[floor7]

Having moved from DC to Seattle, DC destroys seattle in terms of women and dating culture. I've never subscribed to the fact that DC had bad women (for an American city, but my standards are a bit lower than RvF vets) - every summer you had a pipeline of new 21-22 year olds coming in and on the Hill of which more than a number of interns/SA's are pretty attractive.

DC women do have their bitch shields up and hypergamy is of unreal levels there though but as bad as the ratios you think are in DC, it is not like the Seattle area.

[Iso]

(03-27-2016 07:43 AM)Repo Wrote:  

Partied in DC recently at a place called "The Park" on a friday. The venue was pretty cool, 4 floors with different DJs. Tons of islanders and Ethiopians, so many smokin hot black women. The mix seemed to be about 60% guys and 40% women, but considering many of the guys were just standing and drinking it didn't seem so bad, though it definately could have been better. One thing I noticed was this place especially was people seemed to hang in larger groups. I noticed women staring me down frequently, but it was definately a challenge because their friends would keep trying to cockblock. After the place closed I went to a 5 Guys across the street. Saw lots of the people from the club still in large groups. There was one set with like 10 ethiopian girls (majority smokin hot). and maybe like 3 dudes who it seemed like they already knew. For people who live down there, what tactics do you use to break into these large groups? I went with one friend and was hoping to find girls in groups of 2-3 to game, but groups that size where the girls were actually hot were pretty rare. Vast majority of the hot girls were all in large groups. Also, is this large groups thing a DC thing or just due to the type of venue I went to? Rarely experienced this kind of cliquiness in Philly.

I would stay away from Park. The club is very pretentious and bottle service oriented. It's an artificial club atmosphere. Stick to bars in D.C. The groups will be smaller and less status obsessed. If the bar/club is on K street, avoid it.

[TheBMan]

(03-27-2016 03:28 PM)Iso Wrote:  

(03-27-2016 07:43 AM)Repo Wrote:  

Partied in DC recently at a place called "The Park" on a friday. The venue was pretty cool, 4 floors with different DJs. Tons of islanders and Ethiopians, so many smokin hot black women. The mix seemed to be about 60% guys and 40% women, but considering many of the guys were just standing and drinking it didn't seem so bad, though it definately could have been better. One thing I noticed was this place especially was people seemed to hang in larger groups. I noticed women staring me down frequently, but it was definately a challenge because their friends would keep trying to cockblock. After the place closed I went to a 5 Guys across the street. Saw lots of the people from the club still in large groups. There was one set with like 10 ethiopian girls (majority smokin hot). and maybe like 3 dudes who it seemed like they already knew. For people who live down there, what tactics do you use to break into these large groups? I went with one friend and was hoping to find girls in groups of 2-3 to game, but groups that size where the girls were actually hot were pretty rare. Vast majority of the hot girls were all in large groups. Also, is this large groups thing a DC thing or just due to the type of venue I went to? Rarely experienced this kind of cliquiness in Philly.

I would stay away from Park. The club is very pretentious and bottle service oriented. It's an artificial club atmosphere. Stick to bars in D.C. The groups will be smaller and less status obsessed. If the bar/club is on K street, avoid it.

Actually I think if you are black or like the black girls The Park would be a great spot due to sheer size - not a lot of big places in DC. You will also face competition from some of the local athletes. That being said, I've never been so take that with a grain of salt.

[eatthishomie]

The night scene in DC seems to be almost exclusively people on dates and social circles. Day game and social circle is where it's at here.

[Repo]

Which bars are best to game in that have a diverse crowd? Unfortunately I live far enough away that day game will be rare, most stays I'm only there for a night or two, so looking for same night lays.

[Iso]

(03-27-2016 04:10 PM)TheBMan Wrote:  

(03-27-2016 03:28 PM)Iso Wrote:  

(03-27-2016 07:43 AM)Repo Wrote:  

Partied in DC recently at a place called "The Park" on a friday. The venue was pretty cool, 4 floors with different DJs. Tons of islanders and Ethiopians, so many smokin hot black women. The mix seemed to be about 60% guys and 40% women, but considering many of the guys were just standing and drinking it didn't seem so bad, though it definately could have been better. One thing I noticed was this place especially was people seemed to hang in larger groups. I noticed women staring me down frequently, but it was definately a challenge because their friends would keep trying to cockblock. After the place closed I went to a 5 Guys across the street. Saw lots of the people from the club still in large groups. There was one set with like 10 ethiopian girls (majority smokin hot). and maybe like 3 dudes who it seemed like they already knew. For people who live down there, what tactics do you use to break into these large groups? I went with one friend and was hoping to find girls in groups of 2-3 to game, but groups that size where the girls were actually hot were pretty rare. Vast majority of the hot girls were all in large groups. Also, is this large groups thing a DC thing or just due to the type of venue I went to? Rarely experienced this kind of cliquiness in Philly.

