[262]

(04-22-2016 12:35 PM)Distant Light Wrote:  

Maybe people are taking this exotic factor and pussy paradises too literally...

A cool guy is a cool guy...

People are still having sex...

Plus why go to places strictly for the women? Is that what you're going to do 24/7?

Not my place to talk though since I got a year more before I begin my own run and I just can't see why I'd travel for the sole purpose of finding the easiest place to get laid...I know I'm awesome enough to be sexually active ifnI so choose but at sametime if I want sex i "round the clock" might as well stay at homebase since the setup is nice.

Just a thought, no experiences to backup my claims...yet

Maybe people are taking this Game and Lifestyle stuff too literally...

A good guy is a good guy...

People are still having relationships...

Plus change yourself strictly for the women? Is that what you're going to do 24/7?

Not my place to talk though since I got a year more before I begin my own Game and Lifestyle journey and I just can't see why I'd change myself for the sole purpose of finding the best way to get laid...I know I'm nice enough to be sexually active if I so choose but at the same time if I want sex "round the clock" might as well be myself since the setup is nice.

Just a thought, no experiences to backup my claims...yet

[262]

(04-22-2016 12:34 PM)Vinny Wrote:  

[quote='262' pid='1283250' dateline='1461316424']
I think I've figured out how to drive traffic while keeping certain info private.

Check out the last link in my signature, if you have access. Then try checking it out after logging out of RvF.

Note: Access criteria isn't up to me.

Tried it. Does not give me access logged in or logged out
Not enough rep. points?

[NewMeta]

I dont get this forum sometimes, on the one hand people want a quality woman and on the other they want to relocate somewhere where the girls are easy....but they also have to be of good quality? Generally when you go to these places and make cum dumpsters of said quality women they are no longer really that valuable anymore, but to then complain that these places are on the decline, thats pretty funny. When all these locations enter the realm of the self entitled western mentality, this forum whether some would like to admit it or not, will not only have had its part in it, but will have been one of the major contributing factors.

[Cortés]

(04-23-2016 04:16 AM)NewMeta Wrote:  

I dont get this forum sometimes, on the one hand people want a quality woman and on the other they want to relocate somewhere where the girls are easy....but they also have to be of good quality? Generally when you go to these places and make cum dumpsters of said quality women they are no longer really that valuable anymore, but to then complain that these places are on the decline, thats pretty funny. When all these locations enter the realm of the self entitled western mentality, this forum whether some would like to admit it or not, will not only have had its part in it, but will have been one of the major contributing factors.

I agree 100%. This forum gets upset when women from traditional countries westernize, yet continue to go and try and break their traditional values by pursuing one night stands over relationships. Pumping and dumping is for low quality sluts. If you complain about western values such as our accepted slut culture, then why the fuck do you try to make other countries into a slut culture. If you travel t a country, say in western Europe, that already has a slut culture, then go for the ONS. But if you're just going to a traditional third world country and bang 50 girls , and maybe only fuck 50% of them more than once, then slut culture is on its way. You can't complain about how dating in America is QUANTITY over QUALITY while going to a country that is QUALITY over QUANTITY, but you pursue QUANTITY over QUALITY anyways.

(04-23-2016 03:34 AM)262 Wrote:  

Is it only available to paying RVF gold members? Thats not a bad idea either. IF youre commited enough to buy a premium forum membership, then it shows you contirbuted to the forum financially. I think the travel forum should only be accessible by members with a gold membership, 5 rep points, and 100 posts.

[godzilla]

(04-23-2016 09:45 AM)Cortés Wrote:  

(04-23-2016 04:16 AM)NewMeta Wrote:  

I dont get this forum sometimes, on the one hand people want a quality woman and on the other they want to relocate somewhere where the girls are easy....but they also have to be of good quality? Generally when you go to these places and make cum dumpsters of said quality women they are no longer really that valuable anymore, but to then complain that these places are on the decline, thats pretty funny. When all these locations enter the realm of the self entitled western mentality, this forum whether some would like to admit it or not, will not only have had its part in it, but will have been one of the major contributing factors.

