[mrganteng]

(07-23-2016 12:28 AM)Rawmeo Wrote:  

I agree with that too, if the girl isn't willing to sleep with you, you haven't properly turned her on. Remember, men use logic, girls use feelings. So you must play with her feelings to turn her on before making a physical move.

Would you be kind enough to share some advice/ tips on this?

[mrganteng]

Fucking blue-balls again.... Happened once again last night.

Was my flatmate's birthday and she invited a couple of friends- about 8 of us went out to a club after pre-drinks at the flat.

One of my flatmate's friends seemed into me straight from the beginning- I escalated throughout the evening.

She started grinding on me in the club and we made out several times- I take her hand and we go back to the flat.

She first said 'We're not having sex tonight/ I'm not sleeping with you' spiel as we walk through to my room. I'm thinking yeah sure, whatever...

Once in my room- we kiss, i escalate with 1 step forward and 2 back trying to avoid any LMR. I manage to undo her bra and suck on the tits and she's repeating 'We're not having sex tonight' and then she says 'what do you want?' 'I want a relationship before sex' 'I've never done a one night stand' 'Promise you won't tell your flatmates?'

I get my cock out and she's got both hands around it- saying its the biggest she's had. I ask her what her favorite position is. All the time pushing one step further. I'm rubbing my cock on the outside of her panties and i can feel the period pad inside- no worries i can just use a condom.

After about 1 hr 30 mins of her being in my room- kissing, playing with her tits, her rubbing my cock BUT she just would not let me take her panties off. I ended up kicking her out of my room as it was just getting silly and all she wanted was cuddling.

I'm pretty sure she didn't go all out due to the fact she didn't want to seem slutty in front of her friends- so i basically got cock-blocked by my flatmate.

[XPQ22]

(07-19-2016 01:52 PM)Cronus Wrote:  

We make out for at least two hours with plenty of petting and touching. At one point I had her on top of me grinding my dick into oblivion. Again the same response, "not tonight, not tonight."

Eventually, boredom came in and told her to go home. The next night she invited me to her house and the same thing happened. I got her naked this time and right before penetration she started her "not tonight" spiel again. It was the first time I was teased so hard and got nothing out of it. Soon after, I left.

In my world, it's time over pussy. One of the main vibes I got from her was TIME-HO. This chick wanted to do relationship stuff like cuddling, watching movies and spending the night with no sexual investment on her part. I have a three date rule. Unless I really like the chick she has three dates to put out in some form. This was her second, but because she was such a dry tease she might not get a third.

A situation happened to me just like that earlier this year, and I did exactly the same thing.

Invited me to her place twice, thought I was going to get the bang, but put up extreme LMR both times. My analysis was the same as yours: she was a recent "victim" of a pump n dump and trying to get a guy to sign on for a relationship before ever sampling the goods. And my reaction was the same; after it happened twice I nexted her.

The reason chicks like this have such a horror of being pumped n dumped is because at some level they realize that they're not bringing anything to the table but their pussies. Same goes for those "NO HOOKUPS!" girls on online dating sites; the reason it keeps happening is because after meeting them guys notice they have a whack personality, a whack career, a whack-looking pair of titties, and a whack set of demands for what they're offering. And their apartment is sloppy as hell with dirty clothes strewn all over, you can see that right in their Tinder selfie.

Attractive chicks who are bringing shit to the table, in my experience, don't have such a horror about it. They're more selective in general, and while I'm sure they've also been pumped and dumped a few times, they've had just as many dudes begging them for LTRs. Some of them seem to get the fact that "attraction can't be negotiated", and as one of the major reasons for the failure of LTRs is sexual incompatibility, they want to get that out of the way just as rapidly - they don't want to go on six dates over a month with some cat only to realize he's bad at sex and has a weird-looking dick because their time is valuable, too.

The couple guys who bang them and don't come running back are just a cost of doing business.

Six date Kate doesn't care if you have a weird-looking dick, because she just wants to make you her hoe. Once she feels confident she's got a guy with a weird-looking dick on lock in that role she'll feel better about herself, and go hit up Chad Thundercock on the DL for the good lovin', as surely as night follows day. So I think if you must get lays from these whack "NO HOOKUPS!" chicks, your goal is definitely to be the latter, not the former.

[DonnyGately]

completely agree on your point on more attractive chicks.

[XPQ22]

I basically wrote the above cuz I met up with a decent-looking OKC chick a couple weeks ago who had "NO HOOKUPS!" plastered all over her profile and after two hours at the bar, whaddya know, she was throwing herself on me in the front seat of my car.

Flaked on the second meet, though.

She told me some BS at the bar about how she just moved to the area five minutes ago, and that she actually lived in this town here instead of that town over there as some sort of enhancement of privacy. As if I haven't heard this stuff before. None of the girls I ever saw for longer periods ever fucked with their location settings.

Dollars to donuts NO HOOKUPS lady already had a boyfriend in the area.