[AntiTrace]

Long post. Important stuff is at the bottom, the rest just explains the night out in a more detail. My adventure in answering the "when to suit up" question. Although we all know the answer is "always".


I went out last night with my girlfriend suited up in a light grey 3 piece, pocket square, and my trusty flask.

Place 1: Upper scale restaurant with a less formal bar upstairs. Our bill was about $120 for about 4 drinks, single 12 oz. filet mignon, and a crab cake appetizer.

We were upstairs close to the bar but seated at a table to eat. A group of three milfs came in and sat at the bar, a blonde about late 30s eye fucked the shit out of me. I held eye contact for about three seconds before smirking and looking back to my girlfriend. Another older woman, early 40s sitting across us did the same. A group of three asians were sitting on a couch in the corner, one was stealing glances all night. Im still curious what they were doing there, they were sitting when we got there and still sitting when we left, not a single drink or plate of food.

A buddy and his girlfriend showed up to meet us, we had to move our table so we could sit 4 and this put us away from the bar. His girlfriend was blown away by the suit and kept telling me how good I looked. We let the girls talk while we talked about an idea to ride the length of our state of dirt bikes during the summer. Finally the younger crowd started to show up. Not real eventful because we were hidden from the bar where everyone was hanging out. There was a sexy little brunette that posted up in a corner so she could see us. She was talking to what im assuming was her boyfriend, while stealing glances at our table. Thats about the time we tabbed out and bounced.

Place 2: Middle class bar. Kind of a sports bar/college bar combo. Their target market was obviously early to mid 20s. There was a huge hipster crowd, it annoyed the shit of me.

Walked straight in, past the dude that was carding everyone, not an issue. The bar was packed so I lead our group through the crowd and found an empty table in the middle of the bar. Definitely got some strange looks. Waitress came up and took our drinks, commented on the suit and felt the material. She was impressed when I told her it was foreign made (400 dollar slim fit Express suit made in china haha). My group was ripping tequila shots, I declined since it was a new venue and I was getting some weird looks, wanted be more sober than any guy who would try to fight me as the night went on. My buddy is a tank though, I was glad to have some extra muscle in case someone got froggy.

We headed off to a corner of the bar to play shuffleboard. It was a blast, but pretty uneventful. I was posted up at one end, directly next a table of four hipsters. Two guys and two girls, the girls having their back to me. The guys were obviously talking about me. They were whispering at each other, laughing, and looking at me. I didn't care, the one kid had a beanie on his head that looked like a used condom so I was laughing just as much as him as he was at me. I did start to get annoyed when he starting pointing at me while talking. I went up to the table, slapped him hard on the back like an old friend and went with the "didn't we go to high school together?" routine on him. He verbally retreated real fast, so I talked to the two girls for a couple minutes with my back completely turned to him, isolating him from the conversation. The other guy turned out to actually be pretty cool. Then I went to shuffleboard and never caught the guy talking shit or pointing again.

Thats about it for this bar. Flirty waitress (but they always are), shutting down that dude and gaming his girl, and the normal eye fucking that occurs when suited up. So we bounced to place 3.

Place 3 - Dive of a dive bar. The girls said they didn't want to go because they were scared I would get stabbed. I told them ive seen enough movies to know that the perp would stab me in the chest, hitting me concealed flask which would save my life. So everything would be fine.

This place reminded me of a frat house. It was two big rooms, one serving as a dance floor, the other serving as the bar. Apparently this was the "local" hangout. And it reeked of hipsters and "I only listen to Eminem while rocking my Air Force Ones" white kids. I can see why the thought I might get stabbed. But four cops were posted up in various spots. Yes you read that right, FOUR uniformed police officers INSIDE the club. I went to the bar to get a drink. The bartender was a sexy little inked up blonde with the tightest little turdcutter I saw all night. She was giving me the cold shoulder though. Oh well, you can't win them all.

I was posted up at the bar solo while my group was in the other room. Got opened by a wildebeest that was sitting next me. God what a trainwreck that girls face was. She looked like she take a set of pioneer tools to the face. I moved away, I wanted to chip some of the ice off the bartenders attitude. Got opened by a single girl ordering a drink. Blah blah drunk girl talk blah blah. I tuned out the second she started talking about the occupy movement and talking about how much she hates the evil suit-wearing bankers. I thought this was hilarious, as she was leaning in and twirling her hair talking about much she hated the "suits" that run America.

