[Joeno]

Highly subjective:

Australia: D (F for locals) - Good job if you can bang 1 Aussie girl / decade

UK: C/D

Japan: A. But not for living permanently.

China: B.

Poland: A/B

Whole of Scandinavia: C

Except Iceland: B

Whole of Western Europe: C

Italy: B/C. For some reason the attitudes are less toxic.

Baltics: B

Ukraine: A

Russia: B

Thailand: C. Too many ugly sheboys

[JWLZG]

(01-16-2019 06:32 PM)Joeno Wrote:  

Highly subjective:

Australia: D (F for locals) - Good job if you can bang 1 Aussie girl / decade

UK: C/D

Japan: A. But not for living permanently.

China: B.

Poland: A/B

Whole of Scandinavia: C

Except Iceland: B

Whole of Western Europe: C

Italy: B/C. For some reason the attitudes are less toxic.

Baltics: B

Ukraine: A

Russia: B

Thailand: C. Too many ugly sheboys

Too right it's highly subjective.

China is ranked higher than Scandinavia? I mean yeah if you've got a predilection for Chinese gold diggers in London maybe but someone needs to take a bullet for the rest of us I guess.

Have you even been to half these countries? It seems like you're trying too hard to pay lip service to moanosphere ideals (grouping all of "Western Europe" into one category).

What are you basing these rankings on? Your personal appraisal of these regions? Or your (perceived) receptivity there? lol

(01-16-2019 06:32 PM)Joeno Wrote:  

Australia: D (F for locals) - Good job if you can bang 1 Aussie girl / decade

BTW I've managed to bang more than 3 (+6) aussie girls within 1 year and made out with many more in that time

[mattadamstk]

Checking out the place has been on my bucket list for quite some time. I made it a priority since it seems that places in general and brick and mortar in particular are going away. I really like to travel.

Best Packages

[Joeno]

(01-17-2019 09:48 AM)JWLZG Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 06:32 PM)Joeno Wrote:  

Highly subjective:

Australia: D (F for locals) - Good job if you can bang 1 Aussie girl / decade

UK: C/D

Japan: A. But not for living permanently.

China: B.

Poland: A/B

Whole of Scandinavia: C

Except Iceland: B

Whole of Western Europe: C

Italy: B/C. For some reason the attitudes are less toxic.

Baltics: B

Ukraine: A

Russia: B

Thailand: C. Too many ugly sheboys

Too right it's highly subjective.

China is ranked higher than Scandinavia? I mean yeah if you've got a predilection for Chinese gold diggers in London maybe but someone needs to take a bullet for the rest of us I guess.

Have you even been to half these countries? It seems like you're trying too hard to pay lip service to moanosphere ideals (grouping all of "Western Europe" into one category).

What are you basing these rankings on? Your personal appraisal of these regions? Or your (perceived) receptivity there? lol

(01-16-2019 06:32 PM)Joeno Wrote:  

Australia: D (F for locals) - Good job if you can bang 1 Aussie girl / decade

BTW I've managed to bang more than 3 (+6) aussie girls within 1 year and made out with many more in that time

The rankings are backed by my PhD thesis called "The International Whore".

[[email protected]]

Poland isn't the pussy paradise it's been advertised to be... I'm in Warsaw. Is this place bad for us or something? 5'9 hapa here. What locations are better?

[jselysianeagle]

(01-17-2019 01:23 PM)[email protected] Wrote:  

Poland isn't the pussy paradise it's been advertised to be... I'm in Warsaw. Is this place bad for us or something? 5'9 hapa here. What locations are better?

Polish girls are cute, but it's never been advertised as a "pussy paradise" in the sense that regardless of your own race/ethnicity, it's not a place to rack up notches easily, unlike, say, parts of SEA/LatAm.

Like EE, it's a place better suited for the long game.

[JWLZG]

(01-17-2019 12:16 PM)Joeno Wrote:  

The rankings are backed by my PhD thesis called "The International Whore".

