Just returned from Colorado early in the afternoon. Spent one night in Boulder and three in Denver. These two cities are 25 miles from each other and are equally as far from Denver International Airport. Given that these are two of the most prominent cities in the state of Colorado, I can say with confidence that traveling to the state for women is unwise and will not produce a satisfying return on investment.
I always love it when my experience in a city or country matches closely with that of a fellow RVF member. I don't think there's been a location that I've been to with an observation that so closely parallels my experience as that from InternationPlayboy in these two threads:
Denver, CO
Moving to Denver
This is on the money. Don't bang Colorado.
Now, one caveat, Denver/Boulder gets more than 300 days of sunshine per year. However, the first three nights I was there, the weather was untypically cold/overcast. The high temperatures on Friday and Saturday were 38 and 31 degrees, respectively. Sunday was beautiful with highs in the comfortable 50s and clear, sunny skies. And high temperatures this week will be in the 70s with sunny skies. From what I've learned, however, this shouldn't have any influence or impact on opportunities for game.
For this trip, I linked up with one of my good friends from NYC for a weekend mission to get laid with local women using game. In hindsight, I regret having gone that route. Though I had no idea what to expect at the time, I would have been better served enjoying Colorado through social circle. I already knew a girl at UC Boulder who was a hottie (8+) and the sister of the girl who picked me up from the airport is a high level member of a major sorority on campus. My first night in Boulder was spent having dinner with these girls (4 of them in total) by myself as my boy's flight was delayed. After dinner, I hung out with the girl I knew at UC and checked out some bars with her. It was Thursday night which is practically Friday in most college towns, not least a major legendary one such as Boulder.
The venues though were really downscale and none of the girls were remotely as cute as the one I was with. I was dressed very sophisticated while all of the guys around were dressed like suburban teens. I was disappointed. The venues and college atmosphere led me to think that I made a good call in choosing to spend the bulk of my weekend in Denver, a larger, more urban, and cosmopolitan city (relatively speaking)
The next morning (Friday) I linked up with my boy in the lobby of our hotel.
We got in a nice workout by having a 2-mile run into the city center and getting breakfast. Everyone we interacted with were extremely friendly and seemed to be interested in who we were. There was even one point while we were exercising that a young woman on a bicycle mentioned having seen us three times already that day. I got the sense that guys like us in Boulder would have an easy time if we lived there or spent any significant amount of time hanging out there.
Unfortunately, there were no cute girls around in any of the restaurants, sidewalk cafes or coffee shops that morning.
In sum, Boulder is a very progressive and liberal college town that reminds me a lot like Berkeley (for those of you familiar with the Bay Area). There's great local cuisine and all kinds of new age and progressive businesses. Pearl Street Mall is a nice outdoor pedestrian-only street that goes right to the campus. If you were going to run day game in Boulder, this is where you would do it.
However, like I said, don't travel here for women. Come for the great outdoors, good food/beer, progressive culture, and social circle if you have any.
Note: One great thing about this region is that people are very fit. I found no sightings of land whales at all. The same for Denver. Most people who live in this region lead active lives and enjoy spending time doing things in the outdoors (hiking, skiing/snowboarding, camping, rafting, running, etc).
Also, girls are very receptive to being approached. There were absolutely no bitch shields and few guys, if any, are actively running game.
Race also appears to be a non-issue. Denver/Boulder have a very progressive vibe and are both lacking heavily in diversity (very high percentage of whites), so being a minority definitely does not hurt the game.
Denver
On Friday, my boy and I hit Denver and checked into our epic loft in a logistically favorable area of "LoDo." This is where most of the action in Denver is centered. From our loft, we were able to walk everywhere without needing a car. The loft itself contained an awesome pool/hot tub, fitness center, fireplace and was the kind of DHV you dream of when hitting a new city. We were stoked and ready to put it to good use.
Day Game
16th Street Mall is the prime area for day game in Denver. It is a pedestrian-only street that goes on for many blocks. In fact, it's so long that a tram shuttle runs down in both directions for the entire the length of it. 16th Street Mall is also chockful of coffee shops and restaurants. However, many of the businesses were closed early and there wasn't many people out and about walking down here. Denver during the day time is pretty dead. I suspect that most people simply choose to do other things during the weekend (i.e. exploring the outdoors) because Denver was eerily quiet and lacking of people during the weekend.
Night Game
The LoDo area is centered around a few blocks between 15th and 18th streets with three adjacent cross streets (Blake, Larimer, and Market).
