[DecentFella]

(05-08-2016 10:35 PM)AWinners Wrote:  

do you beleive in the exotic factor when you travel ? do the exotic factor make a city pussy paradise ?

for example when you go to a city where you look from the minority (as an example dark skin italian or spanich guys in white countries like sweden ,polond , canada or the opposite)

i always thought that when you are different, it make the city a pussy paradise for you , but in the reality i found that girls are attracted to the guys who looks the same as them. so a nordist will have better results in the north and southern in the south

i was curious about your experiences ?

Man the Exotic Factor Plays a HUGE role in Poland and also in the Balkans , Croatia, Slovenia etc etc in my experience . Being a brown guy in London I am at a major disadvantage and have to make my highly evolved game to pull .. which I have done to pull numerous 5-7s . But a 7 plus in London is only possible for me if I know her via a friend or social circle and can take my time to game like chase for 2 weeks or more .

In POLAND all I have to do is dress well and turn up ! Not every girl would be like this and a small percentage of girls would flat out reject you as she wouldn't go with a Black guy .

The most sought after and universally loved look in Poland is the White mediterreanean guy look .. Roosh V is fits that description to a T . The girls LOVE white guys with dark hair and dark beard and some tan . In Poland girls consider southern Italians , Spanish , Turkish , Arabs .. BLACK ! I was shocked .. some girls would tell me my ex was Black .. and then go on to say Turkish guy in Germany .. or Italian or SPanish etc etc . So if you are Latin , Italian , Arab .... a shade lighter or darker you would kill it there and almost NO girl would reject you . Being black you can bring the Jungle fever out of 80 percent of the chicks and get vehemently rejected by the rest 20 percent .

I was stood up by a cute 20 yr old who I had day gamed at the Stare Browar mall in Poznan and I was standing outside Piljalnia(a popular pre clubbing cheap shot bar) texting the girl asking if she's coming and a REALLY HOT 9 .. 19 yr old girl started Eye fucking the shit out of me !! I was wearing Leather jackets, baseball cap and black earings both ears .. had the whole rapper look going . As she kept staring at me for a while I couldn't let this pass.. so I went to her and introduced myself . The girl was all over me and wanted to come with me straight but her friend was strongly cockblocking me and there was even a hint of racism there somewhere . As in if I was a white guy she would just have been happy for her friend to come with me and have fun . I asked the girl to join me for a drink in Piljalnia and she wanted but her friend was dragging her away by her hand . This happened to us more than once . A western girl might take her friend aside to have a word or passive aggresively hint her disapproval but unless her friend is drunk and vulnerable they would never drag someone by hand . Anyway I asked the cockblocking cunt please let me have a word with your friend infront of you for a minute I don't have a gun . Then I asked her again to come with me for a drink and even before my girl could reply her friend said NO ! Then her friend said if you want come with us to Cuba Libre .. Now I was no way going to spend the night in a club wasting my time with this chick sitting by her friends and get a kiss in 2 hours ! So I flat out said no and tried to isolate and said let her have a drink with me and I will bring her to you in Cuba Libre I promise . The cockblocking cunt again said NO ! Then they talk between themselves for a minute and my girl comes to me and says this flat out direct .. My friend don't want me to be with you alone because she knows I am a little drunk and very horny and you might take advantage of me !! I go "If you are drunk and horny then how can it be me taking adavantage of you ??? " Again I found this a lot in Polish girls which reminded me of a lot of 3rd world countries .. you can't expect liberal logic or middle class mannerisms from them ! I took her facebook and let her slide and later that night around 2 am when I was drunk and hunting in Cuba Libre I saw both girls sitting by the smoking room kissing two fairly ugly polish guys who looked to me like invested their whole night gaming and buying drinks for them !

One more thing being a Black guy or dark guy in Poland is girls in Clubs even ones who has NO interest in going with you would stop you and flirt and dance with you for 2 minutes , introduce you to her friends and then they will all take Snapchat selfies with you . Same happened to us when we opened conversation with girls in bars or somewhere .. 5 mins in Snapchats out and every girl would take my Cap and wear it and take snapchats like she is now a part of a crib or something . They want to show off to their friends about their exotic evening and snapchats with a black guy automatically elevates them as cool and hip in their friend circle !!

Another Thing I noticed is and I think this is quite universal now .. Girls LOVE Nordic looking guys . Even in Poland .. To me I didn't see a big difference between Polish and Swedish men before I went there but talking to the girls I started noticing . Polish men are skinny , blonde and not that tall or big shouldered and passive . All Polish girls look at their men like sissies and cucks ! They LOVE big tall bearded Nordic looking guys even if they are pale as fuck ! Right now VIKINGS are the new Blacks .. GAME OF THRONES has done it for Nordic guys what the Rappers did for Blacks in the early 90s . It's the hip fetish for girls everywhere now especially those under 28 !

