[Mercenary]

(05-12-2016 11:30 AM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  

A woman can get pregnant and pass down her genes whether she's soaked the bed from multiple orgasms , had boring sex with her beta husband of 15 years or is screaming in agony from getting raped by a Syrian refugee.

No.
Female orgasm greatly increases the chance of pregnancy.
This is why many married couples who are trying to conceive might spend years childless, while the same exact woman gets pregnant immediately from a one night stand where she cheats on her husband with another man who makes her cum hard.


To clarify:

I don't care if a girl orgasms or not when I'm banging her....but if I ever feel a girl is faking anything, I will lose my boner.

[Anabasis to Desta]

^ Interesting, any source on this?

[Mercenary]

(05-12-2016 11:59 AM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  

^ Interesting, any source on this?

Human Sperm Competition:
Copulation, masturbation and infidelity
by R. Robin Baker, Mark A. Bellis

[redpillage]

(05-12-2016 11:51 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  

Female orgasm greatly increases the chance of pregnancy.
This is why many married couples who are trying to conceive might spend years childless, while the same exact woman gets pregnant immediately from a one night stand where she cheats on her husband with another man who makes her cum hard.

Soooo... IF I punish fuck her and she hates it then the odds of her getting pregnant are lowered as well??

[AnonymousBosch]

(05-12-2016 10:55 AM)heavy Wrote:  

Men get off by using power to control women's sexuality. Women get off by using sexuality to control men's power.

Other likely factors:

- The dreamy tendency of women to attempt to reshape the nature of reality based upon a fantasy construct;

- The tempestuous nature of women, where they can cycle from love to fury, from passion to disinterest, from smiling to tears, all in a heartbeat, whilst you're wondering what the hell happened (1);

- The suspicion of women that being open and honest in communication will make them emotionally-vulnerable to their partners, particularly amongst other women, because they project the female tendency to throw back their partner's revealed emotional-vulnerabilities during arguments onto men, and, since women despise each other, this kind of information is used by other women to make them socially-vulnerable;

- The uncommitted nature of women to never be entirely sure what they desire, and to still feel a desire for something more when they are given exactly what they thought they wanted;

- The almost-autistic inability of women to use their words when it really matters, particularly when it comes to deflecting unwanted male attention or navigating their own sexual encounters;

- The mechanics of sex are subject to random factors, and sometimes, people are distracted or lose passion, and just want it over with. There's been times I've faked it, knowing the fragile female ego can't handle the idea that she didn't make you cum for a variety of reasons, and it's easier than never hearing the end of it. In this manner, women taught me very well.

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(1) For the best illustration of this, look to the stupid TV shows written by 'Male Feminist' Joss Whedon that women adore, the style of which seems to be spreading like a virus through modern shows like 'Supernatural' and 'Arrow', that all basically follow this pattern:

Trite. Snark. Trite. Snark. IT'S THE END OF THE FUCKING WORLD!! Trite. Snark. OMG THE DRAMA!!!! Snark. Trite.

Masculine male minds can't relate at all, and I barely watch TV anymore, because it seems unrealistic and incredibly-stupid, but Girls and Nu-Male types read it as the core emotional truth of their existence. Note that it resembles the maintained false persona / reveal of narcissistic fury structure of Clinical Narcissists.

[estraudi]

(05-12-2016 01:06 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 10:55 AM)heavy Wrote:  

Men get off by using power to control women's sexuality. Women get off by using sexuality to control men's power.

The suspicion of women that being open and honest in communication will make them emotionally-vulnerable to their partners, particularly amongst other women, because they project the female tendency to throw back their partner's revealed emotional-vulnerabilities during arguments onto men, and, since women despise each other, this kind of information is used by other women to make them socially-vulnerable;
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^^^^
In a way I can almost comprehend what this paragraph means but just not quite. What kind of information and from whom do these women use as a way to make them socially vulnerable??

[realologist]

(05-12-2016 04:33 PM)estraudi Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 01:06 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 10:55 AM)heavy Wrote:  

Men get off by using power to control women's sexuality. Women get off by using sexuality to control men's power.

