[Bill]

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PDog: The problems with turks in Germany is wayyy bigger. The 2nd biggest city with turkish inhabitants is... guess what: Berlin! Also, Scandinavians love to pretend like they don't care about race and act according to that. Germans pretend too, but they still have it hard wired in their thought process.

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This rumour, however, must be sent to the land of fables. And this for the simple reason that within Turkey there are at least two cities that are larger than Berlin. The Berlin Bureau of Statistics website states a figure of 3,4 million Berliners; this compares to populations of around 9 million in Istanbul and anything between 3,5 and 4,5 million in Ankara. Moreover, Wikipedia estimates that there are only 116.000 Turks in Berlin, making it at the best a provincial Turkish town outside of Turkey.

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ROOSH IS TURKISH. Hell, I think he even acquired Turkish citizenship to get into Brazil visa free

I think Roosh is of iranian descendance.

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Coming from a guy who socializes with and goes to school with the sons and daughters of CEO's, top tier lawyers and surgeons, it has always been my experience and impression that the more educated people higher up on the social hierarchy are the least prejudiced and least racist in any society. As a minority myself, I've always the found the hate comes is strongest among the working class and not at the top. I think this is so because they're afraid that immigrants will steal their jobs.

The Elite creats the problems but have not to deal with them.

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German born Turkish holding two passports pumping Euros into Turkey from their German jobs

You can not have both passports.

[americanInEurope]

(01-24-2012 01:22 PM)Bill Wrote:  

You can not have both passports.

Not true. There are lots of Germans living in Germany that are citizens of two countries.

[Donald Duck]

AIE, what's the best city in NRW for girls and night/daygame? I've been to Dortmund, sadly only for 1 day on a Sunday and didn't see much but it's a somewhat big city. Could have a lot of talent.

[Sourcecode]

(01-24-2012 02:17 PM)americanInEurope Wrote:  

(01-24-2012 01:22 PM)Bill Wrote:  

You can not have both passports.

Not true. There are lots of Germans living in Germany that are citizens of two countries.

phrasing wikipedia
Turks_in_Germany#Citizenship

not 100 percent clear an im not gonna go reading through law books.but for turks anyone between the years 18 and 23 you have to decide which citizenship you want?

so i assume anyone born before 1990 cant have dual citizenship? everyone else is grandfathered in?


citizens of the EU and switzerland can have dual citizenship though

[Bill]

(01-24-2012 03:10 PM)Sourcecode Wrote:  

(01-24-2012 02:17 PM)americanInEurope Wrote:  

(01-24-2012 01:22 PM)Bill Wrote:  

You can not have both passports.

Not true. There are lots of Germans living in Germany that are citizens of two countries.

phrasing wikipedia
Turks_in_Germany#Citizenship

not 100 percent clear an im not gonna go reading through law books.but for turks anyone between the years 18 and 23 you have to decide which citizenship you want?

so i assume anyone born before 1990 cant have dual citizenship? everyone else is grandfathered in?


citizens of the EU and switzerland can have dual citizenship though

I am a turk from germany. Both passports are not possible.

[americanInEurope]

(01-24-2012 03:10 PM)Sourcecode Wrote:  

(01-24-2012 02:17 PM)americanInEurope Wrote:  

(01-24-2012 01:22 PM)Bill Wrote:  

You can not have both passports.

Not true. There are lots of Germans living in Germany that are citizens of two countries.

phrasing wikipedia
Turks_in_Germany#Citizenship

not 100 percent clear an im not gonna go reading through law books.but for turks anyone between the years 18 and 23 you have to decide which citizenship you want?

so i assume anyone born before 1990 cant have dual citizenship? everyone else is grandfathered in?


citizens of the EU and switzerland can have dual citizenship though

Yeah that's right too, but I do remember meeting some people who were able to work in both countries. I don't know maybe I got it wrong. But anyway, it still doesn't stop an enormous flow of money into the country from German born Turks, and Germans see that as a huge problem and is probably the biggest cockblock in letting Turkey in the EU.

[Deluge]

(01-24-2012 01:22 PM)Bill Wrote:  

I think Roosh is of iranian descendance.

Nope, Roosh is definitely Turkish.

[Bill]

(01-24-2012 06:46 PM)americanInEurope Wrote:  

(01-24-2012 03:10 PM)Sourcecode Wrote:  

(01-24-2012 02:17 PM)americanInEurope Wrote:  

(01-24-2012 01:22 PM)Bill Wrote:  

You can not have both passports.

Not true. There are lots of Germans living in Germany that are citizens of two countries.

phrasing wikipedia
Turks_in_Germany#Citizenship

not 100 percent clear an im not gonna go reading through law books.but for turks anyone between the years 18 and 23 you have to decide which citizenship you want?

so i assume anyone born before 1990 cant have dual citizenship? everyone else is grandfathered in?


citizens of the EU and switzerland can have dual citizenship though

Yeah that's right too, but I do remember meeting some people who were able to work in both countries. I don't know maybe I got it wrong. But anyway, it still doesn't stop an enormous flow of money into the country from German born Turks, and Germans see that as a huge problem and is probably the biggest cockblock in letting Turkey in the EU.