I will copy this to the my Poland Datasheet now I reckon haha

[AWinners]

(05-09-2016 04:22 AM)DecentFella Wrote:  

(05-08-2016 10:35 PM)AWinners Wrote:  

do you beleive in the exotic factor when you travel ? do the exotic factor make a city pussy paradise ?

for example when you go to a city where you look from the minority (as an example dark skin italian or spanich guys in white countries like sweden ,polond , canada or the opposite)

i always thought that when you are different, it make the city a pussy paradise for you , but in the reality i found that girls are attracted to the guys who looks the same as them. so a nordist will have better results in the north and southern in the south

i was curious about your experiences ?

Man the Exotic Factor Plays a HUGE role in Poland and also in the Balkans , Croatia, Slovenia etc etc in my experience . Being a brown guy in London I am at a major disadvantage and have to make my highly evolved game to pull .. which I have done to pull numerous 5-7s . But a 7 plus in London is only possible for me if I know her via a friend or social circle and can take my time to game like chase for 2 weeks or more .

In POLAND all I have to do is dress well and turn up ! Not every girl would be like this and a small percentage of girls would flat out reject you as she wouldn't go with a Black guy .

The most sought after and universally loved look in Poland is the White mediterreanean guy look .. Roosh V is fits that description to a T . The girls LOVE white guys with dark hair and dark beard and some tan . In Poland girls consider southern Italians , Spanish , Turkish , Arabs .. BLACK ! I was shocked .. some girls would tell me my ex was Black .. and then go on to say Turkish guy in Germany .. or Italian or SPanish etc etc . So if you are Latin , Italian , Arab .... a shade lighter or darker you would kill it there and almost NO girl would reject you . Being black you can bring the Jungle fever out of 80 percent of the chicks and get vehemently rejected by the rest 20 percent .

I was stood up by a cute 20 yr old who I had day gamed at the Stare Browar mall in Poznan and I was standing outside Piljalnia(a popular pre clubbing cheap shot bar) texting the girl asking if she's coming and a REALLY HOT 9 .. 19 yr old girl started Eye fucking the shit out of me !! I was wearing Leather jackets, baseball cap and black earings both ears .. had the whole rapper look going . As she kept staring at me for a while I couldn't let this pass.. so I went to her and introduced myself . The girl was all over me and wanted to come with me straight but her friend was strongly cockblocking me and there was even a hint of racism there somewhere . As in if I was a white guy she would just have been happy for her friend to come with me and have fun . I asked the girl to join me for a drink in Piljalnia and she wanted but her friend was dragging her away by her hand . This happened to us more than once . A western girl might take her friend aside to have a word or passive aggresively hint her disapproval but unless her friend is drunk and vulnerable they would never drag someone by hand . Anyway I asked the cockblocking cunt please let me have a word with your friend infront of you for a minute I don't have a gun . Then I asked her again to come with me for a drink and even before my girl could reply her friend said NO ! Then her friend said if you want come with us to Cuba Libre .. Now I was no way going to spend the night in a club wasting my time with this chick sitting by her friends and get a kiss in 2 hours ! So I flat out said no and tried to isolate and said let her have a drink with me and I will bring her to you in Cuba Libre I promise . The cockblocking cunt again said NO ! Then they talk between themselves for a minute and my girl comes to me and says this flat out direct .. My friend don't want me to be with you alone because she knows I am a little drunk and very horny and you might take advantage of me !! I go "If you are drunk and horny then how can it be me taking adavantage of you ??? " Again I found this a lot in Polish girls which reminded me of a lot of 3rd world countries .. you can't expect liberal logic or middle class mannerisms from them ! I took her facebook and let her slide and later that night around 2 am when I was drunk and hunting in Cuba Libre I saw both girls sitting by the smoking room kissing two fairly ugly polish guys who looked to me like invested their whole night gaming and buying drinks for them !

One more thing being a Black guy or dark guy in Poland is girls in Clubs even ones who has NO interest in going with you would stop you and flirt and dance with you for 2 minutes , introduce you to her friends and then they will all take Snapchat selfies with you . Same happened to us when we opened conversation with girls in bars or somewhere .. 5 mins in Snapchats out and every girl would take my Cap and wear it and take snapchats like she is now a part of a crib or something . They want to show off to their friends about their exotic evening and snapchats with a black guy automatically elevates them as cool and hip in their friend circle !!

Another Thing I noticed is and I think this is quite universal now .. Girls LOVE Nordic looking guys . Even in Poland .. To me I didn't see a big difference between Polish and Swedish men before I went there but talking to the girls I started noticing . Polish men are skinny , blonde and not that tall or big shouldered and passive . All Polish girls look at their men like sissies and cucks ! They LOVE big tall bearded Nordic looking guys even if they are pale as fuck ! Right now VIKINGS are the new Blacks .. GAME OF THRONES has done it for Nordic guys what the Rappers did for Blacks in the early 90s . It's the hip fetish for girls everywhere now especially those under 28 !

I will copy this to the my Poland Datasheet now I reckon haha

thats very true , my freind is like me light dark skin with dark hair and he tells me that poland is a pussy paradise for us ( i didnt tried yet poland , finding jobs is difficult there) , a polish girl i met in paris told me that also , she told that she likes north african arabs guys ( from Tunisia and maroco )

now iam living in ottawa and moving to montreal soon .

apprently the exotic factor for dark skin guys works in Easter europe but not in England ,irland , scoltand , Canada ... thoses countries are mostly white also and being dark is not an advantage. But in poland it seems that it works and dark guys have this big advantage.

