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Girls that bring their friends along on the first date
Never let this even happen. The last time it happened to me, the girl didn't even bring her friend along, but rather ran into them at the club, which I thought was billshit and planned out since she was visiting from Israel in Miami. What a coincidence to run into your Israeli friends in Miami. I ended up parting ways with her and meeting another girl. The girl I met was set on me introducing her to my "friends". I told her no but she introduced herself. The Israeli girl was pissed, but that's what she gets for being a twat.
I had a Ukrainian girl ask about this, and I shut it down. She agreed to come by herself, but when I went for the makeout he wouldn't even kiss.
I think for the most part, if you are trying to use your time efficiently, as soon as the girl asks if she can bring friends she should immediately be "nexted." You're wasting your time.
How to enforce it... haha.. .
Her: "Is it OK if I bring my friend?"
You: OMG, I just realized -I- have to meet MY friend tonight! Sorry we'll have to reschedule. I'm late already.......
Click.
I think for the most part, if you are trying to use your time efficiently, as soon as the girl asks if she can bring friends she should immediately be "nexted." You're wasting your time.
How to enforce it... haha.. .
Her: "Is it OK if I bring my friend?"
You: OMG, I just realized -I- have to meet MY friend tonight! Sorry we'll have to reschedule. I'm late already.......
Click.
Happened to me one time. Thought it would be fine. Her friends didn't like me, even though she did, and I lost a guaranteed bang because of that. Never again.
Had another girl later on try it. I told her "No". Ended up meeting her the very next day, and we fooled around.
Had another girl later on try it. I told her "No". Ended up meeting her the very next day, and we fooled around.
It has happened a couple of times in SEA to me too. Specially pinay girls.
Last week this thai girl asked me if she could bring a friend. I just answered "no bodyguards". She laughed, came alone and banged.
I think in SEA you shouldn´t next them only because they try this. Make it clear they have to come alone. If they still don´t accept, then it´s time to next them.
But if they don´t ask you for permision and come with a friend without telling you, that´s a different story. She doesn´t even respect you.
Last week this thai girl asked me if she could bring a friend. I just answered "no bodyguards". She laughed, came alone and banged.
I think in SEA you shouldn´t next them only because they try this. Make it clear they have to come alone. If they still don´t accept, then it´s time to next them.
But if they don´t ask you for permision and come with a friend without telling you, that´s a different story. She doesn´t even respect you.
Cultures may vary but if a girl is on a dae with me she knows at least subconsciously whats up. Never had this happen but would not put up with it. Id tell her to call me when she wants to "have a real date, not playtime with friends" it weeds out the ones who wuldnt bang anyway.
Quote: (06-15-2013 12:33 AM)Timoteo Wrote:
Quote: (06-14-2013 10:59 PM)FourToTheFloor Wrote:
I recently had a girl who gave me her number of POF say:
"I've never met anyone off of here before, is it OK if I bring a friend."
Me: "Thats pretty weird. I can't imagine that being anything but awkward."
Her: "You bring a friend so it isn't."
Me: "No offense, but this isn't middle school."
Anyways, I lost that one. Too bad, she was pretty hot.
It's better to pass on this than to do some bullshit double date. You did the right thing. If she was uncomfortable meeting someone off the internet, why the fuck is she on the internet, and why agree to a date? You could easily just pick a location that made her comfortable. As long as you're out in public, and she's not going back to your place, or you to hers, what's the worry?
I agree. If she was going to tag her friend along, I dont think anything would've come out of it anyway. You did the right thing. Why spend money, time and energy on something you know wasn't going anywhere?
Quote: (06-15-2013 02:39 PM)anamericaninbangkok Wrote:
Here in Thailand bringing a friend along for the first date or two is not considered unusual. Either this or the date is with a group of people.
I wonder if China is the same way? I met a girl from Shanghai online (we are in NYC). She planned to go out with friends, then meet me at 9p for a drink. at 9:02p I get
"Hey do u want to go to karaok (sic) with me and friends now? They invited me for karaok!"
