[Catch 22]

Felt like this 21 year old at the bar was vibing me tonight, but then she asked me my age. I lied down to 30 (I'm 32), but things seemed to die down from there. For those of you gaming young ones, would you say to lie younger, like in my 20's? Or just say older and forget the ones like her that aren't down for the age difference?

[Nomad77]

Ask her how old she thinks you are then subtract two years from whatever she says unless it's over your real age.

[robreke]

so....I get this girls number the other day.

we text back and forth and she agrees to coffee next week. She's 18 and I'm over 40.

I referenced this in the 'text next" thread but she mentioned she doesn't want a relationship because she's only 18. she doesn't know my age but obviously knows I'm an older man.

I'm wondering how to approach the date/what to talk about on the date.....running kino....etc.

I usually pick up girls in their mid to late 20s....bring them for a drink to a semi nice bar/restaurant....go for a walk after a few drinks....and go for the kiss close. This is done at night.

So...I'm a little perplexed as how to do a coffee date with an 18 year old. I would like to get her to drink...but of course bringing her to a bar/restaurant is illegal.

should I still go for a night date...just make it a coffee /night date?

Would like ideas on mindset and logistical ideas for a date like this.

[Virtus]

bring some of those sealed airplane liquors. sealed so she knows you're not trying to roofie her.

you can ask her if she had irish coffee. then add Bayleys into her coffee.

then go to the park/beach, walk around, talk, change venue to somewhere else. drink some more / go get some juice or soda and mix alcohol into it. drive her to your house.

no fucking food
or appetizers

[Travesty]

(11-11-2014 10:02 PM)robreke Wrote:  

so....I get this girls number the other day.

we text back and forth and she agrees to coffee next week. She's 18 and I'm over 40.

I referenced this in the 'text next" thread but she mentioned she doesn't want a relationship because she's only 18. she doesn't know my age but obviously knows I'm an older man.

I'm wondering how to approach the date/what to talk about on the date.....running kino....etc.

I usually pick up girls in their mid to late 20s....bring them for a drink to a semi nice bar/restaurant....go for a walk after a few drinks....and go for the kiss close. This is done at night.

So...I'm a little perplexed as how to do a coffee date with an 18 year old. I would like to get her to drink...but of course bringing her to a bar/restaurant is illegal.

should I still go for a night date...just make it a coffee /night date?

Would like ideas on mindset and logistical ideas for a date like this.

Bring airplanes sealed liquor bottles 4 can easily fit between 2 pockets. That's two drinks each. Should be enough buzz to ask her home for a 3rd drink and listen to music.

The best venues to do this are:

1) Big bar venue like a billiard hall with lots of pool tables and dart boards so you can easily sneak off in a corner and pour in the airplane bottle as she watches you do it so she isn't freaked out.

2) A hotel lobby bar that is loungy. A hotel won't bother its perceived customers easily. Also can easily bounce her upstairs to a hotel room if need-be and raid the mini-bar.

Everytime I do it I just pour it in her drink after asking her to reach it across under the table we are sitting at whether it is a high table or booth. It makes us partners in crime. It's naughty she get turned on. Rub her inner thigh with your other hand when you pour in the drink.

[Travesty]

(11-07-2014 01:34 AM)Catch 22 Wrote:  

Felt like this 21 year old at the bar was vibing me tonight, but then she asked me my age. I lied down to 30 (I'm 32), but things seemed to die down from there. For those of you gaming young ones, would you say to lie younger, like in my 20's? Or just say older and forget the ones like her that aren't down for the age difference?

I will go past what Nomad says and what most guys say.

Lie as young as possible without a chance of getting called out. If you are going to lie you might as well go all out.

If you can get away with 27 say 27.

If you can wear a backward baseball hat, sneakers, clean shaven, with messy boyish hair and get away with 23 say 23.

If you are going down the player road of dating much younger girls you need to start practicing getting comfortable with lying about your age ASAP.

[robreke]

(11-11-2014 11:07 PM)calihunter Wrote:  

bring some of those sealed airplane liquors. sealed so she knows you're not trying to roofie her.

you can ask her if she had irish coffee. then add Bayleys into her coffee.

then go to the park/beach, walk around, talk, change venue to somewhere else. drink some more / go get some juice or soda and mix alcohol into it. drive her to your house.

no fucking food
or appetizers

I like the airplane alcohol idea. We were supposed to start off at a starbucks in the bookstore ...near where she works. Do you think this would be a good place to get coffee and spike the coffee...or bad idea to start at a coffee shop?

Also...I like the Irish coffee question but do you tell her/let her know..."hey I'm going to spike the coffee" (or whatever drink it is)? do they often object or freak out when you mention adding alcohol to her drinks?