The suspicion of women that being open and honest in communication will make them emotionally-vulnerable to their partners, particularly amongst other women, because they project the female tendency to throw back their partner's revealed emotional-vulnerabilities during arguments onto men, and, since women despise each other, this kind of information is used by other women to make them socially-vulnerable;

^^^^
In a way I can almost comprehend what this paragraph means but just not quite. What kind of information and from whom do these women use as a way to make them socially vulnerable??
[/quote]

In other words, women gossip. They gossip to old friends, new friends people they just met. In that gossip is truths about every one else but lies about themselves. They do that because who they gossip with are females. Those females are going to gossip that information to other females which is why they lie about themselves.

[AnonymousBosch]

(05-12-2016 04:33 PM)estraudi Wrote:  

^^^^
In a way I can almost comprehend what this paragraph means but just not quite. What kind of information and from whom do these women use as a way to make them socially vulnerable??

Sorry man, problem's my end, not yours: I shouldn't post mid-sleep.

I'm talking about the sort of potentially-damagaing info girls choose to share with their Besties:

- Maybe she had an abortion without her partner knowing.

- Maybe she confesses an an affair with the partner of a third party known to the listener.

- Maybe she says how she despises Girl X who is more popular and the listener wants to get into Girl X's clique.

- Maybe she brags a little too much how hung her partner is and how great he is in the sack.

Since women fight in a passive-aggressive way, they are weakening-themselves by doing this. This is why any time I've worked in a female-dominated workplace it's been an Ultra-Efficient, Productive, Utopian Paradise a living hell of constantly-shifting loyalties, passive-aggressive warfare and nasty little clique formation: "Oh, yes, there is a party scheduled for Wednesday for the girls in the office. I didn't realise that you were rostered on that day, so wouldn't be able to come. I'm so sorry. It won't be the same without you."

I'm convinced women that women, by the time they leave high school, have learned to not trust anyone and instead of logically-punishing other women for their lack of loyalty, project these issues onto men, though I'll admit it's possible that female friendship requires the illusion of intimate information being exchanged to smoothly-function: offering up a vulnerability is a social lubrication.

Women deeply-envy male relationships, including the trust and loyalty can have for one another, since they know it's impossible with other women. One ex used to complain about how my oldest mate and I could just be together and work on a task, and get it done without having to say much to each other, like we knew how each other so deeply that we just clicked into place together without any effort at all.

See what I mean about female projection? Don't underestimate how insanely-jealous women are of male friendships. The matriarchal l media wouldn't have run so hard with the 'Bromance' label over the last 15 years if it wasn't an effective shaming tool by equating close male friendships as being somehow 'unnatural' and 'homoerotic', because, after all, your partner is now supposed to not only your 'girlfriend' but your 'best friend'.

The difference being, of course, is that a male best friend wouldn't immediately default to something like this during an argument:

"I could have dated a real man, not a pussy who cried over the death of his father!"

Men learn this behaviour is to be expected from women, and then women complain that men never 'talk about their feelings', when they're only interest in how those feelings relate to them anyway.

So, she might ask "What are you afraid of?"

The only answer she is interested in hearing is, of course, "Losing you." If you said that, over time, she'd see you as needy and learn to despise you, so I always avoid those kind of questions and move on: "Lena Dunham naked." *exaggerated shudder*

[spokepoker]

In my mid to early 20's, I cared about making a girl orgasm, cause that's what I thought kept them around, and I think I learned it from 90's media.
Now I don't care, because it doesn't really matter, girls are going to do whatever short-term bullshit ideas they get at the time, and I don't have the patience to deal with any of it. They either cum, or they don't, all that matters is I get to blast off between some young dumb legs.

There used to be lots of bullshit I thought I had to "care" about, now it's more about my time and energy, and what I want to accomplish with my time.

Another thing I started doing is planning pre-coitus. Am I going to make her squirt? If yes, do it in the spare bedroom on the hide-a-bed, with one of those plastic mattress covers. If I'm going to bang on my master bed, I change my spread to old cheap sheets and old cheap blankets. I try to keep my nice sheets nice as long as possible, cause they aren't cheap.

[Mentavious]

Rhett are times I last maybe 59 pumps and I'm done. Too suck for a girl to take it in that case.