I scratched, I already had the logistics worked out. Plus I'm not a singer, I can't get any value (other than comic) from a karaoke date.
Quote: (06-16-2013 02:15 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:
I had a Ukrainian girl ask about this, and I shut it down. She agreed to come by herself, but when I went for the makeout he wouldn't even kiss.
I think for the most part, if you are trying to use your time efficiently, as soon as the girl asks if she can bring friends she should immediately be "nexted." You're wasting your time.
How to enforce it... haha.. .
Her: "Is it OK if I bring my friend?"
You: OMG, I just realized -I- have to meet MY friend tonight! Sorry we'll have to reschedule. I'm late already.......
Click.
IKE - is this a Ukranian thing? I had a girl try that crap on me by asking if I can "handle her and her friend". I flipped the script.
Quote: (06-14-2013 08:46 PM)Timoteo Wrote:
I've never had this happen, but if it did, we're talking about the shortest date in recorded history. I don't do the chaperone thing. If she's that worried about being alone with me, she shouldn't have agreed to go out with me. And there won't be a reschedule either.
Agree 100%. I have had this happen on one occasion and I don't wish for it to happen again. Bitch got all snarky and trying to show off. It happened years ago though, pre-game, but I know girls, and their behaviour with friends doesn't change, regardless of how you are.
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. - H L Mencken
Quote: (06-16-2013 02:13 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:
Quote: (06-15-2013 02:39 PM)anamericaninbangkok Wrote:
Here in Thailand bringing a friend along for the first date or two is not considered unusual. Either this or the date is with a group of people.
Do you feel its due to "CSI paranoia" or just a more collective view of socializing?
It has to do with the culture. Sort of like the old chaperoning method of dating. It keeps a horny chick from getting laid on the first date and forces most men to be gentlemen. This is becoming less and less prevalent as Thai women are becoming more independent and open towards one-night stands.
When I first started dating my wife, we went out twice with a group of people before going out alone. We sat close together but there was no playing grab ass or anything of the sort. After one or two dates if a Thai woman refuses to go out with you alone, kick her to the curb. Chances are they're just looking for a free meal for their friend!
I had been meaning to read this thread just because I thought it sounded so weird and I'd never experienced anything like it but then it happened to me yesterday.
Backstory: Was out at an event on Wednesday night, chatted with a chick for a few minutes and got her number. She seemed very interested at the time and I probably should have pushed the interaction more then but I was tired and on my way home. Hit her up on Thursday to ask how her holiday was going blah blah blah, and set up drinks last night at 8:30. I hit her up around 1p yesterday to make sure she's still down since I've had a higher than normal flake rate the last couple of months. She said she wrecked her car on Friday and would need to re-schedule. In the event it was actually true, I didn't want to call her out on bullshitting me and lose any chance of a bang. Around 4:30p she says she can come meet me with a friend and was wondering if I had any single friends to bring along. I at least entertained the thought by asking if it was one of the girls she was with the night I met her (both were very attractive). When she said no, I said I'm good, have your girls night, and pushed meeting back to Tuesday night to which she gave a non-committal answer of "I'll let you know."
On to the next one. C'mon babe, you can't do without your grrrrrrrrrrls for an hour or two before hitting the scene on a Saturday night?
At best I thought it would mean me having to deal with one more potential cockblock. Someone above mentioned South American women pulling this sometimes, and she was a Latina, this could have been the situation he described. My conclusion is that a woman that is uncomfortable meeting you alone in a public place, and even worse, a woman that unexpectedly brings a third on a date should be sent walking immediately.