I would stay away from Park. The club is very pretentious and bottle service oriented. It's an artificial club atmosphere. Stick to bars in D.C. The groups will be smaller and less status obsessed. If the bar/club is on K street, avoid it.

Actually I think if you are black or like the black girls The Park would be a great spot due to sheer size - not a lot of big places in DC. You will also face competition from some of the local athletes. That being said, I've never been so take that with a grain of salt.

Park is great if you are Black or Asian (and like Black and Asian girls). Awful if you are not.

[Iso]

(03-27-2016 04:18 PM)Repo Wrote:  

Which bars are best to game in that have a diverse crowd? Unfortunately I live far enough away that day game will be rare, most stays I'm only there for a night or two, so looking for same night lays.

Try U street area. It's hard to find a bar in DC with an even ratio of Whites, Blacks, Asians, and Hispanics.

[slothpiece]

(03-27-2016 08:15 PM)Iso Wrote:  

(03-27-2016 04:18 PM)Repo Wrote:  

Which bars are best to game in that have a diverse crowd? Unfortunately I live far enough away that day game will be rare, most stays I'm only there for a night or two, so looking for same night lays.

Try U street area. It's hard to find a bar in DC with an even ratio of Whites, Blacks, Asians, and Hispanics.

If you were black and wanted white girls, you wouldn't go to the Park. You would go to the Whitest of bars and hope you get in. Think of Journey, Phil Collins, Van Halen or trance music, not rap or R&B. Asians definitely like trance (Echostage). Whites (Smith Point).

[SuS]

(03-29-2016 12:38 AM)slothpiece Wrote:  

(03-27-2016 08:15 PM)Iso Wrote:  

(03-27-2016 04:18 PM)Repo Wrote:  

Which bars are best to game in that have a diverse crowd? Unfortunately I live far enough away that day game will be rare, most stays I'm only there for a night or two, so looking for same night lays.

Try U street area. It's hard to find a bar in DC with an even ratio of Whites, Blacks, Asians, and Hispanics.

If you were black and wanted white girls, you wouldn't go to the Park. You would go to the Whitest of bars and hope you get in. Think of Journey, Phil Collins, Van Halen or trance music, not rap or R&B. Asians definitely like trance (Echostage). Whites (Smith Point).

If you're black and wanted a welcoming diverse/genuinely integrated crowd, look somewhere outside of DC. Most of my non-black lays have been outside the city itself, with half of them being outside the Beltway and closer to Baltimore. I would aim for places like Silver Spring, Rockville, Reston, and the like. You're even better off in places like dudebro Arlington and yuppified Bethesda.

One of the main reasons I left the DMV (and East Coast region in general) is because of the lack of true racial integration in more of the urban locations and the lack of love for black men, specifically non-ghetto and non-bourgie ones. If you can pull off local dopeboy or HBCU bourgie game, you'll be alright in DC. But if you want the most results with the least work when getting with women of any race, do social circle game. DC is a very cliquey city in general, and despite it having one of the highest concentration of twenty somethings, it's the hardest place to meet people in general unless you're socially "certified" by someone else.

[Merenguero]

^^^
Silver Spring is a wasteland. Even the latin night clubs in Wheaton are worse than similar clubs in other places. Los Arrieros used to be really good until the smoking ban hit in 2003. It has since changed hands and owners multiple times and is called El Agila 2.

[Menace]

The thing with DC is that there does not appear to be a even a small group of venues that is consistently good. Some nights I've been out and seen decent pairs of girls out, but it's always hit or miss. DC nightlife is also predominantly white or black, which reflects the demographics of the city. When new places open, they are typically very good.

You need to have omnivore game in DC. On-line, night (opportunistically), and day. It is not a city suited to high turnover of girls unless you are truly exceptional (and I know such people). If you're an average guy here (looks, dress, income), you will struggle. I think this city is ok if you're older and more established, but if you're younger, I'd move somewhere else.

