[Philosopher]

a Russian chick who is a former fuck buddy (consider her a 7.5 at her best) with whom I was on a two-week vacation last year forgot her hair curler last time. Chatted with her on an off, at one point she deleted her viber, no contact for a month and than she sends me an email. After some back and forth, offered to take a vacation to a neutral country.


Her: Flights are too expensive
Me: Got you covered, I saw a round trip for $1200
Her: OMG, that's more than my entire salary. Why do we need to take a vacation together anyway?

Considering writing: to return the hair curler of course)

[Jozi]

(12-15-2018 08:44 AM)Philosopher Wrote:  

a Russian chick who is a former fuck buddy (consider her a 7.5 at her best) with whom I was on a two-week vacation last year forgot her hair curler last time. Chatted with her on an off, at one point she deleted her viber, no contact for a month and than she sends me an email. After some back and forth, offered to take a vacation to a neutral country.


Her: Flights are too expensive
Me: Got you covered, I saw a round trip for $1200
Her: OMG, that's more than my entire salary. Why do we need to take a vacation together anyway?

Considering writing: to return the hair curler of course)

Why do you want to take a vacation with her? You're paying for her tickets and she still isn't even that interested. I don't know what you've said to her previously but seems like you have messed up game-wise in more ways than one. Your considered reply is cringe. The best answer is to not even reply at this point, and maybe some damage can be undone.

[Jozi]

I have a hotter than average match (8-9) with slutty pics on Tinder who opened me with: "Don't you seem like quite the womanizer . Hi!".

Curious what you guys would reply with (I have some pics with half naked chicks in them).

[Philosopher]

(12-15-2018 10:40 AM)Jozi Wrote:  

(12-15-2018 08:44 AM)Philosopher Wrote:  

a Russian chick who is a former fuck buddy (consider her a 7.5 at her best) with whom I was on a two-week vacation last year forgot her hair curler last time. Chatted with her on an off, at one point she deleted her viber, no contact for a month and than she sends me an email. After some back and forth, offered to take a vacation to a neutral country.


Her: Flights are too expensive
Me: Got you covered, I saw a round trip for $1200
Her: OMG, that's more than my entire salary. Why do we need to take a vacation together anyway?

Considering writing: to return the hair curler of course)

Why do you want to take a vacation with her? You're paying for her tickets and she still isn't even that interested. I don't know what you've said to her previously but seems like you have messed up game-wise in more ways than one. Your considered reply is cringe. The best answer is to not even reply at this point, and maybe some damage can be undone.

Want to take a vacation with her since
a) already have it approved
b) warm up from the cold in the tropics
c) fuck her as much as possible in those 7 days.

I had two previous prospects who I was planning on going with but they could not get the time off. May have been too aloof with the chick in question in the summer. At one point, did not write her for a week as was on an expedition with no phone coverage. She paid for her plane ticket last time so she definitely lost interest.

But yes, strongly considering the alternative of just taking a small South American trip solo.

[Jozi]

(12-15-2018 10:51 AM)Philosopher Wrote:  

Want to take a vacation with her since
a) already have it approved
b) warm up from the cold in the tropics
c) fuck her as much as possible in those 7 days.

I had two previous prospects who I was planning on going with but they could not get the time off. May have been too aloof with the chick in question in the summer. At one point, did not write her for a week as was on an expedition with no phone coverage.

But yes, strongly considering the alternative of just taking a small South American trip solo.

Alright. I would be honest with her. Tell her that you want her to tag along because a.) You need some sun and b.) You don't want to spend time chasing chicks during the vacation so prefer to have one with you that you can unload your semen into. You asked her first because you enjoyed the last trip you guys took together. "But if you're not interested it's cool, then have a good life".

Honesty is always the best. I have never read a single book on Game but I watched a 1 hour clip with David X many many years ago. I adopted his full on honesty style and I've never had a problem with girls since.

[Jozi]

(12-15-2018 10:43 AM)Jozi Wrote:  

I have a hotter than average match (8-9) with slutty pics on Tinder who opened me with: "Don't you seem like quite the womanizer . Hi!".

Curious what you guys would reply with (I have some pics with half naked chicks in them).

I decided to respond with "Only when my nuts are aching and I don't have anything better to do" and then "I guess you're in luck tho, by the time I get back in town I'm betting that's precisely the situation I'm gonna be in".

