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#26

Quebec City

Quote: (09-03-2013 08:17 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

I'm really glad we got a report on QC now. That place was desperately lacking in intel. I don't think I'll ever visit that place since it doesn't hit on weekdays and its weekends aren't even superior to Montreal's. Can't find the justification to go to a place where the language barrier is stronger and the nightlife is lesser quality. I would have to be in Montreal long enough to where I was sick of it and really needed something new while I'm still there.

Yeah, for that reason I could never get motivated to go.

There are still parts of Montreal I haven't seen, so I couldn't figure out the point of seeing Quebec City.

Hell, I finally just saw Laval. (Super fly girls there by the way, although not sure of the point of going there to swoop them as they all come to MTL to party).

Quote: (09-03-2013 08:31 AM)Courage Reborn Wrote:  

Quote: (09-01-2013 02:19 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Courage Reborn -

How did you get there? Train?

Where next? Back to Montreal?

I took the VIA train. Cost me $61 1 way. Not cheap. Extremely comfortable though. 50lb luggage limit like an airline.

I am now in Iceland. Just got here. Trying to make sense of it.

That is another reason.

I looked at tickets once and they seemed expensive and I think it is like a 3 hour trip.

If you go for the day it would be 6 hours round trip to spend 5 hours in QC.

Never seemed worth it.
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#27

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Quote: (09-02-2013 12:18 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Quote: (09-01-2013 02:19 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

Major props to CR for his intel on Montreal and Quebec City, the former has really had its hype culled by his reports.

I know you're big on NYC but honestly Montreal defeats it pound for pound from a quality perspective. The averages in Montreal are undoubtedly higher and the ratios are much better.

The only place in NYC where you'll find talent on the same level or above is in the Meatpacking District, but how accessible are those venues anyway and how likely are you going to score going there? With door politics, cover charges, drink prices, and pretentiousness, it comes out to about the same when measuring quality against speed to bang.

I haven't been in Montreal so I wouldn't know.

However, from CR's report I don't see how the top shelf girls are any more accessible in Montreal than what you consider them to be in NYC. And CR definitely is far more persistent in his game than me. I'm lazy by comparison.

I really can't echo your experiences about the Meatpacking district though. As I mentioned in my latest trip report I wasn't impressed by MPD which I considered overrun by tourists. The hottest chick I gamed were in SoHo.

With that said I don't doubt there are stunning girls in Montreal. The question is if it's worth the effort? I'm still considering it for my Power trip 2014 but Miami certainly has the edge.
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#28

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Quote: (09-03-2013 12:54 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

from CR's report I don't see how the top shelf girls are any more accessible in Montreal than what you consider them to be in NYC.

In NYC, you have many shelves of talent. Plenty of cheap house options.

Montreal by comparison, is stocked almost exclusively with "top shelf".

Regarding accessibility, I got laid my 1st night back in NYC at the Bulgarian bar, down in the LES. Bulgarian chick. Young banker at JP Morgan. Opened, talked, danced, kissed, ditched her friend, and we taxi'd to her place uptown. Meet to bang = 3 hours.

I can't imagine this happening in Montreal. You have to put in work with either city, but Montreal was a bust for me in terms of ONS.

NYC girls are more independent. Easier to bang, but harder to talk to. For Montreal, it's vice versa.
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#29

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Quote: (09-03-2013 08:31 AM)Courage Reborn Wrote:  

Quote: (09-01-2013 02:19 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Courage Reborn -

How did you get there? Train?

Where next? Back to Montreal?

I took the VIA train. Cost me $61 1 way. Not cheap. Extremely comfortable though. 50lb luggage limit like an airline.

I am now in Iceland. Just got here. Trying to make sense of it.

Jesus mate you get around! Read Slubu's post and remember it's dead during the week there but on weekends if you stay out til 5-6am you basically have a great chance to get a late night hookup as many drunk girls are looking to pair off at the end of the night.

2015 RVF fantasy football champion
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#30

Quebec City

I want to offer a contrasting impression of QC. I was only there for five days but contrary to Jura and Courage, I did not have problems with English, I had zero complaints about the quality there, and I didn't run into any prowling cougars either (something that was mentioned in this thread and also in Scotian's province thread). My brief datasheet follows. I barely mention language barrier in the datasheet so I'll do it here: yes there were some girls with no English, and some with poor English, but nobody gave me an attitude about it, and the proportions were not such that I felt limited at all.
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#31

Quebec City

Hello.