I went back to my group, then the second run up at the bar was the highlight of my night. Just the sheer stupidity that chicks run amazes me sometimes. So I order a drink, chip a little of the ice of the bartender, and post up solo at the bar again. A girl and her boyfriend comes up. The girl opens with the question I knew was coming all night:

"Why are you wearing a suit?"
"Im the evil top 1% that is here to steal all your poorly invested money" - me
"Did you just get off work?"
"I dont have a job" - me

couples minutes of fluff talk. At this point she has moved next to me and has her back turned to her boyfriend as he buys her drinks. He sits there like a sheep and sips his drink as we talk. His girlfriend never introduces him once. I would never tolerate a move like that from my girl. Im getting a good vibe.

"So what do you actually do then"
"I told you im unemployed" - me
"Seriously? did you just lose your job or something? if your broke you cant afford suits"
"No im actually starting a business and was meeting a partner at Place 1, he wanted to come here for some drinks" - me
"oh thats so cool, whats your business"

I explain my business which is social media related and she drops this bombshell on me

"Oh do you know Mark?"
"Mark who" - me
"Zuckerburg"
"The founder of facebook? I know of him, I don't know him personally" - me
"I do"
"You know Mark Zuckerburg? The Mark Zuckerburg?" - me
"Yeah hes a pretty good friend actually, I know a lot of famous people"
"You looked like you just robbed a salvation army, the only famous person I bet you know is the Wal-Mart smiley face"

And I laughed and walked back to my group. Danced a bit with my girl. A sexy ass Scandinavian chick kept running into me. I wanted her. But I couldn't have her.

We then walked home, girlfriend puked, and I put on a movie and passed out. fun night.

Reflections:

Suit:

- First time rocking a three piece. I liked the vest because it was cold outside, but it did feel a bit too much at times.

- Tie: classic full windsor. Anyone got any ideas when different knots would work better? I will look into this.

-Pocket square: I know G is dead set on this and I agree. I rocked the simple square fold, peaking out of the pocket slightly. It made the suit come together when I put it in. I got approached solely because of it once. And I had another lizard come up and start trying fold it into a point, cant argue with lizard initiated kino.

- Cuff Links: I have personalized silver cuff links given as a present. Got a few comments but nothing outrageous. I do like them and will wear them when I get the chance, but that is a personal preference.

- Flask: Again it is a silver personalized flask given as part of the same present. Highly recommend rocking a flask. You will get attention when your drink appears to be too weak, and you pull out your flask and top it off, and if the bartender sees it your next drink will be stronger. It also worked good because Place 3 stopped serving alcohol at 12:30, I have no clue why. And you always have some after party liquor handy when you a pull a girl back.

- Smoking: I dont smoke. I smoke sometimes when I drink. I didn't this time. But I can see the benefits and walking outside near a group of girls smoking, busting our your zippo and lighting up.

Venues:

Place 1: Suit killed the upper class venue. Cougars and young girls alike eye fucking me all night.

Place 2: Suit not as a good as an idea. You can rock it but you need to be comfortable in it, as you are going to get some haters. Just remember that those haters girlfriends are stealing glances when their boyfriend drops his guard. I would be wary of rolling dolo unless you know the venue. That one guy I disarmed could have very easily gone the other way.

Place 3: Suit killed it here. Surprisingly. Maybe it was the contrast of the suit and the place being such a shitty dive bar. I thought It was going to be downhill after place 2. And I didn't feel in danger at all, even though I was solo much of the night here. It wasn't because of the cops either, I just didnt sense a hater vibe.

Moral:

Dont be afraid to suit up anywhere. If your nervous about hitting some new venues and its your first time rocking a suit. Bring a girl or a friend along. When you are seen with people that don't think it is weird for your be to suited up, no one will think otherwise.

You are different. Be prepared. Haters will hate. Girls will eye fuck you. You may get special treatment. Your low-key and manly, don't flash money like your dying to show off that wad you just pulled from the ATM. Don't act like a douchebag thinking your better than everyone else. Do spit game.

Two dudes rocking suits would kill it. Get a wing and suit his ass up. Then roll in the strange.

[Smitty]

(03-04-2012 10:34 AM)AntiTrace Wrote:  

My adventure in answering the "when to suit up" question. Although we all know the answer is "always".

+1 for all the effort put into your post.

But I do disagree with the above statement. A suit isn't always the answer.

Nice work.

[thegmanifesto]

AntiTrace -

Excellent case study.

I think your finding are similar to mine.

Suited Down works great with beautiful girls in high end spots - this is where I roll.