[Philosopher]

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Alright. I would be honest with her. Tell her that you want her to tag along because a.) You need some sun and b.) You don't want to spend time chasing chicks during the vacation so prefer to have one with you that you can unload your semen into. You asked her first because you enjoyed the last trip you guys took together. "But if you're not interested it's cool, then have a good life".

Honesty is always the best. I have never read a single book on Game but I watched a 1 hour clip with David X many many years ago. I adopted his full on honesty style and I've never had a problem with girls since.

Dang, I see the appeal of being honest. Will check out David X. Saying b. that "I don't want to chase other chicks" seems a little dicey. The idea that a man chases chicks devalues them in a girls eyes as a high value man has chicks chasing him.

[Jozi]

(12-15-2018 11:29 AM)Philosopher Wrote:  

Dang, I see the appeal of being honest. Will check out David X. Saying b. that "I don't want to chase other chicks" seems a little dicey. The idea that a man chases chicks devalues them in a girls eyes as a high value man has chicks chasing him.

Yeah you don't have to word it like that. Just laying out the general idea. A better wording might be something like: "Of course we don't have to travel together. I am travelling regardless cause I need to get away for a bit and recharge. I don't wanna spend time finding and meeting up with local women so thought I'd invite one I know already to tag along. I enjoyed our last vacation together and you emailed me out of the blue, so thought "why not just invite 'her name"? No biggie if you don't want though, I'll invite someone else. Cheers"

[Philosopher]

(12-15-2018 01:31 PM)Jozi Wrote:  

(12-15-2018 11:29 AM)Philosopher Wrote:  

Dang, I see the appeal of being honest. Will check out David X. Saying b. that "I don't want to chase other chicks" seems a little dicey. The idea that a man chases chicks devalues them in a girls eyes as a high value man has chicks chasing him.

Yeah you don't have to word it like that. Just laying out the general idea. A better wording might be something like: "Of course we don't have to travel together. I am travelling regardless cause I need to get away for a bit and recharge. I don't wanna spend time finding and meeting up with local women so thought I'd invite one I know already to tag along. I enjoyed our last vacation together and you emailed me out of the blue, so thought "why not just invite 'her name"? No biggie if you don't want though, I'll invite someone else. Cheers"

Alright, will give it a try. Regarding being called a "Womanizer)" I would reply with "What kind of trouble are you up to?" completely ignoring her frame and taking the conversation into logistics of getting a meetup.

[Zoso]

(12-15-2018 08:44 AM)Philosopher Wrote:  

a Russian chick who is a former fuck buddy (consider her a 7.5 at her best) with whom I was on a two-week vacation last year forgot her hair curler last time. Chatted with her on an off, at one point she deleted her viber, no contact for a month and than she sends me an email. After some back and forth, offered to take a vacation to a neutral country.


Her: Flights are too expensive
Me: Got you covered, I saw a round trip for $1200
Her: OMG, that's more than my entire salary. Why do we need to take a vacation together anyway?

Considering writing: to return the hair curler of course)

Besides texts, don't you think buying her flights is too corny?

I think she could react as girls react to expensive dates or that they could think you worship them too much.

I was having a similar issue. A girl I knew in Iquitos invited me to join her in her trip to Brazil. Too expensive for me and if I did it, it could seem I'm too submitted to her. This German girl is one of the most beautiful I've been able to meet, but I had to restrain myself

[Bizet]

So I just received a random text from a girl I daygame number closed two months ago. This girl never replied to my first text, so I just forgot about her and moved on. Anyway she just messaged me and said:

"Stop watching RSD."

Haha.

I'm probably just going to ignore this, unless somebody can think of a good response.

[Trent W.]

(12-16-2018 05:55 AM)Bizet Wrote:  

So I just received a random text from a girl I daygame number closed two months ago. This girl never replied to my first text, so I just forgot about her and moved on. Anyway she just messaged me and said:

"Stop watching RSD."

Haha.

I'm probably just going to ignore this, unless somebody can think of a good response.

"I'm more into Roosh nowadays"

[Jozi]

(12-16-2018 05:55 AM)Bizet Wrote:  

"Stop watching RSD."

Haha.

I'm probably just going to ignore this, unless somebody can think of a good response.

"What is RSD?"

[Trent W.]

