Quote: (08-30-2011 06:41 PM)1bliss Wrote:
exagerrated. Yes it is much more difficult than most US cities due to how diverse it is, but like I said, I know a lot of people who have no problem getting lays here.
I disagree with the concept about Toronto being hard because it's diverse.
I grew up in London, England and that place is probably as diverse as Toronto. I met Vietnamese, Swedish, Russian, Ukranian, Polish, African, Caribbean, Pakistani, etc etc..you name it..to the same degree as Toronto.
Tons of FOBS too.
It took me a while to put my finger on it when I came to Toronto. I was very much taken in by the diversity of people and fine women and I thought I was going to absolutely kill it here.
So what is it?
The difference is, the Canadian culture is lax when it comes to imposing integration of different cultures. You can come in from whatever country it is and not even know how to speak the language and there is no cultural pressure from Canadians for one to integrate.
Yes, the Canadians think all sorts of things about FOBS (a friend of mine admitted her disgust when some cat at her workplace decided to wash his feet in the kitchen sink.
But Canadians don't say shyt about it.
As a result, many cultures don't feel that pressure to integrate and remain in their own groups.
The English on the other hand, make you feel uncomfortable if you continue to adhere to your country mannerisms without any semblance of integration.
In school, you can't imagine the amount of ridicule the other kids would heap on the FOBS.
I heard it in stores. I felt the insinuations towards others in the workplace and in stores.
London lizards also don't give a shyt. I've heard them yell at some of my FOB friends "Fack off back to your country"
How's that as a catalyst for integration?
America is the same way. Americans don't seem to give a fcuk about telling you to do things the American way or fcuk off.
I've worked in IT and had an American guy demand one of my Indian friends off of the phone and bring on a guy who could speak 'American'.
This type of frank behaviour shakes one up and reminds them to get with the program.
Again, Canadians will think the same way but will not overtly act on it.
I've heard my Canadian friends thoughts on immigrants.
Let me give you an example of integration pressure.
Some friends of mine visited me recently from the U.K. One of the guys ( a friend of my friend) had moved to London from Jamaica five years ago.
When I heard this guy speak, I could not hear the Jamaican accent strongly. His London accent didn't sound 100 percent but I couldn't overtly catch the Jamaican twang.
Now, I know guys here from the island who have been here for 20 years plus and their accent sounds as strong as Samson.
Five years, faded accent versus 20 years no change.
Why? Because there is no Canadian pressure to integrate.
An Indian friend of mine, recently moved to America maybe five years ago. Prior to that he had been living in Toronto for about 12 years and change.
I went to his place in Brampton last year. His swag is totally different now.
His accent dwindled down, even his wife is more chatty and groovy.
In the years prior that I knew him, his accent was as thick as gravy.
How is it that in four years he has changed so much?
To conclude, it's got fcuk all to do with diversity. That's just some crap the Canadians feed you.
Cultural integration.
I repeat: London, England is JUST as diverse as Toronto.
The exact same diverse groups you see here in the dot, I saw them in London, England.