(01-16-2019 06:32 PM)Joeno Wrote:  

Highly subjective:

[SNIP]

Still waiting on your answer to this:

(01-17-2019 09:48 AM)JWLZG Wrote:  

What are you basing these rankings on? Your personal appraisal of these regions? Or your (perceived) receptivity there? lol

Or what other metric? The speed of girls from said country jumping into bed with you?

And how on earth can all of Western Europe less Italy and the Nordics get lumped into one single category.

(01-17-2019 01:23 PM)[email protected] Wrote:  

Poland isn't the pussy paradise it's been advertised to be... I'm in Warsaw.

(01-17-2019 01:23 PM)[email protected] Wrote:  

Poland isn't the pussy paradise it's been advertised to be...

lolwut

[a beer is enough]

(05-28-2010 03:56 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Nice roundup. I was talking to some guy last month who said Italians in Italy are the hardest. Followed by Spain.

I think I'm going to have to plan a European flag collecting trip.

I read this post from back in 2010 and cannot help but wonder what happened that we went from excellence like this to player shaming. Not sure how Roosh's trip went throughout the countries and how it materialized but this is the kind of shit we need more of instead of the holier than thou player shaming which has come up on this forum, telling men to live in shitholes like San Francisco for a career.

[Joeno]

(01-17-2019 05:03 PM)JWLZG Wrote:  

Still waiting on your answer to this:

(01-17-2019 09:48 AM)JWLZG Wrote:  

What are you basing these rankings on? Your personal appraisal of these regions? Or your (perceived) receptivity there? lol

Or what other metric? The speed of girls from said country jumping into bed with you?

And how on earth can all of Western Europe less Italy and the Nordics get lumped into one single category.

Why you arguing against my personal experiences lol. Do you have a strategy for western european countries, best place and approach? Happy to hear it.

[JWLZG]

OK so you haven't actually been to half these countries

(01-18-2019 06:16 AM)Joeno Wrote:  

Why you arguing against my personal experiences lol.

Because I asked you a serious question:

(01-17-2019 09:48 AM)JWLZG Wrote:  

What are you basing these rankings on? Your personal appraisal of these regions? Or your (perceived) receptivity there?

And got a nonsense answer in reply:

(01-17-2019 12:16 PM)Joeno Wrote:  

The rankings are backed by my PhD thesis called "The International Whore".

Which brings this back to my question above:

(01-16-2019 06:32 PM)Joeno Wrote:  

snip

Is this based on ease, or your personal appreciation? Because anyone who seriously thinks that Russia/Ukraine is easier than Australia/UK is delusional, was paying for it, or willingly spreading misinformation about places he's never been to.

(01-18-2019 06:16 AM)Joeno Wrote:  

Do you have a strategy for western european countries, best place and approach? Happy to hear it.

Since I said that you can't just unilaterally lump all of "western europe" into one supracategory, I think you know the sort of answer that question deserves.

Furthermore, asian guys who tend to put asian women on a pedestal tend to get eaten alive by them, especially when they go out of their way to game them in the west. Besides, you haven't had as much luck with asian girls from my recollection

[Joeno]

[Don't reveal a member's first name. -Mod]

[JWLZG]

(01-18-2019 09:32 AM)Joeno Wrote:  

[Don't reveal a member's first name. -Mod]

Before you get banned for doxxing a member and divulging a group that provided you so much undeserved value, I'd like you to say to my face that you really believed a plane ticket was the sole magic wand that could solve your game predicaments in one fell swoop; with no other work needed on your part — especially with such a scathing appraisal of home as you gave — so I can gauge that you're really that delusional.

Here in "Western Europe" (and East, for that matter) — however toxic you may think it be — are generally high-trust societies that emphasise honour, humility, and grace; all qualities that you don't seem fit for.

Or maybe you should book a ticket to russia/ukraine after all, we'd eagerly await your data sheets where you put your money where your mouth is and enlighten us how you can easily accumulate mass notch ccounts of thirsty slavic poosy — including the bit where you get arse-raped by gopniks.

[GyopoPlayboy]

(01-18-2019 09:32 AM)Joeno Wrote:  

[Don't reveal a member's first name. -Mod]

doxxing should result in an immediate no-questions-asked ban.

at worst, if there was malicious intent behind it, it demonstrates a lack of baseline emotional maturity and restraint (aka being a phaggot).

and at best, it displays a lack of situational awareness (aka being a retard).

and we have no place here for either retards or phaggots.

