[Kickb]

Approach#2

Hot chick sampling beer at the grocery store. I recorded this approach on my phone's voice recorder. Trying to send it to soundcloud but the progress bar is stuck at 0%.

Me:Hey
Her:Hey want a free one?
Me: A free six pack? Yeah Ill take one.
Her: A sample...You want a sixpack?
Me: A Sample?
Her: Yeah thats all I can give you.
Her: You like it? It's good I think.
Me: Yeah I kind of like Heineken. Heineken light.
Her: Not as stout as the regular.

Not wanting to fall into her sales pitch I changed the changed the subject.

Me: My tire blew out.
Her: What?
Me: My cart's tire blew out while I was shopping.
Her: Wullllllll
Me: What should I do about that?
Her: That's a good question. You might want to complain to kroger about that becau--
Me: I thought I'd get a drink.
Her:...Get a drink?
Me: Yeah
Her: Well thats all I can give you.
Me: Oh really?
Her: Yeah
Me: Well them Im going to take your snacks.

I grabbed her pretzel snacks and walked off. I returned five minutes later wearing a clever disguise: Reading glasses.

Me: Oh sampling beer I see.
Her: SAME PERSON
Me: What?...You mean this didn't work?
Her: No!

Long story short we talked a bit more. I got her to give me another drink. She probably thought I was an alcoholic.

Then at the end the timing couldn't have been worse. As soon as I transitioned to ask for her phone number a chubby woman in her 60's walked up to us to use her trash can. She's probably been cock blocking for 40 years.

Me: I only came (Chubby old woman appears and we both look at her. I keep talking)back here to get your phone number.
Her: Welllll...I have a boy friend.
Me: Hmm really?
Her: Yeah
Me: A real one?
Her: yeah I'm not the kind of girl to just tell people I have a fake girlfriend.

And that was pretty much it. I didn't really have a plan when I went up to her. We cut each other off alot. The pacing of the conversation was slower

[pitt]

The playing the persistent guy concept can be quiet interesting.

Yesterday i was at the laundry waiting for my clothes and reading a book ( In case you want to know, the magic of thinking big by David Schawartz, i strongly recommend it, great book). I see this phat ass puerto rican chick walking in..i was like..damnnnn..i saw her the day before, i was going to approach but i didnt..anyway, she walks into the laundry and go to top up her laundry card, i tell her in spanish "the machine is not working"..she replied "i dont speak spanish"..i was like well the machine aint working..she smiled, really? i was like no, im joking, you can use it. I proceeded, "i thought you were dominican, you dont speak spanish?" She was like, "well i am puerto rican, i understand a bit of spanish, i was born in NY so i cant speak it"....this mexican woman that works there tells me that she needs to use my chair and my puerto rican chick moves to the other side..i go back on reading my book..minutes after, i needed to dry my clothes..i pretended i didnt know how to use the drying machine..i go back to her.."can you help me using the drying machine"..she was like..sure..she helps me out..i try initiate a conversation..she answers me and then quickly stopped showing interest..she was basically sending me mixed emotions..i was like ok fuck this.

Went back on my reading...i saw this lil mexican kid age 2 or 3..and i started playing with him and his older brother and sister..im always talking to everybody so i was quickly the most loved man in that laundry..she sees that i dont give a fuck about her not talking to me. Anyway, minutes after after the kids leave, the positive and negative energy were talking to me..the positive energy was telling me to go to talk to her again..the negative energy was telling me that she is not interested and she may get annoyed..i was like fuck this,..im going to talk to her again..i go back to her.. "yo im looking to fly to san juan, can you give me a quick breakdown about what goes down there?" she was like..i never been there and smiles..i asked her..so when can i invite you for a coffee? she is like.."i dont drink coffee"..ok a beer..she is like i dont drink beer.. i continued, milk, orange juice, whatever the fuck you drink..she started laughing hard and told me..but i have a boyfriend..i was like, well i have a girlfriend, i just want to be your friend, im new here in staten island, i want you to tell me stories about staten island..she smiles and replies..you guys always say that you just want to be friends, you are all the same..i was like, well im different (gave her that playboy look but i didnt make it that intense)..she was like ok, take my number, call me later...

My home boy was waiting for me at the gym so i had to leave the laundry quick..i quickly left after i got the number and just told her, i will call you later.

I called her later and no answer..it would make a perfect story if i did get the bang, i was already thinking about spitting on her.

[Giovonny]

Whole Foods. White girl. Early 20s. Eastern European looking.

I was exiting the store, she was paying for food. I slowed down so it would look like we were exiting the store at the exact same time. She was holding a kombacha tea.

me: how is that kumbacha tea?
her: i actually haven't tried this flavor yet so we'll see
me: i tried one a few weeks ago and it was disgusting
her: it all depends on the brand and the flavor
me: have you ever made it yourself?
her: no
me: its really for health and not flavor i think
her: exactly
me: my grandma used to make it at home
her: really?
me: ya it was gross
her: but i bet it was healthy
me: i'm sure it was i only tried it once
her: i might try making some if i google it
me: you know i didn't really care so much about the tea i wanted to say hi to you, you have a different look.
her: ooh, well hi
me: im gio
her: im stefanie
me: are you from the city
her: no, the east bay

At this point we were in the parking lot and she really didn't seem interested in me. I sort of slowed down to continue talking but she sort of just keep walking.

me: excuse me

She turned back to look at me.

me: you are walking away like you are not interested in talking to me.

Finally, I got her attention. Finally, she started to respect me as a man.

her: oh i thought this was your car?
me: it is but i still want to ask you something
her: ok
me:what if i said lets have lunch here sometime
her: oh i don't know
me: i know its funny, i like your look, if i didn't stop you, i would never see you again.
her: umm, well, i guess
me: you guess?
her: i don't know
me: be a big girl, if you want to talk to me again, lets exchange numbers, if you don't, no big deal
her: i don't think im interested
me: okay, well have a nice day and enjoy your tea
her: k bye

Not my best work but every approach helps in terms of building momentum and confidence. When I see a girl I like, I don't like to to let her pass by me without at least trying.

[at350zguyy]

i like it gio. the transition from indirect to direct was really nice and i'd like to see myself do this more.

[starmaze]

(09-01-2012 02:54 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Whole Foods. White girl. Early 20s. Eastern European looking.

