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The lowdown on Ho Chi Minh/Vietnam - datasheet

The lowdown on Ho Chi Minh/Vietnam - datasheet

Ok so anyone else here has
shitty numbers on tinder?

I'm getting 1-5 a day here... Pathetic numbers for a 20's muscular white guy in Asia. Thailand Philippines Indonesia, even halal Malaysia I get 15+ a day. Hell, I get 1-5 in America!

Who else has this or knows why?
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The lowdown on Ho Chi Minh/Vietnam - datasheet

Quote: (03-31-2019 12:00 PM)chrisblackbeard Wrote:  

Ok so anyone else here has
shitty numbers on tinder?

I'm getting 1-5 a day here... Pathetic numbers for a 20's muscular white guy in Asia. Thailand Philippines Indonesia, even halal Malaysia I get 15+ a day. Hell, I get 1-5 in America!

Who else has this or knows why?

Saigon sucks dude. Cebu and Manila and BKK are way better. [Image: tard.gif]

I'm assuming you have Tinder Plus right? Stop being cheap and run a boost maybe.

Maine and Canadian lobsters are the same animal. Prove me wrong.
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The lowdown on Ho Chi Minh/Vietnam - datasheet

Vietnamese women are very easy. Same with your typical expat chick with hiked up shorts.

With Vietnamese women, simply invite them to coffee. Then after coffee, bounce around on your motorbike you've rented or snag a MaiLinh or VinaSun. Using the GrabTaxi app will make that pretty easy. Flagging a taxi down is of course an option, but sometimes you get unlucky and it takes awhile to catch a taxi looking for a passenger.

But yeah, coffee, then more dates around the city. There's a movie theater in the Bitexco building that has love seats as an option where there's no arm rest in between you. Get them there and everything else will write itself.

Disclaimer: I haven't been there since May 2017.
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Quote: (03-31-2019 04:06 PM)DanxBeToGawd Wrote:  

Vietnamese women are very easy. Same with your typical expat chick with hiked up shorts.

With Vietnamese women, simply invite them to coffee. Then after coffee, bounce around on your motorbike you've rented or snag a MaiLinh or VinaSun. Using the GrabTaxi app will make that pretty easy. Flagging a taxi down is of course an option, but sometimes you get unlucky and it takes awhile to catch a taxi looking for a passenger.

But yeah, coffee, then more dates around the city. There's a movie theater in the Bitexco building that has love seats as an option where there's no arm rest in between you. Get them there and everything else will write itself.

Disclaimer: I haven't been there since May 2017.


They seem very interested and easy... When I talk to them face to face. The problem is this same interest level is not shown on tinder, and im having trouble getting leads.

I'm sure "Stop being cheap and run a boost" would work, but that doesn't address the issue of the same thirst in person not carrying over on tinder... Having to pay for a boost indicates you are low ranking on the algorithm, which makes no sense considering the attention I get here.
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Hmmmmm. Tinder was pretty easy for white expats 2015-2016. I’ve heard tinder has changed their algorithm though. Don’t know any specifics.

Another caveat is the really traditional ones may take awhile to put out. I actually banged my first virgin while I was there. That one took a few months. I was exclusive with her for awhile before and after as she made for a phenomenal girlfriend.
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The lowdown on Ho Chi Minh/Vietnam - datasheet

Quote: (03-31-2019 12:00 PM)chrisblackbeard Wrote:  

Ok so anyone else here has
shitty numbers on tinder?

I'm getting 1-5 a day here... Pathetic numbers for a 20's muscular white guy in Asia. Thailand Philippines Indonesia, even halal Malaysia I get 15+ a day. Hell, I get 1-5 in America!

Who else has this or knows why?

they're likely all set on foreign dicks. probably have a solid rotation going even.

no paradise lasts forever.
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The lowdown on Ho Chi Minh/Vietnam - datasheet

PSA:

Wrap it up here guys. I've been a serial raw dogger since well...when i started banging. Never had an incident in the U.S, Europe or rest of Asia.

Got gonorrhea and genital warts here in the span of a couple months.

Sex education/health is basically non-existent here. Ie..I knew more about safe sex at 10 yrs old than most of the 20 yr old girls here. The STD prevalence is a lot higher than the stats show because most people aren't getting treated. I'll say this with the caveat that I have drunken/partied here more heavily than I used to so it's possible my immune system was run down.On the plus side, I was able to get full testing, treatment, meds,etc. for $110 usd. Would have been 5x that back home.