(12-14-2018 01:53 PM)Yyy9898 Wrote:  

Well hello this is my first post
I'll post the text as cut paste from messenger all advice is welcomed
I tried to make a move after I showed interest in her but she wasn't there when I went to meet her in person.
Later on I I got tried of playing around tried direct game which backfired tried to fix it with indirect game basically I ruined it all.
Any advice on whether I should talk with her again (that I have a chance to fix this) or just forget it since it's a lost cause?



Hello! I was dancing sorry...
Her About the math.. I'm really disappointed with myself
Dancing
I didn't know you dance
Well,That's new
Her Yes folklore dancing
For good luck?
Folklore dancing in Bulgarian is usually when they pick roses
But don't be disappointed or anything. I am sure u did alright
Yes but there's more than roses it's really interesting if you watch the figures which are made while dancers make the exact dance

I'm not sure about the math I didn't realize how much time I need for some of the examples

R u taking a dance class?

Yes
I dance for about 15 years
Do they have any Spanish dance lessons?
No but I know where you can go for Spanish dance
I just have to ask one friend
Is Bulgarian your favorite?
Yeees.
But
I also really like Georgian dances
They're reaaaaally beautiful

Tell me are there any dances for duos?
I never tried to improve my dancing.

There are number of places for Latino music dance in pairs round Sofia
Like "Latino force"

I will check it out.
But you seem to be more experienced

They're good
I haven't been to Latino dances
But my family is addicted to them
So I know a few steps
Girls who are dedicated are really rare
U r full of surprises
But you seemed kinda of timid at first
Really?? I think I'm really boring and stupid person to be honest
Yeah sometimes I can't talk In other time I can't stop talking

Yeah I know I always try to direct the conversation to find out more about you

But you always end up talking with me about Yana
I'm sure you just worry too much

Exactly
See ! you know a lot about me
I don't know why but I'm like bomb everything around me is moving
And I can't just sit in one place

That's not bad at all
But sometimes I'm like destroyed and just can't talk
You're like a midnight owl sometimes restless others too hyperactive.
I don't think you realize that this is a wonderful trait you've got
Sometimes you're chill
Everybody gets the urge to relax every now and then
And it's nice to share these moments
I criticise myself a lot and I can't even understand things that everyone have been always telling me
They just don't understand you well enough


Yes.. maybe you're right and I'm really happy that you're thinking that
I know how you feel sometimes my ego controls me too.

But we grow stronger
It reflects on everything from trying to dance for the first time to speaking with a native a couple of words

But it's the joy that comes out of sharing it with others that is not easily forgotten.

Beautiful words !
Like you're reading a part of my mind
Don't show that side of mine to anyone
Keep it a secret
I promise
It will be between you and me
tell me how's your schedule like on Sunday?

On Sunday hmm I will be working at the morning after that I will be at my last school cause there'll be a festival and the evening.. I'm working again unfortunately this Sunday my schedule is full

You look like you've got too much on your plate.
When's your festival?
Text me the details and I'll see when is a suitable time

It's from 12 pm to about 3 pm in the afternoon but I will be helping and I'm not sure if I will have the chance to walk around the festival with you but if you want I can offer you something different .. I have a concert on Wednesday (19.12) I will be dancing if you want to come I will send you the location

Ok we'll talk tomorrow.I gotta sleep.I slept late yesterday.
See you tomorrow!


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New day she flaked I panicked and shit spiralled out of control.

Hey,I'm gonna go ahead.I'm late.
I'll text you later
Okay
I missed call her. I worried I'm losing attraction.
What's up
I left too today without talking with you.
Don't worry we can chat now or we can talk on Monday
I hope I didn't give a bad first impression
Of course no
Don't worry



I'm too busy I had to leave my friends then say hello to others from the embassy. I meet them only on Friday.all of that had to be done before going to deliver some papers to a friend of my father.
Now I have to go half way across Sofia to meet a second friend.
But nevermind that We should make up some time to meet?
Okay but it have to be after these week cause I'm really busy
It's nice sharing your thoughts with someone without being stressed

I will be out of Sofia after some time.
Yeah
I'll go with a my friend to pleben next week to pickup his Turkish gf.
I still want to see you before that
But why you want to see me out I mean we can chat I just can't go out in the next two weeks cause I'm really busy and I can't find free time
Cause I'm happy to have found someonevwho is different than anybody else I meet in the last 2 months
And you're the first with an actually genuinely nice character.