I was exiting the store, she was paying for food. I slowed down so it would look like we were exiting the store at the exact same time. She was holding a kombacha tea.

me: how is that kumbacha tea?
her: i actually haven't tried this flavor yet so we'll see
me: i tried one a few weeks ago and it was disgusting
her: it all depends on the brand and the flavor
me: have you ever made it yourself?
her: no
me: its really for health and not flavor i think
her: exactly
me: my grandma used to make it at home
her: really?
me: ya it was gross
her: but i bet it was healthy
me: i'm sure it was i only tried it once
her: i might try making some if i google it
me: you know i didn't really care so much about the tea i wanted to say hi to you, you have a different look.
her: ooh, well hi
me: im gio
her: im stefanie
me: are you from the city
her: no, the east bay

At this point we were in the parking lot and she really didn't seem interested in me. I sort of slowed down to continue talking but she sort of just keep walking.

me: excuse me

She turned back to look at me.

me: you are walking away like you are not interested in talking to me.

Finally, I got her attention. Finally, she started to respect me as a man.

her: oh i thought this was your car?
me: it is but i still want to ask you something
her: ok
me:what if i said lets have lunch here sometime
her: oh i don't know
me: i know its funny, i like your look, if i didn't stop you, i would never see you again.
her: umm, well, i guess
me: you guess?
her: i don't know
me: be a big girl, if you want to talk to me again, lets exchange numbers, if you don't, no big deal
her: i don't think im interested
me: okay, well have a nice day and enjoy your tea
her: k bye

Not my best work but every approach helps in terms of building momentum and confidence. When I see a girl I like, I don't like to to let her pass by me without at least trying.

Finnaly is 1th the month and i could register and make a comment on your posts. I really like your entries becasue you are brutally honest and describe your interactions with women no matter how they go. It gives some perspective to the whole daygame idea, and make people realize that even if you are advanced player you still have to go through many approaches until you find a girl you click with. Thanks man!

[WesternCancer]

That's a good mentality Gio. Need to work on that myself.

I approached a girl at the bus stop today. Early 20s solid 8. she had sunglasses on and her iPod was blaring. I elderly opened about what bus stops there I spoke then paused until she took her earbuds out. Then I asked when the next bus was and she quickly looked it up on her phone (positive signal). Turns out tue bus is going to be there in under 5 minutes so I start talking more. I was so focused on just talking I didn't bother to try and deduce her situation. It hit me when I noticed her hair was wet and unstyled. She seemed bitchy and was wearing sunglasses. What completed it all was a black club dress and heels. This chick just got fucked and is doing an afternoon walk of shame. I didn't bother with more than conversational practice

Lessons:
- observe the situation and the girl. Make observations and deductions about her state of mind. Use them to your advantage
- dont bother with ugly chicks. Hot chicks love to fuck and know they can get things easily. Ugly/average chicks don't have as much experience and wont really get why you're approaching them.

On the ride home last night the second point was perfectly exemplified. I first overheard some average looking chicks talking about how they wanted to just have fun without weird dudes talking to them. Shortly after 2 solid 9s came on talking about guys theyve banged nd their rationalizations for why the guy won't commit

[starmaze]

I had a break in approaching girls long enough to realize the importance of consistency. Today I have started again and my approach anxiety hit me back tremendously. Anyway I managed to make a 3 daygame approaches.
1.A girl in women cloths section.
Me: hi
She: wtf look
Me: nice style
Her: do I know you?
Me: no, that’s why I came over and said hi
She: starts walking away. I stand still looking and her.
Me: Whats your name?
Her: I got bf
Me: ok, have a nice shopping looks like you found something special for you

2.A girl in the street. I saw her before. Once she stopped on red lights I approached her.
Me: I saw you before. You walk a lot. And you are fast walker.
Her: yes

Lights turns green

Me: where are you heading now?
Her: straight ahead ( walks away)

3.A hot chick in colorful dress. She was on tram station talking on phone all the time. I followed her to tram and approached her when she got off.
Me: sorry, I am looking for x street
Her: you must go this direction then
Me: oh it seems I got lost a bit, this tram used to go other way
Her: yeah, now it goes different direction
Me: oh, are you from Poznan?
Her: yeah, I have lived here for some time
Me; a first year student ?
Her: I am actually finishing my studies
Me: you look young
Her: I know, they want to see my ID when I buy alcohol
Me: no surprise I would ask you to show me your ID too

I talked to her some more but I was so nervous my voice cracked and couldn’t make much connection with her

Then she said, ok I am going this way.
Me: ok, how about grabbing a coffee some times?
Her: no
Me: ok bye

I felt devastated after this one. Not because rejection itself but because my crippling nervousness. I thought I won over my approach anxiety. I didn’t and it backfired me. I think it’s because even if I had a period when I approached a lot and felt confident probably I still haven’t made approaching a part of who I am.

[Alphacino]

Hi. I'm a new member here. Just moved to London recently so i can finally have a social life after leaving university.

I'll give a brief rundown of past few encounters. I've got alot to work on despite getting lucky regularly, primarily not getting so drunk.

I'm young and fairly good-looking so if i'm in the right venue I can open well with pretty much any girls out having fun also. No ONS since moving to London though (2 weeks ago).

First night out was wild. Lots of alcohol and i'm playing the fearless fun-loving guy who will literally just turn around and open a girl and not give a single fuck about cold approaching.

Was the last night of the olympics in London and I was in Leicester Square and it was rammed. Not just clubs but also the streets and squares. Awesome atmosphere.

My posts in this thread will get alot more coherent as I move towards more sobre game. Right now I can only report the very obvious things. I've missed out on several oppurtunities because I was too plastered to see the blatant, obvious signs but, then again, I've also made out in disgraceful fashion with some nice girly girls hehe.

1. Foreign looking girl. Short, blonde, 6. Would fuck, wouldn't gf. With her friend. They're conservative girls and not too drunk. They are fun enough though. I don't think i've ever had a girl be rude to me or reject me in an overly frank fashion. I always open conversationally like they just happen to have stumbled into my fun-filled night and I'm going to chat them up for a bit before rolling on with the party.

Anyway, back to this girl. She was interested but not in a DTF way because she was visiting England with her friend and they were rooming together (at this time I didn't have my own apartment so I was also rooming with another dude). I bailed in a polite non-rejecting manner because I thought it was going nowhere.
Only improvement on this would've been to push extremely hard as soon as i suspected it was going nowhere and thus conclude even sooner and waste less time.

