Quote: (10-06-2014 01:19 AM)K-man Wrote:
Greeks are big on P4P. In most Bulgarian border towns, there are brothels set up specifically for the Greek drive-over visitors.
So what about the so-called "shoring", which many people here actively advocate and are not banned? I personally find this even less honorable than plain whoremongering - if I were gonna fuck a poor third-world whore I'd rather give her the miserable $20 than try to cheat her of it just so I can scratch my ego that "she liked me".
Quote: (10-06-2014 02:39 AM)K-man Wrote:
Re: shoring - can't drop names, but there are a lot of threads about it and a lot of guys go "wow, how cool it is to do that".
By "cheating her of her money" I meant wasting her night gaming/banging her when she could have spent it earning money that she likely needs to support herself or her family. And how could you know if she really did it because "she liked you so much she gave it for free" or she was hoping you'd still at least tip her or give her a present for the good times she showed you?
Anyway, I can't preach as I've also been known to visit whores a few times but that's just for getting off and when options for gaming were not available. I wouldn't do what Greek Kamaki did - solicit normal girls. Besides creepy and cock-blocking, that would be also simply unproductive.
(Note: This is not in response to the thread, as i haven't followed this conversation, but just the quoted posts.)
There are also some of us who are honest about experiences that typically happened when we were hammered, including shoring - that's not the same as advocating something.
The forum is a place to exchange information and tips, yeah, but many threads have also just become a place to share crazy, funny stories - much like you'd do sitting around a pub with your buddies. Some of you guys seem to lack the social intelligence to realize that what goes on in these instances is not an info drop but just guys having fun and shooting the shit.
If you tell your buddy a story at the pub about some hooker who begged you to fuck her in Thailand while you were dancing at some club and you were drunk so you obliged, is he going to think you're advocating it as a player practice? Of course not - he knows you're telling a story about a wild time you had in Thailand. Guys do this, guys have always done this, and guys will continue to do this. Some of us just so happen to have covered a lot more ground, slept a lot less, and have a lot more stories than others.
As far as the ego thing, it's not really about that for guys who've shored a lot. Often it's more about you'd rather a woman actually to desire you if you're going to have sex, and for many that's a matter of principle. And that you don't feel like supporting a practice like prostitution. That makes you a bad guy?
If you're going out every single night in a tourist area in southeast asia, a lot of whores are going to throw themselves at you. Many are off work already, and others are freelancing, which gives them a choice of doing what they want with their time. Not only do guys from this forum sometimes hook up with them, but almost every backpacker or tourist who has hit up a tourist bar in Thailand and happened to bring a piece of ass back to his room has most likely done a version of "shoring" or at least banged a broad that's been paid for her pussy at some time or another.
Normal girls in these places don't typically prowl tourist bars and hop right into bed with a white guy. I can't tell you how many guys have told me their story about the girl they met in place where pros hang out who happened to be the one single girl that wasn't there working (she also always happens to be an "8" or higher, while all the other girls were, coincidentally, 6s).
These guys shored, whether they knew it or not. Some of us are more aware of what really goes on and/or more honest about it. Nothing more, nothing less. Don't confuse people telling the truth about drunken debauchery as bragging or advocating. Sometimes it's honesty and to have a laugh.
Finally, as far as cheating whores out of $20, how is it cheating her out of it if you go out to have some beers in the same place everyone else goes out and some whore takes a liking to you and you tell her multiple times you don't pay and she says don't worry about it? Bad decision, sure, but that's not cheating her out of anything.
You have to realize that these sluts, many of whom are in the business because they enjoy the lifestyle and money rather than because they have no other options, get tired of banging old guys and clowns all the time. They see a guy that actually turns them on for once and are attracted to him, they already have some dough in their pocket, and so they just do what they want to do instead of going home with some guy for a paycheck. They may be whores, but they are young women who just want to have some fun as well.
Then you get the girls who go home with guys and then flip a script after sex and ask for money. I suppose a guy like you advocates "giving her a tip," as you implied. Great, so now you just encouraged this hooker that this is an acceptable practice. To hook up with men who aren't customers and then extort them? Sorry, but that's a scam anywhere in the world, and you're more of the problem than guys who shore if you truly believe that's an acceptable practice to support with your "tip."
Are shores a desirable place to focus your energy (assuming you're in Southeast Asia, where the topic most often comes up)? Maybe if you're in town for a few days because, again, you're probably doing it anyways without even realizing it. But certainly not if you live in these places - there are much more premium, more desirable options. If you're an alkie, you'll probably end up doing it a lot anyways because that's just how the nights unfold.
But personally, I have more respect for a guy who laughs off a shore and tells a good story than I do for some idiot who lies about or is clueless about the fact that he was doing the same exact thing. Because I've seen my share of that nonsense in my time here on the forum as well. Give me a real picture of the scene over hype any day of the week.
As for guys who haven't even been to the region, try putting your feet on the ground for a couple weeks before you act too high and mighty. We'll see how you fare.
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On the other hand, I have no doubt people who seem lame are just as lame in real life.