Suited Down works ok in the middle spots. This is where average America hangs out - f*ck these places. I have no interest.

Suited Down works great in low-end spots. - I am comfortable here as well.

Quote:

But I can see the benefits and walking outside near a group of girls smoking, busting our your zippo and lighting up.

Yeah. I have been talking about this for ages. It is one of the most rock solid foundational Game moves you can do.

What City/State was this where there were Cops in the club?

(03-04-2012 10:42 AM)Smitty Wrote:  

(03-04-2012 10:34 AM)AntiTrace Wrote:  

My adventure in answering the "when to suit up" question. Although we all know the answer is "always".

+1 for all the effort put into your post.

But I do disagree with the above statement. A suit isn't always the answer.

Have you tried it in every scenario multiple (100's) of times?

What were your findings?

[WestIndianArchie]

(03-04-2012 10:34 AM)AntiTrace Wrote:  

- Tie: classic full windsor. Anyone got any ideas when different knots would work better? I will look into this.

It depends on your shirt. Big/spread/cutaway collars require big knots. Typical point collars should get a smaller knot.

I usually go with a half-windsor.


There's also the 4 in Hand



and the double 4 in hand, which you wrap the tie around twice instead of once.

Anything else (there are like 30+ ways to tie a tie) is just showing off. "ooh look @ my Shelby"

As far as the suiting up movement goes, do it! i've been suited up for 6 years now, and even if you live in a world of suits, doing it right still sets you apart from the slobs who just buy one cause they have to wear it.

Suit does 2 things

There's the external aspect of it, people see you and treat you better.

But there's the internal aspect of it, which builds your confidence when you've got your suit looking right.

WIA

[AntiTrace]

(03-04-2012 11:15 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

Suit does 2 things

There's the external aspect of it, people see you and treat you better.

But there's the internal aspect of it, which builds your confidence when you've got your suit looking right.

WIA

Yeah I didn't get carded once all night. Which is unusual given the venues I went (especially place 3 crawling with the fuzz) and that I do look young.

The internal part is where I think going suited up shines. You know you look good and the your are getting the looks to prove it. Feeling ultra confident is a result of that. I get that feeling once in a while when not suited up, but it happens all the time when I suit up.

Thanks for the tie info. I am new to being suited up. It all started at my sister's wedding about 6 months ago when I rocked a tux all night, there was no looking back after that. Its been a hell of an adventure so far, and i know I have just hit the tip of the iceberg

[AntiTrace]

(03-04-2012 11:11 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

What City/State was this where there were Cops in the club?

Smaller city in New England. Southern NH about an hour north of Boston. It was the only time I have ever seen cops posted inside a club. I have always seen them lingering around outside, but I was shocked to see four uniformed cops in the joint. I guess it is a pretty bad place where shit goes down on the reg.

And no I haven't done extensive field testing in suited up. Ive got about 6 months of experience, but my logistics are fucked and Ive probably rolled suited at night only about 10 times. This is the result of my findings, mainly with last night being the mission of hitting three completely different environments. I saw a lot of posts when I was browsing looking for some info about wanting to rock suits but not having an "excuse" to do it. Im hitting up a military ball next month, and possibly a charity event/fundraiser later this month.

[Roosh]

AntiTrace: Funny report... I dug the humor.

[Atlantic]

(03-04-2012 10:34 AM)AntiTrace Wrote:  

I went back to my group, then the second run up at the bar was the highlight of my night. Just the sheer stupidity that chicks run amazes me sometimes. So I order a drink, chip a little of the ice of the bartender, and post up solo at the bar again. A girl and her boyfriend comes up. The girl opens with the question I knew was coming all night:

"Why are you wearing a suit?"
"Im the evil top 1% that is here to steal all your poorly invested money" - me
"Did you just get off work?"
"I dont have a job" - me

couples minutes of fluff talk. At this point she has moved next to me and has her back turned to her boyfriend as he buys her drinks. He sits there like a sheep and sips his drink as we talk. His girlfriend never introduces him once. I would never tolerate a move like that from my girl. Im getting a good vibe.

Hahaha Very well written post man. That style of banter is where it is at. I love how the chump boyfriend doesn't even know how to cope with this. Average guys don't know how to cope when you start spitting tight game at girls around them. Most just go into quiet spectator mode.

Seems like the worse the place the most hostile the guys will be towards good game and busting the suit. Makes sense since these guys are the most likely to have poor self image and can't cope with the idea of bettering themselves. A well dressed guy doing well with the ladies is going to cause a defensive reaction which turns into hatred towards someone who has their shit together.