2. In the smoking area, where most of my verbal game gets spat. I should add now that my two mates are even more shameless than me in terms of opening any remotely hot girl we walk up to. They have balls/no pride haha. I thought i was extroverted!

Anyway, we turn to two girls and dive on in. They're in a bigger group all mixed and mashed around the smoking area. Everyone is drunk and in the party spirit. The smoking area is separated from the street/square by a metal rail but it's just as crowded on either side. I'm drunk as a skunk right now and full of energy. Somehow i find myself alone with the japanese girl out of the pair. To my eyes she is 6-7, but i appreciate asians more than most. She is super into me and keeps saying she's really impressed by blah and blah that i'm rambling about. Infact, even though i was drunk, i did pause for a moment and wonder why she kept saying she was super impressed with me. If i was more coherent I would have been in there like swimwear but i was an oblivious lad.
Then out of nowhere some fucking backpacking wearing traveller looking dude interrupted us to show us some magic tricks in exchange for some money or something. No idea how the fuck he got in looking like some hippy douche bag (maybe he didn't have a backpack on... i'm not sure. but he was dressed like shit). His magic tricks were real good though and i was enthralled. I turned back to the girl about 5 minutes later (of completely ignoring her) to see her leave. I was hit with a mix of confusion and not-giving-a-fuck. But with drunk hindsight that was the blowing of a sure thing. I've done that once before actually. Some girl went to the bathroom so i started entertaining her ug friend out of kindness and i didn't realise 15 minutes later that the girl must've returned a whole 10 minutes ago and proceeded to stare at me, steaming over the fact that i was obliviously ignoring her. This was AFTER she had earlier grabbed my head and yanked it in for the pull. (which had taken me by suprise) Anywya this is from a different city entirely, so not relevant to my new life here.


3. Went back into the club after jap girl walked away and met my friend on the dance floor and before you know it i am pulling some drunk blondie in a tight red dress. No idea what she looked like properly, but luckily it turned out she was damn fine and my friend was giving me big kudos which further inflated my ego.
She lead me outside because i think her friends were moving to another place and she wanted to go but also definitely wanted me there aswell. She literally walked me out like someone pulling along a dog while she had this grin on her face of bagging a good one. (big ego boost haha). This is the second time a girl has marched me out of a club by the hand and, i can tell you now, there were alot of looks of respect and hate from bouncers and patrons alike. Awesome!!

When we are outside we are caught in the melee of crowds and parties and we start making out in extremely gratuitous manner. She's like 19 and fine as fuck. I'm unashamedly groping her ass. At some point my drunken-protection senses kick in and i realise I'm being lead away from the friend who i'm supposed to be rooming with tonight. I start going in hard with this girl, verbally, and going for the ONS. She says she's with her mates and her dad is picking them all up in 30 minutes. (this seems to be true based on what her drunken rabble mates were also saying and they were visiting from somewhere else). She insists on giving me her number and keeps double checking that i took it down right. I was so unbelievably drunk that I couldn't even type her name and the next day all I had on my phone was a new contact named '.h9' with the number blank. HAHA.

Oddly enough at one point I wander ahead of her within her big group and a cute cuban looking friend of hers links arms with me and latches me by her side. I think i could've seriously got this girl but I was confused since she surely had seen me making out with her friend and also her friend was close behind. I resisted temptation and hastily moved back to grabbing the blondie because I read something Roosh wrote about switching too prematurely can you looking the fool. (that is what reading about game is good for, you can defer to it when you know your drunken mind will make the wrong decision)
Anyhoo, i break off from their group as they approach the dad-pickup-point. I see her a couple hours later still milling on the street but I'm pretty sure her story was still legit or maybe it was a different person. Another possibility is that just because a girl will openly pull me, it does not mean she will put out on the first night and so will come up with an excuse. She was definitely staying with about 10 mates that night but I still believe that girls do have some decency haha and no matter how into you they are, if they are not that type of girl then you won't get them back first night and that's just fine by me.
Either way, as far as my mates were concerned, i pulled a stunning blondie. Success

4.
It was about 4am now but the streets were still alive. I approached this group of 2 street music player dudes with 2 girls speaking to them. I can tell they didn't know each other prior. I start talking to one of the dudes bullshitting about completely fabricated stuff and he's sober so he's just playing along and probably knows i'm talking crap at that point. Pleasant chap. I then turn to the two girls. One is hot. I mean real hot
8/10. Would gf her (if i was looking for a gf). She likes my energy and can tell i'm fun. I got my arm round her shoulder and she has no problem with it but she's not that drunk and is a good girl, i can tell. She tells me she knows i've been a bad boy that night. And i ask how. She replies that i have lipstick all over my face and a big kiss print on my cheek. I was very drunk at this point and barely registered this.
The next day i saw a pic on facebook and she was absolutely right hahaha. This is also how i know she was real hot, because she was in the picture.
It wasn't going anywhere but she was friendly and had me pegged as a badboy right from the beginning.
Me and my friend wandered into a packed casino at about 4.30am and he somehow won 4 times in a row and made about 100 quid profit even though he could barely stand up at the roulette table. We walked right out, got some food with the winnings and took a cab ride with a speed freak all the way back to west london (he's moved closer now and, besides, i have my own place nearish central london; NW1)

That was one night. I'll post the next two nights after my typing muscles stop aching.

[Alphacino]

I'm excited to begin my life of game. I'm quick-thinking and can weave conversations out of nothing, keeping them going for a long time. Drunk game has its place but I like the idea of being a cold and calculated pussy slayer using a blend of verbal and physical approaches to leave them defenceless....hehe.

[Lucky]

Damn. Props for approaching but this shit was painful to read. This is what I used to say before I discovered game...nearly word for word in these situations. Buy Day Bang sir.