[TravelerKai]

(05-12-2016 11:51 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  

(05-12-2016 11:30 AM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  

A woman can get pregnant and pass down her genes whether she's soaked the bed from multiple orgasms , had boring sex with her beta husband of 15 years or is screaming in agony from getting raped by a Syrian refugee.

No.
Female orgasm greatly increases the chance of pregnancy.
This is why many married couples who are trying to conceive might spend years childless, while the same exact woman gets pregnant immediately from a one night stand where she cheats on her husband with another man who makes her cum hard.


To clarify:

I don't care if a girl orgasms or not when I'm banging her....but if I ever feel a girl is faking anything, I will lose my boner.

Long story short:

A woman's orgasms allow more cervical fluid to come out, which is less acidic than vaginal fluid (more alkaline, like semen). The quality and viscosity of the cervical fluid depends upon the day on their ovulation cycle, their physical health, etc. The higher quality stuff is like white egg yolk in consistency (Ever get alot of white egg yolk looking pussy juice on your ballsack?). When they are very excited sexually it will come out in larger quantities to help assist sperm to get to the cervix without dying inside the acidic vagina.

A woman that is not very sexually excited, will hardly secrete this or none at all. Only regular vaginal wetness will be available.

If you ever fuck a pregnant woman they will never have the cervical fluid wetness, because they cannot ovulate of course, just regular vaginal wetness or maybe even dry if they are too uncomfortable to have sex.

[Comte De St. Germain]

I like the way this thread is going.

[RatInTheWoods]

(05-12-2016 09:51 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  

Because sex is more fun when you get off, even if you're just playing. Women are very emotional and psychological creatures. Acting like she enjoys sex will make the sex more enjoyable. Making noises, talking dirty, screaming and shaking like they are getting off; all part in parcel. I also think a lot of it is about making the man feel desired and effective. That is part of being a woman.

Exactly this.

Women are nice like that.

[LeoneVolpe]

I have trouble feeling sorry for women who fake orgasms and later bitch about having low-quality sex. You won't make her cum every single time, that's life. If she fakes it once in a while that's one thing but if she's doing it each and every time you have sex, that's something that needs to be brought up in conversation. If she feels discomfort in broaching the subject herself or doesn't want to risk bruising your ego, she should subtly guide you back on the right track to what will actually get her off in the moment. Sure, it would be great if we could just "know" what they want and figure it out for ourselves, but ultimately we are all responsible for the quality of our own bedroom experiences. If you're not getting what you want, it's up to you to communicate what you want. It's completely counterproductive to continually pretend to enjoy something you don't.

[AboveAverageJoe]

Let me simplify this whole thread. Why do women lie? Which is what faking an orgasm or sexual desire for a man whom they dont actually feel such things is. Why do women lie? it is in their best interest to do so and even when it isnt they cant help themselves.

[budoslavic]

(05-12-2016 09:30 AM)DecentFella Wrote:  

Because they think men care ..

any other reasons ?

That was an amusing answer to the OP's own question. Obviously, this was written by a female because women always want to know what a man is thinking.

(05-12-2016 09:51 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  

Because sex is more fun when you get off, even if you're just playing. Women are very emotional and psychological creatures. Acting like she enjoys sex will make the sex more enjoyable. Making noises, talking dirty, screaming and shaking like they are getting off; all part in parcel. I also think a lot of it is about making the man feel desired and effective. That is part of being a woman.

I pretty much agreed with this statement as I noticed this as well.

I don't know about you guys, but I normally watch a woman's body language and facial expression such as (in her foreign accent) "Don't stop...don't stop...DA! DA! DA!" *ooohhhhhh*.

[Pride male]

The same reason a car salesman laughs at all your jokes.

[mammal]

To protect the man's ego. It takes two to tango,some women have a hard time getting there but some men take it personally.

[LeeEnfield303]

(05-12-2016 10:25 AM)Pride male Wrote:  

They do?

My world is spinning off its axis......

[Mercenary]

(05-12-2016 11:51 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  

No.
Female orgasm greatly increases the chance of pregnancy.
This is why many married couples who are trying to conceive might spend years childless, while the same exact woman gets pregnant immediately from a one night stand where she cheats on her husband with another man who makes her cum hard.

