[WanderingSoul]

Hey guys,

I keep hearing a lot about how Roissy's stuff from a couple of years ago (before he handed the blog over?) is some of the best out there. I checked out his site: http://heartiste.wordpress.com/ and almost all of the articles under "Top Posts" are more recent. I've been checking out some stuff back in 08/09, but there is just so many posts on there I am having trouble sorting through it all. I was hoping some of his fans could post some of their favorite articles they have saved to help me from having to sift through years and years worth of posts?

Thanks all.

P.S. Here is one I just read that is short and sweet that everyone can implement: http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2008/10/1...-an-alpha/

[Deluge]

Roissy was from Washington D.C, the similarity of his name and Roosh's had me wondering about somethings...

Heartiste said he was living in St. Paul, Minnesota.

Make of that what you will, I suspect that is the cause of the name change.

[Brian]

I think its the same person. His true identity got called out not too long ago, my guess is that somehow spurred the change.

[Kickb]

There are so many articles to mine through. I would post links but im on my phone. I would break it down by category. Just click the game link and start at the back. Just do that for all categories that are of interest to you. If i get on tomorrow Ill post some good ones.

You should do the same on roosh's main site. My favorite posts of his are between 2007(or 2008) and late 2010. The recent stuff is good but he really posted some gems back then.

[WanderingSoul]

(01-19-2012 11:40 PM)Brian Wrote:  

I think its the same person. His true identity got called out not too long ago, my guess is that somehow spurred the change.

Do you have any articles that you would suggest?

[Gmac]

(01-19-2012 11:05 PM)P Dog Wrote:  

Roissy was from Washington D.C, the similarity of his name and Roosh's had me wondering about somethings...

Heartiste said he was living in St. Paul, Minnesota.

Make of that what you will, I suspect that is the cause of the name change.

You must have the facts confused. Roissy has always been in DC, where did this rumor come up?

[WanderingSoul]

(01-19-2012 11:51 PM)kickboxer Wrote:  

There are so many articles to mine through. I would post links but im on my phone. I would break it down by category. Just click the game link and start at the back. Just do that for all categories that are of interest to you. If i get on tomorrow Ill post some good ones.

You should do the same on roosh's main site. My favorite posts of his are between 2007(or 2008) and late 2010. The recent stuff is good but he really posted some gems back then.

Thanks bro, appreciate it.

[Deluge]

(01-20-2012 12:03 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

(01-19-2012 11:05 PM)P Dog Wrote:  

Roissy was from Washington D.C, the similarity of his name and Roosh's had me wondering about somethings...

Heartiste said he was living in St. Paul, Minnesota.

Make of that what you will, I suspect that is the cause of the name change.

You must have the facts confused. Roissy has always been in DC, where did this rumor come up?

Heartiste was complaining about Minnesota winters I believe.

[Baldwin81]

RioNomad,

As Kickboxer stated, there are so many articles worthy of your attention, but if I ever feel like I'm slipping I always come back to this one and it sets me right:

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/11/2...damentals/

[Brian]

He cranks out such quality articles so often i'd just go backwards starting at the current day

[theoak]

here are some that i have bookmarked. <10 posts so no links. change hxxp to http

hxxp://heartiste.wordpress.com/2007/08/28/female-rapists/
hxxp://heartiste.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/dread/
hxxp://heartiste.wordpress.com/2008/04/30/qualifying-her/
hxxp://heartiste.wordpress.com/2008/10/14/screening-girls/
hxxp://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/02/10/the-neg-as-opener/
hxxp://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011/02/01/cheap-and-easy-ways-to-raise-your-value-to-a-girl/
hxxp://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011/07/28/a-test-of-your-game-12/
hxxp://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011/08/23/the-fake-drink-opener/
hxxp://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011/08/25/can-i-see-myself-saying-that/
hxxp://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011/09/26/the-subtle-art-of-the-insidious-neg/
hxxp://heartiste.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/misconceptions-about-the-alpha-male/
hxxp://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/05/22/how-to-prey-on-womens-insecurities/
hxxp://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/07/02/reader-mailbag-marriage-independence-day-edition/
hxxp://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011/07/15/the-folly-before-the-fall/

[WesternCancer]

at the end of december i read through the entire archives, skipping those which didn't interest me. the game posts are spot on and so are the "reader mailbag" posts.