(09-01-2012 07:02 PM)starmaze Wrote:  

I had a break in approaching girls long enough to realize the importance of consistency. Today I have started again and my approach anxiety hit me back tremendously. Anyway I managed to make a 3 daygame approaches.
1.A girl in women cloths section.
Me: hi
She: wtf look
Me: nice style
Her: do I know you?
Me: no, that’s why I came over and said hi
She: starts walking away. I stand still looking and her.
Me: Whats your name?
Her: I got bf
Me: ok, have a nice shopping looks like you found something special for you

2.A girl in the street. I saw her before. Once she stopped on red lights I approached her.
Me: I saw you before. You walk a lot. And you are fast walker.
Her: yes

Lights turns green

Me: where are you heading now?
Her: straight ahead ( walks away)

3.A hot chick in colorful dress. She was on tram station talking on phone all the time. I followed her to tram and approached her when she got off.
Me: sorry, I am looking for x street
Her: you must go this direction then
Me: oh it seems I got lost a bit, this tram used to go other way
Her: yeah, now it goes different direction
Me: oh, are you from Poznan?
Her: yeah, I have lived here for some time
Me; a first year student ?
Her: I am actually finishing my studies
Me: you look young
Her: I know, they want to see my ID when I buy alcohol
Me: no surprise I would ask you to show me your ID too

I talked to her some more but I was so nervous my voice cracked and couldn’t make much connection with her

Then she said, ok I am going this way.
Me: ok, how about grabbing a coffee some times?
Her: no
Me: ok bye

I felt devastated after this one. Not because rejection itself but because my crippling nervousness. I thought I won over my approach anxiety. I didn’t and it backfired me. I think it’s because even if I had a period when I approached a lot and felt confident probably I still haven’t made approaching a part of who I am.

[Giovonny]

(09-01-2012 06:30 PM)starmaze Wrote:  

even if you are advanced player you still have to go through many approaches until you find a girl you click with. Thanks man!

Starmaze,

Welcome to the forum. What you said is so true, it does sometimes take a alot of approaches to find a girl you connect with, but other times you can connect with a girl after only a few approaches. Sometimes I even can even connect with the first girl I approach. There really is no pattern to it. It's just a numbers came and the bottom line is this....

THE MORE GIRLS YOU APPROACH, THE MORE EXPERIENCE YOU WILL GET AND THE MORE COMFORTABLE YOU WILL BECOME. THE MORE GIRLS YOU APPROACH, THE MORE OPPORTUNITIES YOU WILL HAVE TO GET LAID!

I bet I get rejected more then anyone on this forum. Rejection is what built my game. Rejection is what gets me pussy! Well, you know what I mean!

Lets look at your approaches:

(09-01-2012 07:02 PM)starmaze Wrote:  

I had a break in approaching girls long enough to realize the importance of consistency. Today I have started again and my approach anxiety hit me back tremendously. Anyway I managed to make a 3 daygame approaches.
1.A girl in women cloths section.
Me: hi
She: wtf look
Me: nice style
Her: do I know you?
Me: no, that’s why I came over and said hi
She: starts walking away. I stand still looking and her.
Me: Whats your name?
Her: I got bf
Me: ok, have a nice shopping looks like you found something special for you

2.A girl in the street. I saw her before. Once she stopped on red lights I approached her.
Me: I saw you before. You walk a lot. And you are fast walker.
Her: yes

Lights turns green

Me: where are you heading now?
Her: straight ahead ( walks away)

3.A hot chick in colorful dress. She was on tram station talking on phone all the time. I followed her to tram and approached her when she got off.
Me: sorry, I am looking for x street
Her: you must go this direction then
Me: oh it seems I got lost a bit, this tram used to go other way
Her: yeah, now it goes different direction
Me: oh, are you from Poznan?
Her: yeah, I have lived here for some time
Me; a first year student ?
Her: I am actually finishing my studies
Me: you look young
Her: I know, they want to see my ID when I buy alcohol
Me: no surprise I would ask you to show me your ID too

I talked to her some more but I was so nervous my voice cracked and couldn’t make much connection with her

Then she said, ok I am going this way.
Me: ok, how about grabbing a coffee some times?
Her: no
Me: ok bye

I felt devastated after this one. Not because rejection itself but because my crippling nervousness. I thought I won over my approach anxiety. I didn’t and it backfired me. I think it’s because even if I had a period when I approached a lot and felt confident probably I still haven’t made approaching a part of who I am.

Hahaha! I am not laughing at you! I am laughing because I used to be just like you. My first 100 approaches looked just like this. Don't worry, you will get better, your approach anxiety will go away. Most guys don't have the balls to even do what you have done here. You are on your way, You just need about 997 more approaches. Yes, 997! That will make 1000, after about 1000 day approaches, you will really be comfortable and have a good ability to create a conversation with a woman you don't know. If you approach 3 girls a day, you will be an expert in less then one year. Approach as much as you can!

Also, try using some of these simple conversation starters..

"hi how are you today"
"hello"
"hey i like your dress, thats different"
"hey whats up"
"hello, you look nice today"
"hey, cool shoes"

Don't tell a girl - "I saw you walking and I came over to say hi".

Just go over and say "hi". She doesn't have to know that you were stalking her! ha

Continue practicing with your indirect openers and elderly openers. In one year you will be a beast! Don't give up, keep grinding.

And, SMILE ALOT when you are talking to these girls! I get the feeling you are a bit to serious in these approaches. Make these approaches seem spontaneous, like you just happened to be in the same place at the same time and you are a confident man and she is a pretty woman so the only natural thing to do is, of course, say "hello".

[reino341]

"SMILE ALOT"

Well, that's questionable and highly contextual. Smirk here and there is good, but I don't think you should be smiling much. If you smile when there's no reason to you only seem like a nervous, insecure dweeb.

[Kish]

(09-02-2012 11:08 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Also, try using some of these simple conversation starters..

"hi how are you today"
"hello"
"hey i like your dress, thats different"
"hey whats up"
"hello, you look nice today"
"hey, cool shoes"

Don't tell a girl - "I saw you walking and I came over to say hi".

Just go over and say "hi". She doesn't have to know that you were stalking her! ha

Continue practicing with your indirect openers and elderly openers. In one year you will be a beast! Don't give up, keep grinding.

And, SMILE ALOT when you are talking to these girls! Make these approaches seem spontaneous, like you just happened to be in the same place at the same time and you are a confident man and she is a pretty woman so the only natural thing to do is, of course, say "hello".

Those are good openers. Simple and easy.

[Kickb]

Went to a house party last night. Walked in the door and saw a girl sitting on the back of a couch; she was smiling I walked over to her and said

What's up?
Her: I'm soooo drunk!
Me: you are?
Her:yeah its my first college party here!
Me:
And she slowly falls bsckwards onto the couch. I grabbed her hands and pulled her up, sat down next to her with my arm around her ass and she placed her hand over my dick.

Her: I'm so hot!
Me: yeah me too let's go outside.

Took her outside and we sit down. Her friend came over to us and says "hey were leaving but you can stay with this guy if you want."

