Quote: (06-16-2011 10:35 AM)MiXX Wrote:
Quote: (06-16-2011 09:49 AM)Entropy4 Wrote:
I know some basic Russian. So we'll see if that changes anything (in many countries it does).
Don't bet on it. They are PROUD to NOT speak Russian or pretend they don't. I learned basic Russian and not once dod I get a smile for my efforts.
Mixx
Jesus, I dont know. That place was paradise for me. I can speak a little Russian though and I understand the culture a bit more I guess. You cant game those women like you do western broads, they will think you retarded.
Have you been to the Ukraine yet Mixx? What are you basing this on? There are parts of the Ukraine where they dont even speak Ukrainian, they speak Russian only. The closer you get to Poland the more they speak Ukrainian. You cannot compare how women react abroad to the way they react at home, that is a fools game Im afraid.
Its also important to remember that they are going through what they "Ukranianization", which is basically encouraging the people, predominantly in the capitals, to be pro Ukraine and anti old school Russia too, so its instilling a sense of national pride in them and that is something to be encouraged too.
Now when it comes to meeting women in Kiev, its also important to remember that the place has been turned into a sex tourist mecca over the last 20 years. Its something the local men and women feel a great deal of shame about, but its also something that has led to a lot of anger. So when she finds out you are on holiday, and she sees you hitting on or flirting with a lot of women, the first thing she does is classify you as a potential sex tourist. (which you are boys, you not going there for the arts and culture are you?) Which means that if her friends or people she knows see her with a foreigner, they think she could be turning tricks.
Another thing to consider is that many dont speak English. They are not going to bother with you if their English is very poor.
To make matters worse, if you are a Latino then you look like a Turk or Caucasian to them (not white, from Georgia or one of the Stans is Caucasian to them) and they have been the biggest pests when the Italians have not been spoiling it for everyone. So it does depend on how dark you are. If you look Spanish or Italian, no trainsmash. If you look more Turkish, then you need to work a bit harder.
Its a great place to pull, but you need to turn to the darkside a little when you are there. You are not on holiday, you are out on business. Or you are looking for an apartment, you need to move there for a year or so. Or you are stationed there for 6 months now, possibly more, and trying to get a feel for the place. Or you are visiting family in the countryside and came down for a little bit of fun.
Those women are DESPERATE for dick, but they are not going to be seen as whores to get it.
Ukrainian women are for me right up there with being the best women in the world overall. Looks, demeanour, attitudes, the works
If you think you are going to be treated like a rockstar because you are a foreigner, you are dreaming. Thats not going to happen in any major capital cities. If you hit up the smaller towns and villages, then you are going to be crushing ass. Thats not even possible though unless you can speak the language.