[Brosemite]

(01-20-2019 09:04 AM)GyopoPlayboy Wrote:  

(01-18-2019 09:32 AM)Joeno Wrote:  

[Don't reveal a member's first name. -Mod]

doxxing should result in an immediate no-questions-asked ban.

at worst, if there was malicious intent behind it, it demonstrates a lack of baseline emotional maturity and restraint (aka being a phaggot).

and at best, it displays a lack of situational awareness (aka being a retard).

and we have no place here for either retards or phaggots.

I don't want to change the subject of this thread too (which is a pretty stupid topic overall), but Joeno is a guy others and myself have tried helping via PM, offline, etc.

It was always met with apathy, resent, and then followed up by verbal threats against everyone that stepped up to help him.

Not surprised he's doxxing members that have gone the extra mile to mentor him....

[endeavor hustle]

Really now. Verbal threats on the internet you say.

Hey Joeno, PM me dude I'll help you slay all the pussy out there.

But on a serious note, this is a public forum guys. There is no way to police for retards and faggots.

[Brosemite]

(01-20-2019 05:24 PM)endeavor hustle Wrote:  

Really now. Verbal threats on the internet you say.

Nothing serious

(01-20-2019 05:24 PM)endeavor hustle Wrote:  

Hey Joeno, PM me dude I'll help you slay all the pussy out there.

Good luck..nobody can get through to him as the time invested will end up dragging you down

[waughcraft]

I'm a British Chinese in my late 20s who spent most of my life here in London, UK. I speak fluent Mandarin and English.

From my experience of daygaming and nightgaming in London and across Europe, I find East Asian, German, Czech, Russian, Baltic, Norwegian, Turkish, Morrocon and even Iranian girls quite responsive.

On the other hand - British/Anglosphere, Belgian, Dutch, and Swedish girls are rarely interested in me.

I am 5"11' with a skinny physique and I am financially stable (have a professional job), but London is too expensive & financially stressful to live, so ideally I would like to move abroad to somewhere cheap with a lot of hot girls interested in me (Asian guy) lol

However, the advantage of living in London is that you get exposed to a lot of different nationalities other than British girls so you will start to know where your edge is. It is also a good place to learn game due to the sheer volume of women.

Also, I noticed the British girls in the Midlands/Northern England are friendlier than London/Southeast ones

[worldtraveler3]

Belgian, Dutch, and Swedish girls are rarely interested in me.

Because these countries have too much of a feminist agenda.


What would you rate French? I would say probably the middle.

[Joeno]

(01-25-2019 10:52 PM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:  

Belgian, Dutch, and Swedish girls are rarely interested in me.

Because these countries have too much of a feminist agenda.


What would you rate French? I would say probably the middle.

Scandi / Germanics even if they don't have an agenda against Asians (which they kinda do as they fall in the sphere of influence of America) - just aren't that compatible. Usually tall, large boned, square-faced. Swedes do have quite a nice shape and can be attractive, but those girls are usually reserved for tall black men, or short hairy arabs. At least that's what i observed. A 5'9 pretty good looking Swede guy said he has a lot of trouble picking up Swedish girls because they're not interested in Swedish guys below 6'3 or some shit.

(01-21-2019 12:17 AM)Brosemite Wrote:  

Good luck..nobody can get through to him as the time invested will end up dragging you down

Didn't know... that was possible

Also, I don't actually know you. But you seem like a nice guy

[JWLZG]

(01-25-2019 04:57 PM)waughcraft Wrote:  

On the other hand - British/Anglosphere, Belgian, Dutch, and Swedish girls are rarely interested in me.

I am 5"11' with a skinny physique [...]

Found the issue mate

(01-25-2019 10:52 PM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:  

Belgian, Dutch, and Swedish girls are rarely interested in me.

Because these countries have too much of a feminist agenda.


What would you rate French? I would say probably the middle.