My best advice for DC is to have an anchor relationship, and then get stuff on the side.

[C-Note]

The Trump hotel on Pennsylvania is supposed to open in September. Perhaps make the bar there a forum hangout?

[slothpiece]

Don't forget the new MGM is scheduled to be finished at the National Harbour this year. Should be a game changer for DC afterhours.

[The Black Knight]

(03-30-2016 11:02 PM)slothpiece Wrote:  

Don't forget the new MGM is scheduled to be finished at the National Harbour this year. Should be a game changer for DC afterhours.

Isn't that place being built in PG County?

I don't know. I got a feeling a casino in that area is gonna drag out a lot of hoodrat wanna-be baller types and the bullshit that comes with that.

[MdWanderer]

(03-31-2016 01:18 AM)The Black Knight Wrote:  

(03-30-2016 11:02 PM)slothpiece Wrote:  

Don't forget the new MGM is scheduled to be finished at the National Harbour this year. Should be a game changer for DC afterhours.

Isn't that place being built in PG County?

I don't know. I got a feeling a casino in that area is gonna drag out a lot of hoodrat wanna-be baller types and the bullshit that comes with that.

It's being built in PG County but it's basically a stone's throw distance from D.C and it's being marketed as a D.C venue.

If the casino gets a 24 hour liquor license, it'll most likely attract the hoodrat and ratchet scene unfortunately. That is what is happening with the Horseshoe Casino in Baltimore. There have been fights and other crap going down after hours when the riff-raff leaves the clubs and heads to the casino long after last call has expired in the city. Casinos usually don't attract the fratty, yuppie post-grad crowd that hangs out in places in Adams Morgan and Dupont and while doucey at times, most likely won't cause too much trouble.

[Seth_Rose]

(03-30-2016 03:51 PM)C-Note Wrote:  

The Trump hotel on Pennsylvania is supposed to open in September. Perhaps make the bar there a forum hangout?

Yes, really looking forward to this. Can't think of a location more relevant to the forum at this moment than a Trump Hotel in DC!

I would wait a few weeks after it opens however to avoid any SJW protests.

[Merenguero]

(03-31-2016 07:29 AM)MdWanderer Wrote:  

(03-31-2016 01:18 AM)The Black Knight Wrote:  

(03-30-2016 11:02 PM)slothpiece Wrote:  

Don't forget the new MGM is scheduled to be finished at the National Harbour this year. Should be a game changer for DC afterhours.

Isn't that place being built in PG County?

I don't know. I got a feeling a casino in that area is gonna drag out a lot of hoodrat wanna-be baller types and the bullshit that comes with that.

It's being built in PG County but it's basically a stone's throw distance from D.C and it's being marketed as a D.C venue.

If the casino gets a 24 hour liquor license, it'll most likely attract the hoodrat and ratchet scene unfortunately. That is what is happening with the Horseshoe Casino in Baltimore. There have been fights and other crap going down after hours when the riff-raff leaves the clubs and heads to the casino long after last call has expired in the city. Casinos usually don't attract the fratty, yuppie post-grad crowd that hangs out in places in Adams Morgan and Dupont and while doucey at times, most likely won't cause too much trouble.

I guarantee you that MGM won't be any good. The very few quality girls in the D.C. area don't live anywhere near National Harbor or whatever it's called and will both be scared off by the place being in P.G. County and close to Southeast D.C. and will just think it's too far anyway. Also, and usually I'm the last person who says these kinds of things, but if you have a car that is anything better than a clunker, don't drive it there. Just under two years ago, I drove a car literally off the lot to that place and within a couple of hours, someone apparently took a key to it. It didn't ruin the car or anything, but let's just say it diminished the value a little.

[Menace]

Agree Trump will be great (libs won't want to go there, or so they say), and MGM is going to suck.

[The Black Knight]

(03-31-2016 02:27 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

I guarantee you that MGM won't be any good. The very few quality girls in the D.C. area don't live anywhere near National Harbor or whatever it's called and will both be scared off by the place being in P.G. County and close to Southeast D.C. and will just think it's too far anyway. Also, and usually I'm the last person who says these kinds of things, but if you have a car that is anything better than a clunker, don't drive it there. Just under two years ago, I drove a car literally off the lot to that place and within a couple of hours, someone apparently took a key to it. It didn't ruin the car or anything, but let's just say it diminished the value a little.