I'm trying to think of some pool halls like Travesty suggests but none in the area I can really think of.

[Hector_St_Clare]

(11-11-2014 11:38 PM)robreke Wrote:  

(11-11-2014 11:07 PM)calihunter Wrote:  

bring some of those sealed airplane liquors. sealed so she knows you're not trying to roofie her.

you can ask her if she had irish coffee. then add Bayleys into her coffee.

then go to the park/beach, walk around, talk, change venue to somewhere else. drink some more / go get some juice or soda and mix alcohol into it. drive her to your house.

no fucking food
or appetizers

I like the airplane alcohol idea. We were supposed to start off at a starbucks in the bookstore ...near where she works. Do you think this would be a good place to get coffee and spike the coffee...or bad idea to start at a coffee shop?

Also...I like the Irish coffee question but do you tell her/let her know..."hey I'm going to spike the coffee" (or whatever drink it is)? do they often object or freak out when you mention adding alcohol to her drinks?

I'm trying to think of some pool halls like Travesty suggests but none in the area I can really think of.

Absolutely tell her. It's highly immoral and illegal to spike anyone's drink without their consent, not that you would.

It's also illegal of course to give her the alcohol since she's 18 (in this country), but it's only a misdemeanor and I don't think the law is usually enforced if nothing bad comes of it. So I wouldn't worry *too* much about that. Just make sure you do tell her though.

[enderilluminatus]

Tinder is amazing for this. I'm 26 but say I'm 21. Two teen bangs in the last month and a potential third on the way.

[SouthernCasanova]

Starbucks.

[General Stalin]

Not sure what country some of you dudes are in but here in the states I feel like trying to game teenagers when in your 30's or 40's is tough business. Shit I'm in my late 20's and some girls get scared off because of an 8-9 year gap. The "creepy" factor must be a tough wall to break through I imagine.

[Seamus]

I've had good luck with 19-20 year olds I meet online. I'm late 20's, for reference. I don't have a great apartment for immediately bouncing a girl back (no living room and a roommate), and now it's too cold for just hanging out in the park, so here are my go-to's:

1. Comedy clubs. I live in Greenwich village, and there are free comedy shows every night of the week it seems (although 2 drink minimum). Girls love the show, it's usually easy to get a pitcher of sangria for the table, and the material is almost always raunchy. You need to build some rapport before though, since there's not much time for talking inside.

2. Hookah bars. A little more edgy than just grabbing coffee, a lot of younger chicks seem to dig it. Have to deal with smoker's breath though.

3. Self-serve restaurants. There's one a couple of blocks from me that serves up cheap sandwiches and beer/wine. I order and pay while she grabs a seat, then bring it over to the table. Never been carded. This is my favorite option.

[Seamus]

(11-12-2014 03:36 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

Not sure what country some of you dudes are in but here in the states I feel like trying to game teenagers when in your 30's or 40's is tough business. Shit I'm in my late 20's and some girls get scared off because of an 8-9 year gap. The "creepy" factor must be a tough wall to break through I imagine.

I'm guessing you're in a smaller city. There's absolutely a cultural barrier against it in the U.S., but it's much smaller in NYC.

Also, I think it's that very barrier that gets some of these girls horny for older dudes in the first place. Forbidden fruit and all that. And if you can find them, they're often easier than girls in countries where age differences don't matter as much. Online game is key, since you can screen for these girls quickly.

Granted, I'm still in my (late) 20's. Gio seems to be cleaning up though and he's quite a bit older I think.

[Sturmgeist]

(11-12-2014 03:36 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

Not sure what country some of you dudes are in but here in the states I feel like trying to game teenagers when in your 30's or 40's is tough business. Shit I'm in my late 20's and some girls get scared off because of an 8-9 year gap. The "creepy" factor must be a tough wall to break through I imagine.

Having a hard time as well. I'm 31 and I get the "You're too old" from 18-20 year olds. Can't break through the resistance and I end up going back to 25-31 year olds.

[wandenreich]

(11-12-2014 03:56 PM)Seamus Wrote:  

I've had good luck with 19-20 year olds I meet online. I'm late 20's, for reference. I don't have a great apartment for immediately bouncing a girl back (no living room and a roommate), and now it's too cold for just hanging out in the park, so here are my go-to's:

1. Comedy clubs. I live in Greenwich village, and there are free comedy shows every night of the week it seems (although 2 drink minimum). Girls love the show, it's usually easy to get a pitcher of sangria for the table, and the material is almost always raunchy. You need to build some rapport before though, since there's not much time for talking inside.

2. Hookah bars. A little more edgy than just grabbing coffee, a lot of younger chicks seem to dig it. Have to deal with smoker's breath though.