Yep sure mate — toadying to manosphere dogma really scores you brownie points for being "one of them". But if it helps you sleep better at night rationalising that a "feminist agenda" is supposed to equal "Sexual racism".

I don't see how anyone can take the last few posts on this thread with any credulity. Offering such hyperbolic scenarios of blanket sexual discrimination of one race against another "x-race women all won't give y-race men the time of day....ever" is too far-fetched to be bothering on childish, and frankly, speaks more to the assertor's perceptions of persecution and inferiority than anything else. Furthermore to deflect such a complex towards a backhanded epithet exposing a blanket prejudice against jews, blacks and arabs.

Sexually successful men with women of any race don't go airing such wholesale generalisations of sexual "(((agendas)))". It smacks of bitterness and mentally masturbating an inferiority complex. Just like with hardcore alt-right/manosphere adherents, I don't know anyone that's socially normal who seeks refuge in such extreme persecution complexes.

But since you guys made such far-fetched assertions, perhaps you might have some sort of empirical evidence to back up your claims? Beyond that being a reflection of your own negative receptivity from women of said races.

Furthermore it's cool to have a preference for asian women, but to justify any lack of success with Nordic and Germanic women as saying that they're "just aren't compatible" is a further betrayal one's dating angst. To propagate the belief that asian guys are by default short and skinny is kind of self-deprecating and attempting to pawn off one's shortcomings towards a whole. Just because one is too fucking lazy to lift doesn't mean you should cut down the rest of your race who do.

I don't go around thinking I'm better than the next guy just because I have a preference for white women of Anglo and Northern/Eastern European background — and am for the most part successful at it.

[endeavor hustle]

Lift, approach, and wear good threads.

Really it comes down to that.

[worldtraveler3]

Did you read his post?
This dude just gave you empirical evidence that he has been living in London many years and done all those hundreds of approaches and came to his analysis that swedes are harder.

If you want to debate his conclusions why don’t you post up all ythat ur experiences and locations where you did them.

Asian dudes are in general skinny. He is probably normal for his age. So he can be considered an average Asian dude in the experienments. It wouldn’t make sense to do the tests for other profiles.

It is widely acknowledged that the whole point of traveling abroad and this forum is to find more feminine and pleasant women. You seem to be ok with that feminist agenda. Why are you on this forum? If you think the views here are extreme, maybe you should leave the forum.

[JWLZG]

(01-26-2019 08:55 PM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:  

Did you read his post?
This dude just gave you empirical evidence that he has been living in London many years and done all those hundreds of approaches and came to his analysis that swedes are harder.

He's also said he's done well with Norwegian women, they're not that culturally different for his results to have been so abysmal in comparison.

I've spent 3 weeks in London last time I was there, and got a massively different result. What's your point? That's one bloke's experiences — how does that in any way reflect on how "all Swedish women" sexually stigmatise "all asian men". Swedes aren't even that numerous in London relative to other foreigners....maybe if he was just using London as a litmus test, his observations would be somewhat different?

Of course my suggestion was partly dripping with ridicule. You're not going to derive statistics that "all x girls" sexually discriminate against "all y ans z men". I remember reading a quote on the Tinder thread: vaginas aren't racist. No race of women are born wholesale programmed to look down on men of a another race.

(01-26-2019 08:55 PM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:  

If you want to debate his conclusions why don’t you post up all ythat ur experiences and locations where you did them.

Well mate, what do you expect? A lifetime data sheet from me on this thread of all my approaches, dates, and bangs? I've written about my experiences elsewhere in this forum, and I know they get enough readership. It's up to you to decide how legit they are

(01-26-2019 08:55 PM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:  

Asian dudes are in general skinny. He is probably normal for his age. So he can be considered an average Asian dude in the experienments. It wouldn’t make sense to do the tests for other profiles.

More self-patronising male physique-hamsterisation. Maybe 15 years ago, I was definitely more stocky than the average male when I visited relatives in Singapore, but the last time I visited, I noticed a considerable uptick in gym culture and body mass. Conversely, I might be "normal" in build in white Australian circles but loads of white guys back home are skinnier than me. Physical build is hardly due to genetics as you might think as opposed to lifestyle and diet, that this idea that "skinny is the default nature of asian men" is self-patronising, insulting, and a rationalisation of one's laziness.