[WanderingSoul]

(01-20-2012 01:08 PM)theoak Wrote:  

here are some that i have bookmarked. <10 posts so no links. change hxxp to http

hxxp://heartiste.wordpress.com/2007/08/28/female-rapists/
hxxp://heartiste.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/dread/
hxxp://heartiste.wordpress.com/2008/04/30/qualifying-her/
hxxp://heartiste.wordpress.com/2008/10/14/screening-girls/
hxxp://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/02/10/the-neg-as-opener/
hxxp://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011/02/01/cheap-and-easy-ways-to-raise-your-value-to-a-girl/
hxxp://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011/07/28/a-test-of-your-game-12/
hxxp://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011/08/23/the-fake-drink-opener/
hxxp://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011/08/25/can-i-see-myself-saying-that/
hxxp://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011/09/26/the-subtle-art-of-the-insidious-neg/
hxxp://heartiste.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/misconceptions-about-the-alpha-male/
hxxp://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/05/22/how-to-prey-on-womens-insecurities/
hxxp://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/07/02/reader-mailbag-marriage-independence-day-edition/
hxxp://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011/07/15/the-folly-before-the-fall/

Awesome! Thanks bro. +1 from me.

[Samseau]

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/02/1...as-opener/

I have personally used the bad hair opener and gotten laid. It was the first time I ever tried it. Every woman I've used it on since, it has failed me.


By far and away, THE BEST routine ever posted on Roissy (I'm not sure I should share this):

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/06/0...a-routine/

Quote:

A while back on this blog I mentioned in passing that I had a comfort building routine I use which isn’t, as far as I’m aware, especially well-known in the seduction community. The routine was given to me by a friend. Its effectiveness is without doubt; of all the women I’ve charmed with the love test, my bang rate is 90%. For a long while it was my go-to comfort stage routine; I was on auto-pilot when I used it.

Since I’m feeling generous I will share it with everyone here. Virginal routines that haven’t yet gone mainstream are worth their words in gold, so get on your knees and kiss my triskelion ring for this gift I give you. All I ask is that you don’t use the routine on girls if you happen to be in DC, Soweto, Prague, Warsaw, Toronto, or the Australian outback. It’s bad form to cross the streams.

As with all psychological routines designed to elecit an emotionally bonding reaction in a girl and to demonstrate your perspicacity, the way to segue into the love test without sounding a false note is to say “I can tell you something about yourself with a simple game”. Most girls, as long as you have built attraction with them, will bite at this delicious bait.

If you are a girl reading this post who remains unviolated by my tremendous manhood, you may want to give yourself this test before reading the answers. Just read the italicized parts and cover up the answers underneath with your hand.

The Love Test

You will ask the girl a series of six questions within a story in which she is presented with two choices as an answer for each question. She must choose one or the other, and she has to go with her gut. Remind her to answer quickly and to avoid lingering over a choice. At the end of the test, you will tell her what her answers reveal about herself.

“You have a lover, a man who is everything to you. He lives apart from you, but within walking distance. One day you decide to visit him. You have two paths you can take to get to his home. One is a short but boring path that will get you there quickly. The other is a long but scenic path with many beautiful sites that will take longer. Which do you take?”

If she answers “short”, this means she falls in love quickly. She is passionate and impulsive.
If she answers “long”, this means she takes a while to fall in love. She is circumspect and enjoys the buildup to falling in love.

“Along the path you come across rose bushes. The roses come in two colors — red and white. You decide you want to pick some roses for your lover. You are allowed to pick twenty roses of any combination of red or white. How many red and how many white roses do you pick?”

Red roses symbolize selflessness. A woman who picks more red than white roses is a giver in a relationship.
White roses symbolize selfishness. A woman who picks more white than red roses is a taker in a relationship.
[Editor's note: You'd probably not be surprised how many DC women pick more white than red roses. This part of the test is a great screening mechanism for LTR material.]

“You arrive at your lover’s home and knock on the door. A family member opens the door. Do you ask to be let in so you can go to his room to see him, or do you ask the family member to bring him to the door?”

If she answers “ask to be let in”, she does not let arguments simmer in a relationship. She prefers having it out.
If she answers “bring him to the door”, she lets arguments slide and buries her anger. She avoids conflict and drama.

“You go up to his bedroom and he is not there. You want to leave the roses in his room. Do you leave them on his windowsill or on his bed?”

If she answers “windowsill”, she prefers more casual relationships where she doesn’t feel a need to see her lover very often.
If she answers “bed”, she prefers intense relationships where she sees her lover a lot.
[Editor's note: Windowsill girls are cheap dates.]

“Your lover returns and you two spend the night together making sweet sweet sex. You both fall asleep and in the morning you wake up first. You lean over to his side of the bed to see if he is awake. Is he awake or still sleeping?”

If she answers “awake”, she is the type of girl who will try to change her man into her image of the perfect boyfriend.
If she answers “asleep”, she loves her man just the way he is, flaws and all.