[jackson.henley]

(05-08-2016 04:23 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(05-07-2016 08:50 PM)DecentFella Wrote:  

I was in Poland Dec 2015 and had 7 lays in 15 days .. when not fatigued or busy in transit I was easily able to pull every night in Krakow , Wroclaw and Poznan even in December which is supposed to be one of the worst time to visit Poland . To add I had maybe 7-8 flakes after full on make out etc because they didn't want to give in the first night or some other little reason and would have turned into lays had I stayed even a day or week longer .

Did you know that for centuries people have been travelling for exotic bangs and just like many of our brothers on this forum who are sharing their stories on army duty in some exotic land ..soldiers were banging even what we consider to be conservative times . They were travelling in their frail diseased horses until the animals dropped dead and they took shelter in the farmers cottage and bang the hot country girl with toned abs and firm ass that she maintained over years working in the farm .

The point is game and hunting has been going on for centuries and every couple of years we will have the fleeting wave of thought passing by that it's all going or gone downhill now .. It's the same with economy , music etc etc Truth is inspite of the economy our great grandchildren will feed and clothe themselves and the generation after that and the music will change its forms yet stay alive . At the end of the Day girls are horny , they want their animalistic needs fullfilled just as much as ever and if we present them that what they are looking for ( ie, an alpha dominant men in most cases including feminists )they will slurp it all up .. The invasions and feminism of western culture might rob us of the supposedly perfect wife material but it won't rob us of shags !

I can totally see OP's point regarding the untouched lands getting westernised but as some of the places become hotbeds for aggresive gaming and drunken stag dos or tourists other places will become available . For example countries like India will emerge on the scene .. India could become the next poland as their urban population is booming and the girls are trying to express their sluttyness in big cities which compared to Western world is not slutty at all . Maybe countries like Belarus will reach Polands level of tolerance(which ain't all that) and as the girls improve their English and loosen up over the next couple of years. Maybe these regions could be enjoyed while they are transitioning over the next 5-10 years !

I am a little surprised that on such a big forum and platform there are so few people trying to game or go off the beaten path and conquer new territories . Obviously I understand for most people with jobs and limited time you can't explore or risk losing your yearly holiday by taking a chance on a hit or miss location but some of the pro gamers and travellers instead of taking that 4th trip to South East asia or Ukraine or Sweden why not try out Mongolia (I know some have) or Kazakhstan and do an evaluation and conquer in a small or big way .

Apologies if this sounded condescending in any way .. Not intended !

In Poland you will have as much success as you have in the West now.
If you have game and are interesting you will score just like you would in the USA or Britain. Just that the women are somewhat better and thinner. A dude with mediocre game or over 35 will not do well in Poland.

When you mention 35 years of age, are you referring to maturity or older looks as a negative?

[chochemonger1]

(05-16-2016 11:21 AM)jackson.henley Wrote:  

(05-08-2016 04:23 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(05-07-2016 08:50 PM)DecentFella Wrote:  

I was in Poland Dec 2015 and had 7 lays in 15 days .. when not fatigued or busy in transit I was easily able to pull every night in Krakow , Wroclaw and Poznan even in December which is supposed to be one of the worst time to visit Poland . To add I had maybe 7-8 flakes after full on make out etc because they didn't want to give in the first night or some other little reason and would have turned into lays had I stayed even a day or week longer .

Did you know that for centuries people have been travelling for exotic bangs and just like many of our brothers on this forum who are sharing their stories on army duty in some exotic land ..soldiers were banging even what we consider to be conservative times . They were travelling in their frail diseased horses until the animals dropped dead and they took shelter in the farmers cottage and bang the hot country girl with toned abs and firm ass that she maintained over years working in the farm .

The point is game and hunting has been going on for centuries and every couple of years we will have the fleeting wave of thought passing by that it's all going or gone downhill now .. It's the same with economy , music etc etc Truth is inspite of the economy our great grandchildren will feed and clothe themselves and the generation after that and the music will change its forms yet stay alive . At the end of the Day girls are horny , they want their animalistic needs fullfilled just as much as ever and if we present them that what they are looking for ( ie, an alpha dominant men in most cases including feminists )they will slurp it all up .. The invasions and feminism of western culture might rob us of the supposedly perfect wife material but it won't rob us of shags !

I can totally see OP's point regarding the untouched lands getting westernised but as some of the places become hotbeds for aggresive gaming and drunken stag dos or tourists other places will become available . For example countries like India will emerge on the scene .. India could become the next poland as their urban population is booming and the girls are trying to express their sluttyness in big cities which compared to Western world is not slutty at all . Maybe countries like Belarus will reach Polands level of tolerance(which ain't all that) and as the girls improve their English and loosen up over the next couple of years. Maybe these regions could be enjoyed while they are transitioning over the next 5-10 years !