Here is my brief datasheet based on five days in Québec City. I hope it
is useful and well-received.

The city is known as "Québec City" in America but simply "Quebec" in the
province. They use context or else specify whether they mean the city or
the province. I'm going to call it Québec.

I spent a weekend in Montreal once and loved it—but in my
opinion whatever is good about Montreal is present in Québec and
whatever is bad about it is absent in Québec. Scotian's thread contains very good
historical and cultural background which applies to Québec (City)
probably moreso than to Montreal. I really liked this city, especially
so given that it is in North America. I know I will be back there.

Québec offers, first and foremost of course, beautiful, stylish,
sociable women. The city's architecture is utterly charming, the
streets are clean, and I saw no evidence of crime or destitution that
would normally present in a medium- or large-sized city in North
America. In fact, I was there during their annual Winter Carnavale, and
can attest that despite freezing cold weather, good cheer and camaraderie
were palpable. The drinking age is 18 which is great—even if you're
not looking for an 18 year old, their presence seems to have a mellowing
effect on the twenty-somethings, like they feel the need to act chill,
laid-back, and more mature than the teens.

I was well-received almost everywhere I went by both men and women.
People here are less accustomed to tourists and stag groups from New
York than in Montreal, so I got a lot of "You came to Québec
from New York??? But why?" This is an awesome vibe to be in and all I
had to do was show up—a well-documented feature of second-tier cities.
However, I advise RVF operators not to be too brazen in front of Quebecer men
when gaming chicks they regard as being in their social circle. Once or
twice I felt that if I would have come off as being too deliberate about
working on girls, the guys would decide to kick my ass for poaching
their countrywomen—and I really can't blame them.

Logistically, the place is pretty solid. Except the University, everything
is concentrated downtown. It's very cold in winter, but you can suck it
up and walk wherever you want to go. I couchsurfed, which I will
definitely not do next time I'm there—too many girls live with their
parents and this cost me bangs. The one bang I actually got took place
at the university dorm. I imagine AirBnB would be great in this city
and if not there are plenty of street-scale hotels in the area so you
don't have to stay in the less-bounceable-to mega-hotels on the big
boulevard.

The "Strip" is Grand Allée, which runs along a ridge overlooking the
"Plains of Abraham," a large park between the city and the river. Here
I'll mention Dagobert, the club everyone was talking about when I was
there: I don't really do clubs (or lines/crowds/large covers), so I
didn't go in, but if that's your thing this looked like a good spot for
it, featuring hot chicks freezing their titties off on line in front of
this castle-looking building that could have as easily been made into a
haunted house.

Now for a couple of venues. I went in more places than I will list here;
these are mostly ones that were recommended to me at one point or
another and so are apparently considered notable around town. Fact is
that the bar culture here is pretty sweet, and because downtown is so
compact you will not have a hard time finding the crowd you want, be it
college girls, rockers, swanky types, or whatever.

Pub Ozone: Top of the hill on Grand Allée, a college dive bar, type of
place we are probably all familiar with, serving large quantities of
Labatt Bleu to poorly-dressed college kids. I didn't find the time to
work this place but it made me nostalgic for drunken nights in my old
university town, letting the booze do the work. I expect they have a
weeknight special that packs in the hot co-eds. Get em.

Les Voûtes Napoléon (The Vaults of Napoleon):
This is your nostalgic Québecer bar on Grand Allée. People of
all ages singing along to whatever the Québécois equivalent of Journey's
Don't Stop Believin' is. They had live acoustic music going when I was
there, a pretty girl, the salt of Québec's earth, up there plucking
French Canadian heartstrings. I didn't pull here but everyone was
friendly as hell, I got numbers from a pair of pretty
late-twentysomethings, and I see no reason why one couldn't cash in on
the bonhomie here. I also realized that I couldn't take solid English
for granted in this town, which for some reason hadn't fully occurred to
me on the way in.