It saddens me to leave team raw dog but after pissing razor blades the last few days I'd say its for the best.
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Way she goes boys, way she fuckin goes..

The Vietnamese pussies I came across where all exquisite, I even ate one (something I rarely do) and it tasted wonderful. Maybe it was luck of the draw.

You can get burned anywhere, common sense applies. If you're fucking skanks your chances of getting burned go way up. I only raw dog, life's to short to put my cock into a wet pussy while it's wrapped in plastic. I avoid obvious skanks and proceed with caution when I suspect one. If it smells bad I don't fuck it, if she looks unhealthy I don't fuck it.

I also have a post bang washdown procedure, as soon as I nut I head to the shower, wash good with expensive charcoal soap, piss, then rub a mixture of diluted apple cider vinegar and coconut oil all over my junk.

I've been burned 3 times. Twice by Pinays and once by a Thai. They were all skanks and during a phase where I was fucking everything that came across my path with reckless abandon. The straw that broke the camel's back was when I had gonorrhea and got it in my eye (shaking after a piss and a pee drop flew into my eye, only time in my life that's happened, some kind of a sign from god), a couple days later I woke up with a swollen red eye. What a terrible experience, but I got rid of it in a week with antibiotic eye drops.

I don't have any good advice, the way we live is risky, but if I'm going to live this way, I'm going all the way.
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How the fuck did you get a drop of piss that high lol?

I'll admit that I've banged a few obvious skanks. I don't think that passing the skank test is a full proof though.

I don't want to deal with this again tbh. It's condoms or monogamy for me.
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The lowdown on Ho Chi Minh/Vietnam - datasheet

The condoms in Vietnam suck. Buy your favorite condoms before you leave.
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The lowdown on Ho Chi Minh/Vietnam - datasheet

Got gonorrea recently too here. It’s absolutely rife as majority don’t show symptoms. I barely noticed mine.
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The lowdown on Ho Chi Minh/Vietnam - datasheet

Quote: (04-02-2019 08:30 PM)Stay Wrote:  

Got gonorrea recently too here. It’s absolutely rife as majority don’t show symptoms. I barely noticed mine.
What were your symptoms?
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The lowdown on Ho Chi Minh/Vietnam - datasheet

Quote: (04-02-2019 09:22 PM)WombRaider Wrote:  

Quote: (04-02-2019 08:30 PM)Stay Wrote:  

Got gonorrea recently too here. It’s absolutely rife as majority don’t show symptoms. I barely noticed mine.
What were your symptoms?

Yea problem is symptoms rarely manifest in girls.

Pissing razor blades, and clear/yellow discharge are usually the go-to signs.

Not something you want lingering in your body. Can make you infertile.
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Maybe I noticed it earlier as I’m uncut. I give myself a dry after everypiss and I noticed slightest bit of wetness where should be dry and it caused slight itch. If your cut I imagine that wouldn’t be noticeable as it would dry straight away and by time you do notice it’s had time to develop. Mine definitely was beginning to hurt more as time went on.

For getting STD checks you should go to glink clinic, it’s the cheapest I’ve found . My friends gay Filipino roommate recommends them. Don’t know if being homo is a requirement. 200,000 vnd for each test.

The clinics aimed at expats charge like 4,000,000 for doing the same tests.
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Quote: (04-02-2019 03:03 AM)Trumpian Wrote:  

PSA:

Wrap it up here guys. I've been a serial raw dogger since well...when i started banging. Never had an incident in the U.S, Europe or rest of Asia.

Got gonorrhea and genital warts here in the span of a couple months.

Sex education/health is basically non-existent here. Ie..I knew more about safe sex at 10 yrs old than most of the 20 yr old girls here. The STD prevalence is a lot higher than the stats show because most people aren't getting treated. I'll say this with the caveat that I have drunken/partied here more heavily than I used to so it's possible my immune system was run down.On the plus side, I was able to get full testing, treatment, meds,etc. for $110 usd. Would have been 5x that back home.

It saddens me to leave team raw dog but after pissing razor blades the last few days I'd say its for the best.

Bear in mind that herpes and gonorrhoea are spread by saliva and so condoms are not necessarily a prophylactic.