What a good friend!

My drunk girl wanted to go home.

Me: where do you live?

I lucked out again she lives right across the street!

Me: I'll walk you home make sure you get their safely.

She's stumbling around everywhere so I gave her a reverse piggyback ride and fingered her while I crossed the street.

The first thing she does in her apartment is throw up.

Me: we should probably take a shower.
Her:I just want to go to bed!

Me: ok here's some gum.

Once on her bed I'm met with heavy resistance. After more than an hour of it I have had enough. She said stop a lot.

Me: I've got to go.
Her:No don't leave me!
Me:No I need to leave my friends are waiting on me.

She basically jumped me and I got the notch.

[starmaze]

(09-02-2012 11:08 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(09-01-2012 06:30 PM)starmaze Wrote:  

even if you are advanced player you still have to go through many approaches until you find a girl you click with. Thanks man!

Starmaze,

Welcome to the forum. What you said is so true, it does sometimes take a alot of approaches to find a girl you connect with, but other times you can connect with a girl after only a few approaches. Sometimes I even can even connect with the first girl I approach. There really is no pattern to it. It's just a numbers came and the bottom line is this....

THE MORE GIRLS YOU APPROACH, THE MORE EXPERIENCE YOU WILL GET AND THE MORE COMFORTABLE YOU WILL BECOME. THE MORE GIRLS YOU APPROACH, THE MORE OPPORTUNITIES YOU WILL HAVE TO GET LAID!

I bet I get rejected more then anyone on this forum. Rejection is what built my game. Rejection is what gets me pussy! Well, you know what I mean!

Lets look at your approaches:

(09-01-2012 07:02 PM)starmaze Wrote:  

I had a break in approaching girls long enough to realize the importance of consistency. Today I have started again and my approach anxiety hit me back tremendously. Anyway I managed to make a 3 daygame approaches.
1.A girl in women cloths section.
Me: hi
She: wtf look
Me: nice style
Her: do I know you?
Me: no, that’s why I came over and said hi
She: starts walking away. I stand still looking and her.
Me: Whats your name?
Her: I got bf
Me: ok, have a nice shopping looks like you found something special for you

2.A girl in the street. I saw her before. Once she stopped on red lights I approached her.
Me: I saw you before. You walk a lot. And you are fast walker.
Her: yes

Lights turns green

Me: where are you heading now?
Her: straight ahead ( walks away)

3.A hot chick in colorful dress. She was on tram station talking on phone all the time. I followed her to tram and approached her when she got off.
Me: sorry, I am looking for x street
Her: you must go this direction then
Me: oh it seems I got lost a bit, this tram used to go other way
Her: yeah, now it goes different direction
Me: oh, are you from Poznan?
Her: yeah, I have lived here for some time
Me; a first year student ?
Her: I am actually finishing my studies
Me: you look young
Her: I know, they want to see my ID when I buy alcohol
Me: no surprise I would ask you to show me your ID too

I talked to her some more but I was so nervous my voice cracked and couldn’t make much connection with her

Then she said, ok I am going this way.
Me: ok, how about grabbing a coffee some times?
Her: no
Me: ok bye

I felt devastated after this one. Not because rejection itself but because my crippling nervousness. I thought I won over my approach anxiety. I didn’t and it backfired me. I think it’s because even if I had a period when I approached a lot and felt confident probably I still haven’t made approaching a part of who I am.

Hahaha! I am not laughing at you! I am laughing because I used to be just like you. My first 100 approaches looked just like this. Don't worry, you will get better, your approach anxiety will go away. Most guys don't have the balls to even do what you have done here. You are on your way, You just need about 997 more approaches. Yes, 997! That will make 1000, after about 1000 day approaches, you will really be comfortable and have a good ability to create a conversation with a woman you don't know. If you approach 3 girls a day, you will be an expert in less then one year. Approach as much as you can!

Also, try using some of these simple conversation starters..

"hi how are you today"
"hello"
"hey i like your dress, thats different"
"hey whats up"
"hello, you look nice today"
"hey, cool shoes"

Don't tell a girl - "I saw you walking and I came over to say hi".

Just go over and say "hi". She doesn't have to know that you were stalking her! ha

Continue practicing with your indirect openers and elderly openers. In one year you will be a beast! Don't give up, keep grinding.

And, SMILE ALOT when you are talking to these girls! I get the feeling you are a bit to serious in these approaches. Make these approaches seem spontaneous, like you just happened to be in the same place at the same time and you are a confident man and she is a pretty woman so the only natural thing to do is, of course, say "hello".

I really appreciate your feedback guys.

Quote:

Welcome to the forum. What you said is so true, it does sometimes take a alot of approaches to find a girl you connect with, but other times you can connect with a girl after only a few approaches. Sometimes I even can even connect with the first girl I approach. There really is no pattern to it. It's just a numbers came and the bottom line is this....

THE MORE GIRLS YOU APPROACH, THE MORE EXPERIENCE YOU WILL GET AND THE MORE COMFORTABLE YOU WILL BECOME. THE MORE GIRLS YOU APPROACH, THE MORE OPPORTUNITIES YOU WILL HAVE TO GET LAID!

I bet I get rejected more then anyone on this forum. Rejection is what built my game. Rejection is what gets me pussy! Well, you know what I mean!

What you have said here is a key mentality. There is no other cure for approach anxiety than regularly approaching women. The more comfortable you will be the more you can connect with girls , and in result get more girls.

I know exactly what you mean when you say : “Rejection is what built my game. Rejection is what gets me pussy” . The more you approach the more rejections you will get. But as they say, every rejection gets you closer to success. Sometime you make 20 approach and get nowhere and you may feel bad for a while but having that mindset will keep you going. Someday I can make 6 approaches and got rejected every time in row and the next day I make 1 approach and bam! Girl digs me and I know I am in.

[starmaze]

Did 3 more today.


1. Blow off. I stopped her from the front.
Me: excuse me, I saw you and I wanted to say I like your sense of style.
Her: oh, come on! ………and walked away.

I was like wtf????

2.Number close. Chick in store.
Me: hey, I saw you and I wanted to come over and say hi because you look very sexy
Her: oh thanks you

I became nervous and got lost in conversation for a while.

Her phone rings and she excused me for while. From what she said I heard she is from Kalisz (different city) After she hang I was more collected and managed to calm my nerves.