Haha, yup. Good luck convincing sluts to get on the green line and go south through SE and PG at 1am too. Sorry to hear about the car though.

They really should have built this thing off the orange or silver line in VA. Could have attracted a totally different crowd and been a decent spot to hit up from time to time.

What a total waste.

[MdWanderer]

(03-31-2016 11:47 PM)The Black Knight Wrote:  

They really should have built this thing off the orange or silver line in VA. Could have attracted a totally different crowd and been a decent spot to hit up from time to time.

What a total waste.

Casinos aren't legal in Virginia, and will probably never be anytime soon.

[C-Note]

The Old Ebbit Grill on 15th between "F" and "G" streets appears to be very bustling on Friday afternoons with good ratios in its four interconnected bars. A mix of young tourist women and office workers getting an early start on their Friday happy hour. But, I haven't been there enough times to see if it's always like that.

[WalkingMan]

(03-27-2016 03:28 PM)Iso Wrote:  

[quote='Repo' pid='1261709' dateline='1459082631']
For people who live down there, what tactics do you use to break into these large groups? I went with one friend and was hoping to find girls in groups of 2-3 to game, but groups that size where the girls were actually hot were pretty rare. Vast majority of the hot girls were all in large groups. Also, is this large groups thing a DC thing or just due to the type of venue I went to? Rarely experienced this kind of cliquiness in Philly.

This is one of the reasons why I really want to study the Mystery Method book again. He's still one of the only PUAs that has info on groups. I don't want to skip a girl I think is cute just because she's in a group. Sometimes I have a fantasy of being the "master of group game" lol.

[Chowder Head]

(04-01-2016 05:57 AM)MdWanderer Wrote:  

(03-31-2016 11:47 PM)The Black Knight Wrote:  

They really should have built this thing off the orange or silver line in VA. Could have attracted a totally different crowd and been a decent spot to hit up from time to time.

What a total waste.

Casinos aren't legal in Virginia, and will probably never be anytime soon.

Its only a 5 minute drive from Alexandria, right over the bridge. That casino will be HUUGGGEEEE. That area (The National Harbor) is pretty nice.

[Gorgiass]

For the next 72 hours the Botanical Garden is going to be a very high traffic area thanks to this smelly beauty below - corpse flower. I was there this AM and opened a few cuties. Of course it's a mixed bag but they're around. If you pick up elsewhere but in the area it'd be a great instant date location too. Long line but it was moving quickly. I'm in Gtown now but headed out of town today.

Open from 10am to 11pm while this is blooming.

(This post was last modified: 08-02-2016 10:59 AM by Gorgiass.)

[MOVSM]

A tale of two black DC clubs:

I recently discovered Afropolitan. It is an African club, more of an event really, that meets on the first Friday of every month. If you want to meet black girls who behave more like European girls, this is highly recommended. You will hear English, French, Pidgin, Swahili, Igbo, Yoruba, etc. spoken there, and songs in all those languages.
I was told there is also an after-party after 10 where they also play rap, but I cannot say anything about it as as we left before this.
Talent--I didn't see any supermodels, but there were quite a few very cute girls, who were not at all bitchy. If you like some tight, serious ass, this is a place for you. Of course there were a few usual land whales, but they were in a distinct minority.
Do dress up--I saw people in cocktail dresses, suit and tie. It appears Africans do not look down on good dress and manners.
I was one of the 2 or 3 other white guys there, and I never felt threatened or uncomfortable or unwelcome in any way. Very enjoyable experience overall.

Bar 7: I was there with a group of friends, about 2 years ago. You kinda have to get a VIP table as the site insists. We split it among ourselves.
This is an American black club. Hip-hop is music of choice. $300 champagne bottles delivered to fireworks in order to alert everyone to patron's affluence.
Talent--*sigh*... The girls fell into two models: the tall, skinny version with face so busted it'll make you flinch; and short, fat version the size of a refrigerator. No waist, straight lines up and down. There were three pretty girls there--two waitresses, and a tourist from New York. She visited her sister, the refrigerator type.
Outside, some girl chatted me up. All of a sudden--I swear I saw smoke--a guy appeared out of nowhere, like a ninja: "Sir, this lady is taken, you shouldn't speak with her." She waved him off: "It's OK, I spoke with him first." Puff of smoke, he disappeared into the ether as before. She was at best a 5, through beer goggles.
It seemed like a club for blacks only, with no one other invited or welcome.
I hope it changed. I haven't been back since.