Backstory: Was out at an event on Wednesday night, chatted with a chick for a few minutes and got her number. She seemed very interested at the time and I probably should have pushed the interaction more then but I was tired and on my way home. Hit her up on Thursday to ask how her holiday was going blah blah blah, and set up drinks last night at 8:30. I hit her up around 1p yesterday to make sure she's still down since I've had a higher than normal flake rate the last couple of months. She said she wrecked her car on Friday and would need to re-schedule. In the event it was actually true, I didn't want to call her out on bullshitting me and lose any chance of a bang. Around 4:30p she says she can come meet me with a friend and was wondering if I had any single friends to bring along. I at least entertained the thought by asking if it was one of the girls she was with the night I met her (both were very attractive). When she said no, I said I'm good, have your girls night, and pushed meeting back to Tuesday night to which she gave a non-committal answer of "I'll let you know."
On to the next one. C'mon babe, you can't do without your grrrrrrrrrrls for an hour or two before hitting the scene on a Saturday night?
At best I thought it would mean me having to deal with one more potential cockblock. Someone above mentioned South American women pulling this sometimes, and she was a Latina, this could have been the situation he described. My conclusion is that a woman that is uncomfortable meeting you alone in a public place, and even worse, a woman that unexpectedly brings a third on a date should be sent walking immediately.
What is wrong with women today??!!
Just had this happen to me. She was texting me to say she was about to leave, then asked if her friend could come. This is a girl I've known socially for a long time, the evening if more of a night out than a date, which is probably why she asked about her friend. She also said she would make it up to me if her friend came. Sigh...
I caved in and said yes, OK. What a sap I am, but I'm assuming the sale and have some confidence that it won't stop me getting laid.
Just had this happen to me. She was texting me to say she was about to leave, then asked if her friend could come. This is a girl I've known socially for a long time, the evening if more of a night out than a date, which is probably why she asked about her friend. She also said she would make it up to me if her friend came. Sigh...
I caved in and said yes, OK. What a sap I am, but I'm assuming the sale and have some confidence that it won't stop me getting laid.
Assume the sale - threesome. Make it happen, update on the threesome thread. Go on with your bad self.
This shit used to happen to me in high school. It's a sign of low SMV at least here state side.
I haven't had it occur to me since freshmen year of college. Personally if a girl wants to "bring a friend" i say no. It's a one on one date. Not a free for all.
I haven't had it occur to me since freshmen year of college. Personally if a girl wants to "bring a friend" i say no. It's a one on one date. Not a free for all.
I respectfully disagree with most of the posts in this thread. First, if she is bringing a friend along, make sure that the friend will be the designated driver. This will allow both you and your date to drink as much as you want and will probably increase your chances. I understand that there are such things as taxis, but having the friend drive is much better in my opinion (no waiting, free, etc.).
There is something about my style and personality that causes girls' friends, (and less often her parents) to really talk me up to them and tell them that I'm good for them or that they should take me home with them, etc. The only time in my life that a girl's friends served to cockblock me or screw me over in this type of situation was this one time in Miami when a girl had these rough-looking anglo white girls, who were probably transplants from some shithole like Zanesville, with her. These girls really seemed to have it in for me for some reason and really didn't help me. My guess is that they were only "friends" with this girl, because that is the only way any guys would pay any attention to them. That was one time in my life.
Establish as good a rapport as possible with both the friend and your date. This is how threesomes happen. If a threesome doesn't happen, find out where the friend goes out (if you can't get her number. You have to be careful not to cockblock yourself with the date by trying to get the friend's number), then go there sometime by yourself on the right night.
I recently did this. The friend was the designated driver. They both really liked me. I know the friend really convinced my date to take me home and I ended up getting the notch. I don't have the friend's number, but I know where she goes out and I'll see if anything happens with her in the future.
There is something about my style and personality that causes girls' friends, (and less often her parents) to really talk me up to them and tell them that I'm good for them or that they should take me home with them, etc. The only time in my life that a girl's friends served to cockblock me or screw me over in this type of situation was this one time in Miami when a girl had these rough-looking anglo white girls, who were probably transplants from some shithole like Zanesville, with her. These girls really seemed to have it in for me for some reason and really didn't help me. My guess is that they were only "friends" with this girl, because that is the only way any guys would pay any attention to them. That was one time in my life.