Me: let me guess, you are not from Poznan
Her: hah, I suppose you even know what city I am from
Me: wait a moment, I need to summon my psychic powers.. Kalisz right?
Her; haha you are good at it

I teased her a bit about the shirt she is buying and joked about other stuff. Then decided to go for a number.

Me: I done with my shopping today.. enough for today how about exchanging numbers and grab some coffee sometimes?
Her: sure, why not

We exchanged numbers and I wished her nice shopping.

3.A boner. I was on my way back to car and saw cute chick waling in my direction. I didn’t hesitate.

Me; hey, where is the entrance here? I said it with playful smile.
Her: in front of you ( laughing)
Me: I mean main entrance
Her: I think this it main entrance
Me: just kidding, I like you style, I wanted to say hi
Her: oh, thanks ( laughing and slowly walking away)
Me: hey, stop! I saw you twice today, I cannot let you go like this , what’s your name?

She walked closer and we exchanged names

Me: you look familiar, I have an impression I saw you in x club
Her: I don’t think so, I don’t go to clubs
Me: you kidding me, you are way too young to sit in whole time in rocking chair and watching TV
Her: haha, I live outside of Poland now, in Germany actually
Me: too bad, nice girls shouldn’t be allowed to emigrate
Her; haha, I work there but I visit Poland from time to time
Me; ok, next time when you will be here we should grab some drink
Her: oh, sorry , I cannot
Me: come on, why not?
Her: I am taken
Me: well, you know what just take number and next time you are here text me if you are bored
Her: oh if you think so
Me: make me a surprise and write something nice
Her: ok
Me: ok take care
Her: bye bye

Felt much better and more confident with last one . On the contrary to yesterday the third approach I made today was so tight and confident, I felt comfortable and sexual and even got a boner while talking to this chick. I also managed to stopped her from walking away in the initial part and keep conversation going.

[pitt]

(09-02-2012 11:08 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(09-01-2012 06:30 PM)starmaze Wrote:  

even if you are advanced player you still have to go through many approaches until you find a girl you click with. Thanks man!

Starmaze,

Welcome to the forum. What you said is so true, it does sometimes take a alot of approaches to find a girl you connect with, but other times you can connect with a girl after only a few approaches. Sometimes I even can even connect with the first girl I approach. There really is no pattern to it. It's just a numbers came and the bottom line is this....

THE MORE GIRLS YOU APPROACH, THE MORE EXPERIENCE YOU WILL GET AND THE MORE COMFORTABLE YOU WILL BECOME. THE MORE GIRLS YOU APPROACH, THE MORE OPPORTUNITIES YOU WILL HAVE TO GET LAID!

I bet I get rejected more then anyone on this forum. Rejection is what built my game. Rejection is what gets me pussy! Well, you know what I mean!

Lets look at your approaches:

(09-01-2012 07:02 PM)starmaze Wrote:  

I had a break in approaching girls long enough to realize the importance of consistency. Today I have started again and my approach anxiety hit me back tremendously. Anyway I managed to make a 3 daygame approaches.
1.A girl in women cloths section.
Me: hi
She: wtf look
Me: nice style
Her: do I know you?
Me: no, that’s why I came over and said hi
She: starts walking away. I stand still looking and her.
Me: Whats your name?
Her: I got bf
Me: ok, have a nice shopping looks like you found something special for you

2.A girl in the street. I saw her before. Once she stopped on red lights I approached her.
Me: I saw you before. You walk a lot. And you are fast walker.
Her: yes

Lights turns green

Me: where are you heading now?
Her: straight ahead ( walks away)

3.A hot chick in colorful dress. She was on tram station talking on phone all the time. I followed her to tram and approached her when she got off.
Me: sorry, I am looking for x street
Her: you must go this direction then
Me: oh it seems I got lost a bit, this tram used to go other way
Her: yeah, now it goes different direction
Me: oh, are you from Poznan?
Her: yeah, I have lived here for some time
Me; a first year student ?
Her: I am actually finishing my studies
Me: you look young
Her: I know, they want to see my ID when I buy alcohol
Me: no surprise I would ask you to show me your ID too

I talked to her some more but I was so nervous my voice cracked and couldn’t make much connection with her

Then she said, ok I am going this way.
Me: ok, how about grabbing a coffee some times?
Her: no
Me: ok bye

I felt devastated after this one. Not because rejection itself but because my crippling nervousness. I thought I won over my approach anxiety. I didn’t and it backfired me. I think it’s because even if I had a period when I approached a lot and felt confident probably I still haven’t made approaching a part of who I am.

Hahaha! I am not laughing at you! I am laughing because I used to be just like you. My first 100 approaches looked just like this. Don't worry, you will get better, your approach anxiety will go away. Most guys don't have the balls to even do what you have done here. You are on your way, You just need about 997 more approaches. Yes, 997! That will make 1000, after about 1000 day approaches, you will really be comfortable and have a good ability to create a conversation with a woman you don't know. If you approach 3 girls a day, you will be an expert in less then one year. Approach as much as you can!

Also, try using some of these simple conversation starters..

"hi how are you today"
"hello"
"hey i like your dress, thats different"
"hey whats up"
"hello, you look nice today"
"hey, cool shoes"
[b]
Don't tell a girl - "I saw you walking and I came over to say hi".

Just go over and say "hi". She doesn't have to know that you were stalking her! ha
[/b]
Continue practicing with your indirect openers and elderly openers. In one year you will be a beast! Don't give up, keep grinding.

And, SMILE ALOT when you are talking to these girls! I get the feeling you are a bit to serious in these approaches. Make these approaches seem spontaneous, like you just happened to be in the same place at the same time and you are a confident man and she is a pretty woman so the only natural thing to do is, of course, say "hello".