I am a little surprised that on such a big forum and platform there are so few people trying to game or go off the beaten path and conquer new territories . Obviously I understand for most people with jobs and limited time you can't explore or risk losing your yearly holiday by taking a chance on a hit or miss location but some of the pro gamers and travellers instead of taking that 4th trip to South East asia or Ukraine or Sweden why not try out Mongolia (I know some have) or Kazakhstan and do an evaluation and conquer in a small or big way .

Apologies if this sounded condescending in any way .. Not intended !

In Poland you will have as much success as you have in the West now.
If you have game and are interesting you will score just like you would in the USA or Britain. Just that the women are somewhat better and thinner. A dude with mediocre game or over 35 will not do well in Poland.

When you mention 35 years of age, are you referring to maturity or older looks as a negative?

Poland is westernized now specially in regards to age differences among men and women. It is not Ukraine or Russia where women mostly appreciate a man over 35. I would have killed it in Poland when I was 28, but unfortunately both of the times I was over there. I was 36 and 37.....so did not have much success with young girls in Poland. That is the reality there for older gentlemen.

[Ice]

(05-16-2016 02:42 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(05-16-2016 11:21 AM)jackson.henley Wrote:  

(05-08-2016 04:23 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(05-07-2016 08:50 PM)DecentFella Wrote:  

I was in Poland Dec 2015 and had 7 lays in 15 days .. when not fatigued or busy in transit I was easily able to pull every night in Krakow , Wroclaw and Poznan even in December which is supposed to be one of the worst time to visit Poland . To add I had maybe 7-8 flakes after full on make out etc because they didn't want to give in the first night or some other little reason and would have turned into lays had I stayed even a day or week longer .

Did you know that for centuries people have been travelling for exotic bangs and just like many of our brothers on this forum who are sharing their stories on army duty in some exotic land ..soldiers were banging even what we consider to be conservative times . They were travelling in their frail diseased horses until the animals dropped dead and they took shelter in the farmers cottage and bang the hot country girl with toned abs and firm ass that she maintained over years working in the farm .

The point is game and hunting has been going on for centuries and every couple of years we will have the fleeting wave of thought passing by that it's all going or gone downhill now .. It's the same with economy , music etc etc Truth is inspite of the economy our great grandchildren will feed and clothe themselves and the generation after that and the music will change its forms yet stay alive . At the end of the Day girls are horny , they want their animalistic needs fullfilled just as much as ever and if we present them that what they are looking for ( ie, an alpha dominant men in most cases including feminists )they will slurp it all up .. The invasions and feminism of western culture might rob us of the supposedly perfect wife material but it won't rob us of shags !

I can totally see OP's point regarding the untouched lands getting westernised but as some of the places become hotbeds for aggresive gaming and drunken stag dos or tourists other places will become available . For example countries like India will emerge on the scene .. India could become the next poland as their urban population is booming and the girls are trying to express their sluttyness in big cities which compared to Western world is not slutty at all . Maybe countries like Belarus will reach Polands level of tolerance(which ain't all that) and as the girls improve their English and loosen up over the next couple of years. Maybe these regions could be enjoyed while they are transitioning over the next 5-10 years !

I am a little surprised that on such a big forum and platform there are so few people trying to game or go off the beaten path and conquer new territories . Obviously I understand for most people with jobs and limited time you can't explore or risk losing your yearly holiday by taking a chance on a hit or miss location but some of the pro gamers and travellers instead of taking that 4th trip to South East asia or Ukraine or Sweden why not try out Mongolia (I know some have) or Kazakhstan and do an evaluation and conquer in a small or big way .

Apologies if this sounded condescending in any way .. Not intended !

In Poland you will have as much success as you have in the West now.
If you have game and are interesting you will score just like you would in the USA or Britain. Just that the women are somewhat better and thinner. A dude with mediocre game or over 35 will not do well in Poland.

When you mention 35 years of age, are you referring to maturity or older looks as a negative?

Poland is westernized now specially in regards to age differences among men and women. It is not Ukraine or Russia where women mostly appreciate a man over 35. I would have killed it in Poland when I was 28, but unfortunately both of the times I was over there. I was 36 and 37.....so did not have much success with young girls in Poland. That is the reality there for older gentlemen.

Attributing your lack of success to your age at the age of 36 and 37 doesn't seem justified in my opinion. If you were 55 maybe - but not 36 and 37. Your vibe, dress style, and overall appearance play a big role too. Even in the US it's not really uncommon for guys aged 36 have girlfriends that are 24 or so.

[262]

^ On the travel pod cast, forum member Nick mentioned that he's met a few well-known London day gamers who've seen success in Warsaw - supposedly the worst place in Poland, according to the forum. I believe some of them are in their mid to late 30s.

[chochemonger1]

(05-16-2016 03:38 PM)Ice Wrote:  

(05-16-2016 02:42 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(05-16-2016 11:21 AM)jackson.henley Wrote:  

(05-08-2016 04:23 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(05-07-2016 08:50 PM)DecentFella Wrote:  

I was in Poland Dec 2015 and had 7 lays in 15 days .. when not fatigued or busy in transit I was easily able to pull every night in Krakow , Wroclaw and Poznan even in December which is supposed to be one of the worst time to visit Poland . To add I had maybe 7-8 flakes after full on make out etc because they didn't want to give in the first night or some other little reason and would have turned into lays had I stayed even a day or week longer .