A turk with a german passport isn´t allowed to have a turkish passport because of the german law. But Turkey gives their former citizens almost all of their past rights.

No, the reason why Turkey is not in the EU is that the turkish/islam culture doesn´t fit in to the european culture.

[Deluge]

(01-25-2012 02:37 AM)Bill Wrote:  

(01-24-2012 06:46 PM)americanInEurope Wrote:  

(01-24-2012 03:10 PM)Sourcecode Wrote:  

(01-24-2012 02:17 PM)americanInEurope Wrote:  

(01-24-2012 01:22 PM)Bill Wrote:  

You can not have both passports.

Not true. There are lots of Germans living in Germany that are citizens of two countries.

phrasing wikipedia
Turks_in_Germany#Citizenship

not 100 percent clear an im not gonna go reading through law books.but for turks anyone between the years 18 and 23 you have to decide which citizenship you want?

so i assume anyone born before 1990 cant have dual citizenship? everyone else is grandfathered in?


citizens of the EU and switzerland can have dual citizenship though

Yeah that's right too, but I do remember meeting some people who were able to work in both countries. I don't know maybe I got it wrong. But anyway, it still doesn't stop an enormous flow of money into the country from German born Turks, and Germans see that as a huge problem and is probably the biggest cockblock in letting Turkey in the EU.

A turk with a german passport isn´t allowed to have a turkish passport because of the german law. But Turkey gives their former citizens almost all of their past rights.

No, the reason why Turkey is not in the EU is that the turkish/islam culture doesn´t fit in to the european culture.

Fun Fact: Genetic studies on Turks have found Turks are more closely related to Europeans than Middle Easterners. The closest biological relatives of Turkish people are the Greeks, who also happened to have heavily colonized Turkey in Antiquity. And Greece of all places is considered the birthplace of Western civilization.

Also, Bosniaks are Muslims, but they are considered to be Europeans. Why the double standard between Bosnia & Herzegovina and Turkey? Spain, Portugal and Sicily at different times in history have been Islamic. France came close to becoming Islamic at the Battle of Tours in 733. Hell, Cordoba in Spain was once the capital one of the world's largest Islamic Caliphates. Does that mean that during those periods they were not culturally European?

I don't have an opinion yet of the Turkey/EU question. I'm just stirring the pot on some intelligent debate. What are your thoughts on that Bill?

[Bill]

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Fun Fact: Genetic studies on Turks have found Turks are more closely related to Europeans than Middle Easterners. The closest biological relatives of Turkish people are the Greeks, who also happened to have heavily colonized Turkey in Antiquity. And Greece of all places is considered the birthplace of Western civilization.

Also, Bosniaks are Muslims, but they are considered to be Europeans. Why the double standard between Bosnia & Herzegovina and Turkey? Spain, Portugal and Sicily at different times in history have been Islamic. France came close to becoming Islamic at the Battle of Tours in 733. Hell, Cordoba in Spain was once the capital one of the world's largest Islamic Caliphates. Does that mean that during those periods they were not culturally European?

I don't have an opinion yet of the Turkey/EU question. I'm just stirring the pot on some intelligent debate. What are your thoughts on that Bill?

Turkey is too big, to poor, too different.

But Turkey could be of importance geo-strategically against Russia and China.

[amity]

(01-24-2012 02:51 PM)Donald Duck Wrote:  

AIE, what's the best city in NRW for girls and night/daygame? I've been to Dortmund, sadly only for 1 day on a Sunday and didn't see much but it's a somewhat big city. Could have a lot of talent.

I've been to Dortmund too and it definitely lacks something compared to say the cities and towns of Badem Wurtemburg, I've had more success with day and night game in 2nd or 3rd tiers cities/towns there, particularly where's there a university in the vicinity with uni events going on regularly
The modern urban environment of cities like Dortmund have never been good to me womenwise

[Sourcecode]

Haha I just read ronnies post at thebeginning of this thread..ignore the shit out of him.

He was probably lame guy that death started me for ten minutes last week when I took his chick from him at the bar.
He who hesitates, masturbates.