“It’s the end of the day and time for you to say goodbye to your lover and go home. As before, you are presented with two paths to get home — a long but scenic path and a short but boring path. Which path do you take?”

If she answers “long”, she takes a long time to fall out of love. Breakups are hard on her. She is given to nostalgia and reminiscence. She is a natural romantic.
If she answers “short”, she falls out of love quickly. Breakups are short, sharp affairs that she gets over in no time and with little handwringing. She is a natural slut.

***

I remember this one particularly aggro DC lawyer chick I ran the love test on. These were her answers:

long
all white
asked to be let in
windowsill
awake
short
I enjoyed making her wince with pain during anal sex.

I use this routine on just about every girl I have banged; for same night-lay's I consider this routine to be a requirement.

When it's just you and her sitting in a bar, or laying somewhere quiet, this routine is ridiculously effective. Generally this routine should be pulled out at the one-hour mark in a seduction. Girls eat this shit up. It also consumes 15-20 minutes, so it's perfect for just killing time until the bar closes or for building comfort. All-around LMR reducer.

You can even make up a back story of how your college girlfriend ran it on you from one of her Cosmo magazines.

[Moma]

hmm samseau - you really have my cogwheels turning with this one...

[soup]

(01-20-2012 01:23 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/02/1...as-opener/

I have personally used the bad hair opener and gotten laid. It was the first time I ever tried it. Every woman I've used it on since, it has failed me.


By far and away, THE BEST routine ever posted on Roissy (I'm not sure I should share this):

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/06/0...a-routine/

Quote:

A while back on this blog I mentioned in passing that I had a comfort building routine I use which isn’t, as far as I’m aware, especially well-known in the seduction community. The routine was given to me by a friend. Its effectiveness is without doubt; of all the women I’ve charmed with the love test, my bang rate is 90%. For a long while it was my go-to comfort stage routine; I was on auto-pilot when I used it.

Since I’m feeling generous I will share it with everyone here. Virginal routines that haven’t yet gone mainstream are worth their words in gold, so get on your knees and kiss my triskelion ring for this gift I give you. All I ask is that you don’t use the routine on girls if you happen to be in DC, Soweto, Prague, Warsaw, Toronto, or the Australian outback. It’s bad form to cross the streams.

As with all psychological routines designed to elecit an emotionally bonding reaction in a girl and to demonstrate your perspicacity, the way to segue into the love test without sounding a false note is to say “I can tell you something about yourself with a simple game”. Most girls, as long as you have built attraction with them, will bite at this delicious bait.

If you are a girl reading this post who remains unviolated by my tremendous manhood, you may want to give yourself this test before reading the answers. Just read the italicized parts and cover up the answers underneath with your hand.

The Love Test

You will ask the girl a series of six questions within a story in which she is presented with two choices as an answer for each question. She must choose one or the other, and she has to go with her gut. Remind her to answer quickly and to avoid lingering over a choice. At the end of the test, you will tell her what her answers reveal about herself.

“You have a lover, a man who is everything to you. He lives apart from you, but within walking distance. One day you decide to visit him. You have two paths you can take to get to his home. One is a short but boring path that will get you there quickly. The other is a long but scenic path with many beautiful sites that will take longer. Which do you take?”

If she answers “short”, this means she falls in love quickly. She is passionate and impulsive.
If she answers “long”, this means she takes a while to fall in love. She is circumspect and enjoys the buildup to falling in love.

“Along the path you come across rose bushes. The roses come in two colors — red and white. You decide you want to pick some roses for your lover. You are allowed to pick twenty roses of any combination of red or white. How many red and how many white roses do you pick?”

Red roses symbolize selflessness. A woman who picks more red than white roses is a giver in a relationship.
White roses symbolize selfishness. A woman who picks more white than red roses is a taker in a relationship.
[Editor's note: You'd probably not be surprised how many DC women pick more white than red roses. This part of the test is a great screening mechanism for LTR material.]

“You arrive at your lover’s home and knock on the door. A family member opens the door. Do you ask to be let in so you can go to his room to see him, or do you ask the family member to bring him to the door?”

If she answers “ask to be let in”, she does not let arguments simmer in a relationship. She prefers having it out.
If she answers “bring him to the door”, she lets arguments slide and buries her anger. She avoids conflict and drama.

“You go up to his bedroom and he is not there. You want to leave the roses in his room. Do you leave them on his windowsill or on his bed?”

If she answers “windowsill”, she prefers more casual relationships where she doesn’t feel a need to see her lover very often.
If she answers “bed”, she prefers intense relationships where she sees her lover a lot.
[Editor's note: Windowsill girls are cheap dates.]