Saturday.
Ninkasi: I stumbled into this place in late afternoon when it was nearly
empty, talked to the bartender for some leads, and then went up to two
nineteen-year-olds at a table and asked to join them. I ended up back
there later. There's a stage, a hard-rock crowd, if you are effective in
this environment there were just enough normal-looking, i.e. not
leather-bound, pierced, et cetera) girls to make it worth while. (If you
actually like that sort of thing, this place is perfect for you.)

Ninkasi has a second bar and terrace away from the stage. It had a
foosball table, a useful prop for me. The crowd is a little on the
alternative side, and though obviously I'm not posting about a gay bar,
there were a significant number of homosexuals present. It's here that I
eventually got my bang, a college chick with an unsightly piercing but solid
otherwise.

Sacrilege: Word is when Québec collectively told the Church to fuck off,
they put this place across the street from a small old parish church and
gave it a cheeky name. Irony is, this is basically a homey neighborhood
bar, not by any means the most sacrilegious place in town. I went in
with the girls I'd met earlier; without them this would be a tough venue
to break in to. Everyone knows each other and the music is not so loud as to
break up big groups, etc. There were a lot of beta hangers-on here, guys
several years older than the girls hoping that something would happen.
When one of the girls I'd come in with rose to go home I stood and kissed her
dramatically. This earned me a small round of applause from that corner
of the bar but I sensed there were a few guys there who would rather
have kicked my ass. I look younger than I am and that might have helped
me. I guess I'm saying make sure you've won the crowd over before you
pull something brash. Anyway, she left, I made out with another high
school chick, a slutty little number who matter-of-factly said she couldn't
take me home because of her parents. I kicked myself for not having
better logistics here but you won't make that mistake.

(funny side note: I got a date with the first girl I kissed. (She demurred—
"I'm only nineteen"). Turns out she was on stage that first night at Les
Voûtes Napoléon, which I didn't put together at first.)

Star Bar, Tuesday:
I was watching the Rangers play the Canadiens in a bar on Grand Allée
and started chilling with two brothers from Ontario who had come to town
so one of them could take the test for the fire department. I knew there
must be a Tuesday night special somewhere that drew the college crowd.
These guys were amped up about Star Bar, near the University (so, not
downtown). We split a cab there. The two guys were well-built and enthusiastic
about chasing tail but they turned out to be mostly talk. One clung to a prior
female acquaintance that I don't think he'd ever banged. I did most of the
approaches and when the other guy would approach, he came off clownishly.

Anyway: I don't recommend this place. The bouncers were pretty nosy and
aggressive, and the girls fairly standoffish. They were young,
self-absorbed and mostly in to dancing with each other, an attitude
which I'm used to in the US but had not seen in Québec until that night.
We got two sets to sit at tables with us but they were not serious about
hooking up. But you may have better luck solo or with better wingmen, or
without the pressure of it being your last night in town and needing to
get the SNL. There were plenty of nubile girls there, and as a
medium-sized city I'm not sure what clearly superior options you would
have for a Tuesday night.

So, though this post was based on less than a week in the target city, I
hope it whets your interest in what I consider a little gem of a place
in northeastern North America.
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#32

Quebec City

I feel like this is one of those places that could be a "hidden gem" compared to most other parts of Canada. So far, no one with good French has really reported any expeditions in this city. Of course, that's not to say this topic hasn't been useful, but gaming in the local language can make a world of difference.

Seeing as this is a 2nd tier city thanks to size, it's probably best to incorporate time between here, Montréal, and Ottawa/Gatineau/Hull since they're essentially within 4 hours of each other.
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#33

Quebec City

Bringing back this thread to life since I'll be in Québec for 2 days during Le Carnaval de Québec, but on Wednesday and Thursday. I'll likely be near Grande-Allée, although closer to the citadel near le fleuve. Pretty much all the clubs on that street are within walking distance (Dagobert, Les Voûtes, etc.), but some of the other places such as Boudoir and Sacrilège not so much. How great is transportation around the city? And what can I expect in terms of talent and activity?

My French is intermediate, which means I can hold conversations but have some trouble with quick speakers. I'm hoping that would help to avoid some of the situations that Courage Reborn found himself in.
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#34

Quebec City

As I mentioned in my Montreal report from april last year, the hottest girls I met in town where all from Quebec or Ottawa and just visiting. It felt like a curse.
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#35

Quebec City

I have to try Quebec one day, only went there for hockey tournaments when I as younger... girls are probably less bitchy than in Montreal
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#36

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Quote: (01-24-2015 12:06 AM)Rang off the Pipe Wrote:  

How great is transportation around the city? And what can I expect in terms of talent and activity?