I'm glad to hear that I just can't do it this week if you want after new year
Ok Best of luck in the festival
Thank you!! Have a great time in Pleben!


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This is where I regret every word I said and honestly if you're still reading by now. thanks.that girl was the first girl I feel in love with and if you know a way to salvage this situation then I am seriously all ears.

But you have to send me a picture of yourself
I want to see your dance in that festival.
I will post a picture on my Facebook account

It’d be cool to see something else
But I'm don't think you're the type for it.

What do you mean

I fall in love with beautiful photos and you seem to be an excellent photographer
I want you to show me how good you are.
I don't mind seeing your playful side?

I'm not that kind of person sorry

No I never meant that
I'm not talking about that
You actually think that I'm a dick

No I don't
I thought you were a friend
I'm just working at the moment
I can't pay attention to my phone
I'm looking for someone to have a serious connection with.
A deep conversation.Not a fuck and dump
I understand but why with me I think Martin is smarter than me and he's a boy.. I may not understand some things like if you're in love with a girl.. we can chat but unfortunately I can't chat 24/7
I have a lot of problems to deal with

Ok do you have a bf?
And wait.. what about your friends form today? Can you talk with them or they're not okay for talking this things
At the moment no I'm dealing with my ex

Seriously.So is my gf

Wait what?
I thought we're talking about stuff that doesn't matter
I just can't understand you
I just wanna start by being friends.do you still have feelings for your ex?
It's a secret
You never had feelings to another guy after him?
I don't care if you think Martin is smarter
Your a smart girl.I want you to tell me
What?
I wanna know are you open for a relationship?
And if you're gonna think about it then just forget it.

No
Ok
Then it's best that we stay friends.



Thanks for reading help get her back and not repeat this mistake again.
Thanks

I started reading your post but didn't finish. Don't take any offense in that, you have to keep your posts well formatted if you want people to read through them. I couldn't even be sure which part was you texting and which was you asking the forum. It also helps to keep your posts as short and concise as possible.

However I skimmed through it and I saw the same problem most guys have who are either new to this or are very much into a girl and forget some basics. You are over-invested and you chit chat without showing intent. Equals friend zone. Plus you ask about her ex?

Unless I've misunderstood, I'd say head for other waters. If she has any interest left in her about you, she will only show it after you neglect her.

[Zoso]

(12-16-2018 06:19 AM)Jozi Wrote:  

(12-16-2018 05:55 AM)Bizet Wrote:  

"Stop watching RSD."

Haha.

I'm probably just going to ignore this, unless somebody can think of a good response.

"What is RSD?"

A group of PUAs. Search it on Youtube, many videos there.

[Philosopher]

(12-16-2018 02:08 AM)Zoso Wrote:  

(12-15-2018 08:44 AM)Philosopher Wrote:  

a Russian chick who is a former fuck buddy (consider her a 7.5 at her best) with whom I was on a two-week vacation last year forgot her hair curler last time. Chatted with her on an off, at one point she deleted her viber, no contact for a month and than she sends me an email. After some back and forth, offered to take a vacation to a neutral country.


Her: Flights are too expensive
Me: Got you covered, I saw a round trip for $1200
Her: OMG, that's more than my entire salary. Why do we need to take a vacation together anyway?

Considering writing: to return the hair curler of course)

Besides texts, don't you think buying her flights is too corny?

I think she could react as girls react to expensive dates or that they could think you worship them too much.

I was having a similar issue. A girl I knew in Iquitos invited me to join her in her trip to Brazil. Too expensive for me and if I did it, it could seem I'm too submitted to her. This German girl is one of the most beautiful I've been able to meet, but I had to restrain myself

Admit to being cheesy and thinking with my small head and making my wallet hate me. Letting that holiday free time and thirst get to me. Agree that it is probably for the best to restrain myself like you did.

[Philosopher]

(12-15-2018 01:31 PM)Jozi Wrote:  

(12-15-2018 11:29 AM)Philosopher Wrote:  

Dang, I see the appeal of being honest. Will check out David X. Saying b. that "I don't want to chase other chicks" seems a little dicey. The idea that a man chases chicks devalues them in a girls eyes as a high value man has chicks chasing him.