“Your lover returns and you two spend the night together making sweet sweet sex. You both fall asleep and in the morning you wake up first. You lean over to his side of the bed to see if he is awake. Is he awake or still sleeping?”

If she answers “awake”, she is the type of girl who will try to change her man into her image of the perfect boyfriend.
If she answers “asleep”, she loves her man just the way he is, flaws and all.

“It’s the end of the day and time for you to say goodbye to your lover and go home. As before, you are presented with two paths to get home — a long but scenic path and a short but boring path. Which path do you take?”

If she answers “long”, she takes a long time to fall out of love. Breakups are hard on her. She is given to nostalgia and reminiscence. She is a natural romantic.
If she answers “short”, she falls out of love quickly. Breakups are short, sharp affairs that she gets over in no time and with little handwringing. She is a natural slut.

***

I remember this one particularly aggro DC lawyer chick I ran the love test on. These were her answers:

long
all white
asked to be let in
windowsill
awake
short
I enjoyed making her wince with pain during anal sex.

I use this routine on just about every girl I have banged; for same night-lay's I consider this routine to be a requirement.

When it's just you and her sitting in a bar, or laying somewhere quiet, this routine is ridiculously effective. Generally this routine should be pulled out at the one-hour mark in a seduction. Girls eat this shit up. It also consumes 15-20 minutes, so it's perfect for just killing time until the bar closes or for building comfort. All-around LMR reducer.

You can even make up a back story of how your college girlfriend ran it on you from one of her Cosmo magazines.

Anyone know where this routine comes from? This sounds like it's based on some kind of formal psychoanalytic evaluation.

[gringochileno]

(01-20-2012 01:23 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/02/1...as-opener/

I have personally used the bad hair opener and gotten laid. It was the first time I ever tried it. Every woman I've used it on since, it has failed me.


By far and away, THE BEST routine ever posted on Roissy (I'm not sure I should share this):

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/06/0...a-routine/

Quote:

A while back on this blog I mentioned in passing that I had a comfort building routine I use which isn’t, as far as I’m aware, especially well-known in the seduction community. The routine was given to me by a friend. Its effectiveness is without doubt; of all the women I’ve charmed with the love test, my bang rate is 90%. For a long while it was my go-to comfort stage routine; I was on auto-pilot when I used it.

Since I’m feeling generous I will share it with everyone here. Virginal routines that haven’t yet gone mainstream are worth their words in gold, so get on your knees and kiss my triskelion ring for this gift I give you. All I ask is that you don’t use the routine on girls if you happen to be in DC, Soweto, Prague, Warsaw, Toronto, or the Australian outback. It’s bad form to cross the streams.

As with all psychological routines designed to elecit an emotionally bonding reaction in a girl and to demonstrate your perspicacity, the way to segue into the love test without sounding a false note is to say “I can tell you something about yourself with a simple game”. Most girls, as long as you have built attraction with them, will bite at this delicious bait.

If you are a girl reading this post who remains unviolated by my tremendous manhood, you may want to give yourself this test before reading the answers. Just read the italicized parts and cover up the answers underneath with your hand.

The Love Test

You will ask the girl a series of six questions within a story in which she is presented with two choices as an answer for each question. She must choose one or the other, and she has to go with her gut. Remind her to answer quickly and to avoid lingering over a choice. At the end of the test, you will tell her what her answers reveal about herself.

“You have a lover, a man who is everything to you. He lives apart from you, but within walking distance. One day you decide to visit him. You have two paths you can take to get to his home. One is a short but boring path that will get you there quickly. The other is a long but scenic path with many beautiful sites that will take longer. Which do you take?”

If she answers “short”, this means she falls in love quickly. She is passionate and impulsive.
If she answers “long”, this means she takes a while to fall in love. She is circumspect and enjoys the buildup to falling in love.

“Along the path you come across rose bushes. The roses come in two colors — red and white. You decide you want to pick some roses for your lover. You are allowed to pick twenty roses of any combination of red or white. How many red and how many white roses do you pick?”

Red roses symbolize selflessness. A woman who picks more red than white roses is a giver in a relationship.
White roses symbolize selfishness. A woman who picks more white than red roses is a taker in a relationship.
[Editor's note: You'd probably not be surprised how many DC women pick more white than red roses. This part of the test is a great screening mechanism for LTR material.]

“You arrive at your lover’s home and knock on the door. A family member opens the door. Do you ask to be let in so you can go to his room to see him, or do you ask the family member to bring him to the door?”

If she answers “ask to be let in”, she does not let arguments simmer in a relationship. She prefers having it out.
If she answers “bring him to the door”, she lets arguments slide and buries her anger. She avoids conflict and drama.