My French is intermediate, which means I can hold conversations but have some trouble with quick speakers. I'm hoping that would help to avoid some of the situations that Courage Reborn found himself in.

I am surprised by Vicious's assessment of the talent. My short answers to your questions: Transportation is your foot, unless you were heading down to the university. IMO talent is quite high, activity is rather low. If you have intermediate French and a cool story about why you're in town, I don't see why you shouldn't clean up here during Carnaval. I'm even thinking of heading up there myself; I'm already off work.
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#37

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Does anyone know a good way to get between Montréal and Québec that's on the cheap side? I've already looked at Allostop but the departure timings seem like they may not fit for me (need early afternoon). I may just have to take the bus if there aren't other options.


As for plans, I'm a little unsure if Boudoir is worth heading to considering how far it is from my base around the old town and Plains of Abraham. I'm sure it'll be great either way.
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#38

Quebec City

^^ PM'd you
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#39

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Quote: (01-28-2015 04:42 PM)Rang off the Pipe Wrote:  

Does anyone know a good way to get between Montréal and Québec that's on the cheap side? I've already looked at Allostop but the departure timings seem like they may not fit for me (need early afternoon). I may just have to take the bus if there aren't other options.


As for plans, I'm a little unsure if Boudoir is worth heading to considering how far it is from my base around the old town and Plains of Abraham. I'm sure it'll be great either way.

What about the VIA RAIL?

What bus service would you take?

A man is only as faithful as his options-Chris Rock
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#40

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Quote: (01-29-2015 06:37 AM)Mentavious Wrote:  

What about the VIA RAIL?

What bus service would you take?

Unless booked well in advance, Via Rail is expensive as F. It's also slightly longer.
As for the bus, "Orléans Express" would be the main company for this part of the province.
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#41

Quebec City

VIA Rail is expensive and can be long (it took 12 hours to do Montréal-Toronto by train versus 8ish hours by car, not sure about Montréal-Québec though).

Orléans Express is like 80$ for a round trip.
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#42

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I was referring to Orléans Express. It may or may not be necessary but I'd rather spend $80-90 than the approximate $150 that the train would be. The bus is also hourly whereas the train doesn't run nearly as frequently.

Quote: (01-24-2015 07:28 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

As I mentioned in my Montreal report from april last year, the hottest girls I met in town where all from Quebec or Ottawa and just visiting. It felt like a curse.

I wish I could head over to Ottawa as well since it's only 2 hours away from Montréal. I like the city quite a bit and it (as well as Gatineau) badly need some more recent data.
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#43

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Toronto MTL is normally a little less than 5 hours, MTL Quebec city is a little long for the distance (3h20) and is about 90$-140$, price varies.

Keep an eye on reductions for first class it's worth it for the comfort, food and free booze.

The bus takes 2h35 and costs around 100$.

Ottawa has a very bad reputation for game and nightlife, but it doesnt mean you can't have fun there.
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#44

Quebec City

Well, I'm sitting here in an apartment in Montréal scheming about the rest of the weekend, but I felt it was important to report my experiences in Québec once I got a proper connection.

I also want to give a shout out to Jura, who saved me quite a bit of transportation expense.

Day 1-Wednesday

I get into Québec during the evening, and get to my apartment after a short period of being lost. The downtown area and old city are both decorated for the annual winter carnival and it just adds to the beauty that already exists in the place. In any case, fast-forward to a few hours later and I head to Ninkasi at about 9:30. Some of kind of movie or something is going on there, so I don't even bother going in.

I take the 10-minute walk to Grande-Allée and enter Les Voûtes first. The place is almost empty with the exception of some guys who are there from the US on business. They're pretty well-traveled across Asia apparently and mention some stuff that a good contingent of posters here have probably experienced firsthand. After talking with them for a while, a group of 20-somethings enter the bar, and sit in front of the performance area. It's about 6 girls and 2 guys, which is too large to begin with but I approach them anyway. One of the girls is open, but it's difficult to build rapport because of the language barrier, even though she does speak some English; and quite frankly, she wasn't very interested in me. At about 11, seeing that it isn't going anywhere, I just leave and head over to Dagobert.

