Quote: (11-11-2014 09:02 AM)ao85 Wrote:
This thread seems basically to boil down to two basic pieces of advice:
1) Improve your outer and inner game - workout, dress well, learn game, don't be creepy, reject limiting beliefs about race
2) Become as Americanized/Westernized as possible (including changing your name! What?) This one is a bit contradictory because on the one hand we're supposed to be proud of our ethnicity but at the same time shed some aspects of it....
It’s not about being westernized, it’s about fitting in and not doing anything which makes you look retarded or gay.
- In India random strangers will look you right in the eye and stare at you, and not look away. This is considered rude in western countries.
- In India straight male friends will walk down the street holding hands with their friends. Do not do this in the west – it’s considered gay
- Many FOB Indian males dress appallingly, even Bollywood stars. They need to dress well.
- Many FOB Indian men also have appalling hairstyles. They need to get decent haircuts.
- Moustaches are considered gay by many westerners, or a throwback to the 70s if you’re a hipster. Avoid, or be very careful how you style them.
- Indians names can be OK in a western country, as long as they are short and easy to pronounce. North Indian names tend to be short, so it’s not an issue. South Indian names tend to be long so should be shortened.
- Many FOB Indians do have bad hygiene or smell bad. In order to avoid this, cook Indian food in a well ventilated room and never let these smells get anywhere near your clothes. They should use deodorant and breath mints.
- Stop being thirsty around women. Do not pedestalise them.
I couldn’t speak English until I was about 5 years old, even though I was born and raised in UK. I’m very much in touch with my Indian heritage and I visited India earlier this year. I’m not ashamed to be Indian, in fact I’m proud of it. I just don’t act like a retard.
Quote: (11-11-2014 09:02 AM)ao85 Wrote:
Any advice for Indians living in East Asia? I'd say the Indian/White dude perception gap (in terms of how local girls react to guys) is much more severe here than in the West (maybe Japan is an exception?), which at least has to pretend to care about tolerance/diversity/multiculturalism etc....
In Asia, even the most Americanized Indian dude still has to "prove," he's American in most East Asian countries. And there's still some pretty backwards beliefs about skin color here.
I'm not being a troll, just trying to get some solid advice. Points #1 and #2 above have been hammered since the beginning of the forum but in order to hit the higher levels of game I think some better brown dude specific advice is needed, esp when living outside the West.
For East Asia – I’ve been to China, Hong Kong, Thailand and Japan.
I was only there for a few days, and the only country I tried to pull women was Japan.
China - I was in Shenzhen and I got stared at everywhere I went. I wouldn’t call it eye fucking, more curiosity. A Chinese woman at the hotel said to me in English, “I like your skin colour” she then stroked my arm and said “You’ve got hair on your arms, Chinese men don’t have hair on their arms”. I was being a bit dumb and didn’t follow up on it. I should have invited her to my room. FOB Chinese women LOVE it if you start talking about anything Chinese related, like food, culture or language. I’ve banged a few FOB Chinese women in the US because of this. A lot of Chinese think Indians are poor, smelly and beggars. Be well dressed and they won’t think that.
One Chinese woman I was banging in the US told her mother that she was seeing an Indian guy. Her mother said, ”Does he smell bad?” She said “No he doesn’t. Do you think the Buddha smelled?” Her mum said “OK, OK..that’s fine” and she shut up. Her mum is a hardcore Buddhist.
Thailand – Thais would never say this to your face, but many of them hate Indian people. Indians have a reputation of being cheap - some of them even try to get discounts from whores! Don’t come across as cheap. I was with a bunch of American people are we were hanging out in red light areas. I don’t do p4p but I just wanted to see what was going on there. One crazy sight I saw was an Indian guy walking down the street holding an Indian woman’s hand (probably his wife), and the Indian woman was holding the hand of a Thai woman. I guess there was threesome that night!
I have an Indian friend who's married to a Thai 7.5. . She said Thai women are open to Indian men, but the Indians in Thailand tend to import women from India, and not marry Thai women.
Japan – There’s almost zero Indians there, but one thing I did was on my phone, using Google translate I wrote in Japanese “My parents are from India, I was born and raised in UK. I live in Los Angeles in America”. I literally pulled out my phone and showed this to the Japanese people. They got who I was straight away. I didn’t want them to think I was from India. I fear for the image of Indians in Japan because the Indians I did see were badly dressed IT/Engineering nerds. I did see a few well dressed Indian guys with hot Japanese girls. Again, be well dressed and I think learning some Japanese is essential. As with the Chinese, Japanese women LOVE it if you know anything about their culture.
My Japan trip is here.
Hong Kong – I didn’t go out and try and pull any women there, but most of the Hong Kongers thought I was a local. They would try to speak to me in Cantonese whenever I walked into a store. I’m not sure if you know this already, but there’s been an Indian population in Hong Kong for over 100 years, and many of them do speak Cantonese. I wasn’t very impressed with the women in Hong Kong. The hottest woman I saw in Hong Kong was a Latina in Lan Kwai Fong.