during that period do sound like a golden era

This sums up how sad the scene in Toronto is: on any given night, there is NO venue that guarantees you a good time. No place you can take an out of town visitor knowing he will have a blast. Every place is hit or miss and changes week to week. If anyone disagrees, I would love to know where you go out

Sure there are a couple venus that guarantee you a good time. Cheval on sundays, TIL on saturdays, Muzik on saturdays, greek town on saturdays, college any weekend during school year, etc. They never disappoint.

Cheval, TIL, Muzik are all places I use to go, venues I genuinely like (esp Cheval)...but I won't go anymore bc it is full of 905 suburban trash. When I'm looking for girls in TO, I believe Danforth and College to be the best.

[UrbanNerd]

(08-30-2011 09:03 PM)bigxxx Wrote:  

(08-30-2011 08:55 PM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  

Guvernment is STILL open?...lol

I used to hit Industry, The Docks, Berlin (now closed) and Joker.

Other spots that came and went (some came back) are: Granite, G-Spot, Studio 69 and special parties at Atlantis.

I only complain about Toronto NOW....back in the day, we STAYED on US-219 in PA which took us to Buffalo and then to the QEW. We would get pissed at DC, get off of work at 3pm and be at some Toronto club by 11:30pm hollerin' at chicks.

Unerd we must have crossed paths before!

Industry on Fridays was memorable. Hit all the other spots too

Someone basically mentioned what happened to Toronto...too much American influence.

For you younger guys who may not remember. Back in the day, an American guy could use line like "Hey, is that the C&N Tower??" (knowing damn well it is) and a nice-looking Canadian girl would answer "Yes it is...and are you from the States?"...while batting her eyelashes.

[Chewbacon]

guys, VAN CITY!

Not that I've ever been, but I hear from my friends who come from Vancouver that it is an amazing place. Beautiful weather, laid back vibe, and EXTREMELY FRIENDLY PPL.

I can only speak about asian girls, but they say vancouver asian girls are the friendliest and easiest to approach. Obviously weather and standard of living are factors, but they sa the biggest reason the talent is so welcoming is because there's so much female competition. Pretty girls are the norm, so their egos are stay contained.

Also, I've heard the same thing about Singapore.

[Kaizen]

'not that I've ever been'

Exactly. Van is lame.

[rudebwoy]

Urban Nerd - yes back in the day an American accent would get you laid very easily. I still seen girls going for gaga for it nowadays but it has to be on the right person.

BTW an english accent will have the same results.

[el mechanico]

I saw this and thought to leave this here..
http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Canada/2011090...ll-110907/

[Saladin]

Social circle game and parties are the ways to go.
I'll write up a data sheet as soon as I have enough information. Me and my boys are building contacts in 4-5 schools, colleges and universities and are planning to throw parties. We're taking advantage of this time of the year.

[Luckystar]

(09-08-2011 09:17 PM)torontokid Wrote:  

Social circle game and parties are the ways to go.
I'll write up a data sheet as soon as I have enough information. Me and my boys are building contacts in 4-5 schools, colleges and universities and are planning to throw parties. We're taking advantage of this time of the year.

Yo, you gotta let me know about these parties, dog. I will definitely hit it up.

[1bliss]

^ ditto. Give us Torontonians the deets!

[Saladin]

Im working on em but need help with getting prospects

[1bliss]

Wow, downtown Toronto is PACKED with hotties this weekend because of TIFF.

I was down there last night on King St (best spot in my opinion), and holy shit. Every patio, every lounge, every good club was loaded with groups of hot girls. For everyone in Toronto tonight, make sure you head downtown. Go to King St and take it in! Maro, Brant House, Cheval and Cobra will be havens for hotties.

[Saladin]

(09-10-2011 05:28 PM)1bliss Wrote:  

Wow, downtown Toronto is PACKED with hotties this weekend because of TIFF.

I was down there last night on King St (best spot in my opinion), and holy shit. Every patio, every lounge, every good club was loaded with groups of hot girls. For everyone in Toronto tonight, make sure you head downtown. Go to King St and take it in! Maro, Brant House, Cheval and Cobra will be havens for hotties.

TIFF + Frosh Week = Epic Times

[PBateman]

(08-30-2011 10:32 PM)Mace Wrote:  

Funny thing is if you mention any of these sentiments on any mainstream Toronto website, you'd get slammed big time by the locals. There's a lot of people in this city who regard Toronto as "the centre of the universe". Not kidding. Always from people who've never been anywhere. And it's because most of Toronto's population is comprised of FOB immigrants from Third World dumps and transplants from bumfuck hick towns.

A big problem is Canadians aren't particularly cultured or well-travelled. A Canadian's idea of a vacation is a weekend at the cottage by the lake, or if they're adventurous a week in an all-inclusive resort in Cuba. Contrast this to Aussies for whom an overseas vacation is an annual ritual. There's a certain insular Toronto-centrism that's unbecoming of a truly international, cosmopolitan city.

Someone mentioned demographics and it has a lot to do with the poor social vibe and general uptight nature of this city. In Toronto the biggest groups are repressed anal-retentive WASPs, stonefaced Asians, and insular Indians & Muslims. Even the Southern Europeans here (Italians, Greeks, Portuguese) seem mellowed out compared to their cousins back home.

Contrast Toronto to another huge, diverse immigrant hub - New York. In NYC there's a healthy mix of extroverted groups - loquacious Jews, in-your-face Italians, outgoing Puerto Ricans/Dominicans, and a huge black population. In spite of similar levels of diversity, the social vibe in NYC vs. Toronto is very different. ie. chatting with strangers on the subway is common in NYC; this is a major social faux pas in Toronto.

Once you've travelled overseas and visited some REAL cities with an active street life, where people are relaxed and the women are warm and friendly, coming back to Toronto can be hella depressing.

Nail. Hammer. Head.
This can be summed up for any major Canadian city. I am proud to be Canadian but it is bothersome how uncultured our nation is. They get so insecure and defensive about their respective towns/cities as well on this matter, but it's true.

Now in smaller towns you will find more laid back women that don't have as big of a beatch shield or whatever. However, I agree with a lot of the sentiments about Toronto women from this article. I dated one and she was an absolute nightmare. The most self-entitled woman I ever dated and was the reason I set out to stop dating Canadian women. She brought nothing to the table but wanted her cake and to eat it too.

Sad thing was, this girl in TO wasn't that much different from the slags I dated in Calgary. Now you would think a once proud and smaller community like Calgary would have more easy going women. Umm no. They are so cold you get a chill from them just walking by them on the street. It has gotten progressively worse over the years (thanks to oil money) and when I left I couldn't have been happier.

You would think women in London are more pretentious but I have never once been asked about my job or had any other material discussions within the first hour of meeting a woman here. Maybe once or twice but not on the same scale as TO or Calgary. This is one of the first questions...FIRST....they will ask. I never answer it and immediately I am done with them when this is asked. If you don't make loads of money in these cities (or pretend to live this lifestyle of luxury) I have no idea how you attract the majority of women there.

The previous bf of the girl from TO showered her with money and gifts and that has played a large part of this phenomenon. Guys with no game, using material goods to attract women. This is why you should rarely ever seriously date a woman from these cities...unless she's a rare breed. There are some good ones obviously.