That being said..I'm heading to dusseldorf in two days

[Sourcecode]

Just spend the last couple days in Dusseldorf for Karneval.
I went as a nun..people thought I was Whoopi Goldberg..Even though I was Method man(how high)

The streets probably won't be ass packed as shit when Karneval is over. (alot of older people are in the street while the young ones are inside drinking and dancing

But heres my attempt at giving a little data

Ballerman 6
Pretty giant club
I think it had like 3 floors or something. lots of dance space and enough space to stop and drink.
Even though its multi story you can kinda see down the whole building.
So it was easy to pick out girls.
There was also a 3.50 euro cover


I made out and finger fucked a girl dressed like Jasmine from Aladdin( Im guessing she was bosnian or something since one of the guys she was with said he was muslim) Her friend wanted go home..and wouldnt let me take her

Sausalitos

I spent alot of time here.
They have a dance floor area in the back that was used one night.
The other night it had tables and more people sitting
*During happy hour the jumbo glass cocktails are half price ( 6euro)
**Since I spotted claim early in the day here, the bartenders got to know me and I was getting 4euro cocktails extra strong.
The cocktails come with two straws...They might claim thats just the system..but I believe its like that because 2 people are suppose to drink it instead of 1.


Its kinda cramped walking past the bar but it opens up with sitting and standing tables and made it easy to bounce around girls.

I picked up 4 different girls in my couple days coming here
American dressed up like a victoria secret bunny
Polish dressed like sailor moon with a bunch of her asian friends

German dressed like a vampire
German dressed like soldier

only one of them led to any success though

tir-na-nog

Spanish club with decent floor space.
If youre a latin dancer, this is your place.
Its probably better when its not karneval because chicks weren't trying to leave

There were a couple other good places I simply don't remember and I can't google street view to find out

There where a couple places that had racist bouncers.
I don't know the company name,but they all wore jackets or hoodies that say
Rock City Dusseldorf

Kuhstahl
The club look like a rave from the outside
doors open bunch of top quality girls inside
+ girls dancing on the table
I tried to get in here 3 times through the week/end
once with guys, and two other times with girls.
Everyone would get let in but i would get stopped(
one bouncer even got physical and pushed me so hard I knocked over a girl behind me.

I'd like to hope they were only the security for this week.
But just a heads up..You won't get into these places if you're minority



I don't think I went to any of these places but it was on the wall in my hostel. It might help someone

[Greek kamaki]

In Dusseldorf there is high concentration of Russian women.In 4 days there I managed to get two girlfriends.My tactique was quite simple.I just sat in the central railway station(Hauptbahnhof) where tons of chicks where passing by.When I spot one with slavic characteristics I went and talked to her in Russian.I remember some German guys were looking astonished when I was hand in hand with a beauty from Moscow just after 10 minutes I picked her up for first time next to her mother.

In general Germans do not mind hearing Russian but they have a problem with polish.If you are in Germany do not talk polish you will attract lots of undesired attention from the wrong kind of people.

[Sourcecode]

..I don't even know the difference between the two...

[Greek kamaki]

Polish sounds like syncopated Russian often described as bird talk.Russian sounds like flow river polish.For example droga in polish(syncopated) becomes dorogaya in Russia(vowels full).Zloty in polish becomes zolotoj in Russian.

A German ear can immediately recognize the difference and the judgement and mood towards the polish is usually bad.In general where Poles and Germans appear there is always tension in the air.Like with Serbs and Croats.

[DomWasHere]

My first post.

Name's Dom and I just moved to NRW (Geilenkirchen), going to be stationed here until 2015.

I had partied in K-Town a few years back (Kaiserslautern; Bavaria) and was under the impression that all of Germany was like this (schnitzel, pretzels, girls approaching YOU in the club, women with amazing bodies, etc). I'm a little disappointed thus far but I will say the cities around (Dusseldorf, Cologne, Aachen, Maastricht, etc) do have some serious potential. Hoping it's just quiet like this because of the summer. Paying very close attention to "americanInEurope"'s posts. Anyways, glad to finally be onboard. Cheers!

[Rurik]

(01-24-2012 09:35 PM)P Dog Wrote:  

(01-24-2012 01:22 PM)Bill Wrote:  

I think Roosh is of iranian descendance.

Nope, Roosh is definitely Turkish.

You're both right. He's half Turkish Half Iranian.

I look forward to gaming German women.

I find the perspectives of this thread interesting. Just because someone is a native man of the country, doesn't mean they know more about what the women want. In fact, they may know less about the desires of the women, since women often lie about who they are interested in.

Being a foreigner of a different ethnicity is going to be an advantage for at least a certain minority of women wherever you go, especially if your type isn't common in that country.

[sheesh]

(02-21-2012 06:43 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

Polish sounds like syncopated Russian often described as bird talk.Russian sounds like flow river polish.For example droga in polish(syncopated) becomes dorogaya in Russia(vowels full).Zloty in polish becomes zolotoj in Russian.

A German ear can immediately recognize the difference and the judgement and mood towards the polish is usually bad.In general where Poles and Germans appear there is always tension in the air.Like with Serbs and Croats.

Nobody likes the Russians in Germany, but because they have a reputation of being extremely violent and brutal, people rather shut up. Even starting an argument with these guys can be a death sentence.

[Bill]

DomWasHere, Geilenkirchen means "horny churches". Very funny city name where you stay. Yes german girls are not really easy.