So....maybe eat more steak and yoghurt, and less rice?

Here in Europe, being the ripped hulk isn't even the desired ideal among European girls, regardless of how might think the Germanic countries are a carbon copy of the anglosphere. Girls here actually prefer the leaner, athletic build, and further to that, I'm more muscular than most european guys, which should give you an idea of how rampant the gym culture here is compared to Australia/USA.

(01-26-2019 08:55 PM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:  

It is widely acknowledged that the whole point of traveling abroad and this forum is to find more feminine and pleasant women.

Well what then? There seems to be this idea that the Germanic and Nordic countries are "Anglosphere lite", with "funny languages and faggy clothing".
Quite obviously these people have never been, because I live in one of them, and I'm confirming in black and white that it's culturally very distinct from the Anglosphere, and that reflects in dating too. I'm not saying it's pussy paradise here, but guys even on this forum relocate for other reasons than game, and people who suppose that expatriating to a Northern or Germanic European country is "defeating the purpose" is talking nonsense.

Or what would have rather have me say? That asian guys here are forced to wear placards saying "don't date this man, he is an inferior being"? [/sarcasm]

Furthermore, I've already said that a plane ticket isn't automatically going to make pussy rain from the heavens; regardless of how "pleasant" women overseas are.

(01-26-2019 08:55 PM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:  

You seem to be ok with that feminist agenda. Why are you on this forum? If you think the views here are extreme, maybe you should leave the forum.

What "feminist agenda"?? And are you still suggesting that that's casually linked to some sort of stigmatisation of asian guys in Europe? I don't disqualify women wholesale for perceived feelings of sexual racism based stemming from an inferiority complex.

Nowhere does this forum advocate such; and it's not the ideas of relocating to Manila or Medellín that gain mainstream traction on this forum, thankfully. Guys who feel the need to move to solely 3rd world shitholes for "pleasant women" are the sort of fucking losers who thank god don't dominate ideas here.

[JWLZG]

(01-26-2019 10:12 AM)Joeno Wrote:  

Swedes do have quite a nice shape and can be attractive, but those girls are usually reserved for tall black men, or short hairy arabs. At least that's what i observed. A 5'9 pretty good looking Swede guy said he has a lot of trouble picking up Swedish girls because they're not interested in Swedish guys below 6'3 or some shit.

Can we ban this troll already? There is no proliferation of black and arab men in Sweden to be able to monopolise every white Swedish woman, if that were the case, the entire Swedish race would be extinct within a couple of generations. No-one who has been to Sweden can truthfully conclude that.

This forum rests on the integrity of people's experiences, not typing made-up masturbatory fantasies. No wonder you fail so hard with european girls. They value honour and integrity in a man, not a try-hard dark-triad alpha — which you aren't, by the way.

(01-26-2019 08:55 PM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:  

This dude just gave you empirical evidence that he has been living in London

(01-26-2019 08:55 PM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:  

It is widely acknowledged that the whole point of traveling abroad and this forum is to find more feminine and pleasant women. You seem to be ok with that feminist agenda. Why are you on this forum? If you think the views here are extreme, maybe you should leave the forum.

A right wing tenet of accepting personal responsibility is supposedly upheld by this forum, in practice if not on paper. It doesn't always get practised de facto, because the most rewarding route isn't the easiest. Far easier, sure, to go absolve your culpability towards your game ills and pawn them off feminists, (((leftists))), and their foot-soldiers of black and arab guys. Hence the jumping to conclusions of mythical "asian-male-hating feminist agenda, the explanation of the Nordic and germanic countries being Anglosphere clones*, and the equally bogus idea of Asian male incompatibility with northern european women due to innate skinniness versus their "big-boned" builds**

* I was recently told that Anglophone expats in the Netherlands have a rough time making friends with Dutch people, and it's somewhat the same here (if anything, I'm a bit more successful in that aspect than the average expat) so that idea is nonsense.

** another wannabe-moanosphere masturbatory fantasy. I've come across way more lithe and slender nordic girls than "big-boned" ones.