I agree 100%. This forum gets upset when women from traditional countries westernize, yet continue to go and try and break their traditional values by pursuing one night stands over relationships. Pumping and dumping is for low quality sluts. If you complain about western values such as our accepted slut culture, then why the fuck do you try to make other countries into a slut culture. If you travel t a country, say in western Europe, that already has a slut culture, then go for the ONS. But if you're just going to a traditional third world country and bang 50 girls , and maybe only fuck 50% of them more than once, then slut culture is on its way. You can't complain about how dating in America is QUANTITY over QUALITY while going to a country that is QUALITY over QUANTITY, but you pursue QUANTITY over QUALITY anyways.

(04-23-2016 03:34 AM)262 Wrote:  

Is it only available to paying RVF gold members? Thats not a bad idea either. IF youre commited enough to buy a premium forum membership, then it shows you contirbuted to the forum financially. I think the travel forum should only be accessible by members with a gold membership, 5 rep points, and 100 posts.

I have to disagree with both you. I don't see how banging girls overseas brings slut culture. I've been to Western Countries and "pussy paradises" and a couple of neither. The girls know its a short term relationship. I can't speak for everyone but I always tell them I am leaving in a certain amount of months. I had maybe 1 in 20-25 whose were actually confused and thought we might develop into a longer term thing. (and she was British go figure) Also most of the girls I've slept with over the past year still shoot me messages. I got maybe like 5 happy new years messages this year. I don't what it is with other cultures but girls never got jaded. You might have to lie a bit to not "ruin" them but that's it.

And sure, some of us meet some nice girls, I've met a couple but its important to know, we don't know these girls that well and most of us are probably banging sluts anyway.

[Dantes]

Yes pumping and dumping is for low quality women. When you are accustomed to high quality women, your behavior and mindset changes.

A lot of travel vets on this forum are in fact pulling high quality women. So it's a misconception that the men on this board are only interested in racking up notches.

As I have always maintained, learn to pull quality in your own country before assuming you will be a rock star abroad. If you consistently pull 7 plus in your country,then you should be able to pull one point higher with younger and more feminine women in the countries often discussed on this forum.

[Phoenix]

(04-23-2016 04:16 AM)NewMeta Wrote:  

I dont get this forum sometimes, on the one hand people want a quality woman and on the other they want to relocate somewhere where the girls are easy....but they also have to be of good quality?

That's just an expression of men's feelings though. These two things are always in conflict in the mind of a man, and there can never be a set 'answer' to it.

[Cortés]

(04-23-2016 11:50 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

(04-23-2016 04:16 AM)NewMeta Wrote:  

I dont get this forum sometimes, on the one hand people want a quality woman and on the other they want to relocate somewhere where the girls are easy....but they also have to be of good quality?

That's just an expression of men's feelings though. These two things are always in conflict in the mind of a man, and there can never be a set 'answer' to it.

Yes but as a forum, we need to realize that we cannot have both. Which do we prefer: more feminine, non slutty women or women who fuck around, drink and swear like sailors? We all agree that the whole reason western women are sluts is because we as a society began to allow hypergamy, so why is it that trying to pump and dump chaste traditional women abroad won't result in the same thing. We cannot have the best of both worlds, and I think that unless we want women and society in general to be like here in the west, we have to accept that we shouldn't go to countries just to get as many notches as possible. You need to try and immerse yourself in the culture, form a solid relationship with quality girls (even if its multiple girls, it doesn't have to be dating. Just dont fuck and chuck!)

[Vinny]

(04-23-2016 12:28 PM)Cortés Wrote:  

(04-23-2016 11:50 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

(04-23-2016 04:16 AM)NewMeta Wrote:  

I dont get this forum sometimes, on the one hand people want a quality woman and on the other they want to relocate somewhere where the girls are easy....but they also have to be of good quality?

That's just an expression of men's feelings though. These two things are always in conflict in the mind of a man, and there can never be a set 'answer' to it.