In the big towns there are hand job massage parlours on every block and whilst a lot of those girls will act outraged at the prospect of being asked for sex, they will still give blowjobs for more cash, or lick the tip of a mans dick for a few seconds before going back to tugging him off as a way of not having to suck him off, and of course fuck every once in a while for serious cash.

Alot of those chicks give blow jobs to or get raw dogged by the men whose families own the places, who are not models of sexual health themselves.

Lots and lots of young and old men in each neighbourhood passing through those places.

All they have to do is snog and finger bash their wives and virginal girlfriends when they get home afterwards and hey presto.. the herp and gonorrhoea spreads throughout the entire neighbourhood.

Short of celibacy or enforced testing and treatment for the young cock carousel riders in the cities and the remorseless chauvinistic men swooping in from abroad Im not sure how one can protect oneself against these illnesses.
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Quote: (04-02-2019 10:58 AM)DanxBeToGawd Wrote:  

The condoms in Vietnam suck. Buy your favorite condoms before you leave.

The Durex ones are fine. The cheap Japanese brand sucks though.
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Bit of a delay writing this up -- was in Hanoi and Cat Ba island during February. This won't be the most exciting, action-packed report like my Medellin, Barcelona and Bangkok reports, but in the interest of having all kinds of data points on the forum I'm doing a write-up anyway.

Since I neglected to do much research before buying my plane tickets, it turned out that I was in Hanoi during the entire week of Tet. Ironically, this is going to sting me again later this month because I booked a ticket to Jakarta only a week and a half before Ramadan!

Lesson: Always research the major holidays of that country before planning a trip.

Definitely would not recommend visiting during Tet unless you already know people there who you would celebrate with. Being on your own, it's going to be pretty boring since a big portion of city residents leave to visit their families in the countryside.

Based on that, I only had 1 decent night out in Hanoi. Walked around in the north-lake bar-street area, and ended up paying a small cover to get in to the 1900 Club since it was quite packed. This is the kind of SEA club where having a table would be better than rolling solo, despite this I attempted to chat up a few girls who came to the main bar, unfortunately I got zero traction. There were TONS of backpackers in the north lake area (and the Old Quarter in general), so foreigner value is basically zero to negative at nightlife venues in this area. In fact, at "Tom's Bar" (mentioned a lot online) I saw a guy spam approaching, which as we know is never good...

Next I went to Cat Ba island for a couple weeks, inspired by an old post by Beyond Borders and reading about the rock climbing scene there (it's like Railay Beach in Thailand before it got super popular).

Was a very chill island, and during low season in February it was insanely cheap. I was paying $11 per night for my room, which comically had the biggest bed I had ever seen in it... It was like somehow they had lashed together TWO king size beds side-by-side into one bed. Would have been great for an orgy, sadly I didn't manage to arrange one [Image: lol.gif]

Got a ton of work done there and did some good climbing. Game-wise, there is a pretty decent (but incredibly small) night scene there on the weekends. Imagine a core group of expats who all know each other (so don't make enemies), combined with an ever-rotating group of tourists who come in for a few days at a time. In terms of Vietnamese, I only saw local men participating in the nightlife, no women.

Venue-wise, I went to the bar/"club" above the "Big Man Restaurant", incorrectly labeled on Google as "The Good Bar" ( https://goo.gl/maps/eutzeRtLFbs ). People went pretty hard there and I actually got quite wasted (the drinks were strong, there was weed, etc).

Backing up a bit, that morning I was having breakfast at my hotel (which also has hostel rooms) and randomly struck up a conversation with two cute european backpacker girls (Germany + Netherlands, 6.5 + 7). The 3 of us essentially spent the day together, doing some hikes, having lunch and then all went out that night to the Big Man Club.

Unfortunately I didn't do a great job gaming since I got turned down at the end of the night when I invited the dutch girl to my room, but there's definitely good potential for day gaming tourists and then closing during the night while partying. Of course, being tourists the two of them left the following day :/

Overall it was a good trip, but next time I'm in Vietnam I am definitely checking out Saigon instead of Hanoi.
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Looking to go out in HCMC tonight. Asian American in 30s, prefer nice lounges/rooftop bars/top clubs, wouldn’t mind splitting a table. Medium level game. Two short stays in hcmc so don’t know the scene too much here. PM me if you’re interested in going out tonight.
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Hey ya'll, I'm in Saigon until the 18th, shoot me a PM if anyone wants to chill and go out.

American, 29yo, been living in BKK for a few years, first time here in VN.