Did you know that for centuries people have been travelling for exotic bangs and just like many of our brothers on this forum who are sharing their stories on army duty in some exotic land ..soldiers were banging even what we consider to be conservative times . They were travelling in their frail diseased horses until the animals dropped dead and they took shelter in the farmers cottage and bang the hot country girl with toned abs and firm ass that she maintained over years working in the farm .

The point is game and hunting has been going on for centuries and every couple of years we will have the fleeting wave of thought passing by that it's all going or gone downhill now .. It's the same with economy , music etc etc Truth is inspite of the economy our great grandchildren will feed and clothe themselves and the generation after that and the music will change its forms yet stay alive . At the end of the Day girls are horny , they want their animalistic needs fullfilled just as much as ever and if we present them that what they are looking for ( ie, an alpha dominant men in most cases including feminists )they will slurp it all up .. The invasions and feminism of western culture might rob us of the supposedly perfect wife material but it won't rob us of shags !

I can totally see OP's point regarding the untouched lands getting westernised but as some of the places become hotbeds for aggresive gaming and drunken stag dos or tourists other places will become available . For example countries like India will emerge on the scene .. India could become the next poland as their urban population is booming and the girls are trying to express their sluttyness in big cities which compared to Western world is not slutty at all . Maybe countries like Belarus will reach Polands level of tolerance(which ain't all that) and as the girls improve their English and loosen up over the next couple of years. Maybe these regions could be enjoyed while they are transitioning over the next 5-10 years !

I am a little surprised that on such a big forum and platform there are so few people trying to game or go off the beaten path and conquer new territories . Obviously I understand for most people with jobs and limited time you can't explore or risk losing your yearly holiday by taking a chance on a hit or miss location but some of the pro gamers and travellers instead of taking that 4th trip to South East asia or Ukraine or Sweden why not try out Mongolia (I know some have) or Kazakhstan and do an evaluation and conquer in a small or big way .

Apologies if this sounded condescending in any way .. Not intended !

In Poland you will have as much success as you have in the West now.
If you have game and are interesting you will score just like you would in the USA or Britain. Just that the women are somewhat better and thinner. A dude with mediocre game or over 35 will not do well in Poland.

When you mention 35 years of age, are you referring to maturity or older looks as a negative?

Poland is westernized now specially in regards to age differences among men and women. It is not Ukraine or Russia where women mostly appreciate a man over 35. I would have killed it in Poland when I was 28, but unfortunately both of the times I was over there. I was 36 and 37.....so did not have much success with young girls in Poland. That is the reality there for older gentlemen.

Attributing your lack of success to your age at the age of 36 and 37 doesn't seem justified in my opinion. If you were 55 maybe - but not 36 and 37. Your vibe, dress style, and overall appearance play a big role too. Even in the US it's not really uncommon for guys aged 36 have girlfriends that are 24 or so.

I am not making any excuses for myself. You can be successful in Poland if you are 35 to 40.... if you day game like a monster. Internet and night game just wont cut it.
But daygaming like a monster will yield results also in Western countries, so that is why to me Poland is no pussy paradise. for gentlemen over 35.

[Russianbrother]

(05-03-2016 03:57 PM)semibaron Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 03:56 AM)Alpha9 Wrote:  

what causes the loss of pussy paradise?
- Foreign Travellers?
- Feminism?
- Wealth of the nation increasing?
- all of the above?

I personally would be really interested to find out the success rate of a blonde white guy, say in Hong Kong / Seoul and the same guy's success rate in Manila / Bangkok ?

I personally disagree about mobile phones.. in Asia they love mobile phones and games etc, and most places are pussy paradises.

I would say it's all about demographics and birth rates as long as it's not a culture that worships foreigners (e.g. Japan).

Low birthrates then leads to many other things like. Young women become valuable, their parents start to invest in their education, rich local guys start fighting over them...

None of those is the main cause.
The only thing which matters is Economy.

Like in the Maslows Diagramm, people search for food at first, then they try to secure their home/live, and only after these phases come the cultural and snobby phases a la" Are you driving a Ferrary?, Your income is?"

The low birth rates, divorces and etc, are high in developed countries, just because women can shit on your face andget away with that.
A different story is a country, where such behaiviour would mean for her to lose a provider or defender, which would basically mean death to her or a very poor live atleast.
The next major military conflict or economical chrisis in the world, will ruin the economies of all those "Wanna be a Paris hilton attitude", and the demand for men will rise once again.

The main problem is that such things are not static.
While some countries were poor previosly, they can survive such chrisis better nowadays, compared to some european countries.
That means that it may be in future so, that some Chinese dudes, will come to France to bang cheap whores, or something like that.


P.s
And don't worry about Ukraine, for the next 5-8 years, that economical shithole will provide enought stimuls for the women to behave themself nice.

