[Orichalcum]

Windows 7/8/8.1 are also now running the telemetry and data gathering service, it was pushed earlier this year through Windows update (KB3022345).

You can at least disable the service and prevent it from running at startup:
How to disable the Diagnostics Tracking Service in Windows

I checked on my Windows 7 SP1 install and sure enough it was running.

Since Microsoft have recently announced that they will stop giving detailed patch notes for Windows updates, that probably means they'll push more of those.

[Menace]

I upgraded my desktop from Win 7 Pro to Win 10. No problems. I actually really like Windows 10.

I also have a Surface 3 running Win 10. No issues with the OS.

Is there any way to block the telemetry stuff on a protocol/port level on your router? I don't really care, but that would be a solution.

[BBinger]

(08-26-2015 10:32 AM)Menace Wrote:  

I upgraded my desktop from Win 7 Pro to Win 10. No problems. I actually really like Windows 10.

I also have a Surface 3 running Win 10. No issues with the OS.

Is there any way to block the telemetry stuff on a protocol/port level on your router? I don't really care, but that would be a solution.

You need a seperate piece of hardware running a different operating system to act as a firewall between the Windows 10(or "updated" 7 or 8) device to intercept and block that shit. You may need a heavier duty router and a much deeper knowledge of how networking works. You can probably get a head start though by blocking the specific ports and domains used at the router, but you likely will also need to turn of upnp at the router which may break things you either need or like.

[Parlay44]

It's ok. Been using it for a week or so. I think it's faster than 8. No funny quirks.

[Dr. Howard]

Fuck windows 10. Its built like a shady used car. It worked well for a few days and then started to freeze once every 2-3 days, then once a day, then 2-3 times a day. Now I've installed windows 7 on a separate partition and am going to let that shit rest until the rampaging nerds on the message boards post that there are solutions.

That is my desktop.

My laptop, which is not fancy at all seems to tolerate it just fine.

[Avon Barksdale]

I have no desire to get windows 10 until about 2017.

Hopefully most of the bugs will be worked out, so I can get a good custom PC built with it.

[Sooth]

What's the verdict now?

I'm probably going to make the move soon. Will have to sooner or later.

[fokker]

I only keep Windows around for playing games. If I didn't have so many of the things, I'd stick to either OSX or Linux.

[Hades]

(05-25-2016 06:19 AM)fokker Wrote:  

I only keep Windows around for playing games. If I didn't have so many of the things, I'd stick to either OSX or Linux.

Steam on linux (osx too) is getting pretty good.

I'm optimistic that enough of my game catalogue will transfer over that I'm sticking with osx, linux, and steamOS from here on out. I have no doubt that team fortress 2 will still be serious business in five years.

[Nitro]

Win10 is rather buggy and at times a complete pain in the ass to deal with, but I'm not made of money to afford Mac, so hopefully the rest of these bugs will be eliminated in the near future.

[DJ-Matt]

http://blog.ultimateoutsider.com/2015/08...emove.html

http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/

Quote:

This is a free tool that can remove and disable the 'Get Windows 10' notification area icon on Windows 7 and Windows 8. Recent versions can also disable 'Upgrade to Windows 10' behavior in the Windows Update control panel and do much more. See the user guide at the Ultimate Outsider blog. You can still download GWX Control Panel as a standalone executable if you don't like installers. Please see the "GWX Control Panel Release Notes and Version History" post at the blog for MD5 and SHA-1 checksums of all official releases.

[Aquiles_Baesta_Parada]

Windows 10 forced the upgrade on my computer...
some bugs but nothing mayor.

For the Linux guys, any difference when your running major programs like WAMP or google drive?

[jbo]

W in WAMP stands for Windows, so it's not for Linux ;-)

But yes, Apache + MySQL + PHP work perfectly on Linux.

[Aquiles_Baesta_Parada]

(05-25-2016 09:42 AM)jbo Wrote:  

W in WAMP stands for Windows, so it's not for Linux ;-)

But yes, Apache + MySQL + PHP work perfectly on Linux.

Id-10-t error on my part!

WAMP for windows, LAMP for linux

[kbell]

Is windows 10 useable now? I have windows 8.1 on my surface pro and it awful to use. The free upgrade expires the end of this month.