Overall tight post and good game.

[thegmanifesto]

(03-04-2012 11:41 AM)AntiTrace Wrote:  

(03-04-2012 11:11 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

What City/State was this where there were Cops in the club?

Smaller city in New England. Southern NH about an hour north of Boston. It was the only time I have ever seen cops posted inside a club. I have always seen them lingering around outside, but I was shocked to see four uniformed cops in the joint. I guess it is a pretty bad place where shit goes down on the reg.

And no I haven't done extensive field testing in suited up. Ive got about 6 months of experience, but my logistics are fucked and Ive probably rolled suited at night only about 10 times. This is the result of my findings, mainly with last night being the mission of hitting three completely different environments. I saw a lot of posts when I was browsing looking for some info about wanting to rock suits but not having an "excuse" to do it. Im hitting up a military ball next month, and possibly a charity event/fundraiser later this month.

That is impressive that this went down in a smaller city.

I was thinking when I was reading this of a big city or medium.

Also, that was some good agile Game banter you were spitting.

[dickbutt]

'I went up to the table, slapped him hard on the back like an old friend and went with the "didn't we go to high school together?" routine on him.'

Hey can you elaborate on this routine

[AntiTrace]

(03-04-2012 11:27 PM)dickbutt Wrote:  

'I went up to the table, slapped him hard on the back like an old friend and went with the "didn't we go to high school together?" routine on him.'

Hey can you elaborate on this routine

I slapped him hard on the back. Think of an seeing an old friend and giving him a friendly slap on the back, I just did it a bit harder while smiling and appearing friendly. Then I told him that I was sure we went to high school together. Launched into a fake story about the "crazy science teacher" that gave me detention and started engaging the group.

What I was doing was showing him that I was aware of what he was doing, that it didn't piss me off, and basically challenging him to see it my face or shut the fuck up. He choose the latter.

Not really a routine per se.

[michelin]

thanks for the post. Showing off in a suit works, and yes haters will hate, even if my suit was bought ON SALE for a price inferior to the crappy sweaters others wear. Just do it.

[Skyhigh]

Why did your account sound to me like you are some kind of target or you are picking fights for no reason. It's no coincidence that the same people are always the ones who get into fights at bars.

[thegmanifesto]

(03-08-2012 02:48 PM)Skyhigh Wrote:  

Why did your account sound to me like you are some kind of target or you are picking fights for no reason. It's no coincidence that the same people are always the ones who get into fights at bars.

I don't think he was picking fights.

He was however "shaking things up" with the way he was dressed in different environments.

Doing this will get you more attention, sometimes good, sometimes bad.

Think of the reverse: You walk into a high end restaurant dressed like a slob?

Same thing.

[durangotang]

Thanks for the great write up. I would like to have some custom suits made, but not until I am in proper fighting shape. I've got some Gucci loafers waiting (I'd like to give G the credit for that but they were a gift from before I ever read him).

I find it interesting that the suit works in an upper class and lower class environment the best, which is how G always rolls, but not in a middle class environment. The dominant emotion of the middle class in fear, so that makes sense. Fear of not doing as well as someone else, fear of losing everything, fear of not fitting in, etc. Fuck middle of the road joints, I am sure they are filled with boring people as well. I wouldn't doubt that is where you would get the most hate, and probably the most fights.

It is a sad thing really that our society is so degraded that we actually get nervous and write up reactions about dressing with class and style. Below is a picture of a breadline in the 1930's. Now remember these were men who couldn't afford food, yet look at the self respect they demonstrated in how they carried themselves - each one suited up:



Here's another:

[MikeCF]

When you dress nice or stand out, people will think - or say, "Who the fuck does this guy think he is?"

That makes guys hate you and women love you.

To use the "evolutionary psychology" so many of you guys like: Going suited down is costly signalling.

I don't wear suits, but wear brightly colored clothing. In a sea of men wearing blue, grey, and navy, my color pops. When I give fashion advice on an anonymous forums, guys assume I'm black.

I've heard lots of people talking shit behind my back. "LOOK AT THIS GUY!"

Fortunately I look like a psychopath, so when I turn around, they aren't interested in saying anything to me.

But the risks associated with standing out are real. Be prepared for some serious hate.

[AntiTrace]

(03-08-2012 02:48 PM)Skyhigh Wrote:  

Why did your account sound to me like you are some kind of target or you are picking fights for no reason. It's no coincidence that the same people are always the ones who get into fights at bars.