“You go up to his bedroom and he is not there. You want to leave the roses in his room. Do you leave them on his windowsill or on his bed?”

If she answers “windowsill”, she prefers more casual relationships where she doesn’t feel a need to see her lover very often.
If she answers “bed”, she prefers intense relationships where she sees her lover a lot.
[Editor's note: Windowsill girls are cheap dates.]

“Your lover returns and you two spend the night together making sweet sweet sex. You both fall asleep and in the morning you wake up first. You lean over to his side of the bed to see if he is awake. Is he awake or still sleeping?”

If she answers “awake”, she is the type of girl who will try to change her man into her image of the perfect boyfriend.
If she answers “asleep”, she loves her man just the way he is, flaws and all.

“It’s the end of the day and time for you to say goodbye to your lover and go home. As before, you are presented with two paths to get home — a long but scenic path and a short but boring path. Which path do you take?”

If she answers “long”, she takes a long time to fall out of love. Breakups are hard on her. She is given to nostalgia and reminiscence. She is a natural romantic.
If she answers “short”, she falls out of love quickly. Breakups are short, sharp affairs that she gets over in no time and with little handwringing. She is a natural slut.

***

I remember this one particularly aggro DC lawyer chick I ran the love test on. These were her answers:

long
all white
asked to be let in
windowsill
awake
short
I enjoyed making her wince with pain during anal sex.

I use this routine on just about every girl I have banged; for same night-lay's I consider this routine to be a requirement.

When it's just you and her sitting in a bar, or laying somewhere quiet, this routine is ridiculously effective. Generally this routine should be pulled out at the one-hour mark in a seduction. Girls eat this shit up. It also consumes 15-20 minutes, so it's perfect for just killing time until the bar closes or for building comfort. All-around LMR reducer.

You can even make up a back story of how your college girlfriend ran it on you from one of her Cosmo magazines.

Problem is you can't really use more than one of these kokology routines on any one girl. I like to save it for a date when I usually bust out the Strawberry Game a little while before I try to pull the girl back to my apartment. I can see the benefits of being more aggressive and using it to build comfort before going for an SNL though, I'll try it out.

[Samseau]

Fuck dates dude. If you're meeting her at night, go for the same night lay.

Girls also love this routine. Some of them will text you afterwards about how they're windowsill lovers so they're okay with not seeing you till week.

[gringochileno]

(01-20-2012 06:25 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Fuck dates dude. If you're meeting her at night, go for the same night lay.

I always do. Believe me, being insufficiently aggressive is not one of my weak points. I've just been keeping it in the quiver so I can use it on a date if the SNL doesn't happen because it's one of the cornerstones of my date game. I'll take your suggestion though, I can definitely see this working the same night too.

I really like the way the Love Test is worded. I'm gonna start using it instead of Strawberry Game and see if it does better.

[Smitty]

I think Roissy and Heartiste are two different people. I've been reading for years and the writing style between the two is very different.

[dice3510]

There are multiple contributors to Roissy's site, one of them is definitely the old Roissy.

Most psychopathic article:

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/11/0...-among-us/

[Deluge]

(01-20-2012 11:14 PM)Smitty Wrote:  

I think Roissy and Heartiste are two different people. I've been reading for years and the writing style between the two is very different.

Like I said I suspect the same. Can you a couple different posts to highlight the difference?

[Smitty]

(01-21-2012 02:20 AM)P Dog Wrote:  

(01-20-2012 11:14 PM)Smitty Wrote:  

I think Roissy and Heartiste are two different people. I've been reading for years and the writing style between the two is very different.

Like I said I suspect the same. Can you a couple different posts to highlight the difference?

Check out Roissy's classic "The Sixteen Commandments of Poon" and then read any of the recent posts by Heartiste.

Roissy's writing was very similar to Roosh's: intelligent, entertaining, raunchy and humorous. Roissy was much more derogatory toward females.

Heartiste's writing style is more intellectual (maybe even classy) with a serious tone.

I like Roissy's stuff from 2008.

[MrXY]

Roissy's archives are so rich with content i wouldn't just try to cherry pick them. Start with the links people have provided you, but as you have time go through the site from the beginning, just skipping over articles that you are sure won't interest you. It might take you several months but it will be worth it, trust me. I have a file of notes I took from the articles that I refer to regularly as a refresher

[Gmac]

(01-20-2012 11:41 PM)dice3510 Wrote:  

There are multiple contributors to Roissy's site, one of them is definitely the old Roissy.

Most psychopathic article:

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/11/0...-among-us/

Awesome.