Establish as good a rapport as possible with both the friend and your date. This is how threesomes happen. If a threesome doesn't happen, find out where the friend goes out (if you can't get her number. You have to be careful not to cockblock yourself with the date by trying to get the friend's number), then go there sometime by yourself on the right night.
I recently did this. The friend was the designated driver. They both really liked me. I know the friend really convinced my date to take me home and I ended up getting the notch. I don't have the friend's number, but I know where she goes out and I'll see if anything happens with her in the future.
I think that 'players in training' often see Game as a set of black and white rules, in a binary way.
It can sometimes be good fun being the solitary guy with a group of girls(2 or more).
Anyway, the friend was much hotter than my friend/date, wasn't single, didn't cockblock me(but I didn't try to isolate) and I wasn't going to get the bang anyway, not last night. Might do another time.
It can sometimes be good fun being the solitary guy with a group of girls(2 or more).
Anyway, the friend was much hotter than my friend/date, wasn't single, didn't cockblock me(but I didn't try to isolate) and I wasn't going to get the bang anyway, not last night. Might do another time.
This shit is happening to me on another level. Things would be vibing very well with girls I meet in activity/day game. When I escalate and ask her out she will always say something along the line of "let's get other in the group to come with us!"
Not sure if this means she is a lost cause, or she is actually interested but doesn't want to appear too eager too soon. Thoughts?
Not sure if this means she is a lost cause, or she is actually interested but doesn't want to appear too eager too soon. Thoughts?
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Quote: (10-11-2014 05:24 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:
This shit is happening to me on another level. Things would be vibing very well with girls I meet in activity/day game. When I escalate and ask her out she will always say something along the line of "let's get other in the group to come with us!"
Not sure if this means she is a lost cause, or she is actually interested but doesn't want to appear too eager too soon. Thoughts?
Last night was the first time it has ever happened to me. It caught me by surprise massively, especially as she asked just as she was leaving to meet me. I said no instantly which caught her by surprise too, and I explained I wanted to spend time with just her, she said she would make it up to me and I gave in like a chump.
Would also be interested to hear thoughts on this from experienced players.
Cultural thing, or she's just a bitch
Option A: Lose the phone number.
Option B: Tell her you are going to bring a girl too.
Worst case scenario, you tell your date they are lesbians.
Best case scenario, foursome.
Option A: Lose the phone number.
Option B: Tell her you are going to bring a girl too.
Worst case scenario, you tell your date they are lesbians.
Best case scenario, foursome.
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Actually, both of my LTRs have come from girls who brought friends on the "first date." I don't really see the big deal to be honest. Then again, I spend a lot of time in Latin America where social circles are important and this isn't out of the ordinary. In North America, I would shut this down, unless its a do something beforehand and "let's go to this show, I have some friends there after" kind of thing.
I think if you build up a rapport beforehand with some alone time, there is actually a better chance you might hit it. One, it takes some pressure off the "date." Two, you only really have to be neutral in the eyes of her friends to be given the green light.
I think if you build up a rapport beforehand with some alone time, there is actually a better chance you might hit it. One, it takes some pressure off the "date." Two, you only really have to be neutral in the eyes of her friends to be given the green light.
Quote: (10-11-2014 09:32 AM)Americas Wrote:
Actually, both of my LTRs have come from girls who brought friends on the "first date." I don't really see the big deal to be honest. Then again, I spend a lot of time in Latin America where social circles are important and this isn't out of the ordinary. In North America, I would shut this down, unless its a do something beforehand and "let's go to this show, I have some friends there after" kind of thing.
I think if you build up a rapport beforehand with some alone time, there is actually a better chance you might hit it. One, it takes some pressure off the "date." Two, you only really have to be neutral in the eyes of her friends to be given the green light.
I can definitely see this being a cultural thing. I'm curious if the "social vetting" is easier in latin countries than in America. I know in America girls that bring other girls along on the date are just massive cock blocks.