3. Self-serve restaurants. There's one a couple of blocks from me that serves up cheap sandwiches and beer/wine. I order and pay while she grabs a seat, then bring it over to the table. Never been carded. This is my favorite option.

kudos man your logistic is air tight being located near NYU / tourist / nightlife spot.

i'm 27 but age has never been an issue for these young girls, albeit they are all from online. i guess age might be a problem if you're relying on cold approach.

they are also a lot more straightforward than older women i feel. no need to wine and dine and all of my 18 y.o. lays have just been coffee>park>chat>bang

haven't been able to figure out a way to meet now the weather is colder though so this list is perfect.

[Catch 22]

(11-11-2014 11:18 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 01:34 AM)Catch 22 Wrote:  

Felt like this 21 year old at the bar was vibing me tonight, but then she asked me my age. I lied down to 30 (I'm 32), but things seemed to die down from there. For those of you gaming young ones, would you say to lie younger, like in my 20's? Or just say older and forget the ones like her that aren't down for the age difference?

I will go past what Nomad says and what most guys say.

Lie as young as possible without a chance of getting called out. If you are going to lie you might as well go all out.

If you can get away with 27 say 27.

If you can wear a backward baseball hat, sneakers, clean shaven, with messy boyish hair and get away with 23 say 23.

If you are going down the player road of dating much younger girls you need to start practicing getting comfortable with lying about your age ASAP.

Interesting. My instinct was to own being older and play it up as a good thing.

[robreke]

Should you 'dress down' when you date a younger girl.....or, wear nice business casual ( or even a suit ) if that's you're usual thing?"

wondering if dressing "nice" or even suiting up would intimidate an 18 to 20 year old that you had a first date with....especially if you're 30+

[Travesty]

I am 29, when I go after 18-20 I show up looking like a college guy grad school guy.

I can look as young as 24 on a good day.

I can "own my age" when I am 39 lying that I am 30...

Milk it while you can.

Yes there are a small minority of chicks really into age gap and an older guy experience. I play the odds.

Why does Gio lie that he is 29? Good reason.

If you just want sex or a 2 month fuck buddy who cares.

[Catch 22]

For those of you who mentioned Seeking Arrangement and Whats My Price, I'm seeing a minimum investment of $60 for SA and $50 for WMP, just to hit these girls up. Those of you on there have found it worth the investment? Which is better for finding 18-21 we can bang for a cheap meal or some drinks?

[Fujiwara]

If I am in a bar and a girl asks my age, I will usually say I am 19 (though I'm nearly a decade older). Then have some of my drink while maintaining eye contact. Maybe I'll make a face or wince and make a comment about how it's "pretty strong!"

[Giovonny]

Update:

I no longer lie about my age.

Lying is no longer congruent with my personality.

Lying comes from fear that you are not good enough.

Now, I know I am good enough. I don't need to lie.

I will lose some girls but I will gain other girls.

I finally have a real "abundance mentality". Lying is a symptom is a "scarcity mentality".

---

I used to lie because 90% of the girls I interacted with, I would never see again.

Now, when I interact with a girl, there is a decent chance that we will be seeing each other again.

I don't need to lie.

I can get college girls with the truth.

It's a liberating feeling!

[AntiTrace]

Gio, how are the reactions from the girls when they find out your real age

[trainwreck]

Coffee shops, book shops, malls... all great places to not just meet an 18-20yo but just in general LTR-worthy chicks. I have a full grown beard and I'm in my mid 20's.. people still guess me at about 30+... and I'm currently banging girls 10 years my senior without lying (I'm in EE). Lying makes absolutely no sense as it's basically you already supplicating to her - if she thinks you're too old... well, have you seen how 16-20yo guys look like lately? Man, even I at that age had maybe slept with 2 girls. Girl, if you think I'm too old... good luck banging those 18yo guys with no status, world knowledge or money.

I don't think the girls who like older guys are in the minority - rather the opposite. When I figure out that they are 16-20, I usually make a joke about how I'm SOOO old and should be standing there with my walking aid. 99% of the girls ask my age, I tell them the truth and I get "Thats not old!!!" back. We'll see how it is when I'm mid 30's.

[draketton]

(12-15-2014 07:27 PM)trainwreck Wrote:  

I have a full grown beard and I'm in my mid 20's.. people still guess me at about 30+... and I'm currently banging girls 10 years my senior without lying (I'm in EE).

you mean "10 years my junior" right

[trainwreck]

(12-15-2014 09:04 PM)draketton Wrote:  

(12-15-2014 07:27 PM)trainwreck Wrote:  

I have a full grown beard and I'm in my mid 20's.. people still guess me at about 30+... and I'm currently banging girls 10 years my senior without lying (I'm in EE).

you mean "10 years my junior" right

whoops, yes. and to clarify, I'm 26, 27 in a few weeks