Dagobert is dead, but they force me to pay for a coat check before I enter the actual club. The club itself is great, but there's nobody except for staff and maybe 5 people. I bounce out of there and walk back toward the old town with the intention of calling it a night. However, I notice some girls smoking outside of the bar (I forget the name) right above Les Voûtes. They say I should go inside since L'Oreal is hosting a party there. I do, and the ratio is very, very favorable (75-25). Unfortunately, most of them aren't very great looking or are on the older side. I approach about 4 sets, but they all blow me off very rapidly. After that, I finally do call it a night. The city is so dead that you could hear a pin drop.

Day 2-Thursday

I wake up and head out to experience the day in Québec. I hadn't paid much attention to the tourists when I got in the previous night, but I do pick up on it here. The majority of visitors are families, children, and older people who are in town for the carnival festivities. People in their 20's are a rare sight and everybody seems preoccupied with getting to some place or the other. The nasty weather present also didn't help with that endeavor.

Like ladder did on his trip, I head to Ninkasi in the late afternoon for some leads. The bartender tells me that Québec is generally pretty dead but starts of pick up on Thursdays. No one else is there except for two other dudes, but fast forward to the nighttime and the place is crowded. It's not really my kind of scene (rocker, etc.) and there is karaoke going on as well. The setup is quite bad with all the tables just strewn about and opening anyone attractive just isn't happening. I get out of there after about an hour.

It's 11:30 at night now, and so I head over to Dagobert again. Unlike last night, it's not empty, but it's nowhere near being crowded. I order a drink from one of the bartenders and when he hears me speak French to him, he switches to English and compliments me on how well I speak the language. It turns out he's originally from north Africa and we talk about how French is spoken so "differently" in Québec (not a positive discussion). He even offers me to take 2 rounds of shots with him. Great guy.

The atmosphere is quite clubby, and with a suit jacket on, I'm definitely overdressed compared to the people there. It didn't stop me from approaching but I got rather quickly blown off by 6-8 sets of girls that were there. Some of these were dance approaches while others where near the bar. I bounce out of there close to 1 AM.

The final place that I go to is Maurice, which I had not even thought about on Wednesday. It's a significantly older crowd, but there are more people than there were at Dagobert. It's almost all dance floor so I just move to the music and notice I'm getting attention from a few of the women there. The most notable of the women was in her late 30's and she was shocked when I told her my real age (low 20's). She could speak English but she wasn't comfortable doing it, and my ability to hear French at a quick speed isn't the greatest. Nothing really developed from that, and I headed out at the 3 AM closing. Hail Mary game wasn't an option since no one was around. Typical of Québec in the night it seems.


More to come later.
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#45

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Hi,

Weather now is very cold even for Qc city, coldest period of the winter.

As I mentioned in another Quebec thread, going to Quebec in February and expecting action on Wednesday and Thursday night is audacious, it would be similar like hitting Bregen Norway or perharps Frankfurt Germany on those weekdays, no big parties.

Hell, I've seen no parties in city like Moscow or Paris on those days many times , those who want to contradict me I'm ready for a fight...

QC CITY is a Friday Saturday city period, but when the party gets on does it party.

Go to Boudoir tonight Friday and Commission des Liqueurs in Ste-Foy (bus number 7 that stays on Chemin Ste Foy) tomorrow.

Arrive at 11h15 at Boudoir and at midnight at Commission, be prepared for 20 min line at both places, bring glove and tuque if possible for the wait.

I can answer questions if you want, good luck!

**************I just read you are now in MTL, go to Saint-Edouard tonight and Rouge club tomorrow, you can't go wrong Saint Edouard arrive at 10h30, Rouge 11h to get in...

Quote: (02-06-2015 04:24 PM)Rang off the Pipe Wrote:  

Well, I'm sitting here in an apartment in Montréal scheming about the rest of the weekend, but I felt it was important to report my experiences in Québec once I got a proper connection.

I also want to give a shout out to Jura, who saved me quite a bit of transportation expense.