The only part of that night that was anything close to hostile was the middle class bar. Which is why I didn't slam shots. I wanted to be soberish to 1.) avoid fights (think I want blood all my suit?) and 2.) be ready to fight if needed.

The only part where you could misconstrue me as picking a fight was when I confronted the used condom sporting hipster. I dont mind people talking about me or laughing at me, but I will not stand idly by and let a dude openly point at me in an insolent manner.

MikeCF Wrote:

When you dress nice or stand out, people will think - or say, "Who the fuck does this guy think he is?"

That makes guys hate you and women love you.

To use the "evolutionary psychology" so many of you guys like: Going suited down is costly signalling.

Yeah it works for anything out of the ordinary. The more out of the ordinary the stronger the effect. I am sure there is a point where it gets to diminishing returns, which is where the typical PUA peacocking idea comes in. Like Strauss in his book where he wears a scrolling LED sign around his neck.

[Frank Valentine]

(03-04-2012 11:41 AM)AntiTrace Wrote:  

(03-04-2012 11:11 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

What City/State was this where there were Cops in the club?

Smaller city in New England. Southern NH about an hour north of Boston. It was the only time I have ever seen cops posted inside a club. I have always seen them lingering around outside, but I was shocked to see four uniformed cops in the joint. I guess it is a pretty bad place where shit goes down on the reg.

And no I haven't done extensive field testing in suited up. Ive got about 6 months of experience, but my logistics are fucked and Ive probably rolled suited at night only about 10 times. This is the result of my findings, mainly with last night being the mission of hitting three completely different environments. I saw a lot of posts when I was browsing looking for some info about wanting to rock suits but not havi
ng an "excuse" to do it. Im hitting up a military ball next month, and possibly a charity event/fundraiser later this month.

Ha, every bar and club I go to in Mass has at least one cop. I've seen them up in NH in Nassua too.

[speakeasy]

Hey G,

Can you do a breakdown for a suit newbie? If you are getting your first and only suit, what are some must have features to look for? Do you think it's better to go with a solid color tie or pattern? And do you match the pocket square with the shirt or the tie?

[Timoteo]

(03-08-2012 02:53 PM)durangotang Wrote:  

Thanks for the great write up. I would like to have some custom suits made, but not until I am in proper fighting shape. I've got some Gucci loafers waiting (I'd like to give G the credit for that but they were a gift from before I ever read him).

I find it interesting that the suit works in an upper class and lower class environment the best, which is how G always rolls, but not in a middle class environment. The dominant emotion of the middle class in fear, so that makes sense. Fear of not doing as well as someone else, fear of losing everything, fear of not fitting in, etc. Fuck middle of the road joints, I am sure they are filled with boring people as well. I wouldn't doubt that is where you would get the most hate, and probably the most fights.

It is a sad thing really that our society is so degraded that we actually get nervous and write up reactions about dressing with class and style. Below is a picture of a breadline in the 1930's. Now remember these were men who couldn't afford food, yet look at the self respect they demonstrated in how they carried themselves - each one suited up:



Here's another:

There was a time when there were no such things as casual clothes, or definitely not as casual as now. At that time, a casual shirt was a button-up, collared SHORT SLEEVE shirt! You still wore slacks and hard leather shoes. I look at family pics of my dad from when I was young, and even before I was born. He was always dressed much like the men in the pictures. He wore fedoras also. Even for a casual get-together at a friend's house, all the guys were dressed, and the women in dresses. Throughout time, fashion is one of those things that changes drastically. It's easy to bemoan the change, but it also provides the opportunity for us to stand out. Now, even the workplace, the one place where you HAD to dress, has relaxed the standard. It's just another opportunity for the more daring man to make a mark.

[All or Nothing]

(03-11-2012 04:28 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Hey G,

Can you do a breakdown for a suit newbie? If you are getting your first and only suit, what are some must have features to look for? Do you think it's better to go with a solid color tie or pattern? And do you match the pocket square with the shirt or the tie?

I have actually been looking into this a lot recently. In my search I stumbled upon this site: http://www.styleforum.net/. I have been doing a lot of searches to try and pinpoint what is the best way to go to get a decent/nice suit for under 700$'s. These guys seem to have a wide variety of knowledge when it comes to style and this site is frequented by a variety of known brands that sell clothes and high-end tailors.