Good feedback but just one thing Giovonny..i think the opening line is not that much important, i had a friend asking me the other day what should he say when he opens up a girl, i told him just say anything..anything really..if you say it with confidence, they will reply to you in a good manner. Funny enough i approached this girl the other day with exactly the same line that this guy just used, i saw her in the mall and approached with " hey i saw you walking and i thought i should come close and say hello"..she was just like "hello" conversation proceeded, took her number and last night i fucked her like a true slut (actually when i was moving to her, i thought a lot about your strategy, used jokes similar to yours..you had an influence in that bang haha)

So yeah i dont think the opening line counts much..actually i believe is more the way you say things, if she sees you are a real cool guy, she will hardly ever tell you to fuck off.


p.s. i hope you are cool about me commenting on your posts sometimes, i hold nothing against you and i only comment on your posts because you always write great posts and i enjoy discussing with you

[Veloce]

(09-01-2012 07:02 PM)starmaze Wrote:  

I had a break in approaching girls long enough to realize the importance of consistency. Today I have started again and my approach anxiety hit me back tremendously. Anyway I managed to make a 3 daygame approaches.
1.A girl in women cloths section.
Me: hi
She: wtf look
Me: nice style
Her: do I know you?
Me: no, that’s why I came over and said hi
She: starts walking away. I stand still looking and her.
Me: Whats your name?
Her: I got bf
Me: ok, have a nice shopping looks like you found something special for you

2.A girl in the street. I saw her before. Once she stopped on red lights I approached her.
Me: I saw you before. You walk a lot. And you are fast walker.
Her: yes

Lights turns green

Me: where are you heading now?
Her: straight ahead ( walks away)

3.A hot chick in colorful dress. She was on tram station talking on phone all the time. I followed her to tram and approached her when she got off.
Me: sorry, I am looking for x street
Her: you must go this direction then
Me: oh it seems I got lost a bit, this tram used to go other way
Her: yeah, now it goes different direction
Me: oh, are you from Poznan?
Her: yeah, I have lived here for some time
Me; a first year student ?
Her: I am actually finishing my studies
Me: you look young
Her: I know, they want to see my ID when I buy alcohol
Me: no surprise I would ask you to show me your ID too

I talked to her some more but I was so nervous my voice cracked and couldn’t make much connection with her

Then she said, ok I am going this way.
Me: ok, how about grabbing a coffee some times?
Her: no
Me: ok bye

I felt devastated after this one. Not because rejection itself but because my crippling nervousness. I thought I won over my approach anxiety. I didn’t and it backfired me. I think it’s because even if I had a period when I approached a lot and felt confident probably I still haven’t made approaching a part of who I am.

Just a quick tip for ya buddy, because like the others, I can totally relate to your script here.

Sometimes I tell a girl, "Well, I thought you were cute so I came over to say hi." In my experience, this isn't bad IF you say it right.

It's crucially important HOW you say it, and in what context. I never say that sentence outright. I'm still trying to figure out my perfect daygame model, but I've had luck with the indirect-->direct style script. Here's what I mean by that:

Find a clothing store that's unisex where the men's and women's sections are close to each other. Ask a girl's opinion on a shirt, and go right for suggestive speech, "If you were my girlfriend, would you want to see me in this?" Etc etc etc. You'll know right from her response if she's interested based on her smile and demeanor. You're already screening. Ideally do this with noone around so you can run multiple approaches, otherwise it's a one time shot. At the end of your bullshitting with the girl talking about the shirt, you can drop, "You know, honestly I was gonna buy this shirt regardless of what you think. I just thought you were cute so I came over to talk to you." At this point she'll either get creeped out or laugh. If she laughs, laugh with her, smile, ask her name, and tell her you'd like to get coffee sometime and get the number. Your vibe has to be totally cool, fun, relaxed, and confident.

At a grocery store or farmer's market, start asking girls for advice on what to cook. Once you banter back and forth about what to cook, tell her, "You know, I actually already know what I'm going to cook, I just thought you were cute and came over to talk to you." Same deal, she'll probably laugh, so laugh with her and repeat the steps above.

[MrXY]

(09-02-2012 01:06 PM)kickboxer Wrote:  

Once on her bed I'm met with heavy resistance. After more than an hour of it I have had enough. She said stop a lot.

Me: I've got to go.
Her:No don't leave me!
Me:No I need to leave my friends are waiting on me.

She basically jumped me and I got the notch.

Good job. The freeze out is amazing effective in overcoming LMR.

I sense guys don't use it enough because they think it is a risky move-what if the girl calls their bluff and breaks off the sexual interaction? I think if she does that you very likely weren't going to get the bang anyway, so you might as well take the risk and force her hand.

Plus the freeze out really is an outgrowth of strong inner game- it shows and abundance mentality and outcome independence. Try it- it often works when trying to physicially escalate against her resistance won't.

[Giovonny]

(09-02-2012 01:06 PM)kickboxer Wrote:  

"What's up?"

I got the notch.

Nice. "Whats up" has gotten me more pussy then any other line. "How are you today" is second!

(09-02-2012 01:06 PM)kickboxer Wrote:  

Me: I've got to go.
Her:No don't leave me!
Me:No I need to leave my friends are waiting on me.

She basically jumped me and I got the notch.

I like this move for LMR. Just get up and start leaving. When they realize that you are not playing around and their dick for the night is about to go, they often quit the games. If she lets you leave, she doesn't want to fuck you.

MrXY describes this dynamic beautifully above.

(09-02-2012 01:17 PM)starmaze Wrote:  

Did 3 more today.


1. Blow off. I stopped her from the front.
Me: excuse me, I saw you and I wanted to say I like your sense of style.
Her: oh, come on! ………and walked away.

haha! She knew you were trying to pick her up. She wasn't interested in chatting. This happens sometimes. Next!

Also, next time, don't say - "I saw you and I wanted to say I like your style"

Just say - "Hello, cool shoes" or "hey, cool purse" or "hi, you have a different style"

Or maybe, "hey i noticed your bag, you have a unique style"

Don't tell her you were watching her. Just tell her what you noticed about her. Make it seem spontaneous. Telling her you "saw her" makes it seem like you were hunting her.

(09-02-2012 01:17 PM)starmaze Wrote:  

2.Number close. Chick in store.
Me: hey, I saw you and I wanted to come over and say hi because you look very sexy
Her: oh thanks you

Good direct approach. I like how you used thew word "sexy". You made your intentions clear and presented yourself with confidence. Now the choice is hers', does she want to talk to this confident man or not. Usually, women will want to talk to a canfident man.

Good job with the light teasing and pretending to be psychic bit.

I'm not surprised she gave you her number. This was your most powerful approach so far!

(09-02-2012 01:17 PM)starmaze Wrote:  

3.A boner. I was on my way back to car and saw cute chick waling in my direction. I didn’t hesitate.


Me: hey, stop! I saw you twice today, I cannot let you go like this , what’s your name?[/i]

Good job approaching without hesitation. Good elderly opener.

"I saw you twice today"" - I would stop saying this. You always tell girls - "i saw you". It's not a good idea right now. I know Krauser does it and I also do it too sometimes but you are not ready for this. When you say it, it comes off as NEEDY. Krauser can do it in a way were it comes of WITHOUT ANY NEEDINESS.