[chochemonger1]

(05-17-2016 06:42 PM)Russianbrother Wrote:  

(05-03-2016 03:57 PM)semibaron Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 03:56 AM)Alpha9 Wrote:  

what causes the loss of pussy paradise?
- Foreign Travellers?
- Feminism?
- Wealth of the nation increasing?
- all of the above?

I personally would be really interested to find out the success rate of a blonde white guy, say in Hong Kong / Seoul and the same guy's success rate in Manila / Bangkok ?

I personally disagree about mobile phones.. in Asia they love mobile phones and games etc, and most places are pussy paradises.

I would say it's all about demographics and birth rates as long as it's not a culture that worships foreigners (e.g. Japan).

Low birthrates then leads to many other things like. Young women become valuable, their parents start to invest in their education, rich local guys start fighting over them...

None of those is the main cause.
The only thing which matters is Economy.

Like in the Maslows Diagramm, people search for food at first, then they try to secure their home/live, and only after these phases come the cultural and snobby phases a la" Are you driving a Ferrary?, Your income is?"

The low birth rates, divorces and etc, are high in developed countries, just because women can shit on your face andget away with that.
A different story is a country, where such behaiviour would mean for her to lose a provider or defender, which would basically mean death to her or a very poor live atleast.
The next major military conflict or economical chrisis in the world, will ruin the economies of all those "Wanna be a Paris hilton attitude", and the demand for men will rise once again.

The main problem is that such things are not static.
While some countries were poor previosly, they can survive such chrisis better nowadays, compared to some european countries.
That means that it may be in future so, that some Chinese dudes, will come to France to bang cheap whores, or something like that.


P.s
And don't worry about Ukraine, for the next 5-8 years, that economical shithole will provide enought stimuls for the women to behave themself nice.

Ukraine is done in 3 years.

[Kid Twist]

"Done" how?

It's hard to see, but it seems obvious that the pendulum swinging back will crush the 50-70%ile even in broke dick rich America.

The key is that it's not a total economic collapse. Just a big one.

[Robert Plant]

I have been traveling for 30 years and pussy paradise has more to do with culture and cultural preferences than anything else. The USA is a pussy paradise for a beefed up Australian. Spain (outside of Madrid) is a pussy paradise for a very, handsome, well dressed, cultured international man of mystery such as myself.

Of course some places are objectively worse and better than others and some places get out of balance because of too many thirsty foreigners (e.g. Makati). But do not underestimate the general value of being a stranger in a strange land. Women love mystery and good looking, well dressed, not-thirsty foreigners are mysterious.

[gmoneysauce]

Mr. Plant, can you elaborate on well-dressed, suited up? Bespoke suit? Are you in your 30's? 40's? Workout? Ripped? or just well built?

I also try to do the international man of mystery thing as it is congruent with my personal background and experience. I think NASA Test Pilot is a master of that game.

That would be a good data sheet. But NASA has elaborated at length on how he lives and approaches so we have a good run-down of that approach.

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(05-19-2016 12:04 AM)Robert Plant Wrote:  

I have been traveling for 30 years and pussy paradise has more to do with culture and cultural preferences than anything else. The USA is a pussy paradise for a beefed up Australian. Spain (outside of Madrid) is a pussy paradise for a very, handsome, well dressed, cultured international man of mystery such as myself.

Of course some places are objectively worse and better than others and some places get out of balance because of too many thirsty foreigners (e.g. Makati). But do not underestimate the general value of being a stranger in a strange land. Women love mystery and good looking, well dressed, not-thirsty foreigners are mysterious.

[Kid Twist]

I have traveled extensively en Espana also but never tried to do the well dressed, cultured thing (and I know spanish language too) because I feel like I need a younger, decent wingman. When I've gone it's been mostly family or older family friends hanging ... which has sorta sucked.

South of Spain seemed awesome. Given that I have friends there that are cool what happens sadly also is that they are all the late 30s that are married with kids or if they have friends, social circle setup is usually with an OLD-ish espanola ... 5-6

some of those southern ones are smokin' hot though, and feminine to boot

[IDrinkYourMilkShake]

I think we have to distinguish between the main topics ppl are talking about here.

If 'Pussy Paradise' is refering to places like the Philippines, where minimal (basicly non) game is necessarly in order to get laid, and that will be lost I dont see that as such a great problem, since the '%' that has game will just carry on while the betas will return to their dark corners wanking to porn.
Same goes for the decline of exotic factor, guys have to adapt.

The rise of feminism and the possibility of decreasing the the amount of traditional/feminine women and a risk of turning once open and friendly into arrogant and anti-social, thats more of a concern if you ask me. But I dont think that necessarly has to go in hand with a country getting richer, since my experience in Korea and Russia shows how a developed country (well, still way behind western countries in terms of average living standard) can keep the traditional gender roles, where the ideas of third wave femenism and the bashing of the family as the common unit, is absolute alien to the majority of women. *fingers crossed*

An interesting and scary thing thats been brought up in the thread is how the global demographics is shifting in terms of low birthrates. One of my favorite threads on the forum is the 40+ thread, which give a guy in his 20's, like me, great inspiration for the future hehe. But if the amount of young girls are gonna be way more scarse in the future compared to now, how wil that affect game for a 40+ guy?

