Quote: (04-23-2016 02:43 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:
^Where are the Mongols now? A desperately poor and desolate country of less than 3 million despite being the size of Western Europe.
Sure they have descendants running around the Eurasian steppe's and Central Asia but do they identify as Mongolian? Are they culturally Mongolian?
On the other hand, insular cultures like Jews, Persians, Ethiopians and Japanese who prefer breeding with their own women have survived for Millennia.
Ashkenazim (read: most of the world's Jews) are largely the product of intermarriage between men with middle-eastern roots and European women. This is why the maternal lineages of Jewish populations have been shown to be rather heterogenous, but the paternal lineages
far more consistent. They are born of genetic intermingling (which is a form of cuckolding now I guess, so I shall refer to this as "ancestral cucking"). The Sephardim (who account for the bulk of the non-Ashkenazim on the planet) have pretty much the same story. In short, Jews are genetically heterogenous products of ancestral cucking that, while far less violently executed, is not entirely dissimilar to that which we have ascribed to the Mongols.
"Ethiopians" are not a single people or culture. The history of the Oromo is defined by expansion and integration of various peoples (read: interbreeding/intermarriage/mixing). They have substantial Nilotic admixture. All of the major ethnic groups in Ethiopia show genetic affinities with populations outside of the country (particularly near eastern Caucasoids, whose gene flow into Ethiopia was extensive and has been well documented), which would imply extensive episodes of ancestral cucking have taken place there in the past.
The Persian people are no strangers to ancestral cucking. In fact, they have historically been quite adept at it, which is why today the Iranian peoples are quite diverse. Azeris, Turkmen, and Uzbeks are all considered modern Turkic-Iranian hybrids. The Tajiks (whose homelands are in modern day Uzbekistan, Afghanistan, and Tajikistan) are the product of widespread ancestral cucking led by Persians. Extensive admixture is evident in Iran itself and all over the region - in fact, Central/West Asia has generally been among the ancestral cucking capitals of the ancient world. The Iranians are among the few who can rival the Mongols in this regard - both were quite gifted ancestral cucks.
Also, I'm not sure about your characterization and comparison of Mongolia. You describe it as a poor and desolate nation before going on to compare/contrast it with several other peoples you (presumably?) consider more successful due to their insularity and lower propensity for ancestral cucking.
Aside from the fact that several of the nations/populaces you listed have had a long history of ancestral cucking not unlike that of the Mongols, a couple of them (most notably Ethiopia) are not much stronger than modern Mongolia in a developmental or economic sense. In fact, Mongolia is far ahead of Ethiopia by the measure of some well regarded metrics of human development, like the UN Human Development Index. The
latest UN HDI (which was, ironically, released in Addis Ababa 5 months ago) ranks Mongolia at 90 (.727 measure, above world average of .711) and Ethiopia at 174 (.442 measure, quite far below world average of .711). Mongolia's per capita GDP (measured nominally or by PPP) is more than 5 times greater than that of Ethiopia.
This despite all of the ancestral cucking.
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You might not be getting cucked sexually but you're sure cucking your ancestry, heritage and culture. I can trace back my ancestry to 12th century Ethiopian Orthodox priests who fought alongside the crusaders in Jerusalem against the Saracen hoardes.
There are probably some Arabs, Syrians and Jews in that ancestral tree as well given the well documented genetic
links between Ethiopia and outside populations (particularly those in the near east).
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0 chance I'm letting that part of me go by marrying someone else.
But to each their own i guess.
You wouldn't be here if your ancestors felt that way.
But yes, to each their own.