Yeah you don't have to word it like that. Just laying out the general idea. A better wording might be something like: "Of course we don't have to travel together. I am travelling regardless cause I need to get away for a bit and recharge. I don't wanna spend time finding and meeting up with local women so thought I'd invite one I know already to tag along. I enjoyed our last vacation together and you emailed me out of the blue, so thought "why not just invite 'her name"? No biggie if you don't want though, I'll invite someone else. Cheers"

Did what you suggested, she replied with. "Too much paperwork involved and I am afraid to travel alone for such a long distance." (last year's trip was closer to her and further for me as I had 2 weeks)
She finished with "We are not doing very well at developing a relationship, by communicating only long-distance."

My wallet is thanking her)))

[Jozi]

(12-16-2018 11:11 AM)Zoso Wrote:  

A group of PUAs. Search it on Youtube, many videos there.

Yes I know, I meant that's what he should text her back. Haha.

[Jozi]

(12-16-2018 12:18 PM)Philosopher Wrote:  

Did what you suggested, she replied with. "Too much paperwork involved and I am afraid to travel alone for such a long distance." (last year's trip was closer to her and further for me as I had 2 weeks)
She finished with "We are not doing very well at developing a relationship, by communicating only long-distance."

My wallet is thanking her)))

Alright. I think she would've responded something similar no matter what you would've said. Onto the next one!

[bk19xsa]

Got a match on Happn with a 25 yr old 7.5 Asian mid of last month.

Didn't text her right away but waited couple of days and texted her the following Sunday, Nov 18th (knowing how girls are more free to read messages on Sundays):
Me: 'Hey, enjoying the rainy Sunday'

No response. I know, I know that was a lame text but it was raining and bitch hadn't put anything on her profile except Pics. Few of her pics were slutty ass pics. And I was busy doing Assignments so didn't have time to think of something creative to say.

Anyways, I chose to forget about this girl untill last week when Happn reminded me again that she crossed paths with me.

So I messaged her again 3 days ago:
Me: 'you keep crossing my path...howcome we haven't collided into each other yet lol'

One day later(Friday) her reply:
Her: 'Let’s do it'

After few hours I replied
Me: 'Cool. Lets bump at *cool bar*, *location* tomm around 4PM'

Tomm was yesterday (Saturday) but she never got back to me.

Her body is tight and she has a lovely ass from the pics. I have been only banging my main girl for a month and half now and main girl is away for a week long trip. So I would love to bang this chick and she seems nearby.

What do you guys think went wrong in my asking her to meet me?
Also, what should be a reignite text and when should I sent it?

[Zoso]

(12-16-2018 02:46 PM)Jozi Wrote:  

(12-16-2018 11:11 AM)Zoso Wrote:  

A group of PUAs. Search it on Youtube, many videos there.

Yes I know, I meant that's what he should text her back. Haha.

Oh haha i got it now. It seems it works so.

[asianirish1]

@Yyy9 Cut your losses and read the forum

[Jozi]

(12-16-2018 05:09 PM)bk19xsa Wrote:  

So I messaged her again 3 days ago:
Me: 'you keep crossing my path...howcome we haven't collided into each other yet lol'

One day later(Friday) her reply:
Her: 'Let’s do it'

After few hours I replied
Me: 'Cool. Lets bump at *cool bar*, *location* tomm around 4PM'

Tomm was yesterday (Saturday) but she never got back to me.

Her body is tight and she has a lovely ass from the pics. I have been only banging my main girl for a month and half now and main girl is away for a week long trip. So I would love to bang this chick and she seems nearby.

What do you guys think went wrong in my asking her to meet me?
Also, what should be a reignite text and when should I sent it?

Why invite her to a bar and why the next day? After she said "Let's do it" you should've given her your address and asked: "When will you be here?"

Girls have short attention spans. When they are ready to meet they want to do it now, or they'll find someone else.

[Philosopher]

Agree with Jozi and Saturdays are the worst dates for dates as she probably has 5 different offers come in by the end of the week.

[RespectivePerspective]

Me: Come over.

Her: I will when i’m out of work. What will we be doing? I kind of feel like staying indoors.

Me: Good, because it’s Hitler documentary night. It’s the one on Eva Braun. I need you to see how a loyal woman behaves.

Her: lol ok, i’m out of work now.

Me: I left the door to the führerbunker unlocked, so just come on in.

Her: jawohl mein führer!