This area mostly consists of restaurants with bars and a few dedicated bars and breweries. Of these bars, Gaslamp is probably the best. For dance clubs, I can only really point out two that were decent, Chloe's and Suite 200. Chloe's is widely considered the most upscale venue in LoDo. It has a bar in one room and a dance floor in the other. The problem with Chloe, though, is that it's very dark in the dance floor room so you really can't make out the faces of the girls in there. The music is also very loud and succeeds in making gaming impossible. Your only option in this spot is to dance.
The cover for Chloe's is $20 but they put it on a card that they give you which you can use to buy drinks.
The only nightlife venue I actually liked was Suite 200. This had the best talent I've seen in Denver, but that's not saying much.
Throughout the entire time I was in Denver, I did not see anything above a 7. Most girls were 5s and 6s. What's crazy about that is in the main nightlife areas, girls were trying to look their best but they still weren't that cute. On the bright side, there were no land whales at least and the girls didn't have bitch shields.
One other problem was that most girls don't actually live in Denver but they commute from the suburbs, many of which are 30 mins of driving time away. Also, any decent girl that I saw was never alone but usually rolled in packs of four which served as a natural cockblock. My boy complained that most girls he spoke to were not well-traveled or that knowledgeable about other places.
At Suite 200, the cover is $15 but it's the same setup as Chloe where the cover charge serves as a prepaid drink card.
The closest we came to finding success in Denver was with these two chicks we met at Suite 200. As time was running out, we started approaching girls with Roosh's afterparty move. Luckily our loft was stashed with various top shelf liquors and there were good mixers in the fridge so we just let girls know that we were having a party. A few seemed interested and two of them actually bit the bait. However, they just had a few drinks, danced with us and talked but nothing went down as the lesser attractive friend had work early in the morning.
One other thing about Denver is that there are lots of older women out, some of them milfs. If you're into the 35+ demographic, you will have lots of options. Some of these older women have very deceiving looks. Many times we'd see them from the back and assume they were young only to chase after them and see their old faces when we caught up.
Ultimately, I really have nothing positive to say about gaming in the mile high city. We tried day game/street game but there were hardly any people out and no cute chicks. The night game venues in Denver are subpar and sure to disappoint any guy from a top-tier major city like NYC, Chicago, Miami, or LA, as well as DC.
I may return to Colorado next year for social circle/outdoorsy reasons but that will definitely be Boulder and Vail, not Denver.
Roosh was right in one response he made to a post where I dropped an article that reported Denver as having the "liveliest singles scene in the US." I've heard that online dating is huge in Denver so perhaps that's what it's referring to. I wouldn't be surprised at all that online dating is huge because most of the guys I saw out were definitely not in the "closing business."
Don't Bang Colorado.
I always love it when my experience in a city or country matches closely with that of a fellow RVF member. I don't think there's been a location that I've been to with an observation that so closely parallels my experience as that from InternationPlayboy in these two threads:
Denver, CO
Moving to Denver
This is on the money. Don't bang Colorado.
Now, one caveat, Denver/Boulder gets more than 300 days of sunshine per year. However, the first three nights I was there, the weather was untypically cold/overcast. The high temperatures on Friday and Saturday were 38 and 31 degrees, respectively. Sunday was beautiful with highs in the comfortable 50s and clear, sunny skies. And high temperatures this week will be in the 70s with sunny skies. From what I've learned, however, this shouldn't have any influence or impact on opportunities for game.
For this trip, I linked up with one of my good friends from NYC for a weekend mission to get laid with local women using game. In hindsight, I regret having gone that route. Though I had no idea what to expect at the time, I would have been better served enjoying Colorado through social circle. I already knew a girl at UC Boulder who was a hottie (8+) and the sister of the girl who picked me up from the airport is a high level member of a major sorority on campus. My first night in Boulder was spent having dinner with these girls (4 of them in total) by myself as my boy's flight was delayed. After dinner, I hung out with the girl I knew at UC and checked out some bars with her. It was Thursday night which is practically Friday in most college towns, not least a major legendary one such as Boulder.
The venues though were really downscale and none of the girls were remotely as cute as the one I was with. I was dressed very sophisticated while all of the guys around were dressed like suburban teens. I was disappointed. The venues and college atmosphere led me to think that I made a good call in choosing to spend the bulk of my weekend in Denver, a larger, more urban, and cosmopolitan city (relatively speaking)
The next morning (Friday) I linked up with my boy in the lobby of our hotel.
We got in a nice workout by having a 2-mile run into the city center and getting breakfast. Everyone we interacted with were extremely friendly and seemed to be interested in who we were. There was even one point while we were exercising that a young woman on a bicycle mentioned having seen us three times already that day. I got the sense that guys like us in Boulder would have an easy time if we lived there or spent any significant amount of time hanging out there.
Unfortunately, there were no cute girls around in any of the restaurants, sidewalk cafes or coffee shops that morning.