[Ternarydemonite]

(05-20-2016 10:22 AM)IDrinkYourMilkShake Wrote:  

I think we have to distinguish between the main topics ppl are talking about here.

If 'Pussy Paradise' is refering to places like the Philippines, where minimal (basicly non) game is necessarly in order to get laid, and that will be lost I dont see that as such a great problem, since the '%' that has game will just carry on while the betas will return to their dark corners wanking to porn.
Same goes for the decline of exotic factor, guys have to adapt.

The rise of feminism and the possibility of decreasing the the amount of traditional/feminine women and a risk of turning once open and friendly into arrogant and anti-social, thats more of a concern if you ask me. But I dont think that necessarly has to go in hand with a country getting richer, since my experience in Korea and Russia shows how a developed country (well, still way behind western countries in terms of average living standard) can keep the traditional gender roles, where the ideas of third wave femenism and the bashing of the family as the common unit, is absolute alien to the majority of women. *fingers crossed*

An interesting and scary thing thats been brought up in the thread is how the global demographics is shifting in terms of low birthrates. One of my favorite threads on the forum is the 40+ thread, which give a guy in his 20's, like me, great inspiration for the future hehe. But if the amount of young girls are gonna be way more scarse in the future compared to now, how wil that affect game for a 40+ guy?

Many of my high school friends are married or with LTR and no game. They would be destroyed in the sexual market if they suddenly became single; at least at 28 they had provider beta game.

As you begin to get older you will see that, while the amount of quality women diminishes, much more the amount of quality single men with game and logistics. The amount of single guys with game at 35+ is very low. You will still need to do the same effort as when you were younger, of course, you will get flaked and you will fail, but you will get laid the same if not more as before.

You will likely will have to change your fb profile age and lie women about your age once in a while, but as you target the same kind and age bracket of women as before, your experience and inner game will help you a lot. Negative aspects of being older is little tolerance for the immaturity and bullshit of young women, plus much less tolerance for night game.

[Kid Twist]

^^^ The last line is especially poignant.

As I age (mid 30s) I can see myself going for smart and innocent (young), as far as LTR or marriage, way over "hot" or even stunning. In fact, except for later bloomers, the latter selects out smart (unless she's crazy) and normal/loyal.

The problem is that social circle game diminishes RAPIDLY as you get older in a way; close family and friends think with culturally biased blinkers --- stuff like "She's too young for you" whether they say it or not. With guys, I think it's almost as much jealousy as it is with women, oddly.

[Vinny]

I have spent May and June in Kiev, with short visits to Lviv and IvanoFrankivsk and I have good news!!! Ukraine is still a pussy paradise.
Why pussy paradise? Because of the effort to results ratio. And by results I mean both quality and quantity. So far nothing beats Ukraine.

[Cortés]

^^^Thats good to hear. Even in Kiev? I would think the first places to fall would be a pussy paradise's capital/major cities, whereas smaller cities like the ones you visited would be preserved for a good while. Im not nearly as well traveled as most people on the board here, but to me it seems that as the world becomes more connected through internet and cheap transportation, capitals/major cities will become more westernized, and thus its women would be more "western" along with its culture. I was reading a thread the other day about how "Brazil did not lead up to expectations" yet the guy went to Sao Paulo (obviously major continental city), stayed in a hostel, spoke little Portuguese, didnt make enough of an effort to immerse himself in the local culture, and failed to join a social circle [EDIT: thread-14048.html ]. Other threads ive seen about pussy paradises falling are about capital cities made by guys who stay for two weeks and expect to bang 10 girls based on white god factor because they read a thread like Linux's bang Colombia and assume that any schlub can do that. Again, Im speaking on my limited travel experience here, but even in Western Europe I was able to leverage being American into increased social value in the smaller cities that see fewer foreigners. I was not in pussy paradise, but all Im saying is that first tier international cities will basically be much more westernized and used to foreigners than smaller cities. Poosy Paradise, where ever it may be for any of us, would probably be in a smaller city. Since posting in this thread a few months back, Ive bookmarked some forum threads/Roosh posts that are pretty relevant here.

http://www.rooshv.com/the-benefits-of-li...nal-cities

thread-1495.html

http://www.rooshv.com/your-duty-as-a-man

thread-54702.html

On a related note, Im starting to plan out a trip for the end of 2017/start of 2018 for second/third tier cities in northeastern Brazil. Unknown big cities with beautiful beaches, low cost of living, and (hopefully) fine Brasileiras make it seem to me that it could be a pussy paradise. From my understanding, tourists mainly go to Sao Paulo, Rio, Foz do Igaucu, and to a lesser extent Floripa, Salvador, Belo Horizonte, and Porto Alegre. The consensus on this forum is that SP and Rio are losing their magic slowly but surely, makes sense because they are the two major hubs for business, tourism, sports, etc for Brazil. I took BB's advice from that last thread and went through a list of Brazil's largest cities by population and found a few cool ones along the North coast that yield zero info from google when looking for accomadations, tourist attractions, or anything. My criteria was that the city had to have >250000 population, have a nice looking beach (images through each wikipedia page in portuguese), and be uncharted territory as far as tourism goes. Im hoping once I take my trip Ill pass through one of these cities and find a poosy paradise that ill return to.