Yes but as a forum, we need to realize that we cannot have both. Which do we prefer: more feminine, non slutty women or women who fuck around, drink and swear like sailors? We all agree that the whole reason western women are sluts is because we as a society began to allow hypergamy, so why is it that trying to pump and dump chaste traditional women abroad won't result in the same thing. We cannot have the best of both worlds, and I think that unless we want women and society in general to be like here in the west, we have to accept that we shouldn't go to countries just to get as many notches as possible. You need to try and immerse yourself in the culture, form a solid relationship with quality girls (even if its multiple girls, it doesn't have to be dating. Just dont fuck and chuck!)

The problem is that at a certain period of your life you want a lot of quality looks easily available pussy, and later when you are ready to settle, you want high quality faithful girl with a low sex partner count.
You can still have both. Just by filtering them out. I remember thinking the same way you do. But in reality in any society there will always be a percentage of good girls and bad girls (not bad really just promiscuous). What you learn with time though is that there is a great grey area too, and majority of girls are actually being good and bad at different periods of their life. Girls are emotional creatures. She might be super innocent next to you and allow you to date her for 5 times without you even kissing her, and then fuck another guy on a first date following her passion. There are always many faces people wear. You act differently around your buddies and around your boss for example. This is kind of similar.
I don't believe that is you have a great game and you manage to get a traditional girl in your crib at a first date, it will loosen her standards. She puts out for you because you can make her to, other guys might still need to play by her rules. But most of the times, girls there were not planning to have sex on a certain night (not because they did not want to, but because they thought they should not), and still did, will show a lot of respect for you afterwards. And if you play by their rules, they'll at times despise you for your weakness. And even dump you. Another point being girls don't really know what they want either.

[azulsombra]

(04-23-2016 12:48 PM)Vinny Wrote:  

(04-23-2016 12:28 PM)Cortés Wrote:  

(04-23-2016 11:50 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

(04-23-2016 04:16 AM)NewMeta Wrote:  

I dont get this forum sometimes, on the one hand people want a quality woman and on the other they want to relocate somewhere where the girls are easy....but they also have to be of good quality?

That's just an expression of men's feelings though. These two things are always in conflict in the mind of a man, and there can never be a set 'answer' to it.

Yes but as a forum, we need to realize that we cannot have both. Which do we prefer: more feminine, non slutty women or women who fuck around, drink and swear like sailors? We all agree that the whole reason western women are sluts is because we as a society began to allow hypergamy, so why is it that trying to pump and dump chaste traditional women abroad won't result in the same thing. We cannot have the best of both worlds, and I think that unless we want women and society in general to be like here in the west, we have to accept that we shouldn't go to countries just to get as many notches as possible. You need to try and immerse yourself in the culture, form a solid relationship with quality girls (even if its multiple girls, it doesn't have to be dating. Just dont fuck and chuck!)

The problem is that at a certain period of your life you want a lot of quality looks easily available pussy, and later when you are ready to settle, you want high quality faithful girl with a low sex partner count.

This has always been the way for a certain percentage of men. And in more traditional cultures like in southern europe and the Muslim world etc the need to have a lady in the streets and a freak in the sheets was satisfied by.........prostitutes!

I know that's a forbidden concept for some but its was used to balance men's needs with societies needs and everyone looked the other way. Sure Catholic and Muslim cultures were supposed to be all religious and holy but they were also realistic. Horny 21yr old Esteban, Guiseppe or Mohammed could engage in a prolonged traditional courtship process with a chaste future fiance without deflowering her because he could hit up a brothel or whatever the local underground equivalent was whenever he was dying to bust a nut. There was no stigma involved it was culturally acceptable for men and just how things were done but not discussed openly.

Enter modern times where much harsher laws against prostitution have been enacted globally but younger men's natural desire for easy access to poon has stayed the same. In many ways slutty non-pro modern women have filled this void. Because these women are not professional whores, even though they sometimes behave like them, the line between the good girl you married and the slutty girl you banged no strings attached have been blurred when in the past it was crystal clear.

[Pointer]

(04-23-2016 12:28 PM)Cortés Wrote:  

(04-23-2016 11:50 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

(04-23-2016 04:16 AM)NewMeta Wrote:  

I dont get this forum sometimes, on the one hand people want a quality woman and on the other they want to relocate somewhere where the girls are easy....but they also have to be of good quality?