Day 1-Wednesday

I get into Québec during the evening, and get to my apartment after a short period of being lost. The downtown area and old city are both decorated for the annual winter carnival and it just adds to the beauty that already exists in the place. In any case, fast-forward to a few hours later and I head to Ninkasi at about 9:30. Some of kind of movie or something is going on there, so I don't even bother going in.

I take the 10-minute walk to Grande-Allée and enter Les Voûtes first. The place is almost empty with the exception of some guys who are there from the US on business. They're pretty well-traveled across Asia apparently and mention some stuff that a good contingent of posters here have probably experienced firsthand. After talking with them for a while, a group of 20-somethings enter the bar, and sit in front of the performance area. It's about 6 girls and 2 guys, which is too large to begin with but I approach them anyway. One of the girls is open, but it's difficult to build rapport because of the language barrier, even though she does speak some English; and quite frankly, she wasn't very interested in me. At about 11, seeing that it isn't going anywhere, I just leave and head over to Dagobert.

Dagobert is dead, but they force me to pay for a coat check before I enter the actual club. The club itself is great, but there's nobody except for staff and maybe 5 people. I bounce out of there and walk back toward the old town with the intention of calling it a night. However, I notice some girls smoking outside of the bar (I forget the name) right above Les Voûtes. They say I should go inside since L'Oreal is hosting a party there. I do, and the ratio is very, very favorable (75-25). Unfortunately, most of them aren't very great looking or are on the older side. I approach about 4 sets, but they all blow me off very rapidly. After that, I finally do call it a night. The city is so dead that you could hear a pin drop.

Day 2-Thursday

I wake up and head out to experience the day in Québec. I hadn't paid much attention to the tourists when I got in the previous night, but I do pick up on it here. The majority of visitors are families, children, and older people who are in town for the carnival festivities. People in their 20's are a rare sight and everybody seems preoccupied with getting to some place or the other. The nasty weather present also didn't help with that endeavor.

Like ladder did on his trip, I head to Ninkasi in the late afternoon for some leads. The bartender tells me that Québec is generally pretty dead but starts of pick up on Thursdays. No one else is there except for two other dudes, but fast forward to the nighttime and the place is crowded. It's not really my kind of scene (rocker, etc.) and there is karaoke going on as well. The setup is quite bad with all the tables just strewn about and opening anyone attractive just isn't happening. I get out of there after about an hour.

It's 11:30 at night now, and so I head over to Dagobert again. Unlike last night, it's not empty, but it's nowhere near being crowded. I order a drink from one of the bartenders and when he hears me speak French to him, he switches to English and compliments me on how well I speak the language. It turns out he's originally from north Africa and we talk about how French is spoken so "differently" in Québec (not a positive discussion). He even offers me to take 2 rounds of shots with him. Great guy.

The atmosphere is quite clubby, and with a suit jacket on, I'm definitely overdressed compared to the people there. It didn't stop me from approaching but I got rather quickly blown off by 6-8 sets of girls that were there. Some of these were dance approaches while others where near the bar. I bounce out of there close to 1 AM.

The final place that I go to is Maurice, which I had not even thought about on Wednesday. It's a significantly older crowd, but there are more people than there were at Dagobert. It's almost all dance floor so I just move to the music and notice I'm getting attention from a few of the women there. The most notable of the women was in her late 30's and she was shocked when I told her my real age (low 20's). She could speak English but she wasn't comfortable doing it, and my ability to hear French at a quick speed isn't the greatest. Nothing really developed from that, and I headed out at the 3 AM closing. Hail Mary game wasn't an option since no one was around. Typical of Québec in the night it seems.


More to come later.
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#46

Quebec City

Verdict


Québec seems to only be worth going to on the weekends, and quite frankly I would advise against going there in the winter. The weather is miserable and it certainly limits the daygame opportunities as people are not in such a great mood. The talent is definitely there, as I saw some rather attractive women during my time there. The general population, however, seems to be older, as most of the people I saw were middle-aged. There is a university in Sainte-Foy, but that's a good distance away. Many of the younger people seem to be in that area as opposed to the heart of the town. Note that this doesn't include the tourists, who are usually families and older people. The city gets many English-speaking visitors from other parts of Canada.