Nightgame is better for me as I'm working throughout the day.
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Pm
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Quote: (04-03-2019 12:00 AM)Stay Wrote:  

Maybe I noticed it earlier as I’m uncut. I give myself a dry after everypiss and I noticed slightest bit of wetness where should be dry and it caused slight itch. If your cut I imagine that wouldn’t be noticeable as it would dry straight away and by time you do notice it’s had time to develop. Mine definitely was beginning to hurt more as time went on.

For getting STD checks you should go to glink clinic, it’s the cheapest I’ve found . My friends gay Filipino roommate recommends them. Don’t know if being homo is a requirement. 200,000 vnd for each test.

The clinics aimed at expats charge like 4,000,000 for doing the same tests.

Those fucking prejudiced cunts. Fuck them.

Took your recommendation and went to get tested.

I emailed them and arranged an appointment. Los of Zalo chats. Lots of heart reactions to my bog standard replies. Being tall and blond is obviously a thing.

Fine..
Just give me the tests.

So I got there and when I got past all the pointy shoes and men wearing perfume and non stop fuck me looks I sat down with the doctor.

All they wanted to talk about was HIV. H-I-V.. H-I-Fucking-V..
The dr is going on to me 200,000 VND for consultation and 400,000 for HIV test.

I said "to be honest my work are going to test me for HIV and Hepatitis in the next 2 months.. I don't need testing for that. I would like testing for herp and gonorrhoea and chlamydia.."

"But surely.. you are scared of HIV...?"

Ummm, not really?

"But you wrote us that you're scared..! and H-I-V!!.. and H-I-Veee!!"

No.

Got my phone out.

"See, here's where you messaged ME about HIV"
" and here's where you messaged ME AGAIN about HIV" and I told you it wasn't a concern but..
"here's where you tried to put HIV in the conversation again."

So...

((((HIV))))...

I'm not very good at acting camp or "light on my feet" but I didn't expect that I would have to.

Cheapest testing in Saigon, there's got to be funding from someone to explain that.

After I hadn't shown enough concern about (((HIV))) they kept me sitting there for an hour whilst they went back and forth between themselves.

Trying to be a Good Samaritan and find out if I had any STI's without knowing it and get them treated instead of inadvertently passing them on.



So much back and forth about fuck all.

Dr refusing to consult, test me or prescribe.

Eventually he does…

he prescribes that if I am concerned I might have contracted Gonnarheoa Chlamydia, the Herp and want to check responsibly then..
My underpants must be infected.



So I am to boil my underwear and then soak them in some kind of Bleach..

Holds up phone. “This one!” “It stink! Okay..! It stink! It stink!”



Then he prescribes an antibiotic that Western medical friends have since warned me not to touch..
With the advice “It will turn piss blue.. but don’t worry” ==== 

I shit you not.



If the night walkers could have sent a snow blizzard to expel me from that place it would have been less frosty than the one those bitches sent out from their narrowed eyes and their sucked in cheeks as I left.

((H I V)) ..

Pay the extra 400 000 or out yourself as a non-fruit.



Kind of resent the 200 000 VND fee that they charged for that witch doctor consultation and study in cattiness.

And these guys are getting it all cheaper because of their “special” status.
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Girls here use Badoo mostly not tinder. Or Zalo even to find people nearby.
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Quote: (05-10-2019 07:57 AM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  

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((H I V)) ..

Pay the extra 400 000 or out yourself as a non-fruit.



Kind of resent the 200 000 VND fee that they charged for that witch doctor consultation and study in cattiness.

And these guys are getting it all cheaper because of their “special” status.

I see HIV/AIDS posters all over the place. They even have them on the public schools. The gay stuff is usually tied to IMF or World Bank loans. Or closer relations to the US.

Lots of women are worried about HIV because of all the posters. It's usually the only STD the average college girl knows about. Kind of annoying.
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Tinder got really shitty for a while for me but since I deleted account, made brand new one, put up the best pics I had (can’t be understated), was picky and responded to all matches quantity and quality of matches has gone up.

It’s actually motivated me to sort my shit out. 18-19 year olds seem a waste unless you have unlimited swipes I have filtered them out. I don’t think they’re all that serious about meets in general. There is tonnes of them and I match fuck all, I’m 27. I match a shitload with 24-28 year olds a good portion gym type chicks.

A decent side effect of being pickier with matches is i can actually be fucked messaging them now.
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