Have you ever got a salsa bang?
08-29-2013, 03:13 AM
I’m becoming more acquainted with several ideas of game referred to in this forum. Nonetheless, I would say that in my more than 11 years of salsa dancing, I had been using salsa dance as a means to game girls and bang them.
My recent exposure to this forum has gotten me thinking that I need to figure out various ways to better incorporate game techniques into my salsa dancing. I do get quite a kick out of salsa dancing and the power of dancing with more than 20 girls in a 3 hour period – or even sometimes more than 40 girls in a 5 hour period. Recently, I have been thinking that just dancing in itself has not really been helping to get bangs because I had not been paying attention to following through, and sometimes leaving the club physically exhausted from several hours of dance… even with conflicting thoughts about whether it was fun or maybe if I should have followed up more with certain girls that I had met that evening.
Over the years, I had come to enjoying dance, and not necessarily pursuing the girls in the salsa dance scene. In this regard, frequently, I would not get their phone number or anything like that, and I would just expect to see them again at either another salsa venue or at the dance venue that I met them at some later unspecified time. In recent years, I have gone through periods that at least I obtain more phone numbers, but in recent years, I have not been getting as many bangs as I did when I started dancing. I attribute some of these changed dynamics to my age, and therefore, I need to play the game a little bit differently in my early 40s as compared to when I was in my early 30s.
I agree with a lot of the points made in this thread, and I think that guys are going to have their various dance experiences and some of those experiences definitely shed light on the dynamics of the salsa dance scene and how it can vary from location to location and still have some commonality (even international commonality).
For me, girl to guy ratio frequently has a considerable effect on how receptive girls are (or the extent to which they are bitchy), and good ratios can make for much better experiences. I mostly dance in southern California in the LA area, but I have salsa danced in DC, Cincinnati, Miami, Jacksonville, Minneapolis, Denver, Las Vegas, San Francisco, Tijuana, Puerto Vallarta. Atmospheres can make a difference, and believe it or not, I found DC women in the salsa scene to be more approachable than LA women in the salsa scene. However, frequently, if I attend some kind of international dance event with a lot of international women, these environments can be very nice because the international girls can show considerable excitement to dance, and in that sense the dance can be fairly international. Also, from what I hear about certain international venues, the ratio of men to women will vary, and I imagine that ratio is going to be a factor no matter where you are – and also including a guy’s otherwise exotic factor in whatever area he is in.
As Samseau mentioned many of the posts in this thread seem to be aimed at what is like in the USA, which may not reflect as well when you are travelling in other locations. Personally, at this time, I cannot really comment on the international vibe, yet I am looking forward to some upcoming plans to travel internationally and of course that will mean that I am going to want to incorporate my dance skills into my communication with local girls in those travels.
For the reason of girl to guy ratios, I have frequently attempted to find dance locations that have a high girl to guy ratio, and this is especially more important when you are a beginner dancer (yet it does not hurt, for the reasons described above, even when your dance skills go up). Also, many times, dance locations that have salsa dance lessons at the beginning will usually have more beginner female salsa dancers in the beginning of the night, and a couple hours into the night, the beginner female dancers go home and frequently, the dance ratios will become worse.. especially after about midnight (though this will vary depending on the venue – because sometimes you just get lucky and there is some big ass girl gathering party which improves the girl/guy ratio for the whole place).
When I began learning salsa dancing, I spent at least three days a week in learning (taking classes and going to clubs that had dance classes) (yes, I took some classes from Alex Da Silva, even though now he is locked up). In the beginning, I was pretty bad in several ways regarding physically coordinating movements to the beat, but my movements, style and fluidity improved with practice and certainly some people pick up more quickly than others and some people incorporate various kinds of styles into their dance. As a beginner, my goal was to persist in learning salsa, and later, I incorporated chachacha, merengue and bachata (but without really formally learning those other genres).
Frequently, when I was a beginner dancer, I would only go to the club for the lesson, and then I would dance with as many girls as I could until the beginners were gone. Then I would go home, and save my energy for the next event (of course I had to work also, so there are only so many hours in the day). In the beginning, I was focused in getting better at dance, and then I would go home once the momentum was lost. As I got better, I was able to stay at dance events later and later, and it became easier and easier to dance with a larger variety and hotter girls, and I was no longer relocated to dancing only with beginner dancers because in the beginning mostly only beginner dancers would dance with me and possibly only one or two songs – and that would cause me to frequently rotate venues in order to constantly be exposed to more girls. After a while, the new girls would not necessarily realize that I did not know what I was doing, and part of the deal would be to inspire confidence, so the girl would come to believe that I knew what I was doing (whether true or not).
Probably for the purposes of game, you may not really need to become too advanced in your dancing skills in order to use salsa to pick-up chicks. Even in LA with some difficult women, frequently, there will be events that have several girls that would be easy to get their numbers and to close (for guys at various levels of dance and/or game), most likely getting the bang on a separate date, as many have indicated, and sometimes, being able to close that same night. Getting bangs depends on the focus of the guy, because if they guy wants to get SNL, they are possible if you focus on the beginner girls, and frequently, I find there are beginner girls at various dance venues. And, if you otherwise know, game you will be better able to spot and take advantage of the most opportune situations – no matter what your dance level.
Sorry this post ended up being a little bit longer than I anticipated.