[Schlep]

@ vinny

I'll be in Kiev and Kharkov in September for a month. If I remember correctly you mentioned in another thread that you are fluent in Russian. How has the level of english speakers been? Also, your from eastern Europe. Do you think your ascent is also a factor?

[superschalk]

(07-16-2016 04:46 PM)Vinny Wrote:  

I have spent May and June in Kiev, with short visits to Lviv and IvanoFrankivsk and I have good news!!! Ukraine is still a pussy paradise.
Why pussy paradise? Because of the effort to results ratio. And by results I mean both quality and quantity. So far nothing beats Ukraine.

I fully agree with this Ukraine is the place to be. However a recent weekend trip further to the East let me realize how difficult Kiev is compared to other places. If I find a bit of time I will write a decent report into the Ukraine thread.

I did a four day trip to an industrial city in the East and these were the highlights:

- banging an 8 just two hours before my return to Kiev
- a blond 8 opened me in a nightclub as soon she heard that I was ordering in English. We were making out later during that night
- two 7s came up in the same nightclub the day before and asked me where I was from because they have seen me earlier in the afternoon having lunch at a restaurant
- dancing with a 9 while her boyfriend was chilling, smoking Shisha next to us and offering me shots of vodka

And by the way I don´t speak a single word of Russian. While this might sound great there is a huge BUT to this and this is lifestyle. Most cities in East Ukraine are rundown places and I don´t see myself to live there in the long term. Expect from drinking and chasing girls there is not much to do there. Also the lack of foreigners can be a problem in the long term. In Kiev I have many friends from Europe and from America and they are always up for some fun.

However if you would not mind living in a bit of a rough environment, have some cash to through around, dress well and act different to the locals while treating them with respect you could become some kind of local celeb within a few months time. Speaking Russian might help but it is no deal breaker at all.

For me personally my lifestyle and my social environment is more important so I am not tempted doing something like this. But my recent trip got me motivated to explore some more of these cities in the East of the next couple of weeks maybe I find a place which would suit me better than Kiev.

So yes there are still more than enough pussy paradises as long as you are willing to keep to explore places on you own.

[RBerkley]

R.I.P. Social life of Montreal, Quebec, Canada..Ya took too much of the Anglophone feminist garbage.

Roosh and Montreal in 2012:

Roosh and Montreal in 2015:

The entire Canada is transforming to be hostile to PUA approach, while female teachers are trying to force pedophile Benjamin Levin's Sex-Ed curriculum so that they can talk sexually explicit content to Grade Six students and probably demonstrate practical Sex-ed by "teaching" in front of the class with a strap-on dildo.

[godzilla]

It's going to be very difficult to completely ruin extremely large cities like Kiev, Bogota for example, or Ukraine and Colombia in total.

The population of those cities/countries still absolutely dwarf the amount of tourists that are willing to visit them at this point. Tourism is still quite low in general. Here is some #'s I researched

2015 ...Ukraine population: 45 million. 12 million tourists. Visitors from local countries like Moldova, Belarus, Russia, still make up a majority.

2014 ... Colombia population: 46 million. 3 million tourists.

You'll be far better off in these countries then say Poland and Thailand, yet it still seems a lot of people get laid there as well.

[Vinny]

(07-19-2016 05:28 AM)Schlep Wrote:  

@ vinny

I'll be in Kiev and Kharkov in September for a month. If I remember correctly you mentioned in another thread that you are fluent in Russian. How has the level of english speakers been? Also, your from eastern Europe. Do you think your ascent is also a factor?

Yes I do speak fluent Russian. I don't have an accent, Ukrainians do so they spot me as a foreigner. Speaking Russian works nicely there.

One good example was when me and Cr33pin were walking down the street, he spots and approaches an 8 looking girl in super short shirts. Her answer, no English. Without hesitation I approach her in Russian and successfully close.
The only difference is that I spoke Russian. No way it is possible that she did not like the stylish jacked guy with a luscious beard aka Cr33pin?

[Rocha]

(07-19-2016 05:28 AM)Schlep Wrote:  

@ vinny

I'll be in Kiev and Kharkov in September for a month. If I remember correctly you mentioned in another thread that you are fluent in Russian. How has the level of english speakers been? Also, your from eastern Europe. Do you think your ascent is also a factor?

Pardon the interference, but your forum name and the mention of Kharkov reminded me immediately of this song by the amazing Olya Polyakova.

BTW it was a Kharkov super hit in 2014:

All the girls crazy singing this on top of the tables here at Stargorod...it was a nice summer..

[Vinny]

Any more lost pussy paradises?

Any new emerging ones?

I have visited Russian this September. For a Russian speaker it is a pussy paradise.