That's just an expression of men's feelings though. These two things are always in conflict in the mind of a man, and there can never be a set 'answer' to it.

Yes but as a forum, we need to realize that we cannot have both. Which do we prefer: more feminine, non slutty women or women who fuck around, drink and swear like sailors? We all agree that the whole reason western women are sluts is because we as a society began to allow hypergamy, so why is it that trying to pump and dump chaste traditional women abroad won't result in the same thing. We cannot have the best of both worlds, and I think that unless we want women and society in general to be like here in the west, we have to accept that we shouldn't go to countries just to get as many notches as possible. You need to try and immerse yourself in the culture, form a solid relationship with quality girls (even if its multiple girls, it doesn't have to be dating. Just dont fuck and chuck!)

I don't see how sleeping with women abroad makes turn them into hypergamous sluts. After all, you are just one man, you might well be her second or even her first. On the contrary, if you are a complete dick she would've learned a lesson and then refuse to ever bang another foreigner.

[Wuking]

Instead of worrying about losing poosy paradise, maybe work on improving yourself and game. Just a suggestion.

[Tex]

(04-23-2016 12:28 PM)Cortés Wrote:  

(04-23-2016 11:50 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

(04-23-2016 04:16 AM)NewMeta Wrote:  

I dont get this forum sometimes, on the one hand people want a quality woman and on the other they want to relocate somewhere where the girls are easy....but they also have to be of good quality?

That's just an expression of men's feelings though. These two things are always in conflict in the mind of a man, and there can never be a set 'answer' to it.

Yes but as a forum, we need to realize that we cannot have both. Which do we prefer: more feminine, non slutty women or women who fuck around, drink and swear like sailors? We all agree that the whole reason western women are sluts is because we as a society began to allow hypergamy, so why is it that trying to pump and dump chaste traditional women abroad won't result in the same thing. We cannot have the best of both worlds, and I think that unless we want women and society in general to be like here in the west, we have to accept that we shouldn't go to countries just to get as many notches as possible. You need to try and immerse yourself in the culture, form a solid relationship with quality girls (even if its multiple girls, it doesn't have to be dating. Just dont fuck and chuck!)

I was under the impression that the definition of pussy paradise is having both.

Pussy paradise would be a place where women don't sleep around a lot, make good marriage material, and yet are easy to bang for us. Feminine women who won't abandon a family for some bullshit pseudo-career, won't sleep with lots of guys, yet give you easy access to pussy.

It's not hypergamy if the girls in a place are surrounded by guys who struggle to bang, but then you come around and get the pussy easy. Especially if she refuses to bang a guy like you once she has you. That means having moral values.

How does that kind of thing come about? There's a couple of possibilities. For instance, going to a traditional country where the people are poor yet hold onto traditional values and arrive as an exotic, high-value, educated, game aware man. That suggests that pussy paradise can be different for different groups of people.

Now, I don't subscribe to the idea that we as a forum contribute to some kind of destruction of female values because we fuck women from all walks of life. If we're talking about specific countries, the only way for us to have any part in ruining a pussy paradise is to concentrate our numbers into one single (very small) country and actively try to smash all the women and then treat them like shit.

We would have to consciously damage women. All of us. So that means literally everyone who ever made an account on the forum would have to fly to, say, Liechtenstein, and have a poosy-smashing crusade.

Then what? Move to Poland? How long would it take to corrupt millions and millions of girls, with just 20,000 of us? Even if we all tore into it and each of us got 20 new notches a year, that's only 400,000. At that rate it would take twenty years to ruin just eight million girls. In a country of almost 40 million people.

But let's say we get help from the entire "red pill" community and after 20 years, Liechtenstein and Poland are ruined. That rate is not congruent with what we're seeing. And that's because the cultural values are being displaced by interconnectivity and deliberate efforts at Americanization by the US government. Polish language has even become more Americanized since the 2000's.

That's not because a couple of expats show up. That's because the full force of millions and millions of Americans is exported to other countries in a deliberate way, especially in regards to industry, which trickles down to the culture at large.

You can't change a culture with your dick. But you can with the Internet and economic power.