[DJ-Matt]

Classic Shell makes Win10 usable for me:

http://www.classicshell.net/

However I am not installing Win10 on any daily use computers, just a tablet I use occasionally that came with the awful Windows 8. So the bottom line is, unless you're stuck with 8 for some reason, 7 is a better bet. But that's just my own opinion.

[kbell]

i'm not sure I can get 7 to work on a surface pro. but I think if install 10 I will have to reinstall all of my software?

[Valentine]

If you can avoid Windows 10, do so. It's horrible for privacy and they're introducing a subscription model too.

When security updates for Windows 7 stops on Jan. 14, 2020 I'll switch or already have switched to using Linux + WINE to run all my Windows programs.

[MKE-Ed]

(07-01-2016 12:34 AM)Valentine Wrote:  

If you can avoid Windows 10, do so. It's horrible for privacy and they're introducing a subscription model too.

When security updates for Windows 7 stops on Jan. 14, 2020 I'll switch or already have switched to using Linux + WINE to run all my Windows programs.

I agree with this. Avoid it if you can. I have been told that Windows 10 is allegedly loaded with a bunch of spyware that Microsoft uses to keep tabs on its users. My two year old Dell laptop just updated from Windows 8 to Windows 10 and it now runs horribly. It has a difficult time loading web pages and it has to be refreshed often. It also does a poor job of loading websites that have a lot of ads. I never had any of these issues with Windows 8.

[RandomGuy1]

(07-01-2016 12:34 AM)Valentine Wrote:  

If you can avoid Windows 10, do so. It's horrible for privacy and they're introducing a subscription model too.

When security updates for Windows 7 stops on Jan. 14, 2020 I'll switch or already have switched to using Linux + WINE to run all my Windows programs.

The problem with this is that they already rolled out updates for Win7 which infiltrate the same privacy-spyware-features to your system like in Win8/10.

[Valentine]

(07-01-2016 01:16 AM)RandomGuy1 Wrote:  

(07-01-2016 12:34 AM)Valentine Wrote:  

If you can avoid Windows 10, do so. It's horrible for privacy and they're introducing a subscription model too.

When security updates for Windows 7 stops on Jan. 14, 2020 I'll switch or already have switched to using Linux + WINE to run all my Windows programs.

The problem with this is that they already rolled out updates for Win7 which infiltrate the same privacy-spyware-features to your system like in Win8/10.

Here's how to stop that:

(08-26-2015 09:27 AM)Orichalcum Wrote:  

Windows 7/8/8.1 are also now running the telemetry and data gathering service, it was pushed earlier this year through Windows update (KB3022345).

You can at least disable the service and prevent it from running at startup:
How to disable the Diagnostics Tracking Service in Windows

[kbell]

Is it possible to get 8.1 to act like 7 than? Its a time waste looking for programs that only appear on the app display rather than the normal desktop, and I am very used to the start up bar.

[Sooth]

I might have mentioned this but half the retarded people that work on the computers I'm in charge of went ahead and upgraded to windows 10.

It was time for me to refresh my PC so deleted everything and installed windows 10 today while it's still free.

Only gripe so far is that it took some 7 hours to install.

If you're trying to install old programs and they don't work you can right click on them, go to properties and go to the compatibility tab, then click the obvious shit and yeah, they'll work.

Life is so complicated now. What happened to the days where you could drag a bitch into your cave and make a family.

[Hannibal]

I have nothing but the deepest hatred for that bubbly, videogame-interface looking Windows 10.

If I have to scroll through a bunch of hieroglyphs just to log onto the goddamned computer, I'm shutting it off.

Recently my girlfriends computer had a problem with whatever program. I clicked on the equivalent of the "Start" button and was inundated with an explosion of symbols.

How is this:



Any better than this?:



I used to play computer games competitively and I do not like where Windows 10 is going. You can't shut off mouse acceleration. For everyone who knows what that is, it's a very big deal. Mac computers are basically unusable for me.

It's hard enough putting up with smartphones and no I do not want one as a computer.

When the time comes I will convert over to Linux and use wine to run windows programs. Other than that I will continue to use Windows 7 until hell freezes over.

[DJ-Matt]

^^^^

Classic Shell dude!


Also I don't think you'll get Win7 to load on a Surface, I've tried on a Pro 3. It lacks a traditional BIOS, but luckily Win7 64bit has a UEFI loader. The problem lies in AFTER you get it loaded, there are no drivers for the touch screen or any of the Surface specific hardware!