[waughcraft]

(01-27-2019 05:16 AM)JWLZG Wrote:  

(01-26-2019 08:55 PM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:  

Did you read his post?
This dude just gave you empirical evidence that he has been living in London many years and done all those hundreds of approaches and came to his analysis that swedes are harder.

He's also said he's done well with Norwegian women, they're not that culturally different for his results to have been so abysmal in comparison.

I've spent 3 weeks in London last time I was there, and got a massively different result. What's your point? That's one bloke's experiences — how does that in any way reflect on how "all Swedish women" sexually stigmatise "all asian men". Swedes aren't even that numerous in London relative to other foreigners....maybe if he was just using London as a litmus test, his observations would be somewhat different?

Well I did not say I've f**ked xxx amount of Norweigan women, but from my cold approaches in London they seem to be more willing to text me back more than other groups of women. Unfortunately they are often on 1 day tripin London, so haven't actually got decent logistics to womanize them. Also, I've never been to Norway because it's even more expensive compared to London. Would be interesting to run some game in Norway someday though.

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Posted by worldtraveler3 - Today 01:55 AM
Did you read his post?
This dude just gave you empirical evidence that he has been living in London many years and done all those hundreds of approaches and came to his analysis that swedes are harder.

If you want to debate his conclusions why don’t you post up all ythat ur experiences and locations where you did them.

Asian dudes are in general skinny. He is probably normal for his age. So he can be considered an average Asian dude in the experienments. It wouldn’t make sense to do the tests for other profiles.

It is widely acknowledged that the whole point of traveling abroad and this forum is to find more feminine and pleasant women. You seem to be ok with that feminist agenda. Why are you on this forum? If you think the views here are extreme, maybe you should leave the forum.

Yeah, my physique is average Asian dude - skinny. I have been doing 3 to 4 times per week in the gym, but in the past 4 to 5 years, I had changed my full time job 3 times and it was quite stressful to deal with politics and also stressful to find a new job (hence the psychological stress made me skinnier after I put on some muscle gains). Luckily right now I have a stable job in financial services that hopefully won't see me leaving soon, so I'll actually be able to build some weight.

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Posted by JWLZG - Today 11:35 AM

Well what then? There seems to be this idea that the Germanic and Nordic countries are "Anglosphere lite", with "funny languages and faggy clothing".

Quite obviously these people have never been, because I live in one of them, and I'm confirming in black and white that it's culturally very distinct from the Anglosphere, and that reflects in dating too. I'm not saying it's pussy paradise here, but guys even on this forum relocate for other reasons than game, and people who suppose that expatriating to a Northern or Germanic European country is "defeating the purpose" is talking nonsense. tard

Somewhat agreed (I've been out with a couple of German girls back then). Also it's interesting back in WW2, Hitler was racist against all foreign races except the "Honorary Aryan race" (Japanese, Korean and Chinese). Bear in mind Hitler was an Austrian.

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Posted by worldtraveler3 - Today 01:55 AM
Did you read his post?

This dude just gave you empirical evidence that he has been living in London many years and done all those hundreds of approaches and came to his analysis that swedes are harder.

I actually went to Stockholm once for a very short trip (considering inter-European flights are cheap), did some cold approaches on streets, Swedish girls were quite polite, but did not give me IOIs and I could tell they wanted to leave the conversation asap...

Unfortunately I did not have any datasheet for Latina girls since I don't live in Americas (lol)

Also, Middle eastern women seem interesting since I discovered game (lol)

Also, from my experience, if you're a middle-class East Asian guy, you just probably want to avoid traveling or working in London - it's just not worth the ROI - even though you spend less than NYC, but you also get paid way less than NYC. https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/co...omparison. So essentially you get stressed out for working everyday (especially in finance) but spend it all in rent, transport and food, and have nothing much to save up for a big vacation in the future so you can actually focus on game. I wondered why my parents brought me to the UK rather than Germany lol

It's also interesting to see there are more "black male-attractive white British female" pairs walking around in the streets in London than U.S. metropolitan cities (For the U.S. I mean I've been to Boston, NYC and San Francisco)