Quote: (04-23-2016 10:17 AM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:
They're just white ... from which you pathetically extrapolated that their kids would grow up to change the world while the black kids they adopted will not. That's pretty close to the IQ and Race bullshit spewed on HBD forums.
I do lean towards the HBD camp, which means that you and I have a disagreement on facts, rather than values. You and I could debate, present evidence, re-examine our assumptions, et cetera, and likely come to some sort of agreement (or at least ammend our present posittions) - but that would not only be a massive amount of work, but would also derail the thread and forum. There are times when civilized men simply agree to disagree.
That said, I'd like to clarify a couple of points, since race itself had very little to do with my disappointment.
First, that although I do consider race a significant factor on the statistical level, and a notable factor on the individual level, it's far from the most important. As the saying goes, IQ is a great way to measure men, but a poor measure for a man; this goes for all generalizations. Being tall doesn't make you a good basketball player, for example. There's a host of other factors; culture, erudition, style of dress, what part of the country somebody comes from (New York values anyone?), et cetera.
That said, I do advocate the continuance of heterogenous ethnic groups - of actual multiculturalism, rather than the cultural bleaching which the term usually means - for a variety of reasons. Religiously, because of what happened to Babylon's "One World Cultue"; linguistically, because each language has its own form of beauty to it. Culturally, because cultural exchange (meaning American Chinese Food and British Curry, not McDonalds in India) is an incredibly enriching thing; and spiritually, different ethnicities and cultures approach God in different manners, and I think there's lessons we can all learn from one another, and by eliminating our differences we eliminate the ability to understand.
You could argue that none of this had to do with genetic differences between the races, that it has everything to do with culture, and you could be correct - but nonetheless, cultural lines are drawn across lines of race because we as a species are hyper-sensitive to detecting minor differences in one another. I can't tell the difference between a Hutu and a Tutsi, but they certainly can - and they wouldn't know the difference between a Brit and an Irishman, but I sure as Hell do.
So yes, part of my comment was out of a desire to maintain unique cultures and ethnicities in the world; but there was another element as well.
The second reason is that you can learn quite a bit about a person from the shape of their face. Deep-set eye sockets show empathy, and large eyes show intelligence, and this couple strikes me as being genetically endowed with good, pro-civilizational genes. If somebody from the Honey Boo Boo crowd had adopted these children, well - there'd still be the sick fetishization and so forth, the implicit child abuse - but I don't want the Honey Boo Boos of the world breeding. And quite frankly, the sort of Black couple that would use in vitro fertilization are probably amongst the top-tier Blacks, whom we want having more children. I would have rolled my eyes, wished them the best, and moved on.
But this couple looks capable of producing truly spectacular children; that they would commit genetic suicide strikes me as an absolute tragedy.