Now more Germans visit my hometown than ever. That doesn't mean the place is more "German," and that really doesn't mean that sluts here look at the exotic Germans as less "sexy" or "different."

In terms of whether or not we're making a positive change, we are. We have casual sex. Girls want that. But the main thing they want, even more than sex, is attention. And here there is a generally held belief that once you get the bang, it's all about the girl keeping your attention. What kind of girls keep our attention? The chubby tatted slut who swears like a sailor with his dick in a blender, or a feminine girl in a dress who cooks for you and has interests other than ass-clapping?

We put our attention into the girls who best match our belief structure. That is the real positive reinforcement.

[Sidney Crosby]

(04-23-2016 01:33 PM)Wuking Wrote:  

Instead of worrying about losing poosy paradise, maybe work on improving yourself and game. Just a suggestion.

[Cataldes]

It's less the country and more the areas and girls you scope out, I don't go to clubs anymore because of the ratios and jaded women.

Go to areas where most men don't, approach women who usually don't get approached. (not because they're ugly, but they don't put themselves in situations where it's likely to happen)

[chochemonger1]

Smart phones destroyed many pussy paradises. Simple as that.

[azulsombra]

(04-23-2016 09:53 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

Smart phones destroyed many pussy paradises. Simple as that.

Smart phones + Social Networking will eventually destroy all "pussy paradises".

Pussy paradise as a country can't/won't be kept secret anymore.
Smaller regions within said countries should still yield greatly above average results for at least another decade.

[Alpha9]

what causes the loss of pussy paradise?
- Foreign Travellers?
- Feminism?
- Wealth of the nation increasing?
- all of the above?

I personally would be really interested to find out the success rate of a blonde white guy, say in Hong Kong / Seoul and the same guy's success rate in Manila / Bangkok ?

I personally disagree about mobile phones.. in Asia they love mobile phones and games etc, and most places are pussy paradises.

[Fortis]

^ Agreed, You'll go on a chinese girl's wechat and see that she has 50 friends on it, but is always on her phone talking to those fifty people. They're still very insular people despite social media.

[Vinny]

(04-24-2016 03:56 AM)Alpha9 Wrote:  

what causes the loss of pussy paradise?
- Foreign Travellers?
- Feminism?
- Wealth of the nation increasing?
- all of the above?

I personally would be really interested to find out the success rate of a blonde white guy, say in Hong Kong / Seoul and the same guy's success rate in Manila / Bangkok ?

I personally disagree about mobile phones.. in Asia they love mobile phones and games etc, and most places are pussy paradises.

I would say that smartphones in certain areas of Asia are even improving the pussy paradise quality, as there are so many channels on social media about "cute white guys", which these girls are following. This keeps reinforcing their dreams to get a white guy, and keeps their panties wet 24/7.

[Dantes]

Alpha9

Individual experience varies. You should go there and report back. There is plenty of intel on those places if you search older threads.

[cov]

Has Poland gotten that bad? I was thinking of going there.

[Vinny]

(04-24-2016 12:36 PM)Dantes Wrote:  

Alpha9

Individual experience varies. You should go there and report back. There is plenty of intel on those places if you search older threads.

I really doubt Alpha9 can go to Hong Kong and see how it feels to be a blonde guy there. Because he is a dark brunette, with tanned skin. Funny enough he has actually been to Hong Kong within last month.

Sometimes I don't understand why this forum in so unfriendly to new comers? It is kind of personal to me. I met Alpha9 in a club in Manila (Valkyrie). We started talking and after I learned he was red pill I asked if he is using any forums. He turned out to be a RVF lurker. I spent 10 minutes of my time (instead of clubbing and chasing pussy)persuading him to actually join the community and contribute because he travels a lot, and has few very good insights.
Well now he is here, he is actually contributing. But there is too much bias against the low message count.
Trust me, guy is a real deal. WMA 9 in my list

[Travesty]

(04-22-2016 12:35 PM)Distant Light Wrote:  

Maybe people are taking this exotic factor and pussy paradises too literally...

A cool guy is a cool guy...

People are still having sex...

Plus why go to places strictly for the women? Is that what you're going to do 24/7?