(05-12-2016 09:31 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

A woman's orgasms allow more cervical fluid to come out, which is less acidic than vaginal fluid (more alkaline, like semen). The quality and viscosity of the cervical fluid depends upon the day on their ovulation cycle, their physical health, etc. The higher quality stuff is like white egg yolk in consistency (Ever get alot of white egg yolk looking pussy juice on your ballsack?). When they are very excited sexually it will come out in larger quantities to help assist sperm to get to the cervix without dying inside the acidic vagina.

A woman that is not very sexually excited, will hardly secrete this or none at all. Only regular vaginal wetness will be available.

If you ever fuck a pregnant woman they will never have the cervical fluid wetness, because they cannot ovulate of course, just regular vaginal wetness or maybe even dry if they are too uncomfortable to have sex.

TravelerKai is dropping some serious science here.

Often after an intense fucking session where both me, and the girl I'm with, has orgasmed (for her it can be once or a few times) I pull out and often find all this white like and creamy coloured substance all over my condom and at the base of my dick. At first glance it's often not clear if it's my cum or her fluids on the condom. Because it has happened to me in past that condoms have broken while fucking, I now check them afterwards to make sure nothing has leaked out in small holes/tears.

I'm always shocked at the amount of fluid some girls release all over my dick. Now, I don't mean all girls and I don't mean all the time. This will depend how close to ovulation she is, how turned on she is with you, how good you fuck her and how hard she cums (including how many times).

If you're doing it right though....your dick or condom will be totally coated in her juices.
No matter how good an actress she is, this CANNOT be faked.

[BassPlayaYo]

Quote:

Authors of a journal, Clinical Anatomy, say that "the majority of women worldwide do not have orgasms during penetrative sex," and that they've been mislabeled as having sexual problems based on a non-existent concept: a vaginal orgasm. Though physical characteristics (size of clitoris and distance from vagina) can make coming during pentatrive sex especially impossible for some women, there's good news in this too: researchers believe that "it is possible for all women to orgasm if the female erectile organs are effectively stimulated."

Why Do Women Fake Orgasm? 12 Things You Didn't Know About Faking It, Because It Has An Affect On Pillow Talk

[porscheguy]

I think a lot of the discussion of female orgasms in the past 25 years has centered around their "elusive" nature, and the purpose of such discussion is to further drive a wedge between the sexes and emasculate men.

As has been previously stated, the female orgasm is known to assist in reproduction. But this talk about 30% or more of women being unable to reach an orgasm through straight sex is a lie IMO. You shouldn't have to stand on your head, tongue fucking her pussy, while banging a tambourine to get her off. If you do, that means she's the one who's fucked up. And it probably has to do with her being a true believer in the pop sex research she's been fed since "When Harry met Sally" was released. If not that, then it's some other issue that I have neither the desire nor the patience to sort out. If you can only orgasm while I'm fisting you on the fourth full moon, while Zamfir Master of the Pan Flute plays in the background, you're fucking done.

To get to my original point, the purpose of these lies (30%+ can't orgasm from sex alone) is to drive a wedge between the sexes. As I stated above, I won't waste a lot of time on a girl who can't orgasm from regular fucking. I'm sure many guys think the same way. Most women wouldn't be happy to hear me say that. There you go, that's the wedge I mentioned. It's not that I care about her pleasure. It's that if she can''t orgasm normally, she's broken. At a minimum they're the female counterpart of the male compulsive masturbaters who can't orgasm from sex because they desensitized their dicks from jerking off too much.

It's emasculating because it implies that a substantial number of men aren't sexually satisfying their women. They're not doing enough. They're not making the grade. "She has to fake it because you're a poor lover and she needs to protect your ego."

I can buy the argument that sex is more mental for women. It's why the healthy ones will get off when they feel your jizz hit their cervix despite their being no significant erogenous tissue that far in. What I can't buy is that such a large percentage are incapable of normal sexual response.

[Kid Twist]

like spoke said, I ain't got time for that shit anymore

No what? That gets them ready for the O; either way it doesn't matter, just the best possible option

As for porscheguy,

I'm with you. But defining "normal" in this day and age is odd. A strong bond will bring a woman to O, IF the guy is a classic MAN