Quote: (10-11-2014 10:07 AM)frenchie Wrote:
I can definitely see this being a cultural thing. I'm curious if the "social vetting" is easier in latin countries than in America. I know in America girls that bring other girls along on the date are just massive cock blocks.
I do not get consistently cock blocked in Latin America like I have in the past in North America. In fact, the one Brazilian girl I ended up dating, her friend was acutally helpful in me getting her because at the time my Portuguese was pretty poor and she spoke a little bit of English.
I have been cock blocked in Mexico, but not the typical cock blocking that you think about. It was actually more of cock blocking by competition rather anything else. I had already had sex with this girl but went out to a fashion get together or some shit with like 4 of her girl friends. One of her friends was making extremely obvious and persistent passes at me and the girl I was dating got right pissed off. Basically her friend wanted a threesome or to have sex with me, but the girl I was dating wanted nothing of it. The girl I was dating ended up storming out in the morning and I had to put on pretty massive damage control with her to salvage it.
Other times I have penetrated mixed sets in Mexico and had a bit of a bidding war going between the girls in the set for me. It's not necessarily a cock block if you know how to play it but it's like a chaotic game of trying to beat out their friends for me and it can easily result in absolutely nothing happening because of it.
So there can be cock blocking by competition in Latin America (this happened to me a couple times in Colombia before as well), but I think for the most part, once I have made it obvious I have chosen one of them, they back off for the most part.
There is still that typical cock blocking you will see in clubs where you are trying to quickly hook up with a girl in a set and they don't trust you. But for the majority of my experiences, the girl friends are actually pretty chill and don't care whatsoever that you are trying to game their friend, they might actually actively help you even.
Hell, sometimes girls will entice their friends to hook up with me. On more than a few occasions once it was established that a girl was interested in me and it was mutual, they have tried to convince their friend to do something. Haha, one time one of her friends grabbed both me and the girl's heads and basically made us kiss in Brazil. This kind of thing isn't out of the norm in Latin American countries *especially* if the girl you are gaming hasn't been in a relationship for some time or just broke up with a guy.
I have also found that there isn't much cock blocking from guys either in mixed sets. In Brazil in particular, I have been approached by guys multiple times and been told that their friend wants to kiss me. This shit DOES NOT happen in North America. One time in Colombia a girl's cousin helped me translate whole conversations to the girl I was interested in, and these weren't small talk if you know what I mean. That being said, if there is a guy in the set that is interested in the girl you are gaming, all bets are off and he will try to fuck you over. However, either these guys are often beta; or it has already been established that this guy isn't getting the girl he is interested and therefore is just a friend.
But if you don't know how to deal with friends at all in Latin America you will miss many opportunities. They will bring them along on dates, they will make you come to their social gatherings, and they will want to meet your friends or acquaintances. It's just how it is down here, but that doesn't mean it's a negative thing.
Quote: (10-11-2014 08:55 AM)Gmac Wrote:
Cultural thing, or she's just a bitch
Option A: Lose the phone number.
Option B: Tell her you are going to bring a girl too.
Worst case scenario, you tell your date they are lesbians.
Best case scenario, foursome.
Side note: I was recently set up on a group date scenario where the girl I was ascribed to fuck, brought a total cunt with her who I think might have had dyke relations with her. The cunty dyke saw me as a threat to her bitch toy and did every possible thing to make sure we did not connect. 90% of the time I'm convinced it will not go well when another is in tow.
Valid response right there. Another option is if she doesn't ask and just shows up at the date with another person, let's say if she insists on driving to meet you there, almost completely ignore your date and start paying total attention to her friend and not her and see what happens.
This usually really stirs a turd, and ends totally in your favor, because the friend eats up your game and approves of you, or it pisses them both off bad. Might as well have fun with it even if it only lasts 20 minutes of negging insults.
Threesome, foursome, you never know until you try. Women are so twisted nowadays if your frame is bold that two women can't crack, they might both fuck you for having such a conquering control of them.
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