Not my place to talk though since I got a year more before I begin my own run and I just can't see why I'd travel for the sole purpose of finding the easiest place to get laid...I know I'm awesome enough to be sexually active ifnI so choose but at sametime if I want sex i "round the clock" might as well stay at homebase since the setup is nice.

Just a thought, no experiences to backup my claims...yet

Because 99% of guys make the decision that becoming a top 1% guy in socializing and lifestyle is too much work compared to simply moving and only being a top 30% guy.

If you are a top 30% or lower it is a fact there are many places in the world better for mental health and spirit as a man than 1st world top tier cities.

Also as I remember you have an affinity for tall model types that come with certain attitudes and personalities most of the time. Some guys don't see those types in that environment as attractive and will never click even if they were a top 1% man.

The Gmanifesto, West Coast, Distant Light, Christian McQueen, DVY and so on mindset is be a 1% and enjoy that crowd and lifestyle. Some guys are not built for that plain and simple.

It is asking a dolphin to enjoy jogging.

[samsamsam]

(04-26-2016 02:45 PM)Vinny Wrote:  

Sometimes I don't understand why this forum in so unfriendly to new comers? It is kind of personal to me. I met Alpha9 in a club in Manila (Valkyrie). We started talking and after I learned he was red pill I asked if he is using any forums. He turned out to be a RVF lurker. I spent 10 minutes of my time (instead of clubbing and chasing pussy)persuading him to actually join the community and contribute because he travels a lot, and has few very good insights.
Well now he is here, he is actually contributing. But there is too much bias against the low message count.
Trust me, guy is a real deal. WMA 9 in my list

It isn't always a low bias count but more of what they are saying or if they have been repped. Even within the repping - there is the met in person rep and the great post guy rep. And if met in person, if the rep comes from someone is well respected matters more than someone who rarely posts or is known.

Also, keep in mind many people seem to like to come here and troll. There have been some really terrible ones lately and one in particular that seemed to try to set the forum up as a place for very bad people.

Just trying to be reasonable here, imagine some guy you don't know, never seen before starts making big claims, or dropping info contrary to the collective knowledge of the forum. It would be reasonable to question the source and the info a little right?

I appreciate your posts a great deal, even though you are newer, but at least you are dropping useful data. Nor do you present with the vibe of, "Look I am so amazing." A welcome addition to the forum.

Edit: The other issue is that some new posters start making a lot of new threads or asking a lot of demanding questions. So it would be reasonable to imagine they would get a bit of a harsh welcome. I hope that seems reasonable. For repped and older posters, I go out of my to did a quick google search or did through RVF even though they could have done the same. But I don't mind, it is respect for their contributions. For new people, I always make the joke about searching.

Edit: A guy like this with one post is generally not well received because all he is doing is asking for help. No mention of what he has searched for already. Didn't post in an existing thread, etc. Is it not reasonable to post in an existing thread? I'll stop beating a dead horse, but I think it makes sense why new guys don't get instant credibility.

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(04-26-2016 05:36 PM)Diego1993 Wrote:  

Hey guys!

I was in Medellin 2 years ago, and had a AMAZING trip, one of the best places I ever been to. Nice people, easy to get laid, ok food, safe, and perfect weather.

I am going to Colombia again this summer for 15-18 days, I will go to Medellin again for sure, but I was also thinking to go to Cali since I have heard it is very good there, and less tourist then Medellin so the gringo factor helps much more with the ladies.

My question is should I spend all my days in only Cali and Medellin (maybe get the girls who need 1-2 dates too) or should I also visit some other city like Cartagena or Santa Marta.

I have read amazing reviews about Cali and Medellin, (Medellin I was very happy with myself) but about Cartagena, Santa Marta, Bogota, and few other cities it is not that good reviews. So what do you guys think? Only Cali and Medellin for this time, and maybe visit the other cities another time, or should I go to some of the other cities this time too.

I had 6 bangs in 7 days when I was in Medellin, I did not speak even one word of Spanish, only used google translate and met all the girls online. When they came to my hotel, we talked with google translate on the Mac, and had some drinks meanwhile, it worked perfect for me.

Now I have been learning Spanish for a few months and also taken salsa classes.