Guadalajara, Mexico - don't come here for the girls
05-17-2018, 08:34 PM
About me:
Mid 20, European, blond hair & blue eyes, fluent Spanish
Just right before my trip to Guadalajara (GDL) I've been to Lima and can therefore compare those places well with each other.
After a bit less than 3 weeks here my opinion about GDL:
To make it short, there is absolute no reason to come to GDL for girls. There are easily 100 other places I would recommend where girls are easier/more attractive/more sexual/more feminine/nicer than here. 20nation, a well respected member, gave GDL 8/10 for girls on his blog. Just to put this into perspective, if GDL is a 8/10, then Medellin and Lima are both 30/10.
General observations:
-GDL is highly americanised, especially in comparison to Lima. Radios and nightclubs play American pop music half the time. Almost everyone from bartenders, bouncers to girls speaks decent English. It goes so far that I would say you don't need Spanish over here (but don't call me on this!). Personality of girls is something I would imagine to encounter in California (more on this later). On the positive side, thanks to the NAFTA agreement, you can find many American products in supermarkets
-people are fat
-Products & services cost roughly the same as in Lima, Peru
-There is a good amount of money around
-People actually smile and laugh
-No tourists
-No noticeable pollution (I'm looking at you CDMX)
-The city is nice and very green
-There's not too much to see or to do. Rather boring place. No comparison to CDMX
-It's unpleasantly hot from April - July, but not as crazy hot as Cartagena, Madrid or Tokyo
-Alcohol is a big part of the culture. Not really a place for people who don't drink
Girls:
I've to say, I'm tremendously disappointed.
Lookwise, girls are roughly the same as in Lima. That means lots of poor, ugly girls and a few hot, upper class ones. Also like in Lima, you will encounter those in the same places. Ugly girls on the street and hot ones mainly through Nightlife or special zones such as the Centro Comercial Andares. There's a significant difference though. Girls in Lima are ugly but you won't notice them too much, they are almost invisible. Girls in GDL trend to be offensive ugly in a disturbing way. The combination of bad skin, bad posture, fat and tight clothes will make you aggressive at times. Let's talk personalities. Oh man, If I didn't know that I'm in Mexico, I would just guess that I must be in California (never been). Rude, loud, drunk, masculine. Very short attention span and fucking addicted to their smartphones, you can't even imagine. And god damn, they can't even dance. I understand, it's a matter of perspective. Some of you guys might come down here from North of the border and think it's the land of awesome, feminine women. But I can assure you, if you come here from Peru, Colombia or basically anywhere else, you will get as disappointed as I got.
Nightlife:
As in Lima, you will encounter most hot girls in GDL through Nightlife. Just be warned, Nightlife here sucks big time. Ever been to a club and thought that all the hot girls are zoned off in VIP areas? Well, here in GDL the whole club is a VIP zone. There are a couple of high end cubs such as La Santa, Evva, Strana Guadalajara and Mallet Social Club. All of them are all table & bottle oriented with minimal to no dancefloor and no bar. Everyone sticks with their group and just drinks. It's basically like going to a bar in Chapultepec (GDL's bar zone), but with elevated prices. The strategy would be to arrive early (~11pm), preferably before the club opens, and make some male friends outside the club. Get invited to their table and go on from here. As in most Latin countries, it's about getting numbers. Just don't expect too much.
Lola Lolita:
Some guys mentioned to fly down here just for this club. I can't even imagine how shitty it must be in some places North of the border. The quality here is VERY AVERAGE. Maybe after a whole day in Centro Histórico you might be tricked into thinking that those 5s & 6s in the club are actually 8s & 9s. They aren't. I even went twice to confirm, but quality didn't get better. The bouncers also told me, that what I've seen is the normal quality for this nightclub. The fact that girls don't know how to dance and act like western girls doesn't help. It's on par with 2nd tier Germany and absolutely no reason to come here. To be fair, Lola Lolita isn't as bottle & table oriented as the other clubs mentioned above.
Daygame:
Don't waste your time with daygame. In large parts there are basically no targets on the streets. You have only 2 options: 1.) Go to Centro Comercial Andares 2.) Coffee shops in Providencia. That's it.
Tinder:
No data. Don't have it installed.
Guy friends:
For all the hate I gave GDL so far, the city is home to maybe the coolest guys on the planet. Every man is happy that you visit the city and wants that you have as much fun as possible. In clubs you get invited to tables & drinks, restaurant owners want to talk to you (and invite you for drinks), even random guys on the street are super cool. I've met some really cool dudes in Strana Guadalajara, who invited me to a house party the next day. In Lola Lolita I met another one who invited me to his ranch. The local men have just the right combination of being down to earth, traditional world view and a relaxed but outgoing personality. GDL is a place to make male friends and that's a big plus over Lima.
Conclusion:
Ok, I got quite a culture shock and failed to adapt the whole first week and a half. Also the heat made my stay rather unpleasant. Nevertheless, the points made above are still valid in general. Don't come here for a short, girl-oriented trip. There are just so many better options. However, come here for 6+ months, make some good male friends and work your way through the local social circle. GDL might be a place to live in, it's not a place for tourism.
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lol. Not saying anything bad about the people in Mexico City, I love it a lot, but its true. lol. (Shoutout to Mexico City guys out there). There's also a believe with many Mexicans in the south that they have more "culture" than Mexicans in the north and that people in the north have culture that is "imported" from the US. Like the cowboy thing, the rodeos, etc... While the south has the mayans, Aztecs, the pyramids, etc... 
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. It pretty much can mean snotty or the way you dress (to a certain extent as stated previously). My cousins are from a pueblo and so they dress what we would call "Normal" in the U.S and people call them fresas. Or maybe it's because they only like to shop at Gallerias 