French knowledge helps significantly, but there is a caveat--it opens the door, but guarantees nothing else. I, myself, got complimented many times for speaking French well; but since I am not fluent, it was difficult to progress much with girls. I can't pick up quick conversations at this point and to hold a sustained conversation with a native French speaker, especially a Québecois, can be tricky for me. It seems as if there are more people in Québec that know English than what may be suggested in this topic, but some of them will only switch languages if one makes a good effort at speaking to them in French.

That being said, I noticed that many girls that I talked to used the language barrier as a shit test. Considering it's still North America I wasn't surprised by this, but it was a bit disconcerting to think that some orbiter with weak game could get a leg up on me simply because he was proficient in the Québec-style of French. Don't expect the women to be engaging, especially since they are still westerners and close to the United States and anglo-Canada.

I would be curious to see how Québec is on a weekend during the summer, as the girls do know how to take care of themselves. I would also like to be able to admire the sheer beauty and history of the city without having to worry about my toes going stiff from frostbite.
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#47

Quebec City

Everything is in Canadian dollars.

Housing

AirBnB is the way to go here. There aren't as many hosts compared to Montréal, but certainly enough to choose from. I got lucky and was able to find somewhere for under $50 a night deep in the old town not very far from the Château Frontenac. Most places will run around $100 a night or more, though; especially in the old town.

Anywhere downtown or in the old city--preferably near the Plains of Abraham or western wall of old Québec--is good, but you don't want to be too far north or west of downtown or at the bottom of the ridge near the St. Lawrence River (Boulevard Champlain).

Transportation

Québec is a 2-2.5 hour drive from Montréal, and there are buses that frequently run between the two cities. Those run close to $100 round-trip. The trains were mentioned in a previous post, and those are close to $150 round trip.

The airport nearby is Jean Lesage, which is far northwest from Québec proper. Taxis to downtown run at $34.25 each way as of this post. There are flights to Québec from Toronto, Ottawa, and Montréal, but a few direct flights leave from Newark and JFK airports each day in the US. I only found that from one of the American guys I had talked to in Les Voûtes.

There are plenty of buses that zip around Québec, but the area is so small that it's not necessary to even use them if you're staying in the right spot. Taxis aren't very hard to find, and the "Co-op" company seems to be the most visible one.

Food

Being that this is Québec, French dining is in no shortage here. Getting it at a reasonable price is another story. Many of the restaurants, especially in the old town, will run you a pretty penny. There are some places in that area with lower prices (under $20 per meal), but you really have to look. I personally recommend Casse-Crêpe Breton and Le Cochon Dingue (there are a few of these) if you want French food at a more reasonable price. I had some great mussels from the second restaurant. There are a few chains such as Subway around, but they are outside of the old city.

Safety

Even during the carnival, you could hear a pin drop during the late night and early morning. However, I never felt unsafe at any point. Québec is actually one of the safest cities in North America apparently.
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Quebec City

Quebec City is my hometown.

Most of what has been said about English is true; however by speaking English, you will have luck with younger girls. This English-hating mentality from older people comes from Montreal anglophones trying to make the French language disappear in the province. I personally disagree with that, as even as a native French speaker, I believe everybody in the world should speak at least basic English to eliminate language barriers.

A lot of girls there are seeking validation; you seemed to have a high value to them, so now that they know that they can have a man which is perceived as having a higher value, they will go hunt for another one. A lot of girls are cockteasing, but don't let that get to you. Plenty of them are honest girls that are bangable.

QC City is indeed dead on week days, and is to avoid in winter, unless there are a few days of warm weather. Also most girls who live with their parents will still make you sneak in if they are interested; so that girl was just a bad apple.

Generally, the more you head east in the province, the most English-hating people will be. And anyway, those are not the people you want to have in your life. In some cities in the east, I got blown off because I was not speaking the same dialect than them. They saw me as an outsider. If you are not fluent in French, it's best to stay around Montreal (and the suburbs), people are generally more tolerant there. I know that sucks and it's unfortunate that you didn't pull, but we can't change a mentality that easily. It's slowly getting there.
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#49

Quebec City

Quebec City girls who stay in Quebec City are a different breed from QC girls who move to Montreal.

The former seem to dislike speaking English, and more closed off to outsiders. The latter were consistently the most open, best personality girls I met while in Montreal.

Actions speak louder than words. The act of moving to a bigger city is what separates them from a small city mentality.
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