In sum, Boulder is a very progressive and liberal college town that reminds me a lot like Berkeley (for those of you familiar with the Bay Area). There's great local cuisine and all kinds of new age and progressive businesses. Pearl Street Mall is a nice outdoor pedestrian-only street that goes right to the campus. If you were going to run day game in Boulder, this is where you would do it.
However, like I said, don't travel here for women. Come for the great outdoors, good food/beer, progressive culture, and social circle if you have any.
Note: One great thing about this region is that people are very fit. I found no sightings of land whales at all. The same for Denver. Most people who live in this region lead active lives and enjoy spending time doing things in the outdoors (hiking, skiing/snowboarding, camping, rafting, running, etc).
Also, girls are very receptive to being approached. There were absolutely no bitch shields and few guys, if any, are actively running game.
Race also appears to be a non-issue. Denver/Boulder have a very progressive vibe and are both lacking heavily in diversity (very high percentage of whites), so being a minority definitely does not hurt the game.
Denver
On Friday, my boy and I hit Denver and checked into our epic loft in a logistically favorable area of "LoDo." This is where most of the action in Denver is centered. From our loft, we were able to walk everywhere without needing a car. The loft itself contained an awesome pool/hot tub, fitness center, fireplace and was the kind of DHV you dream of when hitting a new city. We were stoked and ready to put it to good use.
Day Game
16th Street Mall is the prime area for day game in Denver. It is a pedestrian-only street that goes on for many blocks. In fact, it's so long that a tram shuttle runs down in both directions for the entire the length of it. 16th Street Mall is also chockful of coffee shops and restaurants. However, many of the businesses were closed early and there wasn't many people out and about walking down here. Denver during the day time is pretty dead. I suspect that most people simply choose to do other things during the weekend (i.e. exploring the outdoors) because Denver was eerily quiet and lacking of people during the weekend.
Night Game
The LoDo area is centered around a few blocks between 15th and 18th streets with three adjacent cross streets (Blake, Larimer, and Market).
This area mostly consists of restaurants with bars and a few dedicated bars and breweries. Of these bars, Gaslamp is probably the best. For dance clubs, I can only really point out two that were decent, Chloe's and Suite 200. Chloe's is widely considered the most upscale venue in LoDo. It has a bar in one room and a dance floor in the other. The problem with Chloe, though, is that it's very dark in the dance floor room so you really can't make out the faces of the girls in there. The music is also very loud and succeeds in making gaming impossible. Your only option in this spot is to dance.
The cover for Chloe's is $20 but they put it on a card that they give you which you can use to buy drinks.
The only nightlife venue I actually liked was Suite 200. This had the best talent I've seen in Denver, but that's not saying much.
Throughout the entire time I was in Denver, I did not see anything above a 7. Most girls were 5s and 6s. What's crazy about that is in the main nightlife areas, girls were trying to look their best but they still weren't that cute. On the bright side, there were no land whales at least and the girls didn't have bitch shields.
One other problem was that most girls don't actually live in Denver but they commute from the suburbs, many of which are 30 mins of driving time away. Also, any decent girl that I saw was never alone but usually rolled in packs of four which served as a natural cockblock. My boy complained that most girls he spoke to were not well-traveled or that knowledgeable about other places.
At Suite 200, the cover is $15 but it's the same setup as Chloe where the cover charge serves as a prepaid drink card.
The closest we came to finding success in Denver was with these two chicks we met at Suite 200. As time was running out, we started approaching girls with Roosh's afterparty move. Luckily our loft was stashed with various top shelf liquors and there were good mixers in the fridge so we just let girls know that we were having a party. A few seemed interested and two of them actually bit the bait. However, they just had a few drinks, danced with us and talked but nothing went down as the lesser attractive friend had work early in the morning.
One other thing about Denver is that there are lots of older women out, some of them milfs. If you're into the 35+ demographic, you will have lots of options. Some of these older women have very deceiving looks. Many times we'd see them from the back and assume they were young only to chase after them and see their old faces when we caught up.
Ultimately, I really have nothing positive to say about gaming in the mile high city. We tried day game/street game but there were hardly any people out and no cute chicks. The night game venues in Denver are subpar and sure to disappoint any guy from a top-tier major city like NYC, Chicago, Miami, or LA, as well as DC.
I may return to Colorado next year for social circle/outdoorsy reasons but that will definitely be Boulder and Vail, not Denver.
Roosh was right in one response he made to a post where I dropped an article that reported Denver as having the "liveliest singles scene in the US." I've heard that online dating is huge in Denver so perhaps that's what it's referring to. I wouldn't be surprised at all that online dating is huge because most of the guys I saw out were definitely not in the "closing business."
Don't Bang Colorado.