Thats the difference. In time you will be able to do this.

(09-02-2012 01:17 PM)starmaze Wrote:  

I felt comfortable and sexual

You are getting better with each approach. Keep it up!

[gandt]

I like this. I have actually used this a lot without really knowing it. The objective is to try and make it seem natural.

When i ask for directions i transition by saying "you know what, I could have used my phone to figure it out but you were too cute, I had to ask you"

Being either creeped out or into it is completely on the money. I haven't had any in between reactions.

(09-02-2012 01:56 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  

(09-01-2012 07:02 PM)starmaze Wrote:  

I had a break in approaching girls long enough to realize the importance of consistency. Today I have started again and my approach anxiety hit me back tremendously. Anyway I managed to make a 3 daygame approaches.
1.A girl in women cloths section.
Me: hi
She: wtf look
Me: nice style
Her: do I know you?
Me: no, that’s why I came over and said hi
She: starts walking away. I stand still looking and her.
Me: Whats your name?
Her: I got bf
Me: ok, have a nice shopping looks like you found something special for you

2.A girl in the street. I saw her before. Once she stopped on red lights I approached her.
Me: I saw you before. You walk a lot. And you are fast walker.
Her: yes

Lights turns green

Me: where are you heading now?
Her: straight ahead ( walks away)

3.A hot chick in colorful dress. She was on tram station talking on phone all the time. I followed her to tram and approached her when she got off.
Me: sorry, I am looking for x street
Her: you must go this direction then
Me: oh it seems I got lost a bit, this tram used to go other way
Her: yeah, now it goes different direction
Me: oh, are you from Poznan?
Her: yeah, I have lived here for some time
Me; a first year student ?
Her: I am actually finishing my studies
Me: you look young
Her: I know, they want to see my ID when I buy alcohol
Me: no surprise I would ask you to show me your ID too

I talked to her some more but I was so nervous my voice cracked and couldn’t make much connection with her

Then she said, ok I am going this way.
Me: ok, how about grabbing a coffee some times?
Her: no
Me: ok bye

I felt devastated after this one. Not because rejection itself but because my crippling nervousness. I thought I won over my approach anxiety. I didn’t and it backfired me. I think it’s because even if I had a period when I approached a lot and felt confident probably I still haven’t made approaching a part of who I am.

Just a quick tip for ya buddy, because like the others, I can totally relate to your script here.

Sometimes I tell a girl, "Well, I thought you were cute so I came over to say hi." In my experience, this isn't bad IF you say it right.

It's crucially important HOW you say it, and in what context. I never say that sentence outright. I'm still trying to figure out my perfect daygame model, but I've had luck with the indirect-->direct style script. Here's what I mean by that:

Find a clothing store that's unisex where the men's and women's sections are close to each other. Ask a girl's opinion on a shirt, and go right for suggestive speech, "If you were my girlfriend, would you want to see me in this?" Etc etc etc. You'll know right from her response if she's interested based on her smile and demeanor. You're already screening. Ideally do this with noone around so you can run multiple approaches, otherwise it's a one time shot. At the end of your bullshitting with the girl talking about the shirt, you can drop, "You know, honestly I was gonna buy this shirt regardless of what you think. I just thought you were cute so I came over to talk to you." At this point she'll either get creeped out or laugh. If she laughs, laugh with her, smile, ask her name, and tell her you'd like to get coffee sometime and get the number. Your vibe has to be totally cool, fun, relaxed, and confident.

At a grocery store or farmer's market, start asking girls for advice on what to cook. Once you banter back and forth about what to cook, tell her, "You know, I actually already know what I'm going to cook, I just thought you were cute and came over to talk to you." Same deal, she'll probably laugh, so laugh with her and repeat the steps above.

[Giovonny]

(09-02-2012 01:30 PM)pitt Wrote:  

Good feedback but just one thing Giovonny..i think the opening line is not that much important

I agree. Holding your frame with unapologetic self-belief is the most important thing. But, for guys just getting started, they do need some basic phrases to help open the girl. Once that self-belief becomes rock solid, the opener is just, well, an opener.

[quote='pitt' pid='261290' dateline='1346610657']
i hope you are cool about me commenting on your posts

Of course I'm cool with it!

Please point out anything that stands out to you, good or bad.

And, good work with the mall bang!! Glad I could help.

[starmaze]

Thanks for your advice. its great to get so positive feedback.

Right now i have sort of kamikaze mindset. I am on my mission. I go out to approach girls and build my confidence. I feel like a kamikaze on suicidal mission. Ideally when I see hot girl I should feel I can get her and even visualize having sex with her but at my current stage when fear is so strong it’s impossible. I have one goal: to overcome fear or to feel fear and do it anyway.
This is my current goal but the ultimate goal is to approach with the intention and expectation to get with her sexually or romantically. I experienced this before and I know that it makes big difference in the whole interaction.

I liked when Giovonny once said that he doesn’t go out to collect numbers , he is going out to create connections. But it takes practice.

Anyway the suicidal mission analogy makes some positive sense as well. Every time I get rejected I let my ego die. And ego is what prevents you from taking action. There is no fear without ego. Once you can detach yourself from your ego you get freedom.

[Lucky]

Today I was out with my wing.

I approached a girl on the street next to a university and about 10 minutes into the interaction (standard elderly chat, Day Bang stuff) I go for the number.

[R Smoov]

Cafeteria Approached
Got a number from a new sorority girl who approached me today. I dunno if I should proceed further cause she seems flaky. Not to mention my football friends kept cheering in the background when I was talking to her. It was funny that they did that, and overall I think it helped my mood.

Her: I haven't seen you in forever.
Me: Yeah. *Reads her sorority chapter on her shirt* Oh they got you too?
Her: Yeah I'm a sorority girl.
Me: Who isn't these days. I got bad news though.
Her: Hmm?
Me: My phone was broken
*does the number transfer*
Her: Just text me, I'll be getting my other phone back from Canada soon.
Me: What happened, you got on punishment?
Her: Hey, fuck you! *smile*
Me: Mhmmm, *girl's name* still get on timeout.
*Football friends from the background can be heard cheering because I'm talking to her*
Me: Alright, I'll text you later.
Her: Ok!
---
Now I know she likes to drink/smoke and shit. But I don't think I should text her.