Here is the gist of the information that I have absorbed so far. I have sadly found that you get what you pay for. In order to get a decent suit it's going to almost always cost 1000$'s plus. A good suit almost always costs ~2000$'s for one that is made to measure/off the rack. This means that the pieces of the suit are stitched together, the placement of all the pieces are on spot, it is made out of quality material, and it is fully canvassed. Buying a made to measure is pointless if it costs over 3000$'s because beyond that price point you can get a bespoke suit. A bespoke suit is the highest quality of suit you can get. It is a suit that is completely handmade from beginning to end for you. It is a laborious process that lasts around 1-2 months where you go to the tailor that is making your suit to get remeasured 2-3 times to make sure that as the suit is being made, it will fit you perfectly. Bespoke suits cost from 3500$'s to 8500$'s.

That's the basics. I have been looking at sub-700$ stuff and I still haven't found a decent place to buy suits. Based on reviews from that site: Indochino/suitsupply are consistently bad. Recently I've been looking at the JCrew Ludlow suit, http://suityourself.com/ and http://moderntailor.com/. I'm thinking over summer I'm going to look at some highend outlet stores and ask around.

Either way, I suggest checking out the styleforum because it has a lot of information on this stuff and if worse comes to worse, you can ask some guys on there what is the best route to go. Also, just found this link: http://www.gq.com/style/wear-it-now/2010...2#slide=1.

[AntiTrace]

you can easily grab sub $500 suits. We have already proven that a chickenhead cant tell the difference between a $3000 suit and a $500 suit, its all in the fit. And the for the off the rack suits you have to find a brand that fits you. I just picked up a $300 suit, It was on the 50% off rack but wasn't supposed to be there. I walked by and noticed it, never passing up a good deal I had to walk in and grab it. Wore it out and got great responses. Ill get it to the tailors next week and it will be even better then.

There's no way in hell im paying 1000 bucks for a suit right now. Ill save my custom suit ventures for later in life (im 25 and wearing a suit is not part of my job in the littlest way, so I only use them when I go out) when I have a solid understanding of exactly what I want in a suit. And I learn a little bit every suit I buy, and every time I rock it. Hell six months ago I couldn't even tell you what my inseam or waist was, now im getting annoying when employees don't understand what I mean when I ask for rolled pocket squares.

But the accessories that go along with a suit can get you if your not careful. Nice ties, pocket squares, cuff links, collared shirts, shoes, flasks, steamers (not the Cleveland type), dry cleaning, etc. Looking good takes money

[booshala]

Nice thread, Antitrace. I like the academic mindset and the conversational points you threw in.

Took my new $160 light grey Zara suit on the town last Thursday for a date. Ironically, the Hermes tie cost twice that much and the Canali pocket square was 2/3 of the suit price. I bought the suit in NYC the week before because I forgot to bring along formal clothing for a wedding and only did some emergency tailoring of length only. It's essentially a polyester leisure suit, but it somehow fits my weird proportions almost perfectly, which is really weird as I am a huge suit snob.

First time ever I was getting eye-fucked by white girls (I'm Asian). From the hostess at the restaurant we ate at, to two random girls at the alcoholic boba tea spot we went to after bar hopping, I was getting stares when my date wouldn't be looking or in the bathroom. Unfortunately, I'm not all that attracted to blondes, but I was very impressed by the reactions I was getting. Also great usage of subterfuge as we were hopping along in the financial district around 7pm-11, which could very well explain the presence of the suit.

It was all pretty high end that night, but even in downtown LA, I'm almost 100% convinced that fully suited up is the way to go out.

[AntiTrace]

Dude awesome! Old thread I completely forgot about.

a couple weeks ago I picked up a chick from a major casino area (not vegas) when I was suited up. It was a cheap $400 white suit, black t shirt, black and white spotted pocket square, superman belt bucket.

I remember a bit back we were having a conversation on how young guys can rock suits and not be pegged as the typical banker guy. I think I figured it out, I may be 27 but I look like im about 19 (I get carded almost everywhere). I grew my hair out and mohawk it when I go out. Combine that with a cool random ass belt buckle, my superman one kills it, and now your a classy mysterious guy that doesn't give a fuck about social norms.

Just a theory, but it got my laid with a sexy ass 105lb chick. I'd give her and 8, maybe 8.5 if she had some bigger tits. I got a picture of it somewhere i meant to post, let me see...

[AntiTrace]

   


found it

thats not staged, thats how her heels and thong ended up. saw this photo perfect setup as she was in the bathroom. Had to scribble the "rvf certified" real fast haha

we actually made three iphone videos that night. anyone in the towers across